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Old 04-15-2006, 10:54 PM   #1
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The intro is symetric

If you listen to the intro backwards, it sounds the same
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:00 PM   #2
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Re: The intro is symetric

Hey, what do ya know, he's right.

That's a neat, useless fact.
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Re: The intro is symetric

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If you listen to the intro backwards, it sounds the same
Hey, so does the intro of Reflection!
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:06 PM   #4
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Hey, so does the intro of Reflection!
very cool
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Re: The intro is symetric

good find.... i wonder if it is backwards, or fowards...?
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:59 PM   #6
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Re: The intro is symetric

i believe it's called a palindrome.
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Re: The intro is symetric

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Hey, so does the intro of Reflection!
No it doesn't... or at least the drums aren't symmetric. :)
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Re: The intro is symetric

along with the reflection thing....ever since i first heard the song, i always thought that it sounded a little backwards, when it was played forwards. the whole tabla drumming and the way maynards notes come out. i went through a phase of playing songs backwards (another one bites the dust, stairway to heaven....) so i know what "backwards sounds" sound like. reflection always sounded a little backwards....
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Re: The intro is symetric

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along with the reflection thing....ever since i first heard the song, i always thought that it sounded a little backwards, when it was played forwards. the whole tabla drumming and the way maynards notes come out. i went through a phase of playing songs backwards (another one bites the dust, stairway to heaven....) so i know what "backwards sounds" sound like. reflection always sounded a little backwards....
So... does Vicarious sounds backwards?
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Re: The intro is symetric

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No it doesn't...
It does too!
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Re: The intro is symetric

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So... does Vicarious sounds backwards?
not if you listen to it backwards.....
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Re: The intro is symetric

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If you listen to the intro backwards, it sounds the same
That's worth knowing, thanks a lot!
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Re: The intro is symetric

that's actually really cool
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Re: The intro is symetric

Maybe they played it backwards on the record, so when you play the intro backwards, it's actually forwards. Deeeeep.

Yeah, useless fact, yet interesting.
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Wait, so "Vicarious" isn't a decoy neccesarily, but the real new single is "Vicarious" backwards? OMGZ
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Re: The intro is symetric

how does one play a song backwards
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Maybe they played it backwards on the record, so when you play the intro backwards, it's actually forwards. Deeeeep.

Yeah, useless fact, yet interesting.
that wouldn't matter...becuase it sounds almost the same backwards (the drum hits sound a little off, but that cant be avoided..)
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Re: The intro is symetric

it's not the same backwards. Similar, but not the same. Look, it's all straight eighth notes, bass and guitar, playing the same sequence four times, so you won't notice a difference in rhythm. Backwards, you have the same notes, but in a different order.
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Re: The intro is symetric

"D'you know, that if you play the New Kids On The Block record backwards, it sounds better? Yeah..."

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Old 04-16-2006, 11:12 AM   #21
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Re: The intro is symetric

just like if you play disposition backwards you hear maynard say

"i wish i were a hole"
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Old 04-16-2006, 11:36 AM   #22
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Re: The intro is symetric

Wow, they must have taken The Patient, reversed it, and put it on the new album.

Also, Reflection isn't symmetrical. Similar, but not exactly.

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Old 04-16-2006, 12:16 PM   #23
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Re: The intro is symetric

Um... you guys are all wrong. It only sounds symetric because you haven't heard the intro enough times to actually understand what's going on there with the notes the two are playing. I don't claim to think that I know, but I can tell it's not the same melody backwards as forwards. Just sounds that way because every Tool song uses the same 5 goddamn notes these days, it seems... patient, schism, now this. Silly regurgitators...
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Re: The intro is symetric

im confused, it it backwards or forwards?
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Re: The intro is symetric

It's forwards because the notes on the guitar decay properly. It's also forwards because, as 'iamisandisnt' said, it's not palendromic or symmetric, it's just the same 5 notes played in reverse. Reflection also isn't palendromic, you can tell, the bassline is merely backwards, not a proper palendrome.
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Re: The intro is symetric

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that wouldn't matter...becuase it sounds almost the same backwards (the drum hits sound a little off, but that cant be avoided..)
Haha. Exactly. That's what I was aiming at. You get an A+
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i believe it's called a palindrome.
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What program did you guys use to play the song backward? I would be interested to listen to other songs backward as well.
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Re: The intro is symetric

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Just sounds that way because every Tool song uses the same 5 goddamn notes these days, it seems... patient, schism, now this. Silly regurgitators...
I didnt know they only had three songs..
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Re: The intro is symetric

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Um... you guys are all wrong. It only sounds symetric because you haven't heard the intro enough times to actually understand what's going on there with the notes the two are playing. I don't claim to think that I know, but I can tell it's not the same melody backwards as forwards. Just sounds that way because every Tool song uses the same 5 goddamn notes these days, it seems... patient, schism, now this. Silly regurgitators...
theres only 12 notes in the chromatic scale :o
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You people make me laugh :)
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