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10-09-2014, 08:23 AM
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i'm going to reykjavik, london and manchester next month. Mastadon is playing in manchester while i'm there so i grabbed a ticket. just found out that Big Business will be the opening band - i'm pretty stoked for that. they opened for Tool in 2007 (i think) and then joined with the Melvins for a while.
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i'm going to reykjavik, london and manchester next month. Mastadon is playing in manchester while i'm there so i grabbed a ticket. just found out that Big Business will be the opening band - i'm pretty stoked for that. they opened for Tool in 2007 (i think) and then joined with the Melvins for a while.
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Thoughts on the MJK remark to one Adam Jones....? (Smoke on the horizon-Prove it) This is definitely last album. Sad but true.
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Thoughts on the MJK remark to one Adam Jones....? (Smoke on the horizon-Prove it) This is definitely last album. Sad but true.
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Thoughts on the MJK remark to one Adam Jones....? (Smoke on the horizon-Prove it) This is definitely last album. Sad but true.
I don't think it's any indication of a last album or not. I strongly doubt Maynard was doing anything other than taking the piss. If he is seriously having a go at Adam then I'd suggest that band is already over...but I doubt that.
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Thoughts on the MJK remark to one Adam Jones....? (Smoke on the horizon-Prove it) This is definitely last album. Sad but true.
I don't think it's any indication of a last album or not. I strongly doubt Maynard was doing anything other than taking the piss. If he is seriously having a go at Adam then I'd suggest that band is already over...but I doubt that.
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Thoughts on the MJK remark to one Adam Jones....? (Smoke on the horizon-Prove it) This is definitely last album. Sad but true.
I disagree with you. If Maynard has any feeling toward Adam similar to Adam's toward Maynard, then they will continue writing for a long time. Adam described his writing process as being like an oil painter, constantly getting rid of small sections and re-doing them so he can perfect the piece as a whole over time. Maynard, he said, can go in, sketch the work, paint it, and be done within a week--with the same degree of completeness. So I wouldn't say this is an aggressive jab at Adam, I think it's just Maynard poking fun at this slower process. But there is absolutely a lot of respect between the band members--it's just that I think Maynard is a lot less open about expressing that, and that's just his personality, but it doesn't strike me that he is unappreciative of the others' talents and their work all together.
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Thoughts on the MJK remark to one Adam Jones....? (Smoke on the horizon-Prove it) This is definitely last album. Sad but true.
I disagree with you. If Maynard has any feeling toward Adam similar to Adam's toward Maynard, then they will continue writing for a long time. Adam described his writing process as being like an oil painter, constantly getting rid of small sections and re-doing them so he can perfect the piece as a whole over time. Maynard, he said, can go in, sketch the work, paint it, and be done within a week--with the same degree of completeness. So I wouldn't say this is an aggressive jab at Adam, I think it's just Maynard poking fun at this slower process. But there is absolutely a lot of respect between the band members--it's just that I think Maynard is a lot less open about expressing that, and that's just his personality, but it doesn't strike me that he is unappreciative of the others' talents and their work all together.
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I don't think it's any indication of a last album or not. I strongly doubt Maynard was doing anything other than taking the piss. If he is seriously having a go at Adam then I'd suggest that band is already over...but I doubt that.
What's going on with adam and Nardo?
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I don't think it's any indication of a last album or not. I strongly doubt Maynard was doing anything other than taking the piss. If he is seriously having a go at Adam then I'd suggest that band is already over...but I doubt that.
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What's going on with adam and Nardo?
Nothing I imagine. There seems to be a train of thought that they hate or dislike each other, but I don't buy it to be honest.
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Nothing I imagine. There seems to be a train of thought that they hate or dislike each other, but I don't buy it to be honest.
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Maynard is quite the Joker and enjoys fucking with everyone.
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Nothing I imagine. There seems to be a train of thought that they hate or dislike each other, but I don't buy it to be honest.

Where are the quotes from?
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Nothing I imagine. There seems to be a train of thought that they hate or dislike each other, but I don't buy it to be honest.

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Where are the quotes from?
Not sure what quotes you are talking about?
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Not sure what quotes you are talking about?
Just wondering where the MJK and Adam aren't getting along posts comes from.

I went to one of those VIP with Adam deals last tour, and he basically said he takes a lot of time to be sure everything is perfect, and MJK can do it with the same quality in a lot less time. No animosity, just different ways of getting to the same result.
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Not sure what quotes you are talking about?
Just wondering where the MJK and Adam aren't getting along posts comes from.

I went to one of those VIP with Adam deals last tour, and he basically said he takes a lot of time to be sure everything is perfect, and MJK can do it with the same quality in a lot less time. No animosity, just different ways of getting to the same result.
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Just wondering where the MJK and Adam aren't getting along posts comes from.
I don't have any on hand. I've read it both here an on Fourtheye several times. As I said, I don't think there's anything to it.

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Yep, that's how I imagine it goes down. No doubt the members of Tool have had personality clashes from time to time.
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Just wondering where the MJK and Adam aren't getting along posts comes from.
I don't have any on hand. I've read it both here an on Fourtheye several times. As I said, I don't think there's anything to it.

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Yep, that's how I imagine it goes down. No doubt the members of Tool have had personality clashes from time to time.
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also Adam being the only member not to show up at Cinquanta, probably has something to do with it as well.
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also Adam being the only member not to show up at Cinquanta, probably has something to do with it as well.
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I imagine they would've had a more private celebration too, though, wouldn't you?
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I imagine they would've had a more private celebration too, though, wouldn't you?
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I sure like to imagine that. Dry handjobs and wet kisses abound.
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also Adam being the only member not to show up at Cinquanta, probably has something to do with it as well.
Yeah, but I 'm not trying to suggest they're best buddies either. I wouldn't go to birthday parties for all the guys and girls I work with either, but I get along with them just fine.
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also Adam being the only member not to show up at Cinquanta, probably has something to do with it as well.
Yeah, but I 'm not trying to suggest they're best buddies either. I wouldn't go to birthday parties for all the guys and girls I work with either, but I get along with them just fine.
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also Adam being the only member not to show up at Cinquanta, probably has something to do with it as well.
Wait. How did Adam steal you iPhone if he wasn't there? His doppelgänger?
I think this mystery needs more investigating. Do DC, MJK and Justin all have alibis? What about Green Jello? They're pretty sketchy dudes.
I say we re-open this investigation.
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also Adam being the only member not to show up at Cinquanta, probably has something to do with it as well.
Wait. How did Adam steal you iPhone if he wasn't there? His doppelgänger?
I think this mystery needs more investigating. Do DC, MJK and Justin all have alibis? What about Green Jello? They're pretty sketchy dudes.
I say we re-open this investigation.
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Wait. How did Adam steal you iPhone if he wasn't there? His doppelgänger?
I think this mystery needs more investigating. Do DC, MJK and Justin all have alibis? What about Green Jello? They're pretty sketchy dudes.
I say we re-open this investigation.
Adam took his phone at a Tool show, not a Puscifer one.
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Wait. How did Adam steal you iPhone if he wasn't there? His doppelgänger?
I think this mystery needs more investigating. Do DC, MJK and Justin all have alibis? What about Green Jello? They're pretty sketchy dudes.
I say we re-open this investigation.
Adam took his phone at a Tool show, not a Puscifer one.
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Adam took his phone at a Tool show, not a Puscifer one.
hah, nope.

after the whole VIP recording incident though he took everyones phone for the remainder of the tool tour, and Juan (VIP/deftones guy) henceforth referred to me as "that jackass".

it was a few months later at Cinquanta in LA when I completely blacked out (remembering not much) during the concert, and woke up with my phone and wallet missing. coincidentally Adam was also not seen at the concert. gotta love a good conspiracy theory eh?

fuck, with the way adam (and his brother) reacted, i'm surprised i haven't been partially blamed for the delay of the new album yet.
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Adam took his phone at a Tool show, not a Puscifer one.
hah, nope.

after the whole VIP recording incident though he took everyones phone for the remainder of the tool tour, and Juan (VIP/deftones guy) henceforth referred to me as "that jackass".

it was a few months later at Cinquanta in LA when I completely blacked out (remembering not much) during the concert, and woke up with my phone and wallet missing. coincidentally Adam was also not seen at the concert. gotta love a good conspiracy theory eh?

fuck, with the way adam (and his brother) reacted, i'm surprised i haven't been partially blamed for the delay of the new album yet.
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This thread makes me want to see Tool again.

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This thread makes me want to see Tool again.

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Sounds like a hooker robbed you, Kanadah. You were in LA, yes? No need for a cover up blaming excessive drinking, Adam and his cousins.
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Sounds like a hooker robbed you, Kanadah. You were in LA, yes? No need for a cover up blaming excessive drinking, Adam and his cousins.
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fuck, with the way adam (and his brother) reacted, i'm surprised i haven't been partially blamed for the delay of the new album yet.
why would what i'm assuming was a single night affect the album they've been working on for 8 years?
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fuck, with the way adam (and his brother) reacted, i'm surprised i haven't been partially blamed for the delay of the new album yet.
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MJK also only one that didnt show to Adams wedding.
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MJK also only one that didnt show to Adams wedding.
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Wair a minute, ...you mean to tell me this is a fan site for the band TOOL?! The whole time ive been here I thought this was the fan site for Motley Crue. I get those two confused alot. The music sounds so much alike
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Wair a minute, ...you mean to tell me this is a fan site for the band TOOL?! The whole time ive been here I thought this was the fan site for Motley Crue. I get those two confused alot. The music sounds so much alike
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hah, nope.


fuck, with the way adam (and his brother) reacted, i'm surprised i haven't been partially blamed for the delay of the new album yet.
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hah, nope.


fuck, with the way adam (and his brother) reacted, i'm surprised i haven't been partially blamed for the delay of the new album yet.
Don't flatter yourself kid.
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Wair a minute, ...you mean to tell me this is a fan site for the band TOOL?! The whole time ive been here I thought this was the fan site for Motley Crue. I get those two confused alot. The music sounds so much alike
Chubby Vince is so dreamy.
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Wair a minute, ...you mean to tell me this is a fan site for the band TOOL?! The whole time ive been here I thought this was the fan site for Motley Crue. I get those two confused alot. The music sounds so much alike
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slow month on the tool news front...

here's something interesting for you guys to check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxsGIDOaDG4

this was the first concert after 9/11. interesting maynard speech, and i absolutely loved the "non conformity oath" trolling at the end by MJK.
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slow month on the tool news front...

here's something interesting for you guys to check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxsGIDOaDG4

this was the first concert after 9/11. interesting maynard speech, and i absolutely loved the "non conformity oath" trolling at the end by MJK.
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MJK also only one that didnt show to Adams wedding.
Is that true? If so, cold as fuck.
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Is that true? If so, cold as fuck.
I don't think anyone here knows for sure if he attended or not, but he was not in any of the pictures they released. So many people (including myself), assume grape harvest season took precedent overe Adam's wedding.
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Is that true? If so, cold as fuck.
I don't think anyone here knows for sure if he attended or not, but he was not in any of the pictures they released. So many people (including myself), assume grape harvest season took precedent overe Adam's wedding.
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we should call tmz and see if they can clear this up
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Maynard just sold his Hollywood Hills house? With the move there won't be any time at all for Maynard to get in the studio. Album just got pushed back another year folks.
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Maynard just sold his Hollywood Hills house? With the move there won't be any time at all for Maynard to get in the studio. Album just got pushed back another year folks.
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i thought he moved like a year ago. unless hes selling another house in hollywood.

EDIT: nvm it was only like 6 months ago i saw it.
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i thought he moved like a year ago. unless hes selling another house in hollywood.

EDIT: nvm it was only like 6 months ago i saw it.
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MJK also only one that didnt show to Adams wedding.
Didn't show, or wasn't invited? I don't think anyone knows this, or if in fact he was actually absent. The speculation is silly.

Did all of you guys invite all your workmates to your wedding? I sure as hell didn't. I'm as cold as ice it seems.
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MJK also only one that didnt show to Adams wedding.
Didn't show, or wasn't invited? I don't think anyone knows this, or if in fact he was actually absent. The speculation is silly.

Did all of you guys invite all your workmates to your wedding? I sure as hell didn't. I'm as cold as ice it seems.
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Maynard just sold his Hollywood Hills house? With the move there won't be any time at all for Maynard to get in the studio. Album just got pushed back another year folks.
We were trying not to jinx it, Lo7us. With our luck a moving man will pull his back or some shit trying to lift Maynard's chest of outfits and wigs and sue the shit out of him to pay for his medical bills, adding on another few years.
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Maynard just sold his Hollywood Hills house? With the move there won't be any time at all for Maynard to get in the studio. Album just got pushed back another year folks.
We were trying not to jinx it, Lo7us. With our luck a moving man will pull his back or some shit trying to lift Maynard's chest of outfits and wigs and sue the shit out of him to pay for his medical bills, adding on another few years.
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Didn't show, or wasn't invited? I don't think anyone knows this, or if in fact he was actually absent. The speculation is silly.

Did all of you guys invite all your workmates to your wedding? I sure as hell didn't. I'm as cold as ice it seems.
I mean you're technically right, but being in a band goes way beyond being professional co workers. It's not the same at working in an office and only seeing each other eight hours a day, if that. Band mates spend more time together and that time is more intimate because they go through a lot together. So I don't think it's fair to treat their relationship to one another as merely a "work" one. Even though it's its own thing, being in a band would be more akin to being part of a sports team. You're closer to one another. Also, for a band all about compassion and letting go of grudges, it seems hypocritical.

Before anyone tells me they're human and they don't have be perfect
Because they sing about that shit, I get it. It is annoying though when someone tries to preach about creativity and compassion and can't even maintain a relationship with a band member.

All that said, the comment MJK posted on AJs Instagram with the picture of the whiteboard to me means they are on good terms.
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Didn't show, or wasn't invited? I don't think anyone knows this, or if in fact he was actually absent. The speculation is silly.

Did all of you guys invite all your workmates to your wedding? I sure as hell didn't. I'm as cold as ice it seems.
I mean you're technically right, but being in a band goes way beyond being professional co workers. It's not the same at working in an office and only seeing each other eight hours a day, if that. Band mates spend more time together and that time is more intimate because they go through a lot together. So I don't think it's fair to treat their relationship to one another as merely a "work" one. Even though it's its own thing, being in a band would be more akin to being part of a sports team. You're closer to one another. Also, for a band all about compassion and letting go of grudges, it seems hypocritical.

Before anyone tells me they're human and they don't have be perfect
Because they sing about that shit, I get it. It is annoying though when someone tries to preach about creativity and compassion and can't even maintain a relationship with a band member.

All that said, the comment MJK posted on AJs Instagram with the picture of the whiteboard to me means they are on good terms.
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Lmao....no, really...I really laughed my ass off. Its right here on the floor next to the couch.
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Lmao....no, really...I really laughed my ass off. Its right here on the floor next to the couch.
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[QUOTE=hellboy1975;3147886]Didn't show, or wasn't invited? I don't think anyone knows this, or if in fact he was actually absent.


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[QUOTE=hellboy1975;3147886]Didn't show, or wasn't invited? I don't think anyone knows this, or if in fact he was actually absent.


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It is annoying though when someone tries to preach about creativity and compassion and can't even maintain a relationship with a band member.
So people like to speculate. My theory is that Maynard and Adam get along just fine. They're probably not BFF's though.

Maynard and Adam have lived in different states for many years now. They probably only see each other on tour, and maybe a few other times during the year when the band hooks up to discuss business. Sure they've been through a lot together in the past, but that's no sure sign that they're still close. Close enough to invite to a wedding anyway.

Anyway, this speculation is going nowhere fast...
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It is annoying though when someone tries to preach about creativity and compassion and can't even maintain a relationship with a band member.
So people like to speculate. My theory is that Maynard and Adam get along just fine. They're probably not BFF's though.

Maynard and Adam have lived in different states for many years now. They probably only see each other on tour, and maybe a few other times during the year when the band hooks up to discuss business. Sure they've been through a lot together in the past, but that's no sure sign that they're still close. Close enough to invite to a wedding anyway.

Anyway, this speculation is going nowhere fast...
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