04-13-2006, 06:05 PM
I looked at THIS alex grey image:
and the current 'leaked' artwork out there.
and combined them to make THIS
Obviously i changed the hue a bit to make them match etc but it shows that either someone made some educated fake artwork, or it is infact the real deal.
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Artwork Verification?
I looked at THIS alex grey image:
and the current 'leaked' artwork out there.
and combined them to make THIS
Obviously i changed the hue a bit to make them match etc but it shows that either someone made some educated fake artwork, or it is infact the real deal. |
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04-13-2006, 06:13 PM
i think it looks pretty good
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i think it looks pretty good
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04-13-2006, 06:18 PM
i can verify that picture.
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i can verify that picture.
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04-13-2006, 07:18 PM
wow, nobody's made that connection yet. not at all.
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wow, nobody's made that connection yet. not at all.
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04-13-2006, 07:19 PM
lol
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lol
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Looks pretty awsome! Tool are good at making pretty unique covers, so it wouldnt suprise me if they did something similar to Lateralus, with the whole clear plastic thing and all.
Only thing is that it is a Digipak, apparently. I think it was JB HIFI in Australia that confirmed that they are selling a Digipak, but then again, it has been said that the cover would be unlike anything anyone has ever seen before,so u never know.
Cant fuckin wait either way!
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Looks pretty awsome! Tool are good at making pretty unique covers, so it wouldnt suprise me if they did something similar to Lateralus, with the whole clear plastic thing and all.
Only thing is that it is a Digipak, apparently. I think it was JB HIFI in Australia that confirmed that they are selling a Digipak, but then again, it has been said that the cover would be unlike anything anyone has ever seen before,so u never know.
Cant fuckin wait either way!
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04-13-2006, 07:36 PM
shit dude thats really cool
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shit dude thats really cool
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04-13-2006, 07:37 PM
plus, the maynard image layout with the curtains is also similar.
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plus, the maynard image layout with the curtains is also similar.
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04-13-2006, 07:49 PM
i like that so much im putting it in my myspace
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i like that so much im putting it in my myspace
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04-13-2006, 07:55 PM
I've seen this theory elsewhere on this forum already
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I've seen this theory elsewhere on this forum already
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04-13-2006, 08:44 PM
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yeah well i made a picture so this negates all previous discussion.
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I looked at THIS alex grey image:
and the current 'leaked' artwork out there.
and combined them to make THIS
Obviously i changed the hue a bit to make them match etc but it shows that either someone made some educated fake artwork, or it is infact the real deal. |
Although that does look cool and I commend your efforts, its probably just the result of Alex Grey being a talentless hack who reuses two 'original' ideas for every piece of art he's ever created and hoped no one will notice.
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I looked at THIS alex grey image:
and the current 'leaked' artwork out there.
and combined them to make THIS
Obviously i changed the hue a bit to make them match etc but it shows that either someone made some educated fake artwork, or it is infact the real deal. |
Although that does look cool and I commend your efforts, its probably just the result of Alex Grey being a talentless hack who reuses two 'original' ideas for every piece of art he's ever created and hoped no one will notice. |
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Although that does look cool and I commend your efforts, its probably just the result of Alex Grey being a talentless hack who reuses two 'original' ideas for every piece of art he's ever created and hoped no one will notice.
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are you FUCKING kidding here?
who the fuck are you to tell him what to fucking paint? what the fuck do you think you do that makes you his holy watcher? you've got to be fucking kidding with that comment. you're so god damned ignorant you make everyone else who posts here look like an intellect! that has to be the most egotistic self-important message i've ever seen anyone write! i'm not joking! you're scum.
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Although that does look cool and I commend your efforts, its probably just the result of Alex Grey being a talentless hack who reuses two 'original' ideas for every piece of art he's ever created and hoped no one will notice.
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are you FUCKING kidding here?
who the fuck are you to tell him what to fucking paint? what the fuck do you think you do that makes you his holy watcher? you've got to be fucking kidding with that comment. you're so god damned ignorant you make everyone else who posts here look like an intellect! that has to be the most egotistic self-important message i've ever seen anyone write! i'm not joking! you're scum.
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i wish you guys would just hold hands
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nicely done ;)
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nicely done ;)
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are you FUCKING kidding here?
who the fuck are you to tell him what to fucking paint? what the fuck do you think you do that makes you his holy watcher? you've got to be fucking kidding with that comment. you're so god damned ignorant you make everyone else who posts here look like an intellect! that has to be the most egotistic self-important message i've ever seen anyone write! i'm not joking! you're scum.
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I agree that calling Alex Grey "talentless" is just plain fucked up... but jesus christ you took it wayyyyyyy the fuck overboard. Settle down NOW.
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are you FUCKING kidding here?
who the fuck are you to tell him what to fucking paint? what the fuck do you think you do that makes you his holy watcher? you've got to be fucking kidding with that comment. you're so god damned ignorant you make everyone else who posts here look like an intellect! that has to be the most egotistic self-important message i've ever seen anyone write! i'm not joking! you're scum.
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I agree that calling Alex Grey "talentless" is just plain fucked up... but jesus christ you took it wayyyyyyy the fuck overboard. Settle down NOW. |
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are you FUCKING kidding here?
who the fuck are you to tell him what to fucking paint? what the fuck do you think you do that makes you his holy watcher? you've got to be fucking kidding with that comment. you're so god damned ignorant you make everyone else who posts here look like an intellect! that has to be the most egotistic self-important message i've ever seen anyone write! i'm not joking! you're scum.
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You're blind, retarded, and an accident if you honestly are trying to tell me that you can't see that every single Alex Grey piece follows exactly the same formula.
Grow the fuck up; just because Alex Grey somehow ended up associated with Tool doesn't make him good or creative. Hes so lame and conceited all he manages to do is rip himself off. I don't know why Tool didn't rehire Chet Zar... now theres genius for you.
Don't be fucking stupid. Please. Reading ignorant fanboi-ish bullshit posts like yours honestly disgusts me. Grow a fucking mind of your own for Christ's sake. People like you are the reason shit like Bush ended up getting re-elected; you're too fucking blind to do anything other than what you're told. Tool tells you (indirectly) that Alex Grey is a good artist that deserves respect by hiring him (twice). Take about 2 minutes on his website and explore his 'amazing' array of the same exact picture over and over and over and over, then get back to me on how much of a genius he is.
Oh, and for the record, interlaying the main theme's sillouette within itself and repeated ad. nauseum isn't creative. Its called Photoshop. Hell, I don't even need photoshop to create that 'original' effect; I doodle that in the margin of my notes in school when I'm bored. Talk about your fucking original artistry.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
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are you FUCKING kidding here?
who the fuck are you to tell him what to fucking paint? what the fuck do you think you do that makes you his holy watcher? you've got to be fucking kidding with that comment. you're so god damned ignorant you make everyone else who posts here look like an intellect! that has to be the most egotistic self-important message i've ever seen anyone write! i'm not joking! you're scum.
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You're blind, retarded, and an accident if you honestly are trying to tell me that you can't see that every single Alex Grey piece follows exactly the same formula.
Grow the fuck up; just because Alex Grey somehow ended up associated with Tool doesn't make him good or creative. Hes so lame and conceited all he manages to do is rip himself off. I don't know why Tool didn't rehire Chet Zar... now theres genius for you.
Don't be fucking stupid. Please. Reading ignorant fanboi-ish bullshit posts like yours honestly disgusts me. Grow a fucking mind of your own for Christ's sake. People like you are the reason shit like Bush ended up getting re-elected; you're too fucking blind to do anything other than what you're told. Tool tells you (indirectly) that Alex Grey is a good artist that deserves respect by hiring him (twice). Take about 2 minutes on his website and explore his 'amazing' array of the same exact picture over and over and over and over, then get back to me on how much of a genius he is.
Oh, and for the record, interlaying the main theme's sillouette within itself and repeated ad. nauseum isn't creative. Its called Photoshop. Hell, I don't even need photoshop to create that 'original' effect; I doodle that in the margin of my notes in school when I'm bored. Talk about your fucking original artistry.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
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You're blind, retarded, and an accident if you honestly are trying to tell me that you can't see that every single Alex Grey piece follows exactly the same formula.
Grow the fuck up; just because Alex Grey somehow ended up associated with Tool doesn't make him good or creative. Hes so lame and conceited all he manages to do is rip himself off. I don't know why Tool didn't rehire Chet Zar... now theres genius for you.
Don't be fucking stupid. Please. Reading ignorant fanboi-ish bullshit posts like yours honestly disgusts me. Grow a fucking mind of your own for Christ's sake. People like you are the reason shit like Bush ended up getting re-elected; you're too fucking blind to do anything other than what you're told. Tool tells you (indirectly) that Alex Grey is a good artist that deserves respect by hiring him (twice). Take about 2 minutes on his website and explore his 'amazing' array of the same exact picture over and over and over and over, then get back to me on how much of a genius he is.
Oh, and for the record, interlaying the main theme's sillouette within itself and repeated ad. nauseum isn't creative. Its called Photoshop. Hell, I don't even need photoshop to create that 'original' effect; I doodle that in the margin of my notes in school when I'm bored. Talk about your fucking original artistry.
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Okay, I guess... nevermind? Ocelott199 IS a fucking asshole, and somehow the idea of art COMPLETELY evades him. Alex Grey's artwork OBVIOUSLY required a huge amount of talent. I didn't think anybody in their right mind could ever say that Alex Grey is talentless. Or a sellout. Oh my god, you fucking idiot -- his work all follows the same ideas because HE'S A FUCKING ARTIST. HE HAS A STYLE.
WOW was I wrong ever agreeing with anything you've said, Ocelot. Wow.
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You're blind, retarded, and an accident if you honestly are trying to tell me that you can't see that every single Alex Grey piece follows exactly the same formula.
Grow the fuck up; just because Alex Grey somehow ended up associated with Tool doesn't make him good or creative. Hes so lame and conceited all he manages to do is rip himself off. I don't know why Tool didn't rehire Chet Zar... now theres genius for you.
Don't be fucking stupid. Please. Reading ignorant fanboi-ish bullshit posts like yours honestly disgusts me. Grow a fucking mind of your own for Christ's sake. People like you are the reason shit like Bush ended up getting re-elected; you're too fucking blind to do anything other than what you're told. Tool tells you (indirectly) that Alex Grey is a good artist that deserves respect by hiring him (twice). Take about 2 minutes on his website and explore his 'amazing' array of the same exact picture over and over and over and over, then get back to me on how much of a genius he is.
Oh, and for the record, interlaying the main theme's sillouette within itself and repeated ad. nauseum isn't creative. Its called Photoshop. Hell, I don't even need photoshop to create that 'original' effect; I doodle that in the margin of my notes in school when I'm bored. Talk about your fucking original artistry.
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Okay, I guess... nevermind? Ocelott199 IS a fucking asshole, and somehow the idea of art COMPLETELY evades him. Alex Grey's artwork OBVIOUSLY required a huge amount of talent. I didn't think anybody in their right mind could ever say that Alex Grey is talentless. Or a sellout. Oh my god, you fucking idiot -- his work all follows the same ideas because HE'S A FUCKING ARTIST. HE HAS A STYLE.
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Alex Grey is talented, I won't dispute that. But come on, you have to admit a lot of his stuff is VERY similar. A lot of people couldn't even tell the difference between the new cover and his "InterBeing" painting.
I was really surprised to see that they'd be using him a second time around.
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Alex Grey is talented, I won't dispute that. But come on, you have to admit a lot of his stuff is VERY similar. A lot of people couldn't even tell the difference between the new cover and his "InterBeing" painting.
I was really surprised to see that they'd be using him a second time around.
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Alex Grey is talented, I won't dispute that. But come on, you have to admit a lot of his stuff is VERY similar. A lot of people couldn't even tell the difference between the new cover and his "InterBeing" painting.
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Oh it's definately similar alright. But that's his style.
http://alexgrey.net/a-gallery/wndr.html
... Talentless? Come on Ocelot. At least tell me you don't truly believe he's talentless. Who cares if you don't like his work... but don't embarass yourself.
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Alex Grey is talented, I won't dispute that. But come on, you have to admit a lot of his stuff is VERY similar. A lot of people couldn't even tell the difference between the new cover and his "InterBeing" painting.
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Oh it's definately similar alright. But that's his style.
http://alexgrey.net/a-gallery/wndr.html
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He is certainly not talentless, but he is somewhat overrated. How could you not admit that, considering the way all of these kids hype him up.
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He is certainly not talentless, but he is somewhat overrated. How could you not admit that, considering the way all of these kids hype him up.
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if you combine 2 good pictures, YOU HAVE A GREAT PICTURE! WOW! ... damn, too ocelottish post. don't read this.
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Alex Grey is extremely skilled at capturing on the canvas what it feels like to be totally fucked up on psychotropics, only without that horrible gut-crushing sensation
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Alex Grey is extremely skilled at capturing on the canvas what it feels like to be totally fucked up on psychotropics, only without that horrible gut-crushing sensation
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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because its up to you what's good and bad art
i'm not a very gib grey fan, but that's just retarded, oce
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because its up to you what's good and bad art
i'm not a very gib grey fan, but that's just retarded, oce
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It's not about knowing good art. It's about what I like.
Personally, I like Alex Grey's stuff, but not all of it. I don't really get his Chapel of Sacred Mirrors. Although his work takes a lot of effort and skill to create, making muscle portraits of naked black men isn't really interesting to me. I don't look deeply into art, because I don't really see a point in analyzing it. Even if I did see a point, I wouldn't know where to begin.
I think Alex Grey is overrated. Some of his stuff is amazing, but a lot of it IS the same, unless I fail to see how his stuff is actually different.
I like Cam de Leon and Chet Zar a lot more out of the artists Tool has worked with.
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It's not about knowing good art. It's about what I like.
Personally, I like Alex Grey's stuff, but not all of it. I don't really get his Chapel of Sacred Mirrors. Although his work takes a lot of effort and skill to create, making muscle portraits of naked black men isn't really interesting to me. I don't look deeply into art, because I don't really see a point in analyzing it. Even if I did see a point, I wouldn't know where to begin.
I think Alex Grey is overrated. Some of his stuff is amazing, but a lot of it IS the same, unless I fail to see how his stuff is actually different.
I like Cam de Leon and Chet Zar a lot more out of the artists Tool has worked with.
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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hhahahahahaa.. stupid.
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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04-14-2006, 10:30 AM
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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ocelot take a chill pill, all good artists have a formula. picasso put eyes in different places on people and mixed their shit up, dali always had those weird spider elephant things, thousands of artists just painted like mountains and flowers their whole career
alex greys formula is people doing shit but you can see their insides and its all colorful and trippy, theres nothing wrong with that
i like his art, its nice to look at, thats what its all about
paintings dont have to be super original or deep to look good, just like music doesnt have to be super original or deep to sound good
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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ocelot take a chill pill, all good artists have a formula. picasso put eyes in different places on people and mixed their shit up, dali always had those weird spider elephant things, thousands of artists just painted like mountains and flowers their whole career
alex greys formula is people doing shit but you can see their insides and its all colorful and trippy, theres nothing wrong with that
i like his art, its nice to look at, thats what its all about
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04-14-2006, 10:34 AM
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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And what we should now listen to you? Fuck off and die you piece of fucking shit.
Here's a thought from me to you that I thought of all by myself... you are an idiot and I have no respect for you. Alex Grey has some really great paintings that have touched me deeply, kinda the way Michael Jackson obviously touched you when you went to neverland ranch you sad excuse for a mammal.
Eat my shit.
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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And what we should now listen to you? Fuck off and die you piece of fucking shit.
Here's a thought from me to you that I thought of all by myself... you are an idiot and I have no respect for you. Alex Grey has some really great paintings that have touched me deeply, kinda the way Michael Jackson obviously touched you when you went to neverland ranch you sad excuse for a mammal.
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And what we should now listen to you? Fuck off and die you piece of fucking shit.
Here's a thought from me to you that I thought of all by myself... you are an idiot and I have no respect for you. Alex Grey has some really great paintings that have touched me deeply, kinda the way Michael Jackson obviously touched you when you went to neverland ranch you sad excuse for a mammal.
Eat my shit.
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Woah! Everyone needs to mellow out a bit. This is an opinion forum right? Occelot just displayed an opinion (Albeit a little forcefully...) he has a right to do that, and you have a right to disagree with it. What it doesn't mean is that anybody is wrong. Opinions can neither be right or wrong.
Let Occelot think Alex Grey is pants for gawds sake. However Occelot should not try and press his opinion onto others, he is doing what everyone who is defending Alex Grey is doing, presuming his opinion is the only one thats right. If we all calmed down, took our heads out of our arses and remembered that everyone is entitled to an opinion i think we could move along, and you know, maybe mature a bit?
(The word fuck does not make you mature.)
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And what we should now listen to you? Fuck off and die you piece of fucking shit.
Here's a thought from me to you that I thought of all by myself... you are an idiot and I have no respect for you. Alex Grey has some really great paintings that have touched me deeply, kinda the way Michael Jackson obviously touched you when you went to neverland ranch you sad excuse for a mammal.
Eat my shit.
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Woah! Everyone needs to mellow out a bit. This is an opinion forum right? Occelot just displayed an opinion (Albeit a little forcefully...) he has a right to do that, and you have a right to disagree with it. What it doesn't mean is that anybody is wrong. Opinions can neither be right or wrong.
Let Occelot think Alex Grey is pants for gawds sake. However Occelot should not try and press his opinion onto others, he is doing what everyone who is defending Alex Grey is doing, presuming his opinion is the only one thats right. If we all calmed down, took our heads out of our arses and remembered that everyone is entitled to an opinion i think we could move along, and you know, maybe mature a bit?
(The word fuck does not make you mature.)
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04-14-2006, 10:51 AM
dude that artwork is sick
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dude that artwork is sick
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04-14-2006, 10:52 AM
and yeh cucumbers right, chill and grow up fools
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and yeh cucumbers right, chill and grow up fools
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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Okay who the fuck cares if his work looks the same, it obviously takes talent to create what he has created. Look up the definition of "talent" before you start posting like a fucking retard.
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You people who are defending Alex Grey know shit all about good art. Alex Grey is a hack. Period. All he knows how to do is copy his own idea, which isn't even original in the first place. The only reason any of you know about him is because of Tool, and the only reason any of you are stupid enough to defend his 'art' is because of Tool. Grow some fucking brains.
Get fucked you ignorant elitist turds. Stop letting Tool tell you whats good and bad art.
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Okay who the fuck cares if his work looks the same, it obviously takes talent to create what he has created. Look up the definition of "talent" before you start posting like a fucking retard. |
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04-14-2006, 04:42 PM
i made this thread to spread the love, you guys are fucking crazy.
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i made this thread to spread the love, you guys are fucking crazy.
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And what we should now listen to you? Fuck off and die you piece of fucking shit.
Here's a thought from me to you that I thought of all by myself... you are an idiot and I have no respect for you. Alex Grey has some really great paintings that have touched me deeply, kinda the way Michael Jackson obviously touched you when you went to neverland ranch you sad excuse for a mammal.
Eat my shit.
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This is the lamest post ever. I was going to reply and pwn your n00b ass a little bit, but you seem to have saved me the trouble. Thanks, douche.
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Okay who the fuck cares if his work looks the same, it obviously takes talent to create what he has created. Look up the definition of "talent" before you start posting like a fucking retard.
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The thing is, Alex's 'talent' comes from ripping off:
1. plenty of artists before him who did the same exact thing, and
2. himself.
Artistic talent entails flexibility and creativity with the willingness to expand and create what normal language can't, not to repeat the same formula ad naseum in order to gain prestige and money while developing an ego the size of all of Tool combined.
Its very very sad that you people think Alex Grey is a good artist. Hes a good businessman and a good self-promoter, but an artist he is not.
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And what we should now listen to you? Fuck off and die you piece of fucking shit.
Here's a thought from me to you that I thought of all by myself... you are an idiot and I have no respect for you. Alex Grey has some really great paintings that have touched me deeply, kinda the way Michael Jackson obviously touched you when you went to neverland ranch you sad excuse for a mammal.
Eat my shit.
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This is the lamest post ever. I was going to reply and pwn your n00b ass a little bit, but you seem to have saved me the trouble. Thanks, douche.
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Okay who the fuck cares if his work looks the same, it obviously takes talent to create what he has created. Look up the definition of "talent" before you start posting like a fucking retard.
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The thing is, Alex's 'talent' comes from ripping off:
1. plenty of artists before him who did the same exact thing, and
2. himself.
Artistic talent entails flexibility and creativity with the willingness to expand and create what normal language can't, not to repeat the same formula ad naseum in order to gain prestige and money while developing an ego the size of all of Tool combined.
Its very very sad that you people think Alex Grey is a good artist. Hes a good businessman and a good self-promoter, but an artist he is not. |
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go to heaven . Alex Grey is going to be the best part of this album.
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go to heaven . Alex Grey is going to be the best part of this album.
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04-14-2006, 11:09 PM
Have you ever taken a look at some renaissance art? Notice the similarity between alot of them, regardless of the artist? Alot of artists stick to a specific formula, Dali's paintings could all be categorized as being surrealist while Da Vinci stuck to realism. Diversity in an artists' work is a pretty rare thing, some of the most well known artists only mingled with a couple styles and that's it.
"Artistic talent entails flexibility and creativity with the willingness to expand and create what normal language can't, not to repeat the same formula ad naseum in order to gain prestige and money while developing an ego the size of all of Tool combined."
Everything you said (save for flexibility which as I said above really doesn't matter) with regards to artistic talent in my opinion Alex Grey has. And with regards to his ego I personally couldn't give a shit about it. I've heard Maynard is an asshole in person, and I don't give a fuck because asshole or not, him and his band mates have enhanced my life with their music. And I don't know what you have against someone profiting from their occupation, that's like hating the fact that people do dishes for a living (save the empathy).
He's not an artist? Well, of course! Everyone who ever bought a print or visited his gallery and made him rich must be a Tool fanboy who's only heard of him because of Lateralus and to a lesser degree, Nirvana's In Utero!
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Have you ever taken a look at some renaissance art? Notice the similarity between alot of them, regardless of the artist? Alot of artists stick to a specific formula, Dali's paintings could all be categorized as being surrealist while Da Vinci stuck to realism. Diversity in an artists' work is a pretty rare thing, some of the most well known artists only mingled with a couple styles and that's it.
"Artistic talent entails flexibility and creativity with the willingness to expand and create what normal language can't, not to repeat the same formula ad naseum in order to gain prestige and money while developing an ego the size of all of Tool combined."
Everything you said (save for flexibility which as I said above really doesn't matter) with regards to artistic talent in my opinion Alex Grey has. And with regards to his ego I personally couldn't give a shit about it. I've heard Maynard is an asshole in person, and I don't give a fuck because asshole or not, him and his band mates have enhanced my life with their music. And I don't know what you have against someone profiting from their occupation, that's like hating the fact that people do dishes for a living (save the empathy).
He's not an artist? Well, of course! Everyone who ever bought a print or visited his gallery and made him rich must be a Tool fanboy who's only heard of him because of Lateralus and to a lesser degree, Nirvana's In Utero!
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