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12-08-2006, 09:50 PM
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Every album that Tool has released featured some song otherwise changed in the live context. Check my signature for a nearly complete compendium, if you will, of such things.

So what's first on 10,000 Days? Either little tweaks (like Maynard changing the intonation of "head" in The Pot to make a differently toned intro or the "intro" to Vicarious or big tweaks like the Pushit tranformation or the entire new sections in Stinkfist and Schism?

I'm wondering if they'll do an alt version of Jambi...that song is very heavy, some say simple. I'm hoping they could turn it around like they did for Pushit and turn a heavy, long song into a heavy, yet slow, longer song.

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What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

Every album that Tool has released featured some song otherwise changed in the live context. Check my signature for a nearly complete compendium, if you will, of such things.

So what's first on 10,000 Days? Either little tweaks (like Maynard changing the intonation of "head" in The Pot to make a differently toned intro or the "intro" to Vicarious or big tweaks like the Pushit tranformation or the entire new sections in Stinkfist and Schism?

I'm wondering if they'll do an alt version of Jambi...that song is very heavy, some say simple. I'm hoping they could turn it around like they did for Pushit and turn a heavy, long song into a heavy, yet slow, longer song.

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I think it would be very interesting if they changed up 10k days. We all know maynards emotions and feelings change 'nd shite, and have evlolved alot concerning his mum... if they did take another change, i rekon another take on wings would be pretty cool, and it may take on a totaly new form, as pushit did.

But as to whats more likely, id like to see a heavier section pop up in jambi. Go to that mad agressive and powerfull level thats hinted at with the intro, and yet never truely appears...
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Re: What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

I think it would be very interesting if they changed up 10k days. We all know maynards emotions and feelings change 'nd shite, and have evlolved alot concerning his mum... if they did take another change, i rekon another take on wings would be pretty cool, and it may take on a totaly new form, as pushit did.

But as to whats more likely, id like to see a heavier section pop up in jambi. Go to that mad agressive and powerfull level thats hinted at with the intro, and yet never truely appears...
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I'd like to see them throw a jam into "10,000 Days" and "Jambi". Maybe extend both by a few minutes. It could be cool.
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Re: What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

I'd like to see them throw a jam into "10,000 Days" and "Jambi". Maybe extend both by a few minutes. It could be cool.
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A Jambi or Vicarious mix would be cool. I really liked the intros they did live, especially for Vicarious.
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Re: What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

A Jambi or Vicarious mix would be cool. I really liked the intros they did live, especially for Vicarious.
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I think that they should miraculously turn The Pot into The Grudge and just play that instead.
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Re: What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

I think that they should miraculously turn The Pot into The Grudge and just play that instead.
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they should make a merkaba/third eye mix... insane 23 minutes it would be IMO

or just play intension for full length...
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they should make a merkaba/third eye mix... insane 23 minutes it would be IMO

or just play intension for full length...
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Yeah, that's what we need, 10,000 Days to be longer.
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Yeah, that's what we need, 10,000 Days to be longer.
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I noticed they've added the gong to jambi, also I'm 90% sure maynard throws in a "your" instead of "mine" on 10,000 days sometimes.
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I noticed they've added the gong to jambi, also I'm 90% sure maynard throws in a "your" instead of "mine" on 10,000 days sometimes.
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extended harmonics/chimes section in intension

jambi already had a gong
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extended harmonics/chimes section in intension

jambi already had a gong
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a slow version of vicarious, almost like they did with pushit
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Re: What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

a slow version of vicarious, almost like they did with pushit
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an extended right in two would be awesome.
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an extended right in two would be awesome.
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Yeah an alternate Vicarious would be cool, I think they could do something to change it up.
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Yeah an alternate Vicarious would be cool, I think they could do something to change it up.
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Insanekat, your comment made me realize that they should do an alt Rosetta Stoned. I love this song but it has too much repetition and a few useless parts. It would be sweet if they changed it somehow, cut the fluff but kept the message.
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Re: What will the first "alt version" of this album be?

Insanekat, your comment made me realize that they should do an alt Rosetta Stoned. I love this song but it has too much repetition and a few useless parts. It would be sweet if they changed it somehow, cut the fluff but kept the message.
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Insanekat, your comment made me realize that they should do an alt Rosetta Stoned. I love this song but it has too much repetition and a few useless parts. It would be sweet if they changed it somehow, cut the fluff but kept the message.
I agree actually, I didn't think of it before either but you're right. They could change it and keep the message and I think it'd be good.
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Insanekat, your comment made me realize that they should do an alt Rosetta Stoned. I love this song but it has too much repetition and a few useless parts. It would be sweet if they changed it somehow, cut the fluff but kept the message.
I agree actually, I didn't think of it before either but you're right. They could change it and keep the message and I think it'd be good.
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i remember catching a live vicarious on youtube where they plugged in a few riffs from the third eye intro.. it was really cool..
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i remember catching a live vicarious on youtube where they plugged in a few riffs from the third eye intro.. it was really cool..
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The nice thing about having all of your songs written in D-minor is you can fuse them together without many problems at all.
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The nice thing about having all of your songs written in D-minor is you can fuse them together without many problems at all.
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a slow version of vicarious, almost like they did with pushit
thats degrading to pushit
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I think Vicarious will be the track change up if any.Maybe Rosetta Stoned.
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I think Vicarious will be the track change up if any.Maybe Rosetta Stoned.
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I think it would be very interesting if they changed up 10k days. We all know maynards emotions and feelings change 'nd shite, and have evlolved alot concerning his mum... if they did take another change, i rekon another take on wings would be pretty cool, and it may take on a totaly new form, as pushit did.

But as to whats more likely, id like to see a heavier section pop up in jambi. Go to that mad agressive and powerfull level thats hinted at with the intro, and yet never truely appears...
I could write you that! lol! They'd take the intro and play it over the existing heavy section. Then Adam would play it higher and Danny would add the toms. It would all build up and Adam would play a quieter version of the solo unaccompanied. From that they would just fire into the last part of that heavy instrumental section and move justins bass melody for the outro.

I might actually record that shiz.
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I think it would be very interesting if they changed up 10k days. We all know maynards emotions and feelings change 'nd shite, and have evlolved alot concerning his mum... if they did take another change, i rekon another take on wings would be pretty cool, and it may take on a totaly new form, as pushit did.

But as to whats more likely, id like to see a heavier section pop up in jambi. Go to that mad agressive and powerfull level thats hinted at with the intro, and yet never truely appears...
I could write you that! lol! They'd take the intro and play it over the existing heavy section. Then Adam would play it higher and Danny would add the toms. It would all build up and Adam would play a quieter version of the solo unaccompanied. From that they would just fire into the last part of that heavy instrumental section and move justins bass melody for the outro.

I might actually record that shiz.
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