I just recently put together a 2 disc compilation of what I felt represented the best tool material. I'm trying to send it to my friends who haven't listened to the band to give them an opportunity to "see the light". Basically what I did was center in on key songs that showcased Maynard's lyrical story progression from abuse to torment to anger to understanding and acceptance and then finally to redemption. Here is the order of the songs...
1. Undertow
2. Prison Sex
3. jimmy
4. Reflection
5. Intolerance
6. 4 Degrees
7. Cold and Ugly
8. You Lied
9. Crawl Away
10. H.
11. Pushit
12. Jerk-Off
13. Hooker with a Penis
14. Ticks and Leeches
15. Forty-Six & 2
16. Parabol
17. Parabola
18. Third Eye
19. Lateralus
So, where does Jimmy come in to this story?
Here are my thoughts...
First off and most important.
A. Jimmy is obviously Maynard.
B. The number eleven is his age.
C. Maynard's mother is "she" in stanza 2.
What was it like to see
The face of your own stability
Suddenly look away
Leaving you with the dead and hopeless?
Okay. I think stanza 1 is petty clear. Someone has left. I am going to say that this first stanza is about Jimmy's dad being left by Jimmy and his mom.
Eleven and she was gone.
Eleven is when we waved good-bye.
Eleven is standing still,
Waiting for me to free him
By coming home.
Well, I'm saying that eleven is the age that Jimmy was when she left home. In the line "eleven is standing still", Jimmy can' t move, can't age. He is stuck. He'll be eleven forever. The moment is standing still.
It seems to me that the line "waiting for me to free him by coming home" talks about Jimmy's father being all alone and suffering because his family has dissapeard.
Moving me with a sound.
Opening me within a gesture.
Drawing me down and in,
Showing me where it all began,
Eleven.
I am thinking that Maynard's abuse began soon after his mother took him away from his father.
It took so long to realize that
You hold the light that's been leading me back home.
Now Maynard realizes that his father is the light and all he wants is to get home.
Under a dead ohio sky,
Eleven has been and will be waiting,
Defending his light,
And wondering...
Where the hell have I been?
Sleeping, lost, and numb.
So glad that I have found you.
I am wide awake and heading home.
This stanza is all about action and conflict. "Under a dead ohio sky". Maynard lived in ohio as a boy. Since his dad has lived in Michigan all his life, and Maynard only keeps in contact w/ his father. I am assuming this is where his mother moved him. At this point eleven stands for the union between father and son. Maynard gets pissed and decides to make the journey to head back home to his dad.
Hold your light,
Eleven.
Lead me through each gentle step by step
by inch by loaded memory.
Let this union between father and son give Maynard the abilty to escape Ohio, both mentally, emotionally and physically. "Lead me through each gentle step by step, by inch by loaded memory". "Loaded memory" is a false memory. Maybe he wants to forget what he has just gone through, or maybe his mother has been filling his head with lies about his father that aren't true and he needs the courage of their union to ignore them.
I'll move to heal
As soon as pain allows so we can
Reunite and both move on together.
Maynard is so torn apart inside that he can't run until the pain ends. However, he is going to try very soon so father and son can reunite and move on together.
Hold your light,
Eleven. Lead me through each gentle step by step
By inch by loaded memory
'till one and one are one, eleven,
So glow, child, glow.
I'm heading back home.
Once again, as long as the union between father and son stays strong, Jimmy/Maynard will have the courage to leave Ohio and his mother and the abuse to make it back home to his father and become one again...
Finally he makes the decision to go.
I really like how the union of 11 meaning father and son playing a role of cosmic energy in this song. Very powerful in deed.
If you've read this far and would like a copy of the discs I put together, send me an e-mail to [email protected]
Very interesting, My thoughts on the song were very similar as far as year 11 being a tragic time for his family but I think that he is talking about his childhood being what he had lost. I believe he is talking about his inner child holding the light. It could most definatly be either one, or neither.
To bad we will most likely never know the truth!
i dont know if the facts you stated were true, because maynard hasnt revealed much of his past (or i havent heard it). but if they are true, good work. when i first heard the song i thought of it as a song about a journey, kind of like the tool version of the odyssey...i definately thought that it was about a young maynard...
I think you're right that the song has something to do with a tragic or difficult time for Maynard and his family - most notably his mother. But I come to this conclusion based on the first line from the obituary of Maynard's mother, which states: "Judith Marie “Judy” Garrison, 59, of Dover, and a former resident of Ravenna, died Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003, of complications from a brain aneurysm suffered twenty-seven years ago."
27 years ago, Maynard would have been 11, thus I believe that the song has something to do with his mom's aneurysm and its affect on he and his family at the time. Just a thought.
A. Jimmy is obviously not Maynard. jimmy means 11:11
B. The number eleven is not his age. it represents 1111
C. Maynard's mother is not the only "she" in stanza 2. she represents that the message is for both sexes.
What was it like to see
The face of your own stability
Suddenly look away
Leaving you with the dead and hopeless?
Left here on earth by the creator.
Eleven and she was gone.
Eleven is when we waved good-bye.
Not about age, but about seeing 11:11 on the clock, or reciept, or license plates, and so on while something is happening in your life.
Eleven is standing still,
waiting for me to free him by
coming home.
Lucifer, the light-bearer, is waiting for his lightworkers to come home to him again.
Moving me with a sound.
Opening me within a gesture.
Drawing me down and in,
Showing me where it all began,
Eleven.
Nothing about abuse. it's about finding the encoded message of the calling inside yourself, to find the source of creation.
It took so long to realize that
You are the voice that's been
calling me back home.
Not a house home, but home to our creator who calls us with 11:11.
Under a dead ohio sky,
Eleven has been and will be waiting,
Defending his light,
the light bearer, defending his side.
And wondering...
Where the hell have I been?
Sleeping, lost, and numb.
So glad that I have found you.
I am wide awake and heading home.
awakend by seeing the 11:11, and finding for yourself what it means.
Hold your light,
Eleven.
Lead me through each gentle step by step
by inch by loaded memory.
Loaded memory, is the memory of the truth locked inside you, dormit until you hear his call, 11:11 and he'll lead you through the truth if you reply.
I'll move to heal
As soon as pain allows so we can
Reunite and both move on together.
All who hear the call.
Hold your light,
Eleven. Lead me through each gentle step by step
By inch by loaded memory
'till one (one) and one (and one) are one, (and one) (plus) eleven,
obviously, there is an ecco, double effect. He's telling you straight up. 11:11.
I like Zenith's interpretation.
It borders on what I've always thought, as things being a journey.
And to me it seems logical that Jimmy is Maynard... Jimmy being a nickname for James.
Perhaps I've missed something in your post rebecca, but what does 11:11 or 1111 mean...? If it has some kind of significance, enlighten me. I'm having trouble finding a connection at the moment.
"Perhaps I've missed something in your post rebecca, but what does 11:11 or 1111 mean...? If it has some kind of significance, enlighten me. I'm having trouble finding a connection at the moment.[/QUOTE]"
If your looking for a full definition, I suggest you type in 11:11 into a search engine. There are many sites and pages of other peoples opinions. You can read through and decide for yourself.
I can see how people which don't know anything about the symbol may dismiss this idea as just another story about a guy named "jimmy". If you don't understand the signifigance of symbols, you will have trouble understanding alot of Tool songs.
I think you're right that the song has something to do with a tragic or difficult time for Maynard and his family - most notably his mother. But I come to this conclusion based on the first line from the obituary of Maynard's mother, which states: "Judith Marie “Judy” Garrison, 59, of Dover, and a former resident of Ravenna, died Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003, of complications from a brain aneurysm suffered twenty-seven years ago."
27 years ago, Maynard would have been 11, thus I believe that the song has something to do with his mom's aneurysm and its affect on he and his family at the time. Just a thought.
hey thats amazing... Tool always encorporates many other types of hidden message/ coincidences... I agree with zeniths interpretation... yet I believe that 11 is a magic number... like in rebbecas post... 11 holds alot of mysterious poswers
I think you're right that the song has something to do with a tragic or difficult time for Maynard and his family - most notably his mother. But I come to this conclusion based on the first line from the obituary of Maynard's mother, which states: "Judith Marie “Judy” Garrison, 59, of Dover, and a former resident of Ravenna, died Wednesday, Jun. 18, 2003, of complications from a brain aneurysm suffered twenty-seven years ago."
27 years ago, Maynard would have been 11, thus I believe that the song has something to do with his mom's aneurysm and its affect on he and his family at the time. Just a thought.
Maynard James Keenan was born 4-17-1964
39-27=12
at least you tried.
A. Jimmy is obviously not Maynard. jimmy means 11:11
I'm fond of the idea that Jimmy/James Maynard Keenan is indeed Jimmy.
In whole I see it as a reflection of poignant times of his past where his learning and growth was interrupted. At that age something altered his life enough to prevent 'natural' growth, if there is such a thing.
We all seek to reconcile our current selves with quandric instances in our own past. Well...perhaps not all. Some of us do a damned good job of keeping it buried.
Perhaps in the veing of 'third eye', instead of meeting his higher-self, he's reconciling with his former self, his child.... 'till one and one are one'.
Before we can truly evolve we must complete the process of involution. We must ground ourselves and 'know ourselves' before we can push forth and effectively act on the world around us, to transcend. He's 'pulling the pieces from the sand' in this song.
Now as far as the whole 11:11 thing goes, sure you can apply that to the song but I highly doubt that it was the main driving thought when the lyrics were penned.
I'm not saying that the 11:11 association is 'wrong' I'm merely suggesting that it wasn't foremost or the active catalyst.
I am with you Tant. Although the 11:11 theory is interesting, it doesnt pop up as the first thing in my mind, and it certainly isnt "obvious." Now, I do like the chimes in the verses that make it sound like a grandfather clock of sorts, and I have thought there might be something about 11:00, but I never made sense of that trail.
Hold your light,
Eleven.
Lead me through each gentle step by step
by inch by loaded memory.
<<<<Let this union between father and son give Maynard the abilty to escape Ohio, both mentally, emotionally and physically. "Lead me through each gentle step by step, by inch by loaded memory". "Loaded memory" is a false memory.>>>>
I don't think a loaded memory is a false memory, but an emotionally loaded memory. Reuniting with a former self is a process where one must feel the emotions associated with the memory. No matter what, if you don't feel the emotions associated with an experience, that memory remains in your body, loading you down with suffering until the memory is resolved. I assume this song aludes to "breaking the cycles of abuse" in Prison Sex where the abuse.
The scenario replays itself over and over again, leaving him "sleeping, lost, and numb" in an emotional darkness. The part of him that endured that experience remained 11 years old until it is broken out of the cycle when light is shone on it. To fully resolve the experience, the light must touch each step of the way.
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27 years ago, Maynard would have been 11, thus I believe that the song has something to do with his mom's aneurysm and its affect on he and his family at the time. Just a thought.
This is interesting when coupled with the Perfect Circle song Judith "Fuck your god...he left you this way..broken down and paralyzed..." Looks like we have some real insight into Maynard's "falling out" with the christian religion; apparently it was at age 11.
I'm fond of the idea that Jimmy/James Maynard Keenan is indeed Jimmy.
In whole I see it as a reflection of poignant times of his past where his learning and growth was interrupted. At that age something altered his life enough to prevent 'natural' growth, if there is such a thing.
We all seek to reconcile our current selves with quandric instances in our own past. Well...perhaps not all. Some of us do a damned good job of keeping it buried.
Perhaps in the veing of 'third eye', instead of meeting his higher-self, he's reconciling with his former self, his child.... 'till one and one are one'.
Before we can truly evolve we must complete the process of involution. We must ground ourselves and 'know ourselves' before we can push forth and effectively act on the world around us, to transcend. He's 'pulling the pieces from the sand' in this song.
Now as far as the whole 11:11 thing goes, sure you can apply that to the song but I highly doubt that it was the main driving thought when the lyrics were penned.
I'm not saying that the 11:11 association is 'wrong' I'm merely suggesting that it wasn't foremost or the active catalyst.
Really? is it also hard for you to notice that Danny Carey also made a song called Merkaba? Hmmm, what could that mean? Type it into a search engine and you will see sites refering to the Merkaba as a gateway, part of the 1111 phenomena... Why is it hard for people to see that Tool may not be basing their songs on simle human everyday life? I for one can see that they have a deep interest in otherwise.
Hi. I'm new to this page and will probably not post anymore after this.
I actually stumbled upon this page because I was searching for meaning for the song Jimmy. And the meaning which I was 100% certain it had was Rebecca's interpretation. However, nobody here seems to understand the signifance of the number 11. Do what she says and type it into a search engine.
This song has had very concrete meaning for me since the very first time I had heard it. It was so obvious to me, while all of you struggle to understand it (no sarcasm/offense intended)..
Lisence plates, digital clocks, etc. etc. I don't know what it means, but I think it is highly spiritual. And no, I'm not a lunatic and I'm not religious in the slightest. It's the only thing in my life I've ever considered spiritual. And it's only because of I have seen 11:11 daily (*every* day) on digital clocks . I don't want to draw this out too much, but I must emphasize the frequency which I see this everywhere. And if you think I just have "subconscious good timing" forget about it. A friend told me exactly that. As he turned back around in his passenger seat in my car at the gas station, my pump stopped at 11.111 gallons.
So, like anyone else would do if they saw 11:11 everywhere enough to where it freaked them out (for me it was 7 years, at least once a day.. I'm 21 now), they type it into a search engine.
And what do I find out.. Well, a ton of stuff. Among the ton of stuff was significant information about "11" holding light & having huge significance in numerology, which is something I know nothing about at all.
I looked around and gathered a variety of opinions, because some of the pages are pretty wacky. I came away with this: focus your thoughts when you see 11. It'll take you "home" as maynard said.
I see "home" as your vocation, meaning in life, purpose, what is "right" and if you ever lose your way, then follow 11. Strangely enough, and it does sound strange, my has taken a positive turn (most of the time), and I use it to help me make decisions that benefit me.
So, I hope I made sense. I also hope no one thinks I'm a looney. Because I'm figuring it out too, and if you woke up at 11:11 on consecutive days, you would start to notice. Especially if you go out that day, come home late, open the door to your dark room and the only light is coming from a digital clock that says 1:11. I feel like saying "Hi, eleven. Goodnight."
My purpose was to help out Rebecca and support her interpretation. Because I felt that way long before I ever found this discussion online.
The last total solar eclipse was on July 11, 1991.
"Mexico City was bracing itself for a one off natural event, a total solar eclipse, this was to occur on July 11th 1991. The people of Mexico were fascinated and the intention of many of the inhabitants was to view and personally experience this most unique and awsesome spectacle. Anticipating the eclispe, many people had been preparing to record the events with their camcorders and cameras. As the eclipse inevitably proceeded it was discovered that about a dozen people (unknowingly) had caught, on video, some bizarre objects in the background of their film alongside the eclipse. The objects looked like small points of light and had in fact been recorded from different locations, angles and times around the city, which suggested that these were unlikely to be stars or planets as these could be checked by comparing all the films."- secrethour.com
The last total solar eclipse was on July 11, 1991. It was over mexico, where the mayans and aztec once lived, and built pyramids. During the eclipse a strange object appeared in the sky.
I don't know if it was a spaceship and I don't care. That's not the point, so don't even think about it right now.
Whatever was in the sky would have been there had the solar elcipse not occured. The solar eclipse is important becuase it had everyone's eyes pointed up.
The eleven becomes a more commonly seen sight not because it is more common, but because you notice it and look for it.
I believe everyone in this room failed to realize that the songs were written in 94 or 95. He would have only been like 8 or even younger. This song wasn't written in 2003. It isn't mathematical genius to figure that out.
ill just point out one thing.....maynard JAMES keenan, and what is jimmy short for.....i think its james.......thats all im saying, and i think both of you assume to much, just as mstajduh said
Hi. I'm new to this page and will probably not post anymore after this.
I actually stumbled upon this page because I was searching for meaning for the song Jimmy. And the meaning which I was 100% certain it had was Rebecca's interpretation. However, nobody here seems to understand the signifance of the number 11. Do what she says and type it into a search engine.
This song has had very concrete meaning for me since the very first time I had heard it. It was so obvious to me, while all of you struggle to understand it (no sarcasm/offense intended)..
Lisence plates, digital clocks, etc. etc. I don't know what it means, but I think it is highly spiritual. And if you think I just have "subconscious good timing" forget about it. A friend told me exactly that. As he turned back around in his passenger seat in my car at the gas station, my pump stopped at 11.111 gallons.
I looked around and gathered a variety of opinions, because some of the pages are pretty wacky. I came away with this: focus your thoughts when you see 11. It'll take you "home" as maynard said.
My purpose was to help out Rebecca and support her interpretation. Because I felt that way long before I ever found this discussion online.
Thank you,
Joe
Thank you, Joe. I'm glad you support me. You have heard the call. 11:11 is a request of you and an option. You have a choice. In the era we have been born into, This new world, we are the children of the light, the lightworkers. We can choose to either be part of it, or close our minds, sit back and do nothing until we die, or, be a sheep, and believe only what we hear from our leaders. what have you choosen to do? By the way, it's good to keep a log of your communications with the gateway, like when, where, what time (if you see 1111 on a license plate, gas pump and it's not 11:11 am or pm) who you were with, what your were saying or thinking. It may just add up when you read back the log to yourself.
The more I read about this 11:11 and 1:11 phenomenon, the more it makes sense to me. Thanks for that interpretation....and for referring me to the album section.
And I just remembered that I was born at exactly 1:11am April 4, 1985. Not that it really has any significance, but I have never recognized 11 in my daily life....I have always related to the number 4....and it has always brought me luck. Great post though.
Soul Trapp...what are you talking about? Who would be 11? Please explain...
__________________ l don't want to be alone again today...
Hold me close and together we'll pray
That this moment never fades away...
Fade away, fade away, like any other day.
The song never says 11:11...it only says 11 more than one time.
__________________ l don't want to be alone again today...
Hold me close and together we'll pray
That this moment never fades away...
Fade away, fade away, like any other day.
The song never says 11:11...it only says 11 more than one time.
Come on, have you actually listened to the song, perhaps on an audio system of good quality? 11:11 is repeated numerous times! As Tool is interested in the mysteries, they have reapeated 11:11 in an echo, when Maynard says till' one (one) and one, (one) are one (are one) eleven so... 11 and 11 are 11 11 so...
Read again: 11 and 11, are 11 11 ! so...!
thats eleven eleven eleven eleven... and it is repeated through the song like when he says eleven is standing still (whisper: waiting for me) waiting for me to free her by coming ho o o o o o o o o o me.
Do you get it now?
I think you are a crazy biatch trying to push your thoughts on other people. If someone wants to stay in th dark about how things YOU perceive are, then let them stay blind.
People like to think the way they think.
Now, I have not heard of this 11:11 thing before, but I will check it out.
But just because YOU think that this is the way it is.
Sometimes the simplest answer IS the correct one, not everything has 20 layers.
That is what is so great about this band.
I adore your passion, just please... direct it in a more helpful and caring way.
The more I read about 11:11, the more I laugh my ass of at this pathetic excuse for a new age belief system. I have yet to read anything founded on coherent thought or even remotely scientific regarding 11:11, apart from the criticism of physicists, psychologists and mathematicians. None of it can be demonstrated. (If anyone does has proof based on something even remotely scientific, I'll be excited to come back here and stick my foot in my mouth)
Stop looking for justifications. Live your life to the fullest. Become a better person according to your own volition. You don't need a guide, a gateway, or special numbers to set you "free". Live, work hard, play harder, love, breed, grow... or not! Do your own thing. Down with the gods, be your own master!
Whether Maynard based the song on 11:11 or not, I don't know. I accept the fact that there are similiarities. But if he did, I would be sorely disappointed.
i'm going with BBQ and definitely reddish on this one
Why do you notice 11:11? BECAUSE ITS UNIQUE. Humans pick up on things that are unique - it's hardwired into our genetics. That's what makes us able to decypher things so quickly and with such accuracy. Eventually, after picking up on something unique a couple times, it starts to act as a cue mechanism in our memories, at which point we'll pick up on it even more as we start to look for it/think about it.
like bbq said, any person from a scientific standpoint will tell you this is bullshit, and offer a perfectly valid reason as to why you see 11:11 more often than 'other' numbers. Believing them or not is your own choice.
Why do you notice 11:11? BECAUSE ITS UNIQUE. Humans pick up on things that are unique - it's hardwired into our genetics. That's what makes us able to decypher things so quickly and with such accuracy. Eventually, after picking up on something unique a couple times, it starts to act as a cue mechanism in our memories, at which point we'll pick up on it even more as we start to look for it/think about it.
Ah. This reminds me of when I was 14 and read "The Amityville Horror". It is a horror story (doh) about a family who lives in a house haunted by the ghosts of the previous occupants. The occupants were all murdered by the father, who woke up in the middle of the night, precisely at 3:15am, and decided to make a salami and roast-beef special with his wife and kids, and tops it off by eating his 12 guage shot-gun. Fun stuff!
Anyway, the father of the new inhabiting family starts to wake-up consistently at 3:15am, every single night. As he does, he begings to take on the less charming personality traits of the ghost father.
The book was so scary that I started having a hard time going to sleep. As a matter of fact, I started waking up in the middle of the night. Can you guess what time I woke up EVERY NIGHT for about a week?
No. You idiots! It was not at 11:11. It was at 3:15am. :)
The point being that the mind is a very complex and somewhat poorly understood organ. The power of suggestion (self or induced) can go a loooong way.
I went to 7-11 today to pick up a pack of smokes and it tripped me out because when I was going to open the door I saw the reflection of the big sign in the glass and...the 11. so I turned around and looked at the sign and there it was...11 again. I swished my head back and forth from the reflection to the sign and for a split section I saw 11:11. Then I went inside and bought my smokes and a couple lottery tickets and on each ticket there was the number 11.
Yup. No lie.
If I win the lottery I'll be pretty damned convinced that it was indeed a sign.
...If I win the lottery I'll be pretty damned convinced that it was indeed a sign...
Call me crazy, but I don't think that's the kind of sign the lightworkers had in mind. Although if 11:11 is the gateway to winning the lotto, you can count me in. :P
I think you are a crazy biatch trying to push your thoughts on other people. If someone wants to stay in th dark about how things YOU perceive are, then let them stay blind.
People like to think the way they think.
Now, I have not heard of this 11:11 thing before, but I will check it out.
But just because YOU think that this is the way it is.
Sometimes the simplest answer IS the correct one, not everything has 20 layers.
That is what is so great about this band.
I adore your passion, just please... direct it in a more helpful and caring way.
If not, then shut the F up already
Fuck your small minded ideals. If people want to stay close minded to all this, that's their problem, but I will not shut the fuck up and sit back while all you fucking sleeping sheep are lead to slaughter, I'm gonna make it as hard as possible for your murderers, even if your ignorance causes you to deserve that freindly blow to the head.
Youv'e never heard of it before, exactly. So do some fucking research instead of drawing up blind opinions on the subject.
The more I read about 11:11, the more I laugh my ass of at this pathetic excuse for a new age belief system. I have yet to read anything founded on coherent thought or even remotely scientific regarding 11:11, apart from the criticism of physicists, psychologists and mathematicians. None of it can be demonstrated. (If anyone does has proof based on something even remotely scientific, I'll be excited to come back here and stick my foot in my mouth)
Stop looking for justifications. Live your life to the fullest. Become a better person according to your own volition. You don't need a guide, a gateway, or special numbers to set you "free". Live, work hard, play harder, love, breed, grow... or not! Do your own thing. Down with the gods, be your own master!
Whether Maynard based the song on 11:11 or not, I don't know. I accept the fact that there are similiarities. But if he did, I would be sorely disappointed.
I'm sure the disinformers who dubbed the 1111 "new age" are laughing their asses off at you writing it off like they want you to.
There are MANY interperatations of the 1111 from a scientific standpoint, but I doubt your lazy ass even looked up any before your post. There are many manufactured oppositions out there, for example, republicans and democrats being two sides of the same coin, duh.
Sometimes the line between spirituality and science is not so clear. Sometimes science isn't as plain and simple as some see it.
For example, If you look at the world at an atomic level, what makes up an atom, there are all sorts of oddities and so called impossibilities going on. Some that seem to defy our veiw of dimensions and even time itself. They can be compared at our level to the act of walking through a solid wall, or being at two or more places a the same exact time. So don't be so quick to define all by the guidelines of science, remember science was created out of spiritualism, and always will be the pursuit of finding spiritualism in the form of matter. As quoted from third eye,
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is really energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one conciousness expiriencing itself subjectively."
The 1111 symbolizes a return to that one conciousness, and at some levels, evolving into a more understanding and clearly communicating being.
I am living my life to the fullest and becoming a better person, but freedom isn't as free and simple as you have put it. It is becoming clearer and clearer that our very freedom that you ironically speak so freely of is slowly being taken from us each day under your nose in the form of politics, bills, regulations, corporations, ext. It's not so easy to be your own master living behind the fences of tyranny. Maybe if you woke up as well, and woke up a couple of your freinds and so on, we wouldn't have to worry about freedom so much.
I don't think Maynard alone wrote this song. From the way it is played, I hear all of the members putting out the same vibration.
You would be sorely dissapointed? What for!? Because the members and freinds of Tool have educated themselves in these great areas?! I highly respect Tool for using there time and talent in life to research and discover these highly important magikal occurances. I am sure Tool is way more dissapointed in their close minded so called fans!
Ah. This reminds me of when I was 14 and read "The Amityville Horror". It is a horror story (doh) about a family who lives in a house haunted by the ghosts of the previous occupants. The occupants were all murdered by the father, who woke up in the middle of the night, precisely at 3:15am, and decided to make a salami and roast-beef special with his wife and kids, and tops it off by eating his 12 guage shot-gun. Fun stuff!
Anyway, the father of the new inhabiting family starts to wake-up consistently at 3:15am, every single night. As he does, he begings to take on the less charming personality traits of the ghost father.
The book was so scary that I started having a hard time going to sleep. As a matter of fact, I started waking up in the middle of the night. Can you guess what time I woke up EVERY NIGHT for about a week?
No. You idiots! It was not at 11:11. It was at 3:15am. :)
The point being that the mind is a very complex and somewhat poorly understood organ. The power of suggestion (self or induced) can go a loooong way.
Mis 2 centavos. Gracias.
You can keep your two cents. Whos the idiot? Your the one who got so scared and brainwashed by a cheesy low budget flick.
HAHAHA!
Suggestion, subliminal messages and brainwashing are put out by greedy men, but the 1111 is a purity in any form put out by the one. Don't mix your drinks.
I understand that and most of the 1111 stuff. I did a Google search and someone bought me very useless book about it as a gift. I think you just put far too much importance on the number 1111. I doubt you'll agree with me on that.
I think his parents were the main idea behind the lyrics because of the title of the album and the track pushit. Pushit sounds, to me, like it's about being in a bad relationship with someone, but not being able to or wanting to get out. Anima (i think that's how it's spelled) is a term Carl Young used to decribe the femenine part of a person's mind that many males repress. I don't have the time to write it all down, but you probably know something about it anyway. If not just do google a search, or you might find something at a library.
Since reading your interpretation a few months back Rebecca, I've noticed 1111 popping up in many areas of my life, and I have since seen an interview with Maynard where he speaks about Synchronicity, in the form of numbers. I read through a lot of websites relating to the phenomenom. It's very interesting stuff, but I can't help but remain scepticle, because it all sounds so similar to a fairy tale. You may say I'm in denial of the call, and that I'm not yet ready to leave the constructs of reality and time which are so familiar to me, but who can say?
I think if you believe something enough, it eventually becomes true. If you've ever see the movie Pi, you'll understand how I'm reminded of this, in that the protagnist of the film begins to search desperately for a 2## digit number. He is reminded by his mentor that if he searches hard enough, in his own mind he can find anything.
If you've found truth for yourself, I'm not trying to discredit or dispute that. I'm just weighing up the particulars in my own mind.
There have been occasions when I've seen 11:11 on my car sterio, and have thought "so, its time for some change", and within minutes/hours, I have begun to head back up the spiral. Thanks for explaining your idea, it's certainly given me - and still is giving me - a lot to think about.
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On a related note, in my web travels I discovered something interesting. I went to http://www.fusionanomaly.net and typed in 11:11 in their search engine. It came up with a link to the band Devo. So thinking I might as well pursue it, I went forth and read a little about them. I learned that Devo once released a song titled "Jimmy"... Now, what was the name of Maynard's alleged son again?
Since reading your interpretation a few months back Rebecca, I've noticed 1111 popping up in many areas of my life, and I have since seen an interview with Maynard where he speaks about Synchronicity, in the form of numbers. I read through a lot of websites relating to the phenomenom. It's very interesting stuff, but I can't help but remain scepticle, because it all sounds so similar to a fairy tale. You may say I'm in denial of the call, and that I'm not yet ready to leave the constructs of reality and time which are so familiar to me, but who can say?
I think if you believe something enough, it eventually becomes true. If you've ever see the movie Pi, you'll understand how I'm reminded of this, in that the protagnist of the film begins to search desperately for a 2## digit number. He is reminded by his mentor that if he searches hard enough, in his own mind he can find anything.
If you've found truth for yourself, I'm not trying to discredit or dispute that. I'm just weighing up the particulars in my own mind.
There have been occasions when I've seen 11:11 on my car sterio, and have thought "so, its time for some change", and within minutes/hours, I have begun to head back up the spiral. Thanks for explaining your idea, it's certainly given me - and still is giving me - a lot to think about.
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On a related note, in my web travels I discovered something interesting. I went to http://www.fusionanomaly.net and typed in 11:11 in their search engine. It came up with a link to the band Devo. So thinking I might as well pursue it, I went forth and read a little about them. I learned that Devo once released a song titled "Jimmy"... Now, what was the name of Maynard's alleged son again?
It sure did spin me out.
People who haven't heard of the 1111 phenomena also see the number often, and will either think it's odd and wait a long while before researching it, or will block it out completely over a fear of being obsessive compulsive or maybe even thought of as "odd".
Whatever the matter, it's up to the individual to step through to the other side. It matters less what others tell you than to know it for your self.
"PI" is a great example of a simular path. Kabbalaism, as mentioned in the movie, is utilized to express the name of god, the infinity number, the pattern to all life. The simularity is in the connection of the "one" in everything that is seen as being "individual".
It is diffucult for many to believe that everything wich makes them an individual, all of their thoughts, emotions, life expiriences, so on, is a way for the collective life force, or one, to expirience itself subjectively.
People often want to feel supirior to other people, animals, things, They may keep it deep inside and hide it from others, but it is there. A selfish desire to rule. To be the most important. Inversion.
To believe that you are truely the same and equal to the next person, you are both part of the same life, you are an individual inside of yourself, though you can't possible survive without the support of the whole, is hard. But this is ultimately the point then, isn't it. The ultimate test.
I encourage everyone out there to research the nwo on their own. This is a dangerous time. All the peices are coming together for them now. There is in fact a WAR ON FOR YOUR MIND. At least try and save yourself.
A great wealth of knowledge on the nwo can be found at www.educate-yourself.org/nwo/
Give yourself time to sit and read through the vast amount of info instead of skimming through. You will see just how sick coverup america is, and it will give you the oppourtunity to evaluate your own mind. I suggest taking notes, especially about the MK-Ultra project, Monarch, Neuro-linguistic programming, Gerold Ford, Senator Robert Byrd, Dick Thornburgh and so on for further and deeper research, especially via internet.
Sure alot of it sounds outrageous, until of course you realize and remember that sick shit like this goes on daily, maybe even in your house on your computer, or the family next door.
Who do you think rules our world? it is a small world after all, and getting smaller and more easily accessible with all of those cool, cute little camera phones and helpful in-vehicle onstar systems, oh yeah, and all of those watchful little cameras on every corner.
A site that is doing a great deal of good for the disinformationalists is www.greatdreams.com/nwo-good.htm#humanity
Careful with this one, you are bound to twist your own ideals if you are nor careful. They lace alot of truth with fluffy deception.
left side of brain (1) + right side of brain (1) = one entity, one being; an 11. in numerology, the number eleven is the master number. the name 'jesus' reduces to the number eleven. symbolically, what did jesus have? christ-consciousness; a lack of divison between the logical and the emotional, the male and his anima (the female and her animus); being one within yourself. a connection to all life through unconditional love. that's what this whole album is about. (eleven and SHE was gone... waiting for me to free HIM by...) the logical left side sees division everywhere; black and white, good and evil, god and the 'devil'. the emotional right side knows through feeling that there is one all-encompassing 'god', although it can't explain it. any child will tell you god is there 'because he is.' no deep theological discussions because they are incapable of it; it just is because they feel it. when did we lose that? (a child's rhyme stuck in my head said that life is but a dream. i've spent so many years in question to find i've known this all along.) nobody talks about the inner-child when it was just the child, before we repressed it. it's just become all that cliched crap of "getting in touch w/ your inner-child." this is getting long, so i'll stop here.
