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Old 05-08-2019, 04:49 AM   #1841
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The point wasn't whether they sound like Tool, they literally reused riffs and all of the same scales without changing very much. If you look back on their progression from opiate > undertow > aenima > Lateralus > 10k days there were overall differences and improvements in playing styles for each album, but if these 2 songs are any indication of how the rest of the album sounds then I would say they've already reached their peak.

I might grow to like these songs, but if you weren't going to take the last 12-13 years to develop something new but just rehash old riffs... ya, as a fan I am going to be disappointed. And to be honest, they can make a complete trash album for all I care, plenty of other bands I've liked have made trash albums, but I still like the stuff I like and maybe they enjoy playing this stuff.
Maybe the instrumentals were written in 2006! And these are 10,000 Days b sides.

In all seriousness, I am not judging new material based on the first lives performances. Certainly not on smartphone video.
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Old 05-08-2019, 06:20 AM   #1842
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I'm mostly digging the new songs. I hear the re-use of riffs here and there. But I don't mind it. For years now, the most satisfying experience for me creatively is taking old ass riffs/jams of my own and trying to add some new spice to them. It gets to the point where im like... damn, this is something completely different, emotionally speaking. If the result is something that grooves differently, feels familiar and releases new emotion and passion - it's good in my book.

That said. I'm mostly latching on the the music with these new tunes. Maynard's doing okay. I'm having a hard time hearing most of the lyrics, but what I am able to hear doesn't sound too heavy handed socially or politically which was my biggest fear. But he also sounds restrained. No really big vocal moments, melodically or just big notes/screams. Also fairly minimalistic.... he left a lot of empty space. I'm not sure how I feel about that yet. It's understandable.

Take this part from Invincible https://youtu.be/8s5J3HzZUlw?t=552

That groove that starts up feels so... fresh, in terms of Tool. Maynard stopped singing 30sec before that and this whole part goes without a note from him. It feels like a missed opportunity for him to play with the style of his voice a little and just.... join in.

IDK. That and I feel like maynards word choice is a little clunky at times. Sounds like he's forcing "big" words in there some times.

"War-ri-or" 3
"Strug-gl-ing" 3
"To Re-main" 3
"Con-sequ-en---tial" 4 <------ rhythmically that fourth syllable feels... off. But when he changes it to "Rel-e-vant" with 3 syllables, it feels fine to me.

TL:DR; Music good. Maynard okay. 7/10
Mostly agree. The reuse of riffs feels oddly satisfying... Yet a little uncomfortable because it doesn't go where I feel it's going. Looking fwd to the album versions for sure as far as the vocals are concerned. Wonder if these are pretty spot on with the album or if they're taking some liberties because no one knows any different?
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The packaging might have lights incorporated on it?

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These two excellent Birmingham recordings are so fine I think the new album will be fine.

Concept wise it'll be a retrospective on their own career.

And I really like Descending & Invincible.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:25 AM   #1845
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Maybe the instrumentals were written in 2006! And these are 10,000 Days b sides.

In all seriousness, I am not judging new material based on the first lives performances. Certainly not on smartphone video.
they were Apple iphonehome X THOUGH
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:32 AM   #1847
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For a group of people who try so hard to keep the integrity of their work in tact, it boggles my mind that they didn’t try to get ahead of all the shitty phone videos and just release the tracks if they plan on doing so on streaming services anyway. It just seems counter-intuitive to all the no-phone policy’s of the last decade. And if they were waiting till the European dates to do stuff, well we should ask ourselves why. Is there the off chance these two songs have nothing to do with the album and why they haven’t been associated as such on a proper level. When the track list comes out for this do these tracks even appear?? Was this all a rouse and when proper audio is realeased will it sound nothing like this?? Things to ponder...
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The packaging might have lights incorporated on it?

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I'm pretty stoked about this. I've been listening to tool for over 2 decades now and love their work. I live in the Phoenix area and am planning to drive to Jerome (about 2-2 1/2 hours) for the listening party at Puscifer on the 29th!

Anyone else planning to go?
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I'm pretty stoked about this. I've been listening to tool for over 2 decades now and love their work. I live in the Phoenix area and am planning to drive to Jerome (about 2-2 1/2 hours) for the listening party at Puscifer on the 29th!

Anyone else planning to go?
I'm thinking about it, there might be other official listening parties on the West Coast as well...
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I imagine I wouldn’t be welcome at such an event.
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I imagine I wouldn’t be welcome at such an event.
I'll bite, why not?
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By hijacking the once biggest TooL forum for his own plot of world domination I guess.
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