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05-01-2006, 11:18 AM
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http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_08.php

Scroll down and look after the photo of the amps, Adams and rams head. There is this:

"• • • - • • - - • - -"

It's the pattern used twice in Jambi at 3:40.

• • • - • • - - • - -• • • - • • - - • - - (break down)

The dots equal one chunk of 3 beats while the dashes equal one chunk of 5 beats.

Anyone else find this amazing?
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Remember the "morse code"?

Check out this newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_08.php

Scroll down and look after the photo of the amps, Adams and rams head. There is this:

"• • • - • • - - • - -"

It's the pattern used twice in Jambi at 3:40.

• • • - • • - - • - -• • • - • • - - • - - (break down)

The dots equal one chunk of 3 beats while the dashes equal one chunk of 5 beats.

Anyone else find this amazing?
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Interesting, not too sure if they connect but its possible.
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Interesting, not too sure if they connect but its possible.
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does anyone know if the morse code is a word/sentence or is it just jibberish?
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Re: Remember the "morse code"?

does anyone know if the morse code is a word/sentence or is it just jibberish?
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does anyone know if the morse code is a word/sentence or is it just jibberish?
three dots is "s".. i'm not sure about the rest.. and since it's all strung together it's hard to tell when one symbol ends and another begins.


my best guess, going from the wikipedia chart of morse code is S N W W


maybe it's like one of those old text adventures where you tell the computer which direction to go with the first letter of the cardinal directions..


maybe.
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does anyone know if the morse code is a word/sentence or is it just jibberish?
three dots is "s".. i'm not sure about the rest.. and since it's all strung together it's hard to tell when one symbol ends and another begins.


my best guess, going from the wikipedia chart of morse code is S N W W


maybe it's like one of those old text adventures where you tell the computer which direction to go with the first letter of the cardinal directions..


maybe.
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thank you bogsnarth...i didnt even think of wikipedia
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thank you bogsnarth...i didnt even think of wikipedia
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three dots is "s".. i'm not sure about the rest.. and since it's all strung together it's hard to tell when one symbol ends and another begins.


my best guess, going from the wikipedia chart of morse code is S N W W


maybe it's like one of those old text adventures where you tell the computer which direction to go with the first letter of the cardinal directions..


maybe.
Going south, then turning around and going North to get you right where you started seems pretty logical to do before you go west west.
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three dots is "s".. i'm not sure about the rest.. and since it's all strung together it's hard to tell when one symbol ends and another begins.


my best guess, going from the wikipedia chart of morse code is S N W W


maybe it's like one of those old text adventures where you tell the computer which direction to go with the first letter of the cardinal directions..


maybe.
Going south, then turning around and going North to get you right where you started seems pretty logical to do before you go west west.
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05-05-2006, 12:56 PM
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Check out this newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_08.php

Scroll down and look after the photo of the amps, Adams and rams head. There is this:

"• • • - • • - - • - -"

It's the pattern used twice in Jambi at 3:40.

• • • - • • - - • - -• • • - • • - - • - - (break down)

The dots equal one chunk of 3 beats while the dashes equal one chunk of 5 beats.

Anyone else find this amazing?
That's definitely it. Nice observation.
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Check out this newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_08.php

Scroll down and look after the photo of the amps, Adams and rams head. There is this:

"• • • - • • - - • - -"

It's the pattern used twice in Jambi at 3:40.

• • • - • • - - • - -• • • - • • - - • - - (break down)

The dots equal one chunk of 3 beats while the dashes equal one chunk of 5 beats.

Anyone else find this amazing?
That's definitely it. Nice observation.
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I don't think that is the end of it though.. it seems like he chose that pattern for the breakdown for a reason. I know Blair rambles, but he wouldn't post anything that random and irrelevant for no reason.
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I don't think that is the end of it though.. it seems like he chose that pattern for the breakdown for a reason. I know Blair rambles, but he wouldn't post anything that random and irrelevant for no reason.
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um,no, you're all kidding right? the beat to jambi? nice try though
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um,no, you're all kidding right? the beat to jambi? nice try though
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MESHUGGAH.. this album makes me wanna jam some in the cd player
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MESHUGGAH.. this album makes me wanna jam some in the cd player
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Going south, then turning around and going North to get you right where you started seems pretty logical to do before you go west west.
reading one of my posts in utter seriousness also appears to be logical.
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Going south, then turning around and going North to get you right where you started seems pretty logical to do before you go west west.
reading one of my posts in utter seriousness also appears to be logical.
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05-08-2006, 11:36 PM
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Funny when I listened to that pattern in Jambi I thought that the sequence had something to it but couldn't associate anything to it.

That's a good observation and no I don't think it's coincidental, the reason the morse code thing ended up in the newsletter is just Blair's way of saying 'Hey I heard Jambi before you zombies' or perhaps it was a way to see if we could figure out what song he was referring to and nothing more...

BTW the guitar/drum pattern starts at 3:40 and ends at 3:55 it appears again later in the song. check it out and stop flaming (although Vessels post was funny).

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Funny when I listened to that pattern in Jambi I thought that the sequence had something to it but couldn't associate anything to it.

That's a good observation and no I don't think it's coincidental, the reason the morse code thing ended up in the newsletter is just Blair's way of saying 'Hey I heard Jambi before you zombies' or perhaps it was a way to see if we could figure out what song he was referring to and nothing more...

BTW the guitar/drum pattern starts at 3:40 and ends at 3:55 it appears again later in the song. check it out and stop flaming (although Vessels post was funny).

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Just reading that newsletter it struck me that 4 lines further down Blair writes that he arrived in the studio kitchen at 7:30PM and Jambi is 7:28 long. I know it's stupid but what the hell :)
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Just reading that newsletter it struck me that 4 lines further down Blair writes that he arrived in the studio kitchen at 7:30PM and Jambi is 7:28 long. I know it's stupid but what the hell :)
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have none of you heard of this website? its called 'google' www.google.com

morse code alphabet found using 'google'

http://www.cwhistory.com/history/Tea.../morsecode.gif
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have none of you heard of this website? its called 'google' www.google.com

morse code alphabet found using 'google'

http://www.cwhistory.com/history/Tea.../morsecode.gif
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An interesting tidbit, this same EXACT pattern appears in Vicarious starting at about 3:27. There is definatly something more about this code.
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Re: Remember the "morse code"?

An interesting tidbit, this same EXACT pattern appears in Vicarious starting at about 3:27. There is definatly something more about this code.
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An interesting tidbit, this same EXACT pattern appears in Vicarious starting at about 3:27. There is definatly something more about this code.
it's rather simple and can be repeated in nearly any number of parts of songs, and no one would REALLY notice. it's all open in the breakdown anyway. not hard to use that over somewhere.
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An interesting tidbit, this same EXACT pattern appears in Vicarious starting at about 3:27. There is definatly something more about this code.
it's rather simple and can be repeated in nearly any number of parts of songs, and no one would REALLY notice. it's all open in the breakdown anyway. not hard to use that over somewhere.
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Check out this newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_08.php

Scroll down and look after the photo of the amps, Adams and rams head. There is this:

"• • • - • • - - • - -"

It's the pattern used twice in Jambi at 3:40.

• • • - • • - - • - -• • • - • • - - • - - (break down)

The dots equal one chunk of 3 beats while the dashes equal one chunk of 5 beats.

Anyone else find this amazing?
Yeah! I noticed this a couple days ago when I was trying to pick out patterns in the riffs. I recalled seeing some morse code on Toolband.com in a newsletter, and sure enough - that morse code pattern was on the site.

NOW...any translation? I've tried most of the combinations that I can find and haven't found a discernable word yet.
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Check out this newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_08.php

Scroll down and look after the photo of the amps, Adams and rams head. There is this:

"• • • - • • - - • - -"

It's the pattern used twice in Jambi at 3:40.

• • • - • • - - • - -• • • - • • - - • - - (break down)

The dots equal one chunk of 3 beats while the dashes equal one chunk of 5 beats.

Anyone else find this amazing?
Yeah! I noticed this a couple days ago when I was trying to pick out patterns in the riffs. I recalled seeing some morse code on Toolband.com in a newsletter, and sure enough - that morse code pattern was on the site.

NOW...any translation? I've tried most of the combinations that I can find and haven't found a discernable word yet.
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- - - • - - • • - • •

This is the opposite morse code, if it helps. at all.
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This is the opposite morse code, if it helps. at all.
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I KNOW! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WATCH "THE VIEW" FOR CLUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i'm so smart i'm pratcially retarded.
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• • • -
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VUW?


I KNOW! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WATCH "THE VIEW" FOR CLUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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An interesting tidbit, this same EXACT pattern appears in Vicarious starting at about 3:27. There is definatly something more about this code.

are you fucking kidding me..
its dots!

IM all for digging deeper into tool, but this is borderline retarded.
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An interesting tidbit, this same EXACT pattern appears in Vicarious starting at about 3:27. There is definatly something more about this code.

are you fucking kidding me..
its dots!

IM all for digging deeper into tool, but this is borderline retarded.
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According to http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html, it works out to "STIMEM" or maybe "sTIMEm".

The line after the morse code on the news letter is "When the time is right", so there may be some conncection to the word "time".

Doing a simple Google search for "stimem" brings up nothing conclusive. Though in the scientific field it apprears to be an abbrevition for "Stimulated Emission", which according to Wikipedia...

"Although most directly related to the discussion of how lasers work, stimulated emission touches on some of the most basic concepts in physics and the interaction of light and matter. It is a very important and key understanding to the understanding of optics specifically and physics in general."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulated_emission

Just some food for thought....
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According to http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html, it works out to "STIMEM" or maybe "sTIMEm".

The line after the morse code on the news letter is "When the time is right", so there may be some conncection to the word "time".

Doing a simple Google search for "stimem" brings up nothing conclusive. Though in the scientific field it apprears to be an abbrevition for "Stimulated Emission", which according to Wikipedia...

"Although most directly related to the discussion of how lasers work, stimulated emission touches on some of the most basic concepts in physics and the interaction of light and matter. It is a very important and key understanding to the understanding of optics specifically and physics in general."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulated_emission

Just some food for thought....
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Yeah. Um. A series of dots and dashes always represents Morse code guys.
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Yeah. Um. A series of dots and dashes always represents Morse code guys.
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According to http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html, it works out to "STIMEM" or maybe "sTIMEm".

The line after the morse code on the news letter is "When the time is right", so there may be some conncection to the word "time".

Doing a simple Google search for "stimem" brings up nothing conclusive. Though in the scientific field it apprears to be an abbrevition for "Stimulated Emission", which according to Wikipedia...

"Although most directly related to the discussion of how lasers work, stimulated emission touches on some of the most basic concepts in physics and the interaction of light and matter. It is a very important and key understanding to the understanding of optics specifically and physics in general."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulated_emission

Just some food for thought....
stimem is also a spyware program according to google. maybe manerd is telling us, it's time to scan our computers?

http://www.oeone.net/spyware-removal/Stimem-exe.html
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According to http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html, it works out to "STIMEM" or maybe "sTIMEm".

The line after the morse code on the news letter is "When the time is right", so there may be some conncection to the word "time".

Doing a simple Google search for "stimem" brings up nothing conclusive. Though in the scientific field it apprears to be an abbrevition for "Stimulated Emission", which according to Wikipedia...

"Although most directly related to the discussion of how lasers work, stimulated emission touches on some of the most basic concepts in physics and the interaction of light and matter. It is a very important and key understanding to the understanding of optics specifically and physics in general."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulated_emission

Just some food for thought....
stimem is also a spyware program according to google. maybe manerd is telling us, it's time to scan our computers?

http://www.oeone.net/spyware-removal/Stimem-exe.html
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How do you assume that dots represent certain beat lengths?

That's where you're losing credibility. If it was somehow defined more conclusively that the dots and dashes had those specific rhythmic intervals, then yes. But right now, you're on drugs.
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How do you assume that dots represent certain beat lengths?

That's where you're losing credibility. If it was somehow defined more conclusively that the dots and dashes had those specific rhythmic intervals, then yes. But right now, you're on drugs.
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I thought it might be binary instead, and looked around, and there seems to be a link between binary and I Ching, which also seems to have a connection to this album somehow. See what you can come up with.
In binary, as 11101100100, you get 1892.
Does this year mean anything?
The mention of time could imply a date.
There's always the chance of going too deep for nothing, but you never know.
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I thought it might be binary instead, and looked around, and there seems to be a link between binary and I Ching, which also seems to have a connection to this album somehow. See what you can come up with.
In binary, as 11101100100, you get 1892.
Does this year mean anything?
The mention of time could imply a date.
There's always the chance of going too deep for nothing, but you never know.
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05-14-2006, 12:29 PM
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in 1892 the stanley cup was donated by sir frederick stanley, there was an outbreak of cholera in hamburg and Ambercrombie and fitch was founded. Perhaps its a warning of the dangers of consummerism?
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in 1892 the stanley cup was donated by sir frederick stanley, there was an outbreak of cholera in hamburg and Ambercrombie and fitch was founded. Perhaps its a warning of the dangers of consummerism?
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05-15-2006, 12:02 AM
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27 years, 5 months, 28 days, 19 hours, and 12 mins.

27:05:28:19:12:00.0
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27 years, 5 months, 28 days, 19 hours, and 12 mins.

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05-15-2006, 07:42 AM
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How does that number come from this?
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How does that number come from this?
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05-15-2006, 10:51 AM
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It don't...it's judst a clock break down of 10,000 days.

Sorry it was sort of random and pointless, I'll remove it if some people like....
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It don't...it's judst a clock break down of 10,000 days.

Sorry it was sort of random and pointless, I'll remove it if some people like....
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05-15-2006, 11:04 AM
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LMAO, you're a moron
LMAO, you're on probation
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LMAO, you're on probation
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it's rather simple and can be repeated in nearly any number of parts of songs, and no one would REALLY notice. it's all open in the breakdown anyway. not hard to use that over somewhere.
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it's rather simple and can be repeated in nearly any number of parts of songs, and no one would REALLY notice. it's all open in the breakdown anyway. not hard to use that over somewhere.
Yeah but, knowin Tool....they're up to somethin
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