Well, that's more a link to Bill Hicks than Tool. But, then... considering Tool used it, too... ya got me. Fuck.

It's kind of... well, it's pukey. I don't know how else to describe it.

But! I've moved since then - I'm now in the Vatican, snorting cocaine and reading their excellent porno library. (Which is, of course, just an urban legend.)

Hook a brotha up

I'll get right on it.

Probably mostly male child porn I'd expect?

And isn't the term speled "fanboi"? I always prefered that spelling of it, especially when referring to myself as a "Tool Fanboi". It's just so warm and cuddly, you know. It's cute like a pink hello kitty handbag (incidentally this would be a good item to carry puke around in).

Well at least you are honest.

And yeah McRoggles, I know you are an "Unreasonably Reasonable" "Tool Fanboi" - like me, I just don't have the extra cute title to express myself with. edit: I know what goes on inside that twisted mind of yours (that's a compliment), not that I ever even really wanted to. I'm just a compulsive reader and writer (not that I need to justify myself, but there are worse compulsions, like those guys in the Vatican Schema is talking about). =)

I've been reading this site since pretty much its inception, and probably have read half your posts, and half the contributions that you've made to the bin (there wasn't really a choice at the time, I at least had to skim through some of them). I just was a lurker for a whole hell of a long time, and as you can tell by the length of my usual posts, I'm not going to hit over 1k posts any time soon... but I rather enjoy it that way.

I have to say this site can be hella entertaining, and a halfway decent way to pass time, if used properly. Feels like I am in good company, at least some of the time.

Do you get extra demerrits for being an "OGT Fanboi"? ;)

I'm going to make a very long post about "E.T., ufo's, etc." in the philosophy forum pretty soon. It shall consist of my longest post ever. Maybe I will even throw in the Voynich manuscript for shits and giggles (you guys seen that thing?)... Must have been made by Sumerians on ergot or something. I will refer you guys over to it when I'm done, for your entertainment, if anyone's interested. Probably be later today or tomorrow morning... hell I forget for some of you guys it's already tomorrow morning. I will try hard to keep it more entertaining and easier to read than Blair's newsletters, I promise.

Indeed there is, indeed there is... makes me feel all warm and cuddly inside.

edit: I was thinking of getting my license plate personalized with JAMBI, what do you guys think haha?... maybe I should just go with FANBOI

And oh yeah, don't forget: TOOL To Start Writing New Album 'Right Away' - keep on topic fellas! To keep on topic, I will mention that I am interested in what your guys' theories are on what the new album will be about. Not that it matters much, but when 10k days came out, after the tracklist was announced - I called what Wings for Marie/10k days would be about, before anyone else here (more Fanboi points). You guys can search for the post if it's still around, probably in the prerelease archive. Seriously not trying to be like "look at me, I told you so!" or "I called it first!". But I do have self proclaimedly exceptional intuition.

So sticking with the theory that the end songs on the albums serve to at least tenuously segue towards the next album general concept, McRoggles thinks it will be more material about duality, cutting it Right in Two, etc.. Maybe it will be about more dimensions than just two or three... that's about all I am good for at the moment. (was up all night recording in Protools)

They really should have made the Vicarious video in Stereoscopic, and/or 3d... would have been so innovative (Stereoscopic at least) and sick.

Didn't notice this one. Probably should have answered it first before I wrote out two more thesis' of lame jokes and other inconsistent crap. Guess I should at least answer the question.

Alright, like I said, I am no huge fan of Metallica (though I would rather listen to them than say Britney Spears or Jessica Simpson).

I do alot of reading, and pick up the little details. Not that I even desire to, it just comes with the territory (again, not that I need to justify myself, but I can talk about science, art, literature, history, and a whole lot of other things aside from Tool, as most of us can here I expect). So anyway, yes there is a quote from Maynard somewhere (no way in hell I am going to go dig it up, you can do that yourself if you're that intersted in it), somewhere along the lines of, "we wanted to craft an album to be something like Metallica's Black Album" (I am aware of the fact that to hard core Metallica fans the Black Album is by far not the cream of the crop, but analytically is relatively well crafted and took them a very long time to write and record - years I believe). So Maynard did say that in reference to Aenema, or maybe even Lateralus - I've forgotten, and don't really care that much. But he is apparently a fan.

So just for curiosity's sake, what I said in reference to it now having come in full circle and we may begin to see Tool's influence on Metallica with their (Metallica's new album), has to do with the fact that 1. Kirk Hammet came out on stage and played Sober (and maybe Schism, I think)with Tool at one of the festivals in Europe (I forget which one, some of you guys probably know - it is an interesting bootleg to have) - he then got on his knees and praised the stage to Tool saying, "We're not worthy!", and was pretty much jokingly (but maybe even seriously to some degree) kissing Tool's ass. 2. Rick Rubin is producing their (Metallica's) new album, and he is a shit producer, but I believe his formula is mostly to "go for the bucks", and right now in the music industry (at least in "rock"), as far as the bucks are concerned Tool are where they are at. I would not be surprised at all if Rick Rubin tries to go for Tool's formula as far as combining more art and music, psuedo prog (at least more complexity in their songs - length, more and different time sigs., etc. - there are supposedly some 10 minute long or so songs on it), while keeping it very melodic. And it says in the Wikipedia article about Metallica's forthcoming album, that it has an "Eastern flavor" - I think they may be trying to emulate some aspects of Lateralus (just my theory). Not that this would be a bad thing, but I find all those things quite coencidental... if you are bored and want a decent read go read the Wikipedia, it is at least somewhat well written from what I remember.

You asked...

That is you in the pic right?? =P (jk)

guessing it is your girlfriend or something, I missed those posts (I'm sure there were a thousand or so regarding your avatar) haha...

Yeah I noticed that a while ago about your title (see them here and there the mods have obviously handed out brands)... I just remembering you getting into alot of arguments and flaming alot, but being persistent and making good points here and there. So it fits. For a long time, you were in pretty much every thread like every other post haha... and then I remember the cat avatar click and that fun phase... that was like when 10kd came out.

I'm not sure, but I don't really see how Faaip De Oaid had anything to do with 10,000 Days. Anyhow, all I know is I heard on here somewhere that Danny was saving samples from a rainforest for his mandala pads and all I can think of is fucking awesome, to give it a tribal surreal, animalistic twist to it. (if that's the case of course)

edit: although, I could be way wrong considering Maynard not having quite the screaming voice he used to have, it may be toned down...who knows <shrug>

I think he's refering to the point that Faaip relates to 10k in some sort of extra-terrestial way (like Rosetta Stoned).

I don't really support this theory, though

Good post, good info.

BUT Rick Rubin is a pretty damn good producer. I don't think he has a "money" mentality..it's just that many of the artist that pick him to producer their record have fortune in their sights. He's the guy that makes them the big bucks he doesn't do it purposely that's just how he works. Bob Rock on the other hand was just an idiot.

I know Metallica has had some stumbles in their albums lately, but I'm actualy pretty curious to hear how Rick might change it up. Trust when I tell you that Rick Ruben is no gold digging producer...the guy can flat out create something out of nothing. LITERALLY



why the hell am i talking about rick rubin on here? i'm fucking tired.

Neither do I

Ricky's a pretty top-shelf producer - he can make most things sound good, if a little dry an' crunchy - cf. the RHCP albums he produced - it's like listening to a hot knife tone-arm course across a cracker covered in sand and spraying out from industrial-strength dessicators for speakers. At least, on CD.

That's not a comment about the music, mind. Personally, I won't say they're gods, but they're better than some of the shit out there - 'cept maybe Anthony Kiedis. A better vocalist could be picked up easily. And considering how fucking GOOFY some of their lyrics are (Come on - "You're tryin' to be a lady, but you're walkin' like a sauerkraut"? What the fuck are these guys on?)

Suffice to say, though - Rick ain't no half-ass as a producer, but I don't want him on Tool. I want Davey back. Davey, or maybe Robert Fripp, or someone like that.

I agree and can stand behind that.

I hope it's more like Lateralus. Yea, I'm bias as far as the albums go.

It should be a good one without a doubt.

I wouldn't mind a more Lateralus-y sound than 10KD had. Hence my hopes of Davey coming back onto production.

duh...rosetta stoned?

what I'd like to see is an acoustic tool album, just for the shits and giggles. although, it'd never happen.

LOL ok LOL
whats to get??

ah cmon I could definitely see maynard doing a solo acoustic tour with his good buddy aaron lewis!

They can do Limp Bizkit covers! - my first request will be whole album from start to finish "Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavored Water"....

Has been a while, and forgotten seeing his name in the credits of Blood Sugar Sex Magik (that is, of course, my favorite RHCP album). I will have to recant some of my statement about him. But I will say, alot of what I have heard lately from him (Mezmerize, Hypnotize, and Stadium Arcadium) sounded very dry, sterile, and formulaic to me. The former are decent albums, but I much preferred their (SOTD) older sound (which I see he is responsible for as well). I somehow got the impression from this that his newer techniques just weren't "bringing out the magic" that I'm used to from these bands. Actually pretty stupid, but think I was getting him mixed up with someone else...

McRoggles, now all the pieces fit. I like your new avatar, congrats and might I say you are a lucky lad, indeed. And that was quite a witty quip you had about the flames, although I've forgoten exactly how it went as of this moment.

As far as the theory on last song/album segues goes, it does work well for Undertow to Aenema and Aenema to Lateralus - I see what you guys are saying about it sort of breaking down with Faaip de Oiad, but I recall when they were recording 10kd they (Blair) were talking a whole lot about aliens (maybe they initially intended to use more of that theme), and "the Daedelus piece", which I believe to be Rosetta Stoned (you guys know the topic). And another theory is that D/R/T is a Triptic (and maybe the segue). In fine art painting, a triptic is a 3 piece painting done in 3 parts but joined together in a 3 part in 1 frame (done alot during the gothic period, and usually telling a coherent story of a religious nature - I'm sure, again, some of you know this). A "diptic" (no jokes =), is of course a two part painting accomplishing the same thing, which, with this theory, you can start to see the influence that fine art has had on Tool - they have loads of diptics: Parabol/Parabola, Wings/10kd, LK/RS, Intension/Right In Two... Anyway, maybe there is something to that, but probably not.

Also Vigente Tres sounds like a spaceship taking off you ask me, all we can do is wait and see.

While we're on that subject, I wrote the thread I was threatening to write. It is so long I had to post it in 4 parts (must be the longest thread in Toolnavy history, no shit). I posted it in interact/philosophy where no flames are allowed! Not that I can't handle the flames, just that it was a serious post that is so long it simply just doesn't have any extra room for flames =). You guys are welcome to check it out if you want, but I warn you it really is 4 posts long (almost had to make it 5 haha). It covers everything from aliens to how we can solve the energy chrisis, to, unfortunately I had to commit a sin and talk politics for a few lines (mostly aliens though). But I tried to keep it interesting, so again if you guys have the time (ALOT of time), and patience for a good long read and enough mind left to have it blown a time or two, here is the link:

http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?p=2398595&posted=1#post2398595

So now we have "surreal tribal", black and green brutality, diptics, triptics, and an alien spaceship taking off... where can we go from there?

I wouldn't mind hearing some Alice 'n' Chains covers.

Yeah I dunno about Aaron Lewis (that was a shoddy joke, of course)... But actually acoustic Tool could have the potential to be sweet as hell. Maybe they should start incorporating some acoustics into their songs, I think there is one on "Maynard's Dick" if I remember correctly - I actually like that song. Yeah maybe an extended version of "Would" - always liked that song too. You probably know, but Maynard has covered a couple of their songs solo, they were on Puscifer.com as of last time I checked (scroll through the player at the top, near the end).

Of course part of Adam's finnesse comes from his prolific and well chosen use of effects (I consider that to be a big part of his skill as a guitarist), so it would probably take away from that aspect of their music.

From that one pic, and the accompanying post on Toolband, looks like Danny might possibly play some bass on the new album (he is supposedly awesome).

Duh, not really. The ONLY thing either one had in common at all was a reference to aliens. You could sit there and tell me there's something in common with pears and apples...true, they're both fruits but they're entirely different fucking things genius.

I really hope that was sarcasm

Oh no! Not fruits again X-(

haha... man do I even have to respond?

Maybe so, but Vigente Tres does sounds like a spaceship taking off =)

Yeah, because the 5 year wait for 10,000 days was worth it? Your logic is flawed. They don't need 5 years to release an album.

Haha

I can agree with this, at least at the end of it. That still doesn't mean that I agree that FDO and VT have any actual connection between the two.

I always thought the "Daedalus piece" was referring to Wings/10k Days.


Daedalus: Athenian architect who built the labyrinth for Minos and made wings for himself and his son Icarus to escape from Crete.

rriiiiiiiight

So sad to see so much "meh" about 10K Days still exists.

I've been a tool fan since Opiate and I think 10K Days is a fantastic album that is NOT full of mediocre moments, as someone put it. I really think it fits well in the overall scheme of progression that tool has taken through their career, having grown up with them through the years.

I am excited to see that a new album is in the works, though.

Lateralus was a magnum opus. Period.

That doesn't mean other of their albums are necessarily "lesser" just because they don't match that greatness. No artist can do that every time out. Doesn't mean their non-legendary stuff sucks. I hate the idea of "ranking" albums anyway. Seems silly and childish to me.

They're all just twists and turns on the journey that is their career.

Sorry, but I just love tool -- the sound, the dynamic of the musicians, their take on the world. I love them the way I love Zeppelin, Zappa and King Crimson -- unconditionally.

That ought to be interesting to hear.

The new album will be another hit I believe. And it'll sound different from 10k days, making the other half of the posters in here more nuttier than a squirrel terd.

Can't wait.

Ahhh man , on a sleepless night I find a lot of fun in this forum :) Just seeing the original post from McRoggles I started thinking "oh no, this is going to stir up some hyperactive trashing" and sorta seems that way. As I do not aggree with McRoggles Its interesting to see that someone does not like 3rd eye that much (I can agree with hooker with a penis though, my least fav. song on the entire album by far). Third eye does not really seem to so much "fit" on the album to me as a whole but man I love the song, the best stuff is on the live version after the 3 min mark! That solo adam has around 5:30 is awesome (considering there are not many guitar solos at all with tool, but yeah, could just be a bunch of noise to some).. I also think the whole 2nd half is one of the best buildups and comedowns on any tool song (came out to watch you play etc etc.. y'all know the drill) ..
, at the same time I really enjoy most prog type drawn out songs that hit the overly long mark from most the bands I listen to

hmmm Maybe I also tend to like this song because I used to thrown down on my floor and rapture my ex-girlfriends collective lustfulness (It must have been collective from somehwere, how can one women be that horny??) all over the place during that song quite a few times (she did not even like tool that much but man she liked to fuck to that song, and god damn was she hot, crazy as some posters (not you McRoggles, I like your posts) on here but the beauty overloaded any rational thought at that age)..

But to each there own! Its good to see something that I would not expect on here as last fav. tool song! You know, 3rd Eye also probably raised Bill Hicks fan base by like 50 percent and gave allot of tool fans an excuse to take acid all the time and assume tool does constantly... RIP Bill, I love that guy..

anyway
some of you assholes need to chill if someone happens to not care for a tool song, to each their own, fuckin chill, I mean, maybe Bill Hicks voice also drives the man crazy , that southern boy swang and insightfully ideas hiding beneath ravaging rants ain't for all of us (oh yeah, the dick jokes also)


Speaking of bill hicks, I was watching some clips on youtube today of him, and this one was pretty classic, he really drills on this women in the audience to the point where I am pretty sure she has to leave, I Think it would be awesome if Maynerd did this from time to time in the middle of a song when meatheads start moshing and hurting people with ninja hardcore kicks to songs like wings and disposition and pretty much any song, I hate that shit..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdKpR9qNtg

oh man, this is great, I love assholes that are respectable.

lol

Guns in Roses?

/fixed....as in Guns and Roses, not Guns in Roses

*sigh*

I knew that...... I was just joking at the "Alice 'n Chains" part