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04-11-2006, 12:13 AM

Before posting this I should tell you this is not completely legit, since no one who has the magazine is able to confirm this but I got this from Fourth Eye who got it from Tool Army.

And another thing, if you wanna go in with an open mind you shouldn't read the review (not that it spoils anything, it doesn't say anything we don't already know).

Here it is anyway...


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TOOL
10,000 Days
The expectations built up from the five year absence would be too much for most bands to bear, but as 10,000 Days reminds us, TOOL are not like most bands. From the outset, it is clear that the LA prog-metal pioneers have found another notch on their guitar amps, but the increase in volume and power has not been made at the expense of their usual complexity. Although never a cheery soul at the best of times, Maynard James Keenans lyrical tack has not been this bleak since their earliest days, but bad times and horrible thoughts have again led TOOL to some great music. Another triumph conjured with adversity rather than against it.
8/10
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Old 04-11-2006, 12:13 AM   #1
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First review? Rock Sound (UK)

Before posting this I should tell you this is not completely legit, since no one who has the magazine is able to confirm this but I got this from Fourth Eye who got it from Tool Army.

And another thing, if you wanna go in with an open mind you shouldn't read the review (not that it spoils anything, it doesn't say anything we don't already know).

Here it is anyway...


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TOOL
10,000 Days
The expectations built up from the five year absence would be too much for most bands to bear, but as 10,000 Days reminds us, TOOL are not like most bands. From the outset, it is clear that the LA prog-metal pioneers have found another notch on their guitar amps, but the increase in volume and power has not been made at the expense of their usual complexity. Although never a cheery soul at the best of times, Maynard James Keenans lyrical tack has not been this bleak since their earliest days, but bad times and horrible thoughts have again led TOOL to some great music. Another triumph conjured with adversity rather than against it.
8/10
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04-11-2006, 12:16 AM

Anyone with the name Hardeep Phull, has to be a dick
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Anyone with the name Hardeep Phull, has to be a dick
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04-11-2006, 12:17 AM

8/10????????

Blasphemy.
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8/10????????

Blasphemy.
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04-11-2006, 12:18 AM

I wouldn't worry, Aenima and Lateralus received the same type of scores yet they're amazing
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I wouldn't worry, Aenima and Lateralus received the same type of scores yet they're amazing
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04-11-2006, 12:20 AM

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Conclusion -> Crap Magazine with shitty reviewers.

8/10 what an idiot
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Conclusion -> Crap Magazine with shitty reviewers.

8/10 what an idiot
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04-11-2006, 12:22 AM

I preferred my review. Which one's more convincing?

10,000 Days review by Hellboy
After 5 years of silence, the boys from Tool have finally come good with their latest release 10,000 Days. Right from the opening track Vicarious, with it’s polyrythms and distorted vocals, through to the stunning conclusion in Viginti Tres, this CD will rock your world.

A heavier side of Tool is shown this time around, with Danny and Adam taking notes from their heroes in Meshuggah and The Melvins, especially during the bone crunching Rosetta Stoned.

Recruiting Joe Baressi behind the desk for this effort, 10,000 Days has the usual high production standards, though this time around the guitars rise above the mix, relegating Maynards unique vocal to merely another instrument. Baressi’s influence also shows in Adam’s guitar style, with a whole lot more experimentation, including the Talk Box on the title track.

It’s been a long wait, and a long road, but one well worth travelling.
10/10
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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

I preferred my review. Which one's more convincing?

10,000 Days review by Hellboy
After 5 years of silence, the boys from Tool have finally come good with their latest release 10,000 Days. Right from the opening track Vicarious, with it’s polyrythms and distorted vocals, through to the stunning conclusion in Viginti Tres, this CD will rock your world.

A heavier side of Tool is shown this time around, with Danny and Adam taking notes from their heroes in Meshuggah and The Melvins, especially during the bone crunching Rosetta Stoned.

Recruiting Joe Baressi behind the desk for this effort, 10,000 Days has the usual high production standards, though this time around the guitars rise above the mix, relegating Maynards unique vocal to merely another instrument. Baressi’s influence also shows in Adam’s guitar style, with a whole lot more experimentation, including the Talk Box on the title track.

It’s been a long wait, and a long road, but one well worth travelling.
10/10
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04-11-2006, 12:27 AM

perfect.
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perfect.
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04-11-2006, 12:28 AM

lol
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04-11-2006, 12:30 AM

This better be one of those corner-of-the-page reviews.

Useless.
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This better be one of those corner-of-the-page reviews.

Useless.
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04-11-2006, 12:30 AM

you forgot to say how it is the sequel to lateralus ... he comes the flood
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you forgot to say how it is the sequel to lateralus ... he comes the flood
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04-11-2006, 12:54 AM

Interesting... thanks for the review!

Although some may be 'disappointed' by his 8/10 socre, I can't see anything negative in his review - it's fairly straight-forward and fits with what we have heard so far.

If his score of 8/10 was a mark at uni, it would get a 'Distinction' where I'm from, which isn't too bad for an album etc...

I would like to see, by comparison, what albums the reviewer has given 8/10, 9/10 and 10/10... and also exactly what he thought of Aenima and Lateralus.
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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

Interesting... thanks for the review!

Although some may be 'disappointed' by his 8/10 socre, I can't see anything negative in his review - it's fairly straight-forward and fits with what we have heard so far.

If his score of 8/10 was a mark at uni, it would get a 'Distinction' where I'm from, which isn't too bad for an album etc...

I would like to see, by comparison, what albums the reviewer has given 8/10, 9/10 and 10/10... and also exactly what he thought of Aenima and Lateralus.
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04-11-2006, 01:21 AM

I also think its a great review. 8/10 is pretty high, and bets on this guy isn't a rabid fan like us. Tool are angry again... sweet :)

EDIT : He's probably made this judgement also on a single listen. That makes it all the more impressive.

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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

I also think its a great review. 8/10 is pretty high, and bets on this guy isn't a rabid fan like us. Tool are angry again... sweet :)

EDIT : He's probably made this judgement also on a single listen. That makes it all the more impressive.

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04-11-2006, 01:29 AM

does anyone know what this magazine rated aenima and/or lateralus?
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does anyone know what this magazine rated aenima and/or lateralus?
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04-11-2006, 01:41 AM

The magazine is usually very very good and extremely well written. I'm not bothered by the review score, more by the fact that review tells you very little, if anything about the sound of the album. Rocksound usually dedicates larger reviews to big albums, such as 10,000 Days.

Also not forgetting that Hardeep Phull writes for several other music magazines including NME, so this review might not actually appear in Rock Sound at all.
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The magazine is usually very very good and extremely well written. I'm not bothered by the review score, more by the fact that review tells you very little, if anything about the sound of the album. Rocksound usually dedicates larger reviews to big albums, such as 10,000 Days.

Also not forgetting that Hardeep Phull writes for several other music magazines including NME, so this review might not actually appear in Rock Sound at all.
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04-11-2006, 01:59 AM

Rock Sound is one of the better magazines in the UK, but that's not a very extensive review. I'd wait 2 days and see what happens.
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Rock Sound is one of the better magazines in the UK, but that's not a very extensive review. I'd wait 2 days and see what happens.
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04-11-2006, 02:15 AM

Do reviewers just give a CD 1 or 2 listens and then review?

Tool needs 10-12 listens, then review.

Not that I take much notice of reviews.
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Do reviewers just give a CD 1 or 2 listens and then review?

Tool needs 10-12 listens, then review.

Not that I take much notice of reviews.
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04-11-2006, 02:22 AM

TOOL
10,000 Days
The expectations built up from the five year absence would be too much for most bands to bear, but as 10,000 Days reminds us, TOOL are not like most bands. From the outset, it is clear that the LA prog-metal pioneers have found another notch on their guitar amps, but the increase in volume and power has not been made at the expense of their usual complexity. Although never a cheery soul at the best of times, Maynard James Keenans lyrical tack has not been this bleak since their earliest days, but bad times and horrible thoughts have again led TOOL to some great music. Another triumph conjured with adversity rather than against it.
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this is a great review and probably not from a tool fan, and almost all good music comes from troubled times you guys are the dicks for bagging this review, if you cant see he is praising tool you are not tool fan just someone looking to rag on someone else for knowing more than you. we havent heard the album yet he has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TOOL
10,000 Days
The expectations built up from the five year absence would be too much for most bands to bear, but as 10,000 Days reminds us, TOOL are not like most bands. From the outset, it is clear that the LA prog-metal pioneers have found another notch on their guitar amps, but the increase in volume and power has not been made at the expense of their usual complexity. Although never a cheery soul at the best of times, Maynard James Keenans lyrical tack has not been this bleak since their earliest days, but bad times and horrible thoughts have again led TOOL to some great music. Another triumph conjured with adversity rather than against it.
8/10
Hardeep Phull


this is a great review and probably not from a tool fan, and almost all good music comes from troubled times you guys are the dicks for bagging this review, if you cant see he is praising tool you are not tool fan just someone looking to rag on someone else for knowing more than you. we havent heard the album yet he has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-11-2006, 03:50 AM

using a point system in reviews is pointles. Fuck, reviews are pointless.
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using a point system in reviews is pointles. Fuck, reviews are pointless.
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04-11-2006, 04:04 AM

Pretty short review, doesn't inspire confidence in the writer...

Reviews are useless anyway, it's only 1 persons opinion. And there's only 1 persons opinion that matters and that's your own. I know i'm gonna love it!
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Pretty short review, doesn't inspire confidence in the writer...

Reviews are useless anyway, it's only 1 persons opinion. And there's only 1 persons opinion that matters and that's your own. I know i'm gonna love it!
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04-11-2006, 04:09 AM

It's gotta be bullshit, he's gotta be reviewing it from his one listen at the listening party.

For such an anticipated release, to get aparagraphs or so is bullshit.
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It's gotta be bullshit, he's gotta be reviewing it from his one listen at the listening party.

For such an anticipated release, to get aparagraphs or so is bullshit.
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04-11-2006, 04:58 AM

all reviews we've read are not real...not to mention they dont say shit.

hellboy just posted a best review i've read since andy king's fake review.
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all reviews we've read are not real...not to mention they dont say shit.

hellboy just posted a best review i've read since andy king's fake review.
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04-11-2006, 05:24 AM

Bleak, angry Maynard is back? Sweet.
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Bleak, angry Maynard is back? Sweet.
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04-11-2006, 05:27 AM

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Such insight!
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Such insight!
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04-11-2006, 06:12 AM

Since music is the most subjective medium as far as quality, I don't put any weight on others' opinions. If that were the case, I'd think Coldplay was the best band ever since the media seems to love their stuff.

That being said, the review doesn't even mention specific songs or things about why he feels what he does- so he is indeed a crappy reviewer. =]
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Since music is the most subjective medium as far as quality, I don't put any weight on others' opinions. If that were the case, I'd think Coldplay was the best band ever since the media seems to love their stuff.

That being said, the review doesn't even mention specific songs or things about why he feels what he does- so he is indeed a crappy reviewer. =]
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using a point system in reviews is pointles. Fuck, reviews are pointless.
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04-11-2006, 06:31 AM

LMAO!

I love how you guys say, OMG what a retard, yet NONE of you have heard the album!!!
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LMAO!

I love how you guys say, OMG what a retard, yet NONE of you have heard the album!!!
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04-11-2006, 06:54 AM

Here is my predicted NME review of 10,000 Days:

Angsty math-metallers Tool are back after a 5 year break with their latest offering, 10,000 Days. The album features guitars and drums, and some intricate time signatures but no Pete Doherty, so we're gonna give this album 2/10
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Here is my predicted NME review of 10,000 Days:

Angsty math-metallers Tool are back after a 5 year break with their latest offering, 10,000 Days. The album features guitars and drums, and some intricate time signatures but no Pete Doherty, so we're gonna give this album 2/10
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04-11-2006, 07:13 AM

This guy's an asshole, just like the one who gave Lateralus a 2/10 at an "indie" music site.
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This guy's an asshole, just like the one who gave Lateralus a 2/10 at an "indie" music site.
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This guy's an asshole, just like the one who gave Lateralus a 2/10 at an "indie" music site.
Are you talking about the Pitchfork Media review? Is it just me, or is that review thoroughly incoherent? Part of me wants to say it's a joke.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-rev...ateralus.shtml

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This guy's an asshole, just like the one who gave Lateralus a 2/10 at an "indie" music site.
Are you talking about the Pitchfork Media review? Is it just me, or is that review thoroughly incoherent? Part of me wants to say it's a joke.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-rev...ateralus.shtml

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Here is my predicted NME review of 10,000 Days:

Angsty math-metallers Tool are back after a 5 year break with their latest offering, 10,000 Days. The album features guitars and drums, and some intricate time signatures but no Pete Doherty, so we're gonna give this album 2/10

well played. lol
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Here is my predicted NME review of 10,000 Days:

Angsty math-metallers Tool are back after a 5 year break with their latest offering, 10,000 Days. The album features guitars and drums, and some intricate time signatures but no Pete Doherty, so we're gonna give this album 2/10

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Are you talking about the Pitchfork Media review? Is it just me, or is that review thoroughly incoherent? Part of me wants to say it's a joke.
Amen. I'd go even further than "incoherent" though.

I haven't been to the Pitchfork site since that horrendous clustershit of a review was posted. That site lost all credibility for me after I read that, not that it had much to begin with. I've never wanted to punch a reviewer more. I mean, if someone as a reviewer hates something, give VALID reasons why, not some retarded condescending cunt drivel.
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Are you talking about the Pitchfork Media review? Is it just me, or is that review thoroughly incoherent? Part of me wants to say it's a joke.
Amen. I'd go even further than "incoherent" though.

I haven't been to the Pitchfork site since that horrendous clustershit of a review was posted. That site lost all credibility for me after I read that, not that it had much to begin with. I've never wanted to punch a reviewer more. I mean, if someone as a reviewer hates something, give VALID reasons why, not some retarded condescending cunt drivel.
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Amen. I'd go even further than "incoherent" though.

I haven't been to the Pitchfork site since that horrendous clustershit of a review was posted. That site lost all credibility for me after I read that, not that it had much to begin with. I've never wanted to punch a reviewer more. I mean, if someone as a reviewer hates something, give VALID reasons why, not some retarded condescending cunt drivel.
I could not agree more.
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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

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Amen. I'd go even further than "incoherent" though.

I haven't been to the Pitchfork site since that horrendous clustershit of a review was posted. That site lost all credibility for me after I read that, not that it had much to begin with. I've never wanted to punch a reviewer more. I mean, if someone as a reviewer hates something, give VALID reasons why, not some retarded condescending cunt drivel.
I could not agree more.
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well played. lol
Don't forget 'grey walls of sound' (Aenima review) Fucking Wankers! That magazine reads like a 'Strokes/Arctic Monkeys/Franz F'ing Ferdinand' fanzine. They also referred to Tool fans as 'mental' after someone wrote in to complain about them labling Tool nu-metal

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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

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well played. lol
Don't forget 'grey walls of sound' (Aenima review) Fucking Wankers! That magazine reads like a 'Strokes/Arctic Monkeys/Franz F'ing Ferdinand' fanzine. They also referred to Tool fans as 'mental' after someone wrote in to complain about them labling Tool nu-metal

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04-11-2006, 08:05 AM

That review is terrible it says nothing we don't know already, nothing specific and actually nothing at all. It could have been written without even listening to the album...

The pitchforkmedia review is hilarious, they made a similar review of a NINs the Fragile... in fact the NIN review is even better - makes me laugh thinking of it :)
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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

That review is terrible it says nothing we don't know already, nothing specific and actually nothing at all. It could have been written without even listening to the album...

The pitchforkmedia review is hilarious, they made a similar review of a NINs the Fragile... in fact the NIN review is even better - makes me laugh thinking of it :)
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04-11-2006, 09:08 AM

Rock Sound reviewers are shit usually... I wouldn't got by the rating.
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Rock Sound reviewers are shit usually... I wouldn't got by the rating.
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04-11-2006, 09:17 AM

Everyone can come up with such a review. Maybe it's authentic, maybe not, who cares, it's not like he says something new. And ratings are stupid, taste differs.
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Everyone can come up with such a review. Maybe it's authentic, maybe not, who cares, it's not like he says something new. And ratings are stupid, taste differs.
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04-11-2006, 11:08 AM

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Are you talking about the Pitchfork Media review? Is it just me, or is that review thoroughly incoherent? Part of me wants to say it's a joke.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-rev...ateralus.shtml
It's painful to read. Half of the review is his life story, and he's trying too hard to be witty. It's like reading the most mundane Blair newsletter.
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Re: First review? Rock Sound (UK)

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Are you talking about the Pitchfork Media review? Is it just me, or is that review thoroughly incoherent? Part of me wants to say it's a joke.

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-rev...ateralus.shtml
It's painful to read. Half of the review is his life story, and he's trying too hard to be witty. It's like reading the most mundane Blair newsletter.
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04-11-2006, 11:23 AM

Just wait until the 13th.
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