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Didn't Blair mention that they had already set up around a dozen shows? And Minnesota just seems like a strange place to pick if you're only playing 5 shows, I'd expect something more along the lines of NYC, LA, Toronto, Atlanta or Boston, you know, 5 really big cities.
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been reading this site for 5 years now on a frequent basis...
been to 11 tool concerts..
figured today is a good day to join the forum!
anyways, I just wanted to respond to the last person who said that logistically speaking, Minnesota doesn't make much sense.
I disagree.
They are playing Lolla August 7th or 8th, and the Minnestoa date is August 9th.
Geographically speaking, this would make sense since Minnesota is only 6-7 hours from Chicago. Of course, I agree that "5 North American" shows does NOT include festivals. Plus, how credible is this random radio station anyways? I'm sure it's more than 5...
HOWEVER. This Minnesota news definately gets me excited because TORONTO is only 6-7 hours the other direction from Chicago... and any venue in the general area of toronto is GUARANTEED to sell out. Financially it also makes a lot of sense for the band to come to canada given their tour history. Plus, toronto is the biggest city in east coast usa besides new york. Here's hoping....
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Originally Posted by kanaduh
been reading this site for 5 years now on a frequent basis...
been to 11 tool concerts..
figured today is a good day to join the forum!
anyways, I just wanted to respond to the last person who said that logistically speaking, Minnesota doesn't make much sense.
I disagree.
They are playing Lolla August 7th or 8th, and the Minnestoa date is August 9th.
Geographically speaking, this would make sense since Minnesota is only 6-7 hours from Chicago. Of course, I agree that "5 North American" shows does NOT include festivals. Plus, how credible is this random radio station anyways? I'm sure it's more than 5...
HOWEVER. This Minnesota news definately gets me excited because TORONTO is only 6-7 hours the other direction from Chicago... and any venue in the general area of toronto is GUARANTEED to sell out. Financially it also makes a lot of sense for the band to come to canada given their tour history. Plus, toronto is the biggest city in east coast usa besides new york. Here's hoping....
Hey Kanaduh welcome ... I see what you mean about Minn being only 7 hours from Chitown but then what? How far would you have to go to reach another major US market? (without doubling back towards Chi?) I'm not saying it's a bad thing and I'm stoked Minn is getting a show..
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Originally Posted by soreal
any venue in any area is guarenteed to sell out im thinkin.
I used to think that as well.
In the 2007 summer tour I went to the Cincinnati, Youngstown and Detroit shows, and none of them came even close to selling out.
In the 2007 Fall small-venue tour, I went to the Kelowna concert at a junior-hockey sized arena (Prospera place)... I flew there from Toronto on the day of the concert and I walked up to the box office and managed to get a VERY nice seat. But the concert wasn't anywhere near sold out.
Same thing with Washington October 2006 show. I went last minute, and managed to get a pretty nice site and the concert wasn't sold out.
Toronto, on the other hand... 10 000 Days warmup tour sold out in the PRESALE. None even made it to the general public. I had people outside the venue offerring me $500 cash for my ticket. Of course I laughed at them.
Toronto 2006 summer tour the Molson Ampitheatre (18 000 ish capacity) sold out in minutes. Then again in 2007 the Hamilton show sold out so quickly that tool ended up adding a second show in hamilton later in the month. That one did not sell out, but came close.
Just saying...
based on my personal experiences and the numbers Toronto just makes so much sense for the band.
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what would be funny is if they went and played the shows that they canceled during the last tour and then went into the studio and recorded a new album... I cant remember where those shows were but that would be funny.
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Originally Posted by sonnyboy11
How does a radio station in Minny know that Tool are only doing 5 shows? I am calling major, utter BULLSHIT!
I think they are wrong / making it up / mis-informed.
While I don't have any concrete proof (yet) I think that number is a little low.
Even discounting the 3 known festivals, I don't see it being only 5 solo shows.
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Originally Posted by junior
I think they are wrong / making it up / mis-informed.
While I don't have any concrete proof (yet) I think that number is a little low.
Even discounting the 3 known festivals, I don't see it being only 5 solo shows.
Well, any inside knowledge you have aside, what sense does it make for them to do so few shows? I mentioned this in an earlier post but putting a Tool tour together must be difficult at best. Why would they only do 5 shows? I am not often right around here, but I am right about this.
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Originally Posted by sonnyboy11
Well, any inside knowledge you have aside, what sense does it make for them to do so few shows? I mentioned this in an earlier post but putting a Tool tour together must be difficult at best. Why would they only do 5 shows? I am not often right around here, but I am right about this.
I think the whole purpose of this "tour" is because they had offers to do a few festivals and figured they might as well fill in the gaps with some actual Tool shows. I don't expect it to end up being a lot of shows, but I do think 5 isn't realistic.
At the very least, we know for sure that they are playing Mile High Fest on the 18th of July, All Points West on the 1st of August, and Lollapalooza on the 7th, 8th, or 9th of August. That's a 3 week span between Mile High and Lolla, with at least 18-20 days unaccounted for. If they only did 5 shows, then 13-15 of those are days off and it's a losing proposition for everyone involved. Normally you wouldn't have more than 7 days off in a 3 week period (maximum) and more likely you would try to hold that to about 5 days off. Using that logic, there would likely be 14-16 shows (all included) during that 3 week period.
The shows could start before July 18th and/or end after August 9th, which would allow for even more. I'm just saying that we know for sure there is a commitment to at LEAST 3 weeks of time. I don't see it being realistic to only do 5 (or even 8) shows during that amount of time.
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Originally Posted by junior
I Normally you wouldn't have more than 7 days off in a 3 week period (maximum) and more likely you would try to hold that to about 5 days off. Using that logic, there would likely be 14-16 shows (all included) during that 3 week period.
Good news indeed. Lets hope one (or two) of those 14-16 shows is a "Pearl."
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Originally Posted by junior
I think the whole purpose of this "tour" is because they had offers to do a few festivals and figured they might as well fill in the gaps with some actual Tool shows. I don't expect it to end up being a lot of shows, but I do think 5 isn't realistic.
At the very least, we know for sure that they are playing Mile High Fest on the 18th of July, All Points West on the 1st of August, and Lollapalooza on the 7th, 8th, or 9th of August. That's a 3 week span between Mile High and Lolla, with at least 18-20 days unaccounted for. If they only did 5 shows, then 13-15 of those are days off and it's a losing proposition for everyone involved. Normally you wouldn't have more than 7 days off in a 3 week period (maximum) and more likely you would try to hold that to about 5 days off. Using that logic, there would likely be 14-16 shows (all included) during that 3 week period.
The shows could start before July 18th and/or end after August 9th, which would allow for even more. I'm just saying that we know for sure there is a commitment to at LEAST 3 weeks of time. I don't see it being realistic to only do 5 (or even 8) shows during that amount of time.
Thanks Junior! Your posts are one of the reasons I read this thread. Its awesome to hear how things really work.
That said I'm getting scared we might miss out here in Houston cause all the other shows are at the top of the map. I guess it depends on how many shows they do if they will dip this far south.
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Originally Posted by jwb
Good news indeed. Lets hope one (or two) of those 14-16 shows is a "Pearl."
Come on man, you're in NC. Let's spread a little love for the southeast!!!
J/K of course. No way I could make a show at the Pearl this go around but it does sound like a fantastic setting.
I'm just hoping for a loop down south after Mile High on the way to APW. Atlanta....Charlotte...hell even DC I could possibly make. Truthfully I'm greedy and hoping they come to my home of Columbia, SC. It's 3 hrs or less from Chapel Hill, Atlanta, Charleston, Asheville, Savannah, etc. If you're doing one show in the area it's a great spot. We have an 18k arena two miles from my house, and Pearl Jam put on a great show there last summer (w/ packed house). Plus there's the added bonus that it's not a Ticketmaster venue.
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Tool loves Greenville. Its the only SC city they've ever played, as far as I know but I'm not expecting us to get anything that close this time around. What I'm afraid of is a repeat of what happened right after Lateralus released- 4 shows in North America, one of which was in ATL, and those tickets were fucking impossible to get.
I''m having a hard time not betting on the sure thing and booking a trip to Chicago in August.
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Originally Posted by sonnyboy11
Well, any inside knowledge you have aside, what sense does it make for them to do so few shows? I mentioned this in an earlier post but putting a Tool tour together must be difficult at best. Why would they only do 5 shows? I am not often right around here, but I am right about this.
If I remember correctly last Tool tour, Tool did a few shows in smaller venues before announcing the larger tour. All the news and talk going on the tool websites right now seems very similar to what was going on about 3 years ago. So even though I'm from MN, I'm optimistic Tool will do a larger tour within a year.
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Originally Posted by skeeter
If I remember correctly last Tool tour, Tool did a few shows in smaller venues before announcing the larger tour. All the news and talk going on the tool websites right now seems very similar to what was going on about 3 years ago. So even though I'm from MN, I'm optimistic Tool will do a larger tour within a year.
You're a crazy dreamer- but I hope you're right! Just keep in mind that you are talking about tours that were warm ups for a forthcoming record. There is no such record in the pipe afaik so these are most likely just one off dates with maybe one or two different songs added to the current set, like H. or the Grudge.
I am really hoping they try out at least one new song on these upcoming dates. If they have been working on any new material, now might be a good time to spring it. Although Tool has been notoriously guarded with their new music and its availability to fans, let's not forget they actually played pieces of Wings 1&2 during the Lateralus tour.
And can we please get the debut of Intension already?
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You're a crazy dreamer- but I hope you're right! Just keep in mind that you are talking about tours that were warm ups for a forthcoming record.
This is wildly optimistic: this "tour" will be a warmup for their next album. They have stated in interviews that they like to test their songs live before recording them. However, they are rightfully concerned about illegal recordings. Nevertheless, the tour will be an opportunity for the band to bounce ideas off eachother and (possibly) test their work in front of a crowd. Adam indicated in his Guitar World interview that him and Justin have been working on some riffs together. But of course, they are a long way from having that new album ready for us. If the past is any indication of the future, we should expect to see the next album by early 2010.
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Originally Posted by dr funkmaster
Come on man, you're in NC. Let's spread a little love for the southeast!!!
J/K of course. No way I could make a show at the Pearl this go around but it does sound like a fantastic setting.
I'm just hoping for a loop down south after Mile High on the way to APW. Atlanta....Charlotte...hell even DC I could possibly make. Truthfully I'm greedy and hoping they come to my home of Columbia, SC. It's 3 hrs or less from Chapel Hill, Atlanta, Charleston, Asheville, Savannah, etc. If you're doing one show in the area it's a great spot. We have an 18k arena two miles from my house, and Pearl Jam put on a great show there last summer (w/ packed house). Plus there's the added bonus that it's not a Ticketmaster venue.
I know, I know....wishful thinking.
No doubt, I'd love to catch a show in the dirty dirty, but I went out to the Pearl last time around and that place is second to none. And selfishly speaking, I'd love a reason for a Vegas vacation.
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Originally Posted by jwb
No doubt, I'd love to catch a show in the dirty dirty, but I went out to the Pearl last time around and that place is second to none. And selfishly speaking, I'd love a reason for a Vegas vacation.
Amen brother. Saw the last show of 10000 days there. Nothing beats combining a Tool show at such a great venue with a weekend of betting on football, drinking and gambling.
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"93X has confirmed that, Tool will return to Minnesota, early August at Xcel Center for 1 of 5 North American shows. It will be a Full Tool show. 93X will announce a firm date as soon as it’s locked down, and ticket information."
perhaps it was a misquote, meaning one of 5 solo shows in addition to their festival dates.
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Originally Posted by Runner701
So, a Sunday show - probably the last show of the festival...
One thing I know for certain is that I'd rather wait a little longer if we can get all dates at once instead of small batches spead out over a week or so.
Also with it being a very small tour, hopefully they wont put the local restriction on the TA Presale. That sucked.
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I am hoping for a show in the Seattle area (they should do a gorge show and it would be the best show of the tour!!) I dont want to travel too far but i will do what ever it takes to see TOOL this summer
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san diego or la or vegas i'll be there. i like to think there's a great likelyhood they'll get at least one of the three.
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san diego or la or vegas i'll be there. i like to think there's a great likelyhood they'll get at least one of the three.
LA and NYC seem like no-brainers. I'm praying for an Indianapolis date sometime around Lollapalooza. Probably not happening, but I never thought they'd play Fort Wayne either!
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Someone seemingly in the know on TA posted that they will play Lollapalooza on August 9th.
I thought I read somewhere they were doing Sat. in Chicago and Sunday in MN. Not saying you are wrong. Looking at the other bands at lollapoolooza (However the fuck you spell it), I woulod say Tool would be the biggest.
But that may be just to this crowd and not necessarily in the eyes of the organizers. The original Janes Addiction together would be a big draw as well.
Anyway, I bet that they won't do announce anything until the lollapollooza announces each days lineup.
This waiting sucks.
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I think I'm dying a little bit on the inside everyday no more tour dates are posted. I live in western Kansas so I gotta save money for tickets and gas/hotel cause my ass has to drive to a state with an actual city in it.
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Jesus Christ ppl....think of it this way...at least we know they are freaking touring this summer and possibly putting something out for us to open our wallets for. Member how it was like when nothing was going, no news, or rumors. Yeah that was bad.
Have some patience...go look at some midget porn or something. lol
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i just want to say thanks to junior for being a voice of reason in this muddled hell of a forum. glad to finally have someone on the inside quashing all the speculation. thanks for your time. and thanks for all the set lists over the years. i know its a pain in the ass having some fan bother you during break down. see ya on tour!
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It took some negotiating... Though, I was finally able to convince my finance to take our honeymoon in Chicago during Lollapalooza. -got to love a girl with some common sense.
"Yeah Tool is fucking amazing. But there’s a big chunk of their fan base that think they’ve become thought provoking geniuses just from listening to them."
"Yeah Tool is fucking amazing. But there’s a big chunk of their fan base that think they’ve become thought provoking geniuses just from listening to them."
