Turn the Tool logo (circa ÆNIMA) upside-down and you get the number 7001. Notice that this does not work with each one of the band's logos...think it has any significance at all?
limo if my memory of crowley is correct which im almost sure it is you assumption about numbers is correct just thought id post an answer from someone else who has some knowledge of "the beast" as blair refers to him as
Originally posted by novus opiate limo if my memory of crowley is correct which im almost sure it is you assumption about numbers is correct just thought id post an answer from someone else who has some knowledge of "the beast" as blair refers to him as
Thanks mate, I was pretty should it was an accurate interpretation.
the old tool shirt, novus opiate seclorum, i was looking at the tool name, and from the view on this shirt you see tool upside down which looks exactly like 7001... thanks for the info...
144 i know is a fibonacci number, but 144000 i'm not so sure
so, where did the idea that a point is indefinable come from?
i remember in grade school, they said that certain things such as points and lines were impossible to define without recursive definitions, but thats not true at all, euclid was able to define all of those things quite accurately..
Originally posted by jpmanson so, where did the idea that a point is indefinable come from?
i remember in grade school, they said that certain things such as points and lines were impossible to define without recursive definitions, but thats not true at all, euclid was able to define all of those things quite accurately..
I dont know about Euclid, but I think the theory goes:
One point is indefineable but if you add another point it becomes a line, a third point makes a triangle etc...
Originally posted by Limo I dont know about Euclid, but I think the theory goes:
One point is indefineable but if you add another point it becomes a line, a third point makes a triangle etc...
At least according to Crowley that is.
Could you explain Euclids theory?
well, here are euclid's definitions:
a point is that which has no part.
a line is a breadthless width
the extremities of a line are points
a straight line is a line which lies evenly with the points on itself
a surface is that which has length and breadth only
the extremities of a surface are lines
there are 17 more definitions, he then goes on to use those definitions to prove a lot of geometry. he was quite possibly the greatest mathematician that ever lived.
Originally posted by mstajduh
yeah, what an asshole for setting up 3 simple laws of motion.. newton's law of cooling, the Newton Method, just to name a few..
I may hate him for Physics soon, too. I've got two semesters of it starting this fall.
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"I have to have" doesn't seem like you really want to do it..perhaps a more positive approach such as "I want to do it, else I wouldn't do it".
If I wanted to do it, I would say so. I don't. I'm not big on math, but I'm willing to endure it to do what I love.
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Btw, Chris, what's your major? what year?
Computer Science. Technically, I'll be a Senior in a few weeks. I've got an Associate's Degree in computer programming from a local community college.
However, UAH gave me the shaft on the transfer, so I'll finish sometime in 2006.
Possibly later if classes are hard to come by. :(
But I have a co-op job, so I'm not completely wasting my time with UAH. :)
If all goes well, and I don't hate school when I finish this degree, I'll persue a MS and/or PhD. They may be non-BS related material, but I haven't decided yet.
invention and exploration are forcing evolution on you.
we should be so lucky.
you could go back to using very simple math, but that leaves you counting beef patties and drawing florecent shapes on pavement. not neccessarily knowing where to put them, but you will be able to draw them.
newton didnt invent gravity, he was just looking at some information which would later be used to create airplanes and structure buildings.
Oh, come on, they were joking. And if Newton didn't invent gravity, then how come people in the old days needed to strap themselves onto their beds when they sleep? Nothing? I didn't think so.
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Originally posted by TIMMY Actually, you're right. He didn't invent gravity. He discovered it.
umm i dont think he discovered it.. i think that one goes to some guy way back that fell off a cliff or something.. newton just found a differential equation that defined the behavior of a falling object.
he would not have been able to do that if he and leibnitz hadnt developed the calculus..
Originally posted by jpmanson umm i dont think he discovered it.. i think that one goes to some guy way back that fell off a cliff or something.. newton just found a differential equation that defined the behavior of a falling object.
Not quite.
We all knew that something was keeping us from floating away (even if only on some sort of subliminal level).
Jehovah's witness's believe that only 144,000 people will survive Judgement day. I think they are the majority of that 144,000 in their own opinions...anyway, it could fit in with the whole "some say we'll see armageddon soon" theme of aenima.
I dont know about Euclid, but I think the theory goes:
One point is indefineable but if you add another point it becomes a line, a third point makes a triangle etc...
At least according to Crowley that is.
Could you explain Euclids theory?
I just wanted to clarify a minor detail here...a point added to another point is not a line, but a line segment...a line is an infinte number of points that goes on forever...this quote makes me think of dimensions of objects, too...is it true that if u take a shape and square its points...you get a higher degree? or am i incorrect? as in...a circle becoming a sphere??? any ideas?
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and Mendeleev and Arostotle, DaVinci,that guy who came up with chaos mathematics, Crowley was no better or worse...just unique, in that he looked at numbers in more of a...almost phrenological point of view rather than physics point of view...
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1 point is undefiable becuz theres nothing else 2 compare it 1 but if u hav 2 points u can define them by comparing them 2 each other....and newton did INVENT gravity becuz gravity is just an attempt 2 describe a phenoma wich is still a mystery...in other words gravity isa theory....we dont actualy kno if the earth is pulling us or if sumthing is pushing us towards earth
In the Bible, Revelations makes reference to 144,000 saints
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand [144,000] of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
1 point is undefiable becuz theres nothing else 2 compare it 1 but if u hav 2 points u can define them by comparing them 2 each other....and newton did INVENT gravity becuz gravity is just an attempt 2 describe a phenoma wich is still a mystery...in other words gravity isa theory....we dont actualy kno if the earth is pulling us or if sumthing is pushing us towards earth
Umm, what are you, 11? Please go back to elementary school. Gravity is not a theory, it's a law, hence, "The Law of Gravity." If you think something is pushing us towards the centre of the Earth, I hope you fall off this planet and spin into a black hole.
Jehovah's witness's believe that only 144,000 people will survive Judgement day.
Yes, the exact head count of the tribe of Judah. And it's not "survive judgement day" it's the amount of people that will be allowed into heaven. The rest will be in suspended animation, in Abraham's Bosom.
I really when people use Tool quotes against Tool fans.
I'm not using Tool lyrics against anyone, just throwing a thought out there. There have been plenty of references in Tool songs about overanalyzing. Sorry if it offends, but I don't see the significance of the number 7001 relating to Tool. Do you know why they chose to call the band Tool?
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