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04-22-2006, 12:59 AM

What happened to 10,000 Days being "heavy"? Was that a lie?
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Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

What happened to 10,000 Days being "heavy"? Was that a lie?
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04-22-2006, 01:00 AM

yes it was a lie.
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yes it was a lie.
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04-22-2006, 01:02 AM

It was stated that it would be heavier than the pervious album.
Vicarious, Jambi, and Rosetta Stoned are heavier than most of the songs in Lateralus.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

It was stated that it would be heavier than the pervious album.
Vicarious, Jambi, and Rosetta Stoned are heavier than most of the songs in Lateralus.
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04-22-2006, 01:10 AM

To respond to your title...because usualy people that heared it first listen to Backstreet Boys, Madonna, Spears...and we are the last ones!!!!
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

To respond to your title...because usualy people that heared it first listen to Backstreet Boys, Madonna, Spears...and we are the last ones!!!!
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04-22-2006, 01:10 AM

Plenty of songs on Lateralus are heavy in the same way that those songs are. If I were to listen to the albums side-by-side, I wouldn't think "wow, 10,000 Days is defintely heavier than Lateralus."
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

Plenty of songs on Lateralus are heavy in the same way that those songs are. If I were to listen to the albums side-by-side, I wouldn't think "wow, 10,000 Days is defintely heavier than Lateralus."
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04-22-2006, 01:12 AM

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To respond to your title...because usualy people that heared it first listen to Backstreet Boys, Madonna, Spears...and we are the last ones!!!!
But it was supposed to be heavy relative to Tool's other work.
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To respond to your title...because usualy people that heared it first listen to Backstreet Boys, Madonna, Spears...and we are the last ones!!!!
But it was supposed to be heavy relative to Tool's other work.
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04-22-2006, 01:19 AM

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But it was supposed to be heavy relative to Tool's other work.
Supposed - by who?
People that are mostly radio d.j., conctractors...not hardcore TOOL fans
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But it was supposed to be heavy relative to Tool's other work.
Supposed - by who?
People that are mostly radio d.j., conctractors...not hardcore TOOL fans
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04-22-2006, 01:20 AM

It's heavy, it has heavy songs. It's as heavy as any other Tool album. I don't care about a Tool album being heavy. No point debating that since it's irrelevant.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

It's heavy, it has heavy songs. It's as heavy as any other Tool album. I don't care about a Tool album being heavy. No point debating that since it's irrelevant.
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04-22-2006, 01:21 AM

Agree.
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Agree.
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04-22-2006, 01:27 AM

Go back to the movie Back to the Future when Micheal J Fox said, "Man this is heavy." And Doc. Brown responeded, "What, is there something wrong with the Earth's gravinaltational pull in the future." Heavy might have a different meaning than what you would think.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

Go back to the movie Back to the Future when Micheal J Fox said, "Man this is heavy." And Doc. Brown responeded, "What, is there something wrong with the Earth's gravinaltational pull in the future." Heavy might have a different meaning than what you would think.
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04-22-2006, 01:28 AM

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Go back to the movie Back to the Future when Micheal J Fox said, "Man this is heavy." And Doc. Brown responeded, "What, is there something wrong with the Earth's gravinaltational pull in the future." Heavy might have a different meaning than what you would think.

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Go back to the movie Back to the Future when Micheal J Fox said, "Man this is heavy." And Doc. Brown responeded, "What, is there something wrong with the Earth's gravinaltational pull in the future." Heavy might have a different meaning than what you would think.

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04-22-2006, 01:28 AM

And what about Danny being "busier than ever" on drums? His drumming on the previous two albums was much more prominent. Bottom line: don't believe previews.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

And what about Danny being "busier than ever" on drums? His drumming on the previous two albums was much more prominent. Bottom line: don't believe previews.
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04-22-2006, 01:35 AM

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And what about Danny being "busier than ever" on drums? His drumming on the previous two albums was much more prominent. Bottom line: don't believe previews.
The heavier comment came from one of the band members (Adam?) didn't it? I'll have to go dig through the threads to find the quote again.
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And what about Danny being "busier than ever" on drums? His drumming on the previous two albums was much more prominent. Bottom line: don't believe previews.
The heavier comment came from one of the band members (Adam?) didn't it? I'll have to go dig through the threads to find the quote again.
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04-22-2006, 01:44 AM

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What happened to 10,000 Days being "heavy"? Was that a lie?
Well, they are middle-aged now. It is pretty heavy when you listen to it through a giant ear-horn.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

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What happened to 10,000 Days being "heavy"? Was that a lie?
Well, they are middle-aged now. It is pretty heavy when you listen to it through a giant ear-horn.
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04-22-2006, 01:47 AM

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Well, they are middle-aged now. It is pretty heavy when you listen to it through a giant ear-horn.
It's all becoming clearer...
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Well, they are middle-aged now. It is pretty heavy when you listen to it through a giant ear-horn.
It's all becoming clearer...
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04-22-2006, 01:50 AM

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Well, they are middle-aged now. It is pretty heavy when you listen to it through a giant ear-horn.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

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04-22-2006, 02:01 AM

maybe they meant some of the subjects are heavier...like wings/10,000 days.
but I dont really believe that either. Maybe they just lied...

as far as the drums being busier...what absolute bullshit.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

maybe they meant some of the subjects are heavier...like wings/10,000 days.
but I dont really believe that either. Maybe they just lied...

as far as the drums being busier...what absolute bullshit.
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04-22-2006, 02:03 AM

Hmm, I don't know. Lateralus had it's fair share of heaviness. I think this one was way too hyped in terms of heaviness, not that it matters. It's an awesome album.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

Hmm, I don't know. Lateralus had it's fair share of heaviness. I think this one was way too hyped in terms of heaviness, not that it matters. It's an awesome album.
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04-22-2006, 02:05 AM

nah, the heaviness wouldn't really matter to me. But, if it's being started that its heavier then I don't see it. Like someone else said, I wouldn't listen to lateralus and then to 10000days and say this is heavier...
but it doesn't matter.
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nah, the heaviness wouldn't really matter to me. But, if it's being started that its heavier then I don't see it. Like someone else said, I wouldn't listen to lateralus and then to 10000days and say this is heavier...
but it doesn't matter.
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04-22-2006, 03:34 AM

It's a different kind of heavy. The lyrics are a lot more direct, as is the majority of the music. The album as a whole puts me in mind of Undertow, tonally at least. Adam's guitar-playing is a mix of Undertow and Aenima, and Danny is over-playing less, whilst Justin seems to be hammering the bass a lot more than usual.
Maynard's overall performance is awesome, IMO - dynamic, emotive and melodic as hell.
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

It's a different kind of heavy. The lyrics are a lot more direct, as is the majority of the music. The album as a whole puts me in mind of Undertow, tonally at least. Adam's guitar-playing is a mix of Undertow and Aenima, and Danny is over-playing less, whilst Justin seems to be hammering the bass a lot more than usual.
Maynard's overall performance is awesome, IMO - dynamic, emotive and melodic as hell.
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04-22-2006, 04:07 AM

Maybe they meant the term more literally, like along the lines of "the subject material on this album is far weightier than that of Lateralus"

Let's face it, Lateralus was pretty much all airy-fairy stuff about transcendance and spirituality. Not that that's a bad thing by far; Lateralus is probably my favorite song ever, but the subject material on 10,000 Days is largely Media, war, death and fear...
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

Maybe they meant the term more literally, like along the lines of "the subject material on this album is far weightier than that of Lateralus"

Let's face it, Lateralus was pretty much all airy-fairy stuff about transcendance and spirituality. Not that that's a bad thing by far; Lateralus is probably my favorite song ever, but the subject material on 10,000 Days is largely Media, war, death and fear...
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Heavier does not mean faster.
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Heavier does not mean faster.
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04-22-2006, 04:23 AM

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What happened to 10,000 Days being "heavy"? Was that a lie?
Its quite heavy, the guitar is extremely loud, the drums in songs like Vicarious and Jambi are very Meshuggah like.most of the other songs sound quite heavy.
In conclusion. Heavy
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

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What happened to 10,000 Days being "heavy"? Was that a lie?
Its quite heavy, the guitar is extremely loud, the drums in songs like Vicarious and Jambi are very Meshuggah like.most of the other songs sound quite heavy.
In conclusion. Heavy
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04-22-2006, 04:48 AM

i dont mind if its heavy or not. but dont think this is in any way heavier than any other of their previous albums. dont see any of the songs here being heavier than the grudge...for example...
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

i dont mind if its heavy or not. but dont think this is in any way heavier than any other of their previous albums. dont see any of the songs here being heavier than the grudge...for example...
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04-22-2006, 05:00 AM

I don't care either way, either. Music doesn't have to be "heavy" to be good. Go listen to Mahler 6, 7 and 9 to hear some awesome music that isn't what most people would consider 'heavy'.

All I care is that the music is good, and that it is.
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I don't care either way, either. Music doesn't have to be "heavy" to be good. Go listen to Mahler 6, 7 and 9 to hear some awesome music that isn't what most people would consider 'heavy'.

All I care is that the music is good, and that it is.
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04-22-2006, 05:07 AM

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Supposed - by who?
People that are mostly radio d.j., conctractors...not hardcore TOOL fans
Or Danny Carey .. MAYBE... just maybe he said the new album was HEAVY in.. I dunno.. an interview PERHAPS....
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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

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Supposed - by who?
People that are mostly radio d.j., conctractors...not hardcore TOOL fans
Or Danny Carey .. MAYBE... just maybe he said the new album was HEAVY in.. I dunno.. an interview PERHAPS....
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04-22-2006, 05:22 AM

You can't take what reviewers say seriously.
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You can't take what reviewers say seriously.
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04-22-2006, 05:43 AM

it's weightier, but not more metal

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Re: Why isn't 10,000 Days as heavy as advertised?

it's weightier, but not more metal

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04-22-2006, 05:44 AM

I think Ticks & Leeches is heavier than anything on this CD.
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I think Ticks & Leeches is heavier than anything on this CD.
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04-22-2006, 05:46 AM

or maybe the packaging weighs 30 pounds....did you ever think of that?
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or maybe the packaging weighs 30 pounds....did you ever think of that?
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