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Old 08-30-2005, 03:54 PM   #1
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lateralus reversed

i dont go to this site much so someone may have already discovered what i have and if so then this post should be removed.

awhile ago i was searching the net for those songs with hidden lyrics when played in reverse like stairway to heaven, another one bites the dust, and theres a song on the wall i forget the name but alot of artist seem to do this stuff and i thought i might as well see if tool has since they all about hidden meanings and what not.

my first test was on the track lateralis since maynard does the fibonacci buisness. i've reversed the whole lateralus album and lateralis is the only track in which i've found an interesting little something. at the end when maynard sings "spiral out, keep going, spiral out..." a few times, when played in reverse, I can still hear him say "spiral out" four times, its quite clear, sounds a little wierd obviously because it in reverse but i think it definately clear.

heres the link to a sound clip that i made. it first plays the section forward then reverses it. let me know what you think and do your own research on thier other other albums, there may be more, i'm too lazy to check.

http://www.geckoband.com/temp/latreversed.mp3

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(p.s. the site hosting the file is one i made for a san diego band "gecko")
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Re: lateralus reversed

doesnt really sound like spiral out.. i mean it does.. but a very drunk version
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Re: lateralus reversed

yeah it does sound like spiral out, but its very distorted, good find nevertheless
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Re: lateralus reversed

Hmm, that is odd. I wonder if it's intentional...
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ya i just think its interesting that its in the same place and says the same thing. i've heard alot of other examples of so called reverse messages and what not and they suck compared to this. i agree though, its not as clear as it is forward. thanks for the comments.
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Re: lateralus reversed

btw how did u reverse it?
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Re: lateralus reversed

download "audacity".

that is cool, probably totally intentional.

you can hear various little whisperings and chants and loops of mayanrd saying "spiral out" through the entire song.
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Re: lateralus reversed

or wavpad
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Re: lateralus reversed

Oh it can do also with audacity.. cool, now i did reverse Lateralus and it sounds quite cool.
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:30 PM   #10
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Re: lateralus reversed

Hey thats pretty cool I can definately hear him saying spiral out in some crazy slurred way but I doubt its intentional.
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Re: lateralus reversed

That is definitely intentional... that's as clear as any reverse lyrics I've ever heard (at least among those that can't be heard played forward).

Going all the way back to high school, I remember the song "Pry, to" on pearl jam's vitalogy says "pete townsend oh you saved my life" when you play it backwards. It's about as clear as "spiral out," but that kind of thing doesn't happen by accident.
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Re: lateralus reversed

this is going to take a while, but for the benefit of me and others i will take every tool song and reverse it tonight for you guys and anything that i find i will take down the song note where in the song to is and what is being herd...

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Re: lateralus reversed

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this is going to take a while, but for the benefit of me and others i will take every tool song and reverse it tonight for you guys and anything that i find i will take down the song note where in the song to is and what is being herd...
awesome, thanks for the effort
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Re: lateralus reversed

That's really cool, thanks for posting that. No way that could not be intentional.
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Re: lateralus reversed

thats weird
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Re: lateralus reversed

... Are you kidding me? People still try this "Play it backward!" stuff?

Wow.
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Re: lateralus reversed

i heard that!!!oh...or is it that i was expected to hear that and my mind made it up.....
eitherways it is a cool way to explore....thx for the info
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Re: lateralus reversed

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... Are you kidding me? People still try this "Play it backward!" stuff?

Wow.
If artists are still going through the effort to produce backwards phrases, why wouldn't the fans attempt to find them? If you think this wasn't intentional, then, well, think harder.
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Re: lateralus reversed

Here's a technical site dedicated to backwards masking. There are accidental ones, and there are masked engineered tracks that are "bare to the naked ear" when played.

http://www.triplo.com/ev/reversal/
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Re: lateralus reversed

The main reason i wanted to post this is because it's the only time i've heard the same thing in both directions. i kind of have an idea of how one would go about making a hidden message when played in reverse but to make it say the same thing sounds really hard. its not like those words racecar that are the same spelled backward, its has to be the same when pronouced in reverse and although i belive this was intentional, it seems hard as hell to achieve.
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Re: lateralus reversed

^and pointless
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Re: lateralus reversed

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... Are you kidding me? People still try this "Play it backward!" stuff?

Wow.
When there are things to fine, why not?
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Old 08-31-2005, 07:36 PM   #23
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Re: lateralus reversed

pretty neat!
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Re: lateralus reversed

I believe it is intentional, while listening to it today, I heard whisperings in the background.
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Re: lateralus reversed

HAHA NICE!!! :D

It is FUN!...who cares if it is intentional or accidental or just a mind game...it's FUN! and INTRIGUING! :D:D:D

Thanks for the post! :)
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Re: lateralus reversed

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^and pointless
except for the fact that the song is a fibonocci ? (or something or other) sequence -spiral frontward and backward-
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Re: lateralus reversed

thats songs probably the most interesting tool song anyway.
in saying that, im excited. lets go have a look.
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Re: lateralus reversed

nkazoura,thanks for the tip!
quite interesting,another point to look out for in tool's wonderland.

by the way,this is maybe (though it's a really hard judgement to make) tool's most beautiful song.



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Here's a technical site dedicated to backwards masking. There are accidental ones, and there are masked engineered tracks that are "bare to the naked ear" when played.

http://www.triplo.com/ev/reversal/
;) cheers
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Re: lateralus reversed

Sounds like "Rye Raw Rowt"
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Re: lateralus reversed

the music is reversible but time is not
turn back, turn back, turn back
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Re: lateralus reversed

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Sounds like "Rye Raw Rowt"
It's Astro the Dog saying "spiral out"
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An Astro and Scooby duet perhaps?
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Re: lateralus reversed

"Remember a few years ago, if you played albums backwards there were satanic messages?

Let me tell you something, if you've EVER sat around playing your albums backwards, you ARE satan. Don't look any further."

- Bill Hicks
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Re: lateralus reversed

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Sounds like "Rye Raw Rowt"
lol....
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Old 11-05-2005, 02:31 PM   #35
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Re: lateralus reversed

one thing i do know is that if you really turn it up during the slow part you can hear "step out" repeated in the background. for example "embrace my desire to step out step out step out" check it out.
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:52 AM   #36
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Re: lateralus reversed

That's just horseshit.
You believe there's satanic messages on Zeppelin songs aswell?
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Re: lateralus reversed

Wow, that's creepy.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:40 AM   #38
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Re: lateralus reversed

RYE ROH ROWT, REET ROROWING
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