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04-19-2006, 07:34 PM

We've been having the debate for a while now, and I haven't seem a poll yet, so if there is one, just disregard this thread.
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Hoax or Genuine?

We've been having the debate for a while now, and I haven't seem a poll yet, so if there is one, just disregard this thread.
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04-19-2006, 07:43 PM

Haven't heard it yet but I am sure it is the real deal.
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Re: Hoax or Genuine?

Haven't heard it yet but I am sure it is the real deal.
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04-19-2006, 07:48 PM

So far the only thing that makes me think it's real is Right in Two.
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So far the only thing that makes me think it's real is Right in Two.
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04-19-2006, 08:38 PM

Its too close to the release date to change the album to be released based on promotional purposes. The band could change the name and track titles, but this is the damn album. Although, I'm begging to enjoy the theories from some people saying that these are left over tracks, b-sides & such from AEnima and Lateralus, because lets face it, you can hear those two albums all over this album.
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Re: Hoax or Genuine?

Its too close to the release date to change the album to be released based on promotional purposes. The band could change the name and track titles, but this is the damn album. Although, I'm begging to enjoy the theories from some people saying that these are left over tracks, b-sides & such from AEnima and Lateralus, because lets face it, you can hear those two albums all over this album.
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04-19-2006, 08:40 PM

voting "no" would only be wishful thinking.

of course it is real.
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Re: Hoax or Genuine?

voting "no" would only be wishful thinking.

of course it is real.
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04-19-2006, 08:48 PM

real songs, but not real sound quality. It's like listening to 32 or 64KBS mp3's, you get a sense of the song but you don't hear everything.
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real songs, but not real sound quality. It's like listening to 32 or 64KBS mp3's, you get a sense of the song but you don't hear everything.
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04-19-2006, 08:53 PM

I hope its fake then i will have 2 new tool cds
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I hope its fake then i will have 2 new tool cds
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04-19-2006, 08:57 PM

For Fucks Sake how many of these people are going to be sitting here in June saying it's still a decoy and the real album will be coming out any day now?
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For Fucks Sake how many of these people are going to be sitting here in June saying it's still a decoy and the real album will be coming out any day now?
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For Fucks Sake how many of these people are going to be sitting here in June saying it's still a decoy and the real album will be coming out any day now?
Reminds me of the battle between Jews & Christians and the coming of the real Messiah.
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For Fucks Sake how many of these people are going to be sitting here in June saying it's still a decoy and the real album will be coming out any day now?
Reminds me of the battle between Jews & Christians and the coming of the real Messiah.
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For Fucks Sake how many of these people are going to be sitting here in June saying it's still a decoy and the real album will be coming out any day now?
That made me laugh. I'm sure there will be plenty of 'em, the poor fools.
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For Fucks Sake how many of these people are going to be sitting here in June saying it's still a decoy and the real album will be coming out any day now?
That made me laugh. I'm sure there will be plenty of 'em, the poor fools.
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1/3

Interesting
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1/3

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Interesting? Maybe. Insane? Definitely.
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its teh hoax0rz
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its teh hoax0rz
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04-19-2006, 10:51 PM

I cannot believe how many threads there are about this brilliant record being a hoax or a decoy. I think it's an inspired work of art. How insulting to the band. Come May 2nd there are going to be a lot of people here eating crow.
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I cannot believe how many threads there are about this brilliant record being a hoax or a decoy. I think it's an inspired work of art. How insulting to the band. Come May 2nd there are going to be a lot of people here eating crow.
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04-19-2006, 11:23 PM

lol
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04-19-2006, 11:27 PM

This will be released on the 2nd. But a realer album will be released later.
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This will be released on the 2nd. But a realer album will be released later.
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04-19-2006, 11:31 PM

Just a question...but can anyone prove that what is being transported to record stores right now is actually this leak?
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Just a question...but can anyone prove that what is being transported to record stores right now is actually this leak?
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04-20-2006, 12:58 AM

I find the whole hoax thing funny. I just can't believe they would go that far, and do the extra work just to prevent the leaking of the real album, since the real album will be on the net too, as soon as it comes out...
But the most striking thing is that there are so many tool fans who don't want to accept this album to be real, like it is not good enough to be a tool album, I think for the first time this is a joke played on the band by their fans, but a joke never meant to be. I mean you put your time, creativity and hard work into making an album you consider very good, and then when it leaks about 40% of the fans think it's so bad it must be a hoax, b-sides, recycled material, a big joke? The fans have slapped the band real hard actualy, since great deal of them obviously can't differentiate what are the good songs, and are there some weak songs coming from the band, like, what have you been listening too all these years? Do you even know good or bad music when you hear it? Is the band you are so big fans any good at all? I just hope the band doesn't take all of these too personal, because people are what they are - obviously very confused in general, and don't know what to think and how to think right.
I haven't heard the album yet, am waiting to hear it when it comes out, the band has put effort to make it and I think I will hear a good rock album, and a good jam. And this is all I'm hoping for from the band, good and sincere jam. Peace.
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I find the whole hoax thing funny. I just can't believe they would go that far, and do the extra work just to prevent the leaking of the real album, since the real album will be on the net too, as soon as it comes out...
But the most striking thing is that there are so many tool fans who don't want to accept this album to be real, like it is not good enough to be a tool album, I think for the first time this is a joke played on the band by their fans, but a joke never meant to be. I mean you put your time, creativity and hard work into making an album you consider very good, and then when it leaks about 40% of the fans think it's so bad it must be a hoax, b-sides, recycled material, a big joke? The fans have slapped the band real hard actualy, since great deal of them obviously can't differentiate what are the good songs, and are there some weak songs coming from the band, like, what have you been listening too all these years? Do you even know good or bad music when you hear it? Is the band you are so big fans any good at all? I just hope the band doesn't take all of these too personal, because people are what they are - obviously very confused in general, and don't know what to think and how to think right.
I haven't heard the album yet, am waiting to hear it when it comes out, the band has put effort to make it and I think I will hear a good rock album, and a good jam. And this is all I'm hoping for from the band, good and sincere jam. Peace.
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I find the whole hoax thing funny. I just can't believe they would go that far, and do the extra work just to prevent the leaking of the real album, since the real album will be on the net too, as soon as it comes out...
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That's because it isn't good enough - plain and simple.
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I mean you put your time, creativity and hard work into making an album you consider very good, and then when it leaks about 40% of the fans think it's so bad it must be a hoax, b-sides, recycled material, a big joke?
'that you consider good'? you're talking from the band's perspective now?
this is the whole point - they obviously didn't put in 'hard work' to produce it.
there are a few nice songs, but it isn't 5 years worth of material.
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The fans have slapped the band real hard actualy, since great deal of them obviously can't differentiate what are the good songs, and are there some weak songs coming from the band, like, what have you been listening too all these years? Do you even know good or bad music when you hear it? Is the band you are so big fans any good at all?
what on earth are you talking about.
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god forbid. but i'm really sure they appreciate your sympathy. please.
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you maybe.
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I haven't heard the album yet,
ah, there we go. that explains it. you have no right give your opinion at ALL.
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am waiting to hear it when it comes out, the band has put effort to make it and I think I will hear a good rock album, and a good jam. And this is all I'm hoping for from the band, good and sincere jam. Peace.
but what was released isn't a good rock album.
it's mediocre at best - and doesn't flow at all.
i'm in no doubt that this is a sham. if you listened to it before spouting your unintelligable mouth, you'd understand.


This is the band that produced Lateralus - i think they would be more insulted if you ACCEPTED this as the real deal. It's not.

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I find the whole hoax thing funny. I just can't believe they would go that far, and do the extra work just to prevent the leaking of the real album, since the real album will be on the net too, as soon as it comes out...
i do.
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That's because it isn't good enough - plain and simple.
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I mean you put your time, creativity and hard work into making an album you consider very good, and then when it leaks about 40% of the fans think it's so bad it must be a hoax, b-sides, recycled material, a big joke?
'that you consider good'? you're talking from the band's perspective now?
this is the whole point - they obviously didn't put in 'hard work' to produce it.
there are a few nice songs, but it isn't 5 years worth of material.
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The fans have slapped the band real hard actualy, since great deal of them obviously can't differentiate what are the good songs, and are there some weak songs coming from the band, like, what have you been listening too all these years? Do you even know good or bad music when you hear it? Is the band you are so big fans any good at all?
what on earth are you talking about.
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god forbid. but i'm really sure they appreciate your sympathy. please.
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you maybe.
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I haven't heard the album yet,
ah, there we go. that explains it. you have no right give your opinion at ALL.
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but what was released isn't a good rock album.
it's mediocre at best - and doesn't flow at all.
i'm in no doubt that this is a sham. if you listened to it before spouting your unintelligable mouth, you'd understand.


This is the band that produced Lateralus - i think they would be more insulted if you ACCEPTED this as the real deal. It's not.

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honestly what is so wrong with the album? if you listen to it and arent intruiged i guess maybe you should go get your green day cds or something
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honestly what is so wrong with the album? if you listen to it and arent intruiged i guess maybe you should go get your green day cds or something
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honestly what is so wrong with the album? if you listen to it and arent intruiged i guess maybe you should go get your green day cds or something
Or, I could simultaneously play all previous tool albums on four separate stereos and pretend I'm listennig to 10000 Days, because it's the same exact thing.
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honestly what is so wrong with the album? if you listen to it and arent intruiged i guess maybe you should go get your green day cds or something
Or, I could simultaneously play all previous tool albums on four separate stereos and pretend I'm listennig to 10000 Days, because it's the same exact thing.
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Or, I could simultaneously play all previous tool albums on four separate stereos and pretend I'm listennig to 10000 Days, because it's the same exact thing.
lol. That's almost a truth.
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honestly what is so wrong with the album? if you listen to it and arent intruiged i guess maybe you should go get your green day cds or something
lyrics, concept (lack of), continuity, production, originality, ... TOOL-ness

oh, i'm *intrigued alright. At the supposed fans who can't see what's up, and what's wrong.


it's hilarious - and i'm quite looking forward to seeing these morons who believe it to be the real deal, proved wrong.

seems Tool is inadvertantly weeding out the tool's.

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honestly what is so wrong with the album? if you listen to it and arent intruiged i guess maybe you should go get your green day cds or something
lyrics, concept (lack of), continuity, production, originality, ... TOOL-ness

oh, i'm *intrigued alright. At the supposed fans who can't see what's up, and what's wrong.


it's hilarious - and i'm quite looking forward to seeing these morons who believe it to be the real deal, proved wrong.

seems Tool is inadvertantly weeding out the tool's.

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04-20-2006, 02:14 AM

inks you pwnt that dude

ONLY KOOL PEOPLE READ THE INFO BELOW:

(but guys keep it down aye..... tool are doing this for a reason remember, think about it, just let them have their fun, gotta wait it out till may 2nd).

edit: remember, the more we go on about the hoax the more people get convinced, and the less of an effect the whole thing will have.
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inks you pwnt that dude

ONLY KOOL PEOPLE READ THE INFO BELOW:

(but guys keep it down aye..... tool are doing this for a reason remember, think about it, just let them have their fun, gotta wait it out till may 2nd).

edit: remember, the more we go on about the hoax the more people get convinced, and the less of an effect the whole thing will have.
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when i see tool live, i am going to wait for a quiet moment between songs, then take my chance to shout out: "GOD DAMN, SHIT THE BED."
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04-20-2006, 04:50 AM

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lyrics, concept (lack of), continuity, production, originality, ... TOOL-ness

oh, i'm *intrigued alright. At the supposed fans who can't see what's up, and what's wrong.


it's hilarious - and i'm quite looking forward to seeing these morons who believe it to be the real deal, proved wrong.

seems Tool is inadvertantly weeding out the tool's.
You, sir, are a douche bag.
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lyrics, concept (lack of), continuity, production, originality, ... TOOL-ness

oh, i'm *intrigued alright. At the supposed fans who can't see what's up, and what's wrong.


it's hilarious - and i'm quite looking forward to seeing these morons who believe it to be the real deal, proved wrong.

seems Tool is inadvertantly weeding out the tool's.
You, sir, are a douche bag.
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04-20-2006, 04:56 AM

of course it is fucking real, what the fuck

they wouldn't put this much effort into creating a fake album, the production is incredible
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of course it is fucking real, what the fuck

they wouldn't put this much effort into creating a fake album, the production is incredible
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You, sir, are a douche bag.
I don't care either way of your opinion, but tired cliche putdowns is awfully lame. Please put more effort into your argument in future.

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Re: Hoax or Genuine?

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You, sir, are a douche bag.
I don't care either way of your opinion, but tired cliche putdowns is awfully lame. Please put more effort into your argument in future.

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You, sir, are a douche bag.
excellent post. sir.
perhaps you would like to provide some substance to go with it?
a logical argument maybe? if nothing else, a better insult would be appreciated. moron ; )
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You, sir, are a douche bag.
excellent post. sir.
perhaps you would like to provide some substance to go with it?
a logical argument maybe? if nothing else, a better insult would be appreciated. moron ; )
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1 Tool album, god yes...
2 Tool albums, even better ;)
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1 Tool album, god yes...
2 Tool albums, even better ;)
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04-20-2006, 04:59 AM

lol intarnets wars.

edit: fuck henny, why'd you have to post between me and what i was referring to??

You're dead.
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lol intarnets wars.

edit: fuck henny, why'd you have to post between me and what i was referring to??

You're dead.
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lol intarnets wars.

I rubb am a retard, agah gah gah

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lol intarnets wars.

I rubb am a retard, agah gah gah

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excellent post. sir.
perhaps you would like to provide some substance to go with it?
a logical argument maybe? if nothing else, a better insult would be appreciated. moron ; )
It got a response out of you. You shouldnt respond to such stupidity. Shame on you.
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excellent post. sir.
perhaps you would like to provide some substance to go with it?
a logical argument maybe? if nothing else, a better insult would be appreciated. moron ; )
It got a response out of you. You shouldnt respond to such stupidity. Shame on you.
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when i see tool live, i am going to wait for a quiet moment between songs, then take my chance to shout out: "GOD DAMN, SHIT THE BED."
I totally laughed too.
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when i see tool live, i am going to wait for a quiet moment between songs, then take my chance to shout out: "GOD DAMN, SHIT THE BED."
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04-20-2006, 05:46 AM

"That's because it isn't good enough - plain and simple." by inks

Maybe you should start using 'I think', 'in my opinion' sentences because then it would be clearer about whose ideas are you talking. Yours? Music critics? Fans in general?



"'that you consider good'? you're talking from the band's perspective now?
this is the whole point - they obviously didn't put in 'hard work' to produce it.
there are a few nice songs, but it isn't 5 years worth of material."

They obviously didn't spend whole 5 years making the album. I'm regarding the possibilty that this material everyone is talking about is the real thing. Regarding their new material, I think it was Danny Carey that said this could be the best work they did. So yes I'm stating what the band said.



"what on earth are you talking about."

I'm talking about fans who can't believe the new songs to be Tool songs just because they maybe don't sound like they want them to sound.



"god forbid. but i'm really sure they appreciate your sympathy. please."

If you find sympathy in my words, that is your interpretation. I generaly don't feel sympathy in any way for a rock band doing their own thing and making millions of dollars in process, even if they experience some fan disaproval of their new stuff.



"you maybe."

Maybe you are right on this one, than again maybe not...I'm saying all of this only for the sake of argument that this album is the real deal. You can imagine this to be the case, that this album is what we get?



"ah, there we go. that explains it. you have no right give your opinion at ALL."

I'm giving opinion on hoax/real album situation, not the actual album or songs. So before you start bitchin' do some thinking, at least on the most basic level.



"but what was released isn't a good rock album.
it's mediocre at best - and doesn't flow at all.
i'm in no doubt that this is a sham. if you listened to it before spouting your unintelligable mouth, you'd understand."

So Tool aren't capable of making mediocre album? They are only human, it can happen. And mediocre to whose taste? I find 'Lateralus' just slightly better than mediocre. Again, i'm not giving opinion on an album I didn't hear, but the hoax/real situation.



"This is the band that produced Lateralus - i think they would be more insulted if you ACCEPTED this as the real deal. It's not."

You're right on this one. This is the band that produced Lateralus. Everything else is left for interpretation. I believe the band has the potential to make songs that are different from 'Lateralus'.

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"That's because it isn't good enough - plain and simple." by inks

Maybe you should start using 'I think', 'in my opinion' sentences because then it would be clearer about whose ideas are you talking. Yours? Music critics? Fans in general?



"'that you consider good'? you're talking from the band's perspective now?
this is the whole point - they obviously didn't put in 'hard work' to produce it.
there are a few nice songs, but it isn't 5 years worth of material."

They obviously didn't spend whole 5 years making the album. I'm regarding the possibilty that this material everyone is talking about is the real thing. Regarding their new material, I think it was Danny Carey that said this could be the best work they did. So yes I'm stating what the band said.



"what on earth are you talking about."

I'm talking about fans who can't believe the new songs to be Tool songs just because they maybe don't sound like they want them to sound.



"god forbid. but i'm really sure they appreciate your sympathy. please."

If you find sympathy in my words, that is your interpretation. I generaly don't feel sympathy in any way for a rock band doing their own thing and making millions of dollars in process, even if they experience some fan disaproval of their new stuff.



"you maybe."

Maybe you are right on this one, than again maybe not...I'm saying all of this only for the sake of argument that this album is the real deal. You can imagine this to be the case, that this album is what we get?



"ah, there we go. that explains it. you have no right give your opinion at ALL."

I'm giving opinion on hoax/real album situation, not the actual album or songs. So before you start bitchin' do some thinking, at least on the most basic level.



"but what was released isn't a good rock album.
it's mediocre at best - and doesn't flow at all.
i'm in no doubt that this is a sham. if you listened to it before spouting your unintelligable mouth, you'd understand."

So Tool aren't capable of making mediocre album? They are only human, it can happen. And mediocre to whose taste? I find 'Lateralus' just slightly better than mediocre. Again, i'm not giving opinion on an album I didn't hear, but the hoax/real situation.



"This is the band that produced Lateralus - i think they would be more insulted if you ACCEPTED this as the real deal. It's not."

You're right on this one. This is the band that produced Lateralus. Everything else is left for interpretation. I believe the band has the potential to make songs that are different from 'Lateralus'.

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It got a response out of you. You shouldnt respond to such stupidity. Shame on you.
i can only imagine you believe this to be a response/reasoning containing some kind of wit, alas..
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It got a response out of you. You shouldnt respond to such stupidity. Shame on you.
i can only imagine you believe this to be a response/reasoning containing some kind of wit, alas..
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