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Old 07-28-2009, 09:51 PM   #1321
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Re: General Tool tour questions / discussion

Dude Junior, your a badass. You must love Tool as much as us since you frequent the forums so much. I gave you a long ass thanks earlier in this thread and Im gonna do it again. Thanks for being an amazingly critical element to Tool's live essence. The experiences you and those crafty bastards known as Tool have given me, I am forever grateful for.
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hey JR do you guys usually set up for the show early in the morning?? I know you guys have a day off today but do you have everything ready for tomorrow right now??? Or do you have to sort through all this shit every time you open up the trucks??
We start at 9am (typically) on the day of the show, and have everything functional by around 2pm.
Then I start focusing (aiming) the lights, the video guys dial in the projectors, and the sound guys EQ the PA for the room and test all of the inputs. Generally the stage is ready for the band to soundcheck by around 4 or 5pm, and then there is usually a small amount of time left over for the opening act to do a soundcheck before doors open.
Days off are days off, unless the next show is going to be 'challenging' for one or more reasons (like a festival, for example). Also, if it's a long drive from the last show (today wasn't) our days off become more of an evening off. NM to San Antonio was about 13 hours, so we didn't see the San Antonio hotel until mid afternoon. We've had some really long drives over the years (20 hours +) that have gotten us into our day off at 6pm or later (usually in Europe).

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I don't understand how the band thinks that a live DVD takes away from the experience of an actual show. Other than they would have to hire a group to actual record it, and do all the dirty work. But still if they were to release this show to a Live Recording....I think it would only help the band. They don't have to personalize it. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that would support something of that magnitude.
I know a lot of you guys think maynard is a dick but.... the reasoning for no dvd makes a lot of sence after you listen to AJ and Maynard explain it. That being said I think they will eventually release one once they are finished making albums.

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Have you seen pictures of the grand canyon? LOL !!!
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Junior, I'm assuming the "4 new lights" are the ones which during the intermission are spinning around with purple-whitish colours while rotating through the audience.

...The spiraling colours with the circle of dots around the head of the light?

Okay, that was a horrible description, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
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Junior, I'm assuming the "4 new lights" are the ones which during the intermission are spinning around with purple-whitish colours while rotating through the audience.

...The spiraling colours with the circle of dots around the head of the light?

Okay, that was a horrible description, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
I believe the ones you are talking about were used on the 2007 tour as well. That's a very cool effect during intermission. I imagine "the circle of dots around the head" are LEDs.
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junior- how is the Jersey show shaping up? Are you going to be able to use all of the Tool rig or do you have to use festival lights?
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hah this bojangles coliseum place is amusing. "jwb" and I just took a walk around the venue and managed to get into restricted areas. We got behind the tour bus area without any security/barriers and talked to some of the tool tech crew people. (hey junior - your video tech says you don't drink beer, only wine - wtf? I swear I saw you with heinekens the other day).

and there's a bunch of wagons/trucks selling "bojangles chicken"

what an amusing venue...
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How much are the Autographed Posters at the Shows?
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How much are the Autographed Posters at the Shows?
$100.
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Anybody twittering tonight?
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Anyone think that they have been approached to do Outside Lands in SF? Either before they picked the setlist, or currently now that the Beastie Boys, Sunday's headliner, had to cancel?
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No one twittering the shows lately? I'll be doing it for the Cincy show if anyone still cares about the set list by then...
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looks like jwb is giving us updates.... ill be doing cincy too..... and lolla
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^^I'll be your back up at Lolla. I'm just gonna post it here though, fuck Twatter.
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right on... im sure there will be many a post coming from chicago that night
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right on... im sure there will be many a post coming from chicago that night
More than likely. I'll see how many people on here are going to do it, if it's more than you, me and a Twitter-er or two I may say "fuck it".
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lol, bojangles chicken!?? I need to visit the east coast sometime. Thanks for keeping us updated on the show fellas!
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I'll of course post here during All Points West. Hope you guys like My Bloody Valentine updates! :D

Seriously tho, I have no idea how Tool fans are going to react to the "Holocaust". Been thinking about this for some time and now it's finally here.
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Adam tours with 2 Silverbursts, and both of them are working fine. It's some of the switching electronics between the guitar and amp that have been having issues lately.

He used to also carry a Sunburst Les Paul that was strung and tuned differently for 'Prison Sex' and 'Parabol/a', but I haven't seen that guitar on the road in awhile.
I hope that adam has it, but its just hidden
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looks like same set in charlotte, no surprises
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junior- how is the Jersey show shaping up? Are you going to be able to use all of the Tool rig or do you have to use festival lights?
Lighting is going to be about 50/50. Lasers "should" be 100%. Video should be about 80%.
We're working on the details for Lollapalooza next.
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Horrible venue. The crowd in my section was godawful, as well. Will post a longer review when the thread opens up.
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No one twittering the shows lately? I'll be doing it for the Cincy show if anyone still cares about the set list by then...
Prediction for Cinci............hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmm

I think it just MIGHT be

Jambi
Stinkfist
46 & 2
Schism
Rosetta Stoned
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Aenema
Lateralus
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Prediction for Cinci............hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmm

I think it just MIGHT be

Jambi
Stinkfist
46 & 2
Schism
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Aenema
Lateralus
Vicarious
you forgot the new addition to the setlist Lost Keys (**** NEW AUDIO *****) woo hoo!!!!

Wonder how long before a new album?
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I'll of course post here during All Points West. Hope you guys like My Bloody Valentine updates! :D

Seriously tho, I have no idea how Tool fans are going to react to the "Holocaust". Been thinking about this for some time and now it's finally here.
Well as we talked about before I'm a Tool fan and loved MBV and that "strumming that lasts a really long time" song..

Looking for ward to Lolla
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Lighting is going to be about 50/50. Lasers "should" be 100%. Video should be about 80%.
We're working on the details for Lollapalooza next.
There is (now) no major headliner conflict with Tool at Lolla, they will be the only game in town that night.

I guess this is bad for me since the entire fest will pretty much be there.
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Well as we talked about before I'm a Tool fan and loved MBV and that "strumming that lasts a really long time" song..

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Yea well... not many people like you I don't think. Here's to having a stadium full of Embryo 2s at APW!
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Yea well... not many people like you I don't think. Here's to having a stadium full of Embryo 2s at APW!
If they can put up with Tweek Bird, Fantomas and Tomahawk they can handle MBV!

but thanks!
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I am a newbie here, tell me who was at Tools concerts and what are your impressins of them?
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Has anyone considered the fact that the band is simply making a mockery of its fans during this tour? For example, I read a review saying last night in Charlotte that Maynard "made absolutely no attempt at connecting with the audience". Nothing new here, but I also read that he said something along the lines of "let the masturbation begin" before Lateralus. Did it ever occur to anyone that he is possibly mocking everyone in the crowd? That they are all such dipshits that they'll literally jack off to the music of Tool?

I seriously think that he is sickened by the crowd, and is amused by the whole thing. He goes out, makes the money that the dipshit fans will pay to see a completely recycled concert, and then get on sites like this one and rave about the show being the "best they've ever seen", even though half of them have already seen the same show, and in all reality it isn't the best show they've ever seen.

I can tell you one thing. The first time I saw Tool in 2002 was a thousand times better than the show I saw on this tour. Leaving that show was one of the biggest natural highs I've ever had. This years show was not even in the same galaxy as that one. And I seriously think that anyone who thinks these shows are satisfactory are out of their minds, that they are mindlessly worshiping Tool just for hells sake.

For everyone that says Maynard sings with his back to the crowd because he wants to take the attention off of him and give it to the other band members is completely nuts. First of all, someone doing something as unorthodox as singing with their back to the crowd is going to get attention for doing that by itself, and have everyone looking at them wondering what the fuck they are doing, what's going through their head, etc, even if they've seen that person do it before. I think he does this because he cannot stand the fans. The less he has to look at them and pay attention to their pathetic BS, the better. And guess what? Most fans love this! They love the fact that he hates how stupid they are.

Maynard probably gets a nice big laugh everytime he leaves a stage. He puts on a sub par show night in and night out, makes little attempt to connect with the audience, makes a ton of money doing it, and the fans still love it. And to tell you the truth, I don't blame him. I'd be doing the same exact thing if a bunch of mindless morons were blindly worshiping me.

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Where are all the bootlegs? Looks like we only have one source for Denver, San Antonio and Duluth, with Duluth being the best sound quality. I haven't seen any DVD's yet.
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Has anyone considered the fact that the band is simply making a mockery of its fans during this tour? For example, I read a review saying last night in Charlotte that Maynard "made absolutely no attempt at connecting with the audience". Nothing new here, but I also read that he said something along the lines of "let the masturbation begin" before Lateralus. Did it ever occur to anyone that he is possibly mocking everyone in the crowd? That they are all such dipshits that they'll literally jack off to the music of Tool?

I seriously think that he is sickened by the crowd, and is amused by the whole thing. He goes out, makes the money that the dipshit fans will pay to see a completely recycled concert, and then get on sites like this one and rave about the show being the "best they've ever seen", even though half of them have already seen the same show, and in all reality it isn't the best show they've ever seen.
this may have been a ground breaking thought 13 years ago. now its common knowledge. most huge bands resent their fans in one way or another, for one reason or another.

but to say they organized a tour just to mock their fans is ignorant.
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Why do they hate us? They revel in our pain and collect our money. Is it something we said?
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So what if Tool took the approach Metallica's using for the current tour and (a) mixed up the setlist with openers, ballads, classic tunes, encores and covers getting mixed up on a regular basis and (b) making shows available for download to the public within weeks of the show and (c) making show downloads available as part of a package to people who bought tickets through the fan club and presale? (See link below for the Albuquerque show I saw in October.) With anywhere from 20,000-60,000-more showing up worldwide, a dynamic, engaging, passionate and unenigmatic frontman who is the creator of some of the heaviest riffs in metal, it seems that they have steamrolled the nay sayers from the 90s, and from St Anger (the period that produced the anthem "Bleeding Me" and which was the record James and Lars wanted/had to make) and deliver the goods to the fans while keeping themselves into the gig. Shit on them if you want, but they are taking care of the fans.

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Old 07-30-2009, 07:09 AM   #1355
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Not making a "right or wrong" judgement as to the band's "treatment" of its "fans," but they have CLEARLY stated time and time again their approach to live shows, expectations, albums, their career, etc. etc. etc.


Go back and do some reading. From the looks of it... a LOT of you might be very surprised to find that all of these gripes have been addressed for many years now.
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For everyone that says Maynard sings with his back to the crowd because he wants to take the attention off of him and give it to the other band members is completely nuts. First of all, someone doing something as unorthodox as singing with their back to the crowd is going to get attention for doing that by itself, and have everyone looking at them wondering what the fuck they are doing, what's going through their head, etc, even if they've seen that person do it before. I think he does this because he cannot stand the fans. The less he has to look at them and pay attention to their pathetic BS, the better. And guess what? Most fans love this! They love the fact that he hates how stupid they are.
I would like to point out that Maynard has noted several times that the focus of the band should be... well... everyone but him. He has said that he just writes the music and that "these guys" (the rest of the band) are what everyone should love. That they make the band what it is.

I personally respect the "Maynard in the shadows" bullshit, just because I don't mind and I kind of enjoy that he's off in his own little world. I think it reveals that he's more into it than you would assume. I'm not speaking of one particular show, but the act itself. Especially on songs from 10000 days, whih is pretty much his heart and soul laid out on the table for us.
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I would like to point out that Maynard has noted several times that the focus of the band should be... well... everyone but him. He has said that he just writes the music and that "these guys" (the rest of the band) are what everyone should love. That they make the band what it is.
I think that gets lost on quite a few people. Like the kid in the merch line at SLC that asked me who is opening and then said "I don't care as long as I get to see Maynard". Maynard probably represents about 1/8 (and that might be generous) of the music being heard at a Tool show.

Personally I too enjoyed it when Maynard pulled a Fripp and retreated from the spotlight to the back of the stage beginning in 2001. It's the chemistry of the 4 members that makes, and sometimes breaks, Tool.
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Just curious, how fast to the $25 Posters sell, will they be gone in 30 minutes or 10 minutes after the show?
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Just curious, how fast to the $25 Posters sell, will they be gone in 30 minutes or 10 minutes after the show?
From past posters experiences that I've read, try getting a poster at the beginning of the show. They seem to run out near the end.
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there are a bunch of reasons that maynard hides in the shadows, he has said over and over how much he hates camera flashes; understandable right?
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