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Old 10-31-2012, 10:47 PM   #601
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Re: aenima- problem 8

theres something about 46&2, i was wondering what the connection , i thought pushit is problem 8 but blair mentined the track is in the 6 minute range and pushit is 9.55, now like ive mentioned the tracks that line up on track 9 are related to pushit , and also intension has parts of jimmy and 46&2v in it

and that intermissin and jimmy are nuit and hadit in union on pushit this made me look at the duratin of jimmy and useful idiot it if you add 0.39 to jimmy you get 6.03 and 46&2 is 6.02, now this seems to be indicating a telation ship of some sort.
the could be and used viginti tres , which is the half of 46.

ive also mentioned tat the i ching is used and 46&2 is related to the 64 hexagrams( the book of change) now if you look at hexagram 23 its meaning is split apart , could this have something to do with the half of 46

now if you play 23 and 46 &2 together it seems to work and it is in the 6minute range could this be problem 8?
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Re: aenima- problem 8

also 46+23=69
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Re: aenima- problem 8

the 46th hexagram in the iching means pushing upwards
http://www.psychic-revelation.com/re...exagram46.html
so theres definitly a connection
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so now the question is wha are you supposed to do with the tracks, are 46&2+viginti tres supposed to be fused with pushit in some way?
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Re: aenima- problem 8

and also this raises the blood thing again
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hexagram 46 is composed of trigrams earth and wind aenima is the assiah the element earth and the 2nd he` of the tetragrammaton, and ions is wind, well actually viginti tres alsi has wind but the start sounds more like fire and the last part electricity or plasma of some sort , not blood plasma
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now im not sure about this but the iching is supoosed to be based on synchronicirty or a method of explaining it in anyway
http://www.iging.com/intro/foreword.htm

, which brings us back to te 23 phenomenon
http://www.forteantimes.com/features...henomenon.html
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so i wonder whats the signinficance of this, this could lead to the exlanation of why or how the tarot also contain all possible archetypes of ideas or possiblities in the univerese.
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notice the cauldron(muddywaters) in the iching strange , alsothe 23rd pair of chromosomes contains te genetic information of which sex the being is goingto be, so could this have something to do wit the anima animus thing?
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Well what jumped from junk dna is "Rosetta Stoned" the languagething, and the downfall of generations in high tech nations, states.. There's something from with the envivorment states have build.. And yet Jung's synchronities are one area of interests of mine.
funny you mention rosetta stoned, theres a part on 46&2 (reversed)that sounds like the verse part of rosetta stoned.

if you look at the way synchronicity works it seems exactly the same as the neither neither concept of austin osmon spare , i kind of mind fuck

aparently if you want to make something materialize your not supposed to think about it, in other words making a conscious desire reality is difficult but making an unconsciouss esire reality is easy.
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Cauldron, sacrifice to god. I've discussed a little about the 46&2, from few points. The other that my friend saw in it was the shadow as Jungian, but I grasped into it as The Secret Study explains, that, the shadow was a from of man before the man ascended into flesh.. and so on, so what we started to laugh about 46&2 was that it kinda says that there's alot of foolish people, underlining the spiritual, meditators and such who try to achieve a higher self through just being idle.
What I've witnessed in (live) videotaped material of TOOL-shows is that Maynard had played funny roles over the years, and in Parabola, he is.. he seems to push shit out of his asshole, bending his knees and stuff.. hilarious, and I've laugh about the idea that the first gift, humans give to god is shit.. heh
was thinking about something smialar, if yiu look at the oversoul picturew of 10k days you see that tunnel thing but it looks alot like a rectum or vulva wich connects perfectly with the skull and fetus in the variation of the over soul picture.
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CARL JUNG - Preface to I CHING
Keeping to our hypothesis, we must conclude that the I
Ching is here testifying concerning itself.
When any of the lines of a given hexagram have the
value of six or nine, it means that they are specially
emphasized and hence important in the interpretation.5 In
my hexagram the "spiritual agencies" have given the
emphasis of a nine to the lines in the second and in the third
place. The text says:

Nine in the second place means:
There is food in the ting.
My comrades are envious,
But they cannot harm me.
Good fortune.

Nine in the third place means:
The handle of the ting is altered.
One is impeded in his way of life.
The fat of the pheasant is not eaten.
Once rain falls, remorse is spent.
Good fortune comes in the end.
the 9-6 is also used in aenema`s duration 6:39
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Re: aenima- problem 8

austin osmon spare also desighned his own deck of tarot that are based on his alphabet of desire
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the duration of aenima is 77:23 which proves that there is a link with viginti tres, also 23 is associated with sirius, so you have aenima with 23 lateralus with god reversed 10 k days with the inundation of the rivers on wings and the tarot cards 4,5,9,12,16,17 all having symbolism of sirius
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Frater H. You have said that you figured out the puzzle. and last night I had been looking over all of the information you have provided as well as everyone else on this thread. i came to find that since each album is representative of YHVH or the four qabalistic worlds. so in essence, each album should be brought down to 11 songs, while giving the new album (-)ions and third eye. Lateralus if you combine the songs DRT as one because that was how they were inteneded to be when written by the band, you see that at the beginning of the grudge it is abou ascension and 10000 is about decension. If you put the songs in the right postions upon the tree of life, you find that the albums should indeed be a continuous flow from one to the other, making a mega album of sorts which makes up the 4 worlds. but aenima is the tricky one to sort out cuz indeed it represents earth, and we"e got to sift through the bull shit so to speak that this planet and this world has for us. So each album should be made up of 11 songs each, but its about figuring out how.. am I close?
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where`s neurok?
dont know peoples posts just seem to dissapear over night
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Frater H. You have said that you figured out the puzzle. and last night I had been looking over all of the information you have provided as well as everyone else on this thread. i came to find that since each album is representative of YHVH or the four qabalistic worlds. so in essence, each album should be brought down to 11 songs, while giving the new album (-)ions and third eye. Lateralus if you combine the songs DRT as one because that was how they were inteneded to be when written by the band, you see that at the beginning of the grudge it is abou ascension and 10000 is about decension. If you put the songs in the right postions upon the tree of life, you find that the albums should indeed be a continuous flow from one to the other, making a mega album of sorts which makes up the 4 worlds. but aenima is the tricky one to sort out cuz indeed it represents earth, and we"e got to sift through the bull shit so to speak that this planet and this world has for us. So each album should be made up of 11 songs each, but its about figuring out how.. am I close?
theres alot of shit going on , every time i look at the stuff i see something else .
earlier we have been taliking about reducing it to 11, 9 and even 8(maybe) so maybe its possible so it could be possible but i gues that the albums with 13 tracks are the ones that have the triple negative veil at the end , and the other 2 would be without them(obviously)
but this has been mentioned.

what im wondering aboutr is (if possible) how does the iching hexagrams fit onto the tracks
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theres also the possibility of runes and geomancy but im not familiar with it
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Exactly every time I study the albums and songs, I seem to find connections to different subjects and associations everywhere. the further we go down the rabbit hole, the more we figure out we don't know. There is much more going on then whats on the surface
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Frater H. You have said that you figured out the puzzle. and last night I had been looking over all of the information you have provided as well as everyone else on this thread. i came to find that since each album is representative of YHVH or the four qabalistic worlds. so in essence, each album should be brought down to 11 songs, while giving the new album (-)ions and third eye. Lateralus if you combine the songs DRT as one because that was how they were inteneded to be when written by the band, you see that at the beginning of the grudge it is abou ascension and 10000 is about decension. If you put the songs in the right postions upon the tree of life, you find that the albums should indeed be a continuous flow from one to the other, making a mega album of sorts which makes up the 4 worlds. but aenima is the tricky one to sort out cuz indeed it represents earth, and we"e got to sift through the bull shit so to speak that this planet and this world has for us. So each album should be made up of 11 songs each, but its about figuring out how.. am I close?
i agree about the albums leadinhg in to each other but to me it seems more like aenema and grudge have someting to do with water , faaip de oiaad andvicarious has something to do with death
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I can agree with that indeed. then the ending of which the album 10,000 days deals with Resurrection and being born again. Which vigniti tres would seem to be leading into the next album and thus making the next album the culmination of all the tedious and laborious work that is the purpose of life, being reborn. cut it all right in two, and then the two become one and a new.
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true, but maybe its leading into sirius, seeing that the cards attributed to the album all havre sirian symbology.
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about the rebirth thing , the skull with thew fetus is definitly inspired by the last part of a space odessey by kubrik
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but anyway i was thinking about the albums that are representstions of the 4 plains and thought that maybe the next albums lyrics would be more abstrsct or archetypal than the others before , not that others werent.
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I'm sure if it truly is in line with the 4 worlds, and we are correct, then the next album will more then likely have to deal with the abstract/archetypal fire of pure being. the puzzle will take shape once they are finished and let the world see the next album.
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But i must figure out, if we solve the puzzle, then what? whats next?
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Come back frater and neurok. Keep digginh
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Opiate/Undertow/Aenima=32 songs; Represents Elements Earth and Water

Lateralus/10000 Days= 24 songs; Represents Elements Air and Fire

New Album= 16 songs; (Double Album; 8 songs each); Represents Spirit. This is the intended purpose of Tools records.
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tool is considered math/-based, s'let's dig the math!
Opiate (7) + Undertow (10) + Aenima (15) = 32 (skillz)
Salival (0) + Lateralus (13) + 10,000 Days (11) = 24
yep! checks out! (what of '56', what does '56' indicate?)

but since you're including an ep's 'hidden' track... how 'bout:
Opiate (6/7) + Undertow (9/10) + Aenima (15) = 30/32
Salival (8/9) + Lateralus (13/14) + 10,000 Days (11) = 32/34
i.e. 4 'hidden' tracks + 62 separately listed tracks = 66 total*?
oh shit! what if we're meant to somehow 'move' the 'ampersand'?!
like, maybe 46&2 is supposed to read (or 'transmutate') to 4&62!
indicating tool's GOLD! the seventh album! the seventh metal -_-

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of course, that's without: omitting 'seque' tracks
or tracks that weren't original songs (i.e. covers),
or the combing of 'parts' into 'whole compositions',
or including collaboration tracks (melvins, ratm...)
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what do you make of TOOL's apparent fondness of the number '23'?
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op! my fault. lateralus didn't hide shit!
'watch the temple topple over' amirite?
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what do you make of TOOL's apparent fondness of the number '23'?
Discordianism? Operation Mindfuck? It is an important number for Eris but has quite a decent history of superstition associated with it (like the number 13)
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true.

23 also refers to sirius, you're from there. skidoo.
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