http://synesthesiacorp.com/home.html

just watch the damn videos under media, they are amazing.
"listen for mandalas all over tools upcoming release"

Thats virtually adding a new instrument to the band, danny can play melodies now. Please point out where you hear anything at all like those videos on the leak.

quite a bit actually, you just have to listen closely

Vicarious? Intension?

I think is the best proof we have that what we have now is a fake version on 10,000 Days. I don't hear anything as cool as that shit on what I have downloaded. Great find. Can't wait for May 2nd.

Are you guys fucking dumb? Carey uses the Mandala pad ALL over the album. Just because you didn't hear one of the 5 or 6 six sounds you heard on the website repeated on the album doesn't mean it's fake, dumbshits. The whole beginning of the VERY FIRST SONG is covered w/ mandala pad parts.
Jesus. You guys must fucking mix in paintchips with your pot.

Damn you may have something!

This whole thing is making my head spin and I am afraid to believe that 10,000 days is a decoy album because it's so good and I don't want to get my hopes up (that there is a 2nd even better album) and then be let down!

But I have to say that the potential things Danny could do with this I don't think I have heard on 10,000 days.

EXACTLY!! the only track that is without question new has mandala parts :)
Intension i assume is refering to those electronic beats at the end? There is no way that is mandalas. Listen to that beat, there is no velocity changes going on with the hits, that beat is sequenced. Its not even good either, no way thats danny playing.

Just watch the last video on the mandalas site. I assume that is not danny playing but that could be wrong. If it is there is nothing as cool sounding as on those videos on the leak. If its not....then I cant even imagine what danny can do with these, but instead of using his new custom instrument on the first tool album he has it available for him, he plays in a 10 year old style when he wasnt even close to as good as he is now on the Pot.

I think what I find so ammusing and fun about this conspiracy is you hardcore fans are so use to conspiracy/crowley/numerology bullshit that when presented with facts you can taste and touch you don't even know how to process it at this point :>

That thing is fuckin sick!! wow....

Im listening to it right now. He definitely does use those, but it doesn't sound the same as the mandala website because HE IS PLAYING THEM IN A FUCKING ROCK BAND. THEY DON'T COME THROUGH SOUNDING LIKE THE FUCKING SAMPLE FROM THE MAKERS OF THAT PAD.

back yourself up, WHERE. post track titles and times.

Favorite Mandala bit: right at the beginning of Right in Two....
listen for it at around the 0:50 mark, plays until 1:20

QFT.

SNAKES ON FUCKING PLANE!

Good to see I wasn't the only one hearing that.

i think if you guys listened to this on a decent stereo you would hear the same sound.

Man, I wish May 2nd would hurry up and come so the misinformed posts with completely false information (you can hear the mandala on the album in at least two songs by my count) will cease.

All the Mandela is, is a new electronic pad, whats the big fucking deal? You people are getting a hardon over something that Danny has been using since Ænema, at least. What do you think the twangy plunky sound is at the beginning of Stinkfist? Its just a sample, triggered on an electronic drumpad.

Mandala is used also in the beginning of The Pot.

The Mandala pad isn't used in intension.

Hello and welcome to my sig-line.

i hear this in vicarious

What an amazing little instrument. I'd love to add one to my kit but it's a little too expensive for me.

Now, for all of you who think this ISN'T heard on the album, go the Tech Specs section of the Synesthesia website and look at all the parameters and instruments you can play with. It's entirely possible that two of you could own the Mandala pad, and never use the same sounds.

actually i take back everything about this album being a bsides.
i think those arabic drums in Rosetta Stoned are mandalas.

I can't believe that any of you are actually tool fans.. Danny started using the mandala in aenema... It's in just about every song since...Are you guys all serious?
Yes it is in intensions and jambi and vicarious andright in two, the pot, wings 1&2, - ions, jimmy, parabol, parabola, ticks and leeches, third eye, aenema, pushit 46 & 2...You name a song it's there.....

Wots with the planets in the background the drum being played is lined up with saturn! Weird.

haha, honored.

Ass. Synesthesia started in 1999. Read it in their page.

"Danny uses Mandalas extensively live and in studio. He worked closely with synesthesia corp ovr a 4 year period*

Go to your local music store and meet the drum pads that produced the sounds on aenima. Or go to dannycarey.org and play them by yourself.

And mandala IS in 10,000 days. But why do you expect to hear the same patterns as in the website? Obviously danny personalized them for 10.000 days.

<~~ Tool fan

Guys,

A pad that connects to your brain? come on.

the whole point here is: use your brain

Isn't a mandala being played in Merkaba?

danny said in an interview that on intension, the electronic drum sounds are samples he plays on the mandalas. also, do you think he's going to play an actual tabla in the middle of right in two? he'll use the mandalas for those sounds too.
the only think I'm waiting for is when he uses the wrong presets live, and turns a song upside down. imagine instead of the bell sounds at the beginning of vicarious, there were the roto-tom sounds from reflection.

didn't danny just use simmonds(sp?) pads on the previous albums before using these mandalas on 10k days. the mandalas being far more advanced than the simmonds. you can actually play melodies on these pads and the surface can trigger different samples, instead of just one like with the simmonds (could be wrong on this one).eitherway the mandalas can be heard all over the new album, he just plays them subtly...

this is what i still dont understand, from 14 Dec 04:
"Danny was doing what he does best (better than ever, I might add), and the acoustic drums were combined with lots of electronic samples of dissonant clocks, warped timpani, eruptions of noise and explosions of what sounded like bizarre artillery."

this is exactly the kind of stuff the mandalas would be great at doing that other drum triggers wouldnt be able to do.
While there are certain parts on the leak that could be mandalas you have to admit there is nothing that really stands out, and nothing even as close to as cool as those videos.

I'm wrong. But my point is lost...The mandalas sound like the simmons drums, and they are all over the place on this album....stupid link to stupid video proves nothing... unless you wanted proof that i could fit my whole foot in my mouth

I definately think that is Danny playing on Intension (why wouldn't it be - and whether or not it's him is irrelevant), but, as this guys says, that drum is definately not the Mandala. You really need to go to the Mandala site and see what they can do. Danny has lots of electronic drums. Just because you hear an electronic drum, don't just assume it's his Mandala - go to the site. In fact on Vicarious the chime sounds (not the alarm noise, which is the mandala) are his other electronic drums, not his mandala. Why do I know this? Because I went to the site and saw what the mandala can do.

The problem with most nay-sayers is that they don't read the posts in their entirety, and refuse to look at the evidence. That metality is why we have a fuck-wit in the white house.

The mandala does not sound like the Simmons drum. The limitations of the Simmons drum are the reasons why Danny worked with this company to develop the Mandala. And Danny still has the Simmons drums on his kit.

The thing is..they are electric drums, and they can sound however you want them to sound.....And I do think they sound very similar.

they're just triggers for any sample you put on them. I'm pretty sure the mandalas wouldn't be programmed with all danny's samples. danny can put whatever his mind imagines onto the pads, and it is probably constantly changing.
I think the improvement from the simmons pads to the mandala was the sensitivity, you can play much faster repeated samples (needed for tabla stuff), and they are probably able to produce wider dynamics based on the pressure applied (very important in electronic drums, it's the difference between professional tools and toys)
also, I bet he will trigger the thunder sounds on wings pt2 with the mandalas live.

Yeah I agree with you here on the differences. But he didn't replace his Simmons drums (you can still hear them on Vicarious, they make the chime noises, not the alarm noise), he just added a Mandala to his kit. Need proof? Go to the Mandala website (like we've been begging you to http://synesthesiacorp.com/home.html) and click "endorsees". You will see a picture of Danny's kit. The Mandala is the red drum, he has two electronic drums to the right (probably the simmons drums), and one to the left (I dunno what that is, perhaps an electronic tabla?) You can even see another simmons drum in the bottom left of the picture. So yes, I agree with you, he can put what ever his mind imagines into the Mandala, but there is a certain pattern of imagination/sound he can produce with the Mandala, and that pattern is missing in all of the songs except Vicarious.

it's in there

stop digging