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05-02-2006, 05:37 AM
There is no theme to this album. It's just rock music. Nothing is hidden. It's a summation of everything they've done to this point.
Their pictures appear in the album.
They make fun of themselves on several tracks.
The lyrics are straight forward and unambiguous.
The artwork is just nice to look at, nothing mysterious.
They're appearing on a handful of magazines.
They're goofing around on stage and in interviews.
Their new press kit photos show them all acting a fool.
This album tosses aside all of the mystique and focuses on rockin' out while remaining true to the mojo of Tool. Get it through your head. Stop looking for a message and go read a book.
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There is no theme
There is no theme to this album. It's just rock music. Nothing is hidden. It's a summation of everything they've done to this point.
Their pictures appear in the album.
They make fun of themselves on several tracks.
The lyrics are straight forward and unambiguous.
The artwork is just nice to look at, nothing mysterious.
They're appearing on a handful of magazines.
They're goofing around on stage and in interviews.
Their new press kit photos show them all acting a fool.
This album tosses aside all of the mystique and focuses on rockin' out while remaining true to the mojo of Tool. Get it through your head. Stop looking for a message and go read a book.
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Originally Posted by zerosummind
There is no theme to this album. It's just rock music. Nothing is hidden. It's a summation of everything they've done to this point.
Their pictures appear in the album.
They make fun of themselves on several tracks.
The lyrics are straight forward and unambiguous.
The artwork is just nice to look at, nothing mysterious.
They're appearing on a handful of magazines.
They're goofing around on stage and in interviews.
Their new press kit photos show them all acting a fool.
This album tosses aside all of the mystique and focuses on rockin' out while remaining true to the mojo of Tool. Get it through your head. Stop looking for a message and go read a book.
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haha
05-02-2006, 05:40 AM
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Re: There is no theme
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Originally Posted by zerosummind
There is no theme to this album. It's just rock music. Nothing is hidden. It's a summation of everything they've done to this point.
Their pictures appear in the album.
They make fun of themselves on several tracks.
The lyrics are straight forward and unambiguous.
The artwork is just nice to look at, nothing mysterious.
They're appearing on a handful of magazines.
They're goofing around on stage and in interviews.
Their new press kit photos show them all acting a fool.
This album tosses aside all of the mystique and focuses on rockin' out while remaining true to the mojo of Tool. Get it through your head. Stop looking for a message and go read a book.
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05-02-2006, 05:47 AM
I thought this album was presented a bit silly.
I love the music - but like I've said 10,000 times... "What the hell does Alex Grey's themes have anything to do with the music this time around?"
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Re: There is no theme
I thought this album was presented a bit silly.
I love the music - but like I've said 10,000 times... "What the hell does Alex Grey's themes have anything to do with the music this time around?"
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I thought this album was presented a bit silly.
I love the music - but like I've said 10,000 times... "What the hell does Alex Grey's themes have anything to do with the music this time around?"
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05-02-2006, 05:50 AM
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Re: There is no theme
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I thought this album was presented a bit silly.
I love the music - but like I've said 10,000 times... "What the hell does Alex Grey's themes have anything to do with the music this time around?"
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05-02-2006, 05:52 AM
Didn't the band already state in various interviews that the theme of this album is basically "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink?" It's about losing arrogance and accepting te way things are.
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Re: There is no theme
Didn't the band already state in various interviews that the theme of this album is basically "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink?" It's about losing arrogance and accepting te way things are.
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05-02-2006, 05:57 AM
People keep saying there is no unifying theme on this album---something that pulls together and connects all the tracks. Actually, I find the theme to be quite obvious and strong. Maybe that's just me.
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Re: There is no theme
People keep saying there is no unifying theme on this album---something that pulls together and connects all the tracks. Actually, I find the theme to be quite obvious and strong. Maybe that's just me.
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It's about bitches and spinners!
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It's about bitches and spinners!
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05-02-2006, 06:08 AM
It's about Maynard's (insert any word here)
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It's about Maynard's (insert any word here)
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05-02-2006, 06:23 AM
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People keep saying there is no unifying theme on this album---something that pulls together and connects all the tracks. Actually, I find the theme to be quite obvious and strong. Maybe that's just me.
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Well, the question is: does the theme match Alex Grey's usual themes as Lateralus seemed to? And since it "worked" for Lateralus, does it mean it "works" for 10,000 Days. Were we not warned: "This is not Lateralus 2?"
Maybe I'm missing it - I'm picking up my two copies today.
I give the music a 10/10 because, afterall, if Tool's not a 10... what the fuck is? (Besides The Chronic, obviously)
Still, somebody would need to show me what the artwork has to do with the album.
I think that's a bit sloppy, a bit gimmicky, but oh well.
I'm just waiting for some real personal experiences to get tied into the music I have before me. Everybody else is too, they just don't know it. Then the album will be "awesome".
05-02-2006, 06:23 AM
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Re: There is no theme
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People keep saying there is no unifying theme on this album---something that pulls together and connects all the tracks. Actually, I find the theme to be quite obvious and strong. Maybe that's just me.
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Well, the question is: does the theme match Alex Grey's usual themes as Lateralus seemed to? And since it "worked" for Lateralus, does it mean it "works" for 10,000 Days. Were we not warned: "This is not Lateralus 2?"
Maybe I'm missing it - I'm picking up my two copies today.
I give the music a 10/10 because, afterall, if Tool's not a 10... what the fuck is? (Besides The Chronic, obviously)
Still, somebody would need to show me what the artwork has to do with the album.
I think that's a bit sloppy, a bit gimmicky, but oh well.
I'm just waiting for some real personal experiences to get tied into the music I have before me. Everybody else is too, they just don't know it. Then the album will be "awesome".
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05-02-2006, 06:36 AM
Wait another 5 years and see what happens.
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Wait another 5 years and see what happens.
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its a fuckin apc record...
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Re: There is no theme
its a fuckin apc record...
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05-02-2006, 07:34 AM
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Well, the question is: does the theme match Alex Grey's usual themes as Lateralus seemed to? And since it "worked" for Lateralus, does it mean it "works" for 10,000 Days. Were we not warned: "This is not Lateralus 2?"
Maybe I'm missing it - I'm picking up my two copies today.
I give the music a 10/10 because, afterall, if Tool's not a 10... what the fuck is? (Besides The Chronic, obviously)
Still, somebody would need to show me what the artwork has to do with the album.
I think that's a bit sloppy, a bit gimmicky, but oh well.
I'm just waiting for some real personal experiences to get tied into the music I have before me. Everybody else is too, they just don't know it. Then the album will be "awesome".
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first of all look at justins picture and maynards picture and you will see maynard toasting to his mother (wings for marie/10,000 days) and justin with a eagle (wings/10,000 days) also a alien in a jar (rosetta) adams picture what looks like a geenie reference (jambi) but thats just how i see it.
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Re: There is no theme
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Originally Posted by Madrid
Well, the question is: does the theme match Alex Grey's usual themes as Lateralus seemed to? And since it "worked" for Lateralus, does it mean it "works" for 10,000 Days. Were we not warned: "This is not Lateralus 2?"
Maybe I'm missing it - I'm picking up my two copies today.
I give the music a 10/10 because, afterall, if Tool's not a 10... what the fuck is? (Besides The Chronic, obviously)
Still, somebody would need to show me what the artwork has to do with the album.
I think that's a bit sloppy, a bit gimmicky, but oh well.
I'm just waiting for some real personal experiences to get tied into the music I have before me. Everybody else is too, they just don't know it. Then the album will be "awesome".
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first of all look at justins picture and maynards picture and you will see maynard toasting to his mother (wings for marie/10,000 days) and justin with a eagle (wings/10,000 days) also a alien in a jar (rosetta) adams picture what looks like a geenie reference (jambi) but thats just how i see it.
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05-02-2006, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zerosummind
There is no theme to this album. It's just rock music. Nothing is hidden. It's a summation of everything they've done to this point.
Their pictures appear in the album.
They make fun of themselves on several tracks.
The lyrics are straight forward and unambiguous.
The artwork is just nice to look at, nothing mysterious.
They're appearing on a handful of magazines.
They're goofing around on stage and in interviews.
Their new press kit photos show them all acting a fool.
This album tosses aside all of the mystique and focuses on rockin' out while remaining true to the mojo of Tool. Get it through your head. Stop looking for a message and go read a book.
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Whoa! I think you're over-analyzing it a bit too much... !
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05-02-2006, 07:39 AM
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Re: There is no theme
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Originally Posted by zerosummind
There is no theme to this album. It's just rock music. Nothing is hidden. It's a summation of everything they've done to this point.
Their pictures appear in the album.
They make fun of themselves on several tracks.
The lyrics are straight forward and unambiguous.
The artwork is just nice to look at, nothing mysterious.
They're appearing on a handful of magazines.
They're goofing around on stage and in interviews.
Their new press kit photos show them all acting a fool.
This album tosses aside all of the mystique and focuses on rockin' out while remaining true to the mojo of Tool. Get it through your head. Stop looking for a message and go read a book.
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Whoa! I think you're over-analyzing it a bit too much... !
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its a fuckin apc record...
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Honestly, to say this you must have never listened to APC.
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Re: There is no theme
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its a fuckin apc record...
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Honestly, to say this you must have never listened to APC.
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05-02-2006, 07:54 AM
What many of you don't realize is that an album doesn't have to have a theme. Lateralus spoiled us that way. Most records are a collection of songs without any major theme. That's what 10,000 Days is.
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Re: There is no theme
What many of you don't realize is that an album doesn't have to have a theme. Lateralus spoiled us that way. Most records are a collection of songs without any major theme. That's what 10,000 Days is.
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its a fuckin apc record...
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Honestly, to say this you must have never listened to APC.
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Exactly. This sounds NOTHING like APC. This album has it's own unique feel. Jambi really pins down the feel of this album for me. You don't get that talkbox feeling on anything other TOOL or APC record.
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Re: There is no theme
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its a fuckin apc record...
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Honestly, to say this you must have never listened to APC.
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Exactly. This sounds NOTHING like APC. This album has it's own unique feel. Jambi really pins down the feel of this album for me. You don't get that talkbox feeling on anything other TOOL or APC record.
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05-03-2006, 07:40 AM
Of course albums don't have to have themes. But Tool fans are used to delving into all of the interesting explorations the band has to offer with each new release (although most of which are just red herrings to prove a point).
I think that's why a lot of people here have issues with the new album. You're so used to running around quoting Tool lyrics and talking about Jung or Hicks or Campbell or Chakras that you don't know what to do when Tool just puts out some rock music without telling you who to be for the next five years.
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Re: There is no theme
Of course albums don't have to have themes. But Tool fans are used to delving into all of the interesting explorations the band has to offer with each new release (although most of which are just red herrings to prove a point).
I think that's why a lot of people here have issues with the new album. You're so used to running around quoting Tool lyrics and talking about Jung or Hicks or Campbell or Chakras that you don't know what to do when Tool just puts out some rock music without telling you who to be for the next five years.
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05-03-2006, 07:48 AM
i generally got an overall feel that unifying subject of the album is division and introversion. but i just woke up and dont feel like elaborateing just now
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i generally got an overall feel that unifying subject of the album is division and introversion. but i just woke up and dont feel like elaborateing just now
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No theme? It's all about anal sex and drug abuse like all the previous albums.
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No theme? It's all about anal sex and drug abuse like all the previous albums.
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oh my god shut up you've contributed absolutely nothing to this forum
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It's about bitches and spinners!
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05-03-2006, 08:03 AM
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its a fuckin apc record...
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I've thought about this as well. It's very APC-like.
In regards to the theme... there doesn't seem to be one, but that in itself, could be the "theme." However, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus all had themes - many and deep. Maybe it's too early to make this judgement call.
I agree with zerosummind on most of his points. The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
I'll have to give it a couple weeks before I can really say anything worthwhile.
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The lyrics are feeling a little better, but they're not typical Maynard... they don't seem as poetic.
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its a fuckin apc record...
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I've thought about this as well. It's very APC-like.
In regards to the theme... there doesn't seem to be one, but that in itself, could be the "theme." However, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus all had themes - many and deep. Maybe it's too early to make this judgement call.
I agree with zerosummind on most of his points. The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
I'll have to give it a couple weeks before I can really say anything worthwhile.
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The lyrics are feeling a little better, but they're not typical Maynard... they don't seem as poetic.
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I've thought about this as well. It's very APC-like.
In regards to the theme... there doesn't seem to be one, but that in itself, could be the "theme." However, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus all had themes - many and deep. Maybe it's too early to make this judgement call.
I agree with zerosummind on most of his points. The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
I'll have to give it a couple weeks before I can really say anything worthwhile.
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I honestly see nothing similar to A Perfect Circle in this album...and don't quite understand why its so cool now to say such things. Tool isn't Maynard...and Maynard isn't Tool (or APC for that matter). I won't run around the forum bellowing this to everyone, but, damnit, its starting to get old.
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I've thought about this as well. It's very APC-like.
In regards to the theme... there doesn't seem to be one, but that in itself, could be the "theme." However, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus all had themes - many and deep. Maybe it's too early to make this judgement call.
I agree with zerosummind on most of his points. The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
I'll have to give it a couple weeks before I can really say anything worthwhile.
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I honestly see nothing similar to A Perfect Circle in this album...and don't quite understand why its so cool now to say such things. Tool isn't Maynard...and Maynard isn't Tool (or APC for that matter). I won't run around the forum bellowing this to everyone, but, damnit, its starting to get old.
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The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
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10,000 days/Ænima lyrics > Lateralus lyrics
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The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
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10,000 days/Ænima lyrics > Lateralus lyrics
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I've thought about this as well. It's very APC-like.
In regards to the theme... there doesn't seem to be one, but that in itself, could be the "theme." However, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus all had themes - many and deep. Maybe it's too early to make this judgement call.
I agree with zerosummind on most of his points. The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
I'll have to give it a couple weeks before I can really say anything worthwhile.
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I think "trials and tribulations" is some sort of religious reference, which fits perfectly on the track. I know what you mean, though. The lyrics are actually better than I thought on the first few listens. It's just that... they're not mystical. I miss... the mysticism.
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I've thought about this as well. It's very APC-like.
In regards to the theme... there doesn't seem to be one, but that in itself, could be the "theme." However, Undertow, Aenima, and Lateralus all had themes - many and deep. Maybe it's too early to make this judgement call.
I agree with zerosummind on most of his points. The saddest part, for me, is that the lyrics are so obvious, and *gasp* uninspired. It first struck me when I heard "trials and tribulations" uttered from Maynard's lips... it just seems like a cliche phrase.
I'll have to give it a couple weeks before I can really say anything worthwhile.
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I think "trials and tribulations" is some sort of religious reference, which fits perfectly on the track. I know what you mean, though. The lyrics are actually better than I thought on the first few listens. It's just that... they're not mystical. I miss... the mysticism.
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It's about Maynard's (insert any word here)
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05-03-2006, 08:19 AM
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I miss... the mysticism.
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I don't. But hey to each his own.
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I miss... the mysticism.
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I don't. But hey to each his own.
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05-03-2006, 08:22 AM
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I don't. But hey to each his own.
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It's part of what made Tool distinctively Tool.
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I don't. But hey to each his own.
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No it's part of why I still don't like Lateralus. A good part of that so called mysticism was created by the fans five years ago.
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No it's part of why I still don't like Lateralus. A good part of that so called mysticism was created by the fans five years ago.
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05-03-2006, 08:40 AM
am i the only one that is incredibly happy that
tool has turned another corner...they have done
something completely different direction wise..
love it...makes the band so much more profound.
progressive...and real.
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am i the only one that is incredibly happy that
tool has turned another corner...they have done
something completely different direction wise..
love it...makes the band so much more profound.
progressive...and real.
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05-03-2006, 08:43 AM
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I honestly see nothing similar to A Perfect Circle in this album...and don't quite understand why its so cool now to say such things. Tool isn't Maynard...and Maynard isn't Tool (or APC for that matter). I won't run around the forum bellowing this to everyone, but, damnit, its starting to get old.
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I know. Tool is Tool, and this album does not feel like Tool. Sorry to scapegoat APC, but this album feels more like APC than it does Tool.
I'm still giving it a chance. Maybe Lateralus spoiled me.
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Re: There is no theme
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I honestly see nothing similar to A Perfect Circle in this album...and don't quite understand why its so cool now to say such things. Tool isn't Maynard...and Maynard isn't Tool (or APC for that matter). I won't run around the forum bellowing this to everyone, but, damnit, its starting to get old.
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I know. Tool is Tool, and this album does not feel like Tool. Sorry to scapegoat APC, but this album feels more like APC than it does Tool.
I'm still giving it a chance. Maybe Lateralus spoiled me.
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05-03-2006, 08:55 AM
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No it's part of why I still don't like Lateralus. A good part of that so called mysticism was created by the fans five years ago.
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Listen to Undertow or Aenima and tell me that music doesn't have a (dark) mystical quality to it. I didn't really like Lateralus as much, either. Undertow and Aenima were like black magic, and Lateralus was like white magic, and 10kd is like... no magic.
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Re: There is no theme
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No it's part of why I still don't like Lateralus. A good part of that so called mysticism was created by the fans five years ago.
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Listen to Undertow or Aenima and tell me that music doesn't have a (dark) mystical quality to it. I didn't really like Lateralus as much, either. Undertow and Aenima were like black magic, and Lateralus was like white magic, and 10kd is like... no magic.
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I find it interesting that people are talking about the mysticism concidering the artwaork of the album has a distinctly Victorian feel. It was during the Victorian age that Mysticism/Spirituality was at it's peak, and when it was largely exposed to be fruadulant. Could this be the "theme" everyone is looking for? Only this time around it is a bit more subtle. I like 10,000 days, it has great tone, and is possibly the best recording they have they have yet produced. Sadly, Maynard's vocals/lyrics seem to be the weak point of the Album. Something just seems off, I can't quite put my finger on it. However, I still like it. I have the day off, so I am going to spend the day immersing myself in the music, see how it stands next to previous albums. Perhaps I will share my thoughts, later. I will say this, I don't like the packaging. The art work is fine, but I think it is a bit gimmicky (as someone else mentioned) and more than a little inconvenient.
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Re: There is no theme
I find it interesting that people are talking about the mysticism concidering the artwaork of the album has a distinctly Victorian feel. It was during the Victorian age that Mysticism/Spirituality was at it's peak, and when it was largely exposed to be fruadulant. Could this be the "theme" everyone is looking for? Only this time around it is a bit more subtle. I like 10,000 days, it has great tone, and is possibly the best recording they have they have yet produced. Sadly, Maynard's vocals/lyrics seem to be the weak point of the Album. Something just seems off, I can't quite put my finger on it. However, I still like it. I have the day off, so I am going to spend the day immersing myself in the music, see how it stands next to previous albums. Perhaps I will share my thoughts, later. I will say this, I don't like the packaging. The art work is fine, but I think it is a bit gimmicky (as someone else mentioned) and more than a little inconvenient.
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05-03-2006, 09:03 AM
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am i the only one that is incredibly happy that
tool has turned another corner...they have done
something completely different direction wise..
love it...makes the band so much more profound.
progressive...and real.
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i agree. it's refreshing. at first listen i was a bit skeptical about what i was hearing (being at work with headphones on, I couldn't really turn my full attention to it anyway). now, after a few listens and some digesting, i really enjoy it. i caught myself a few times sinking into the familiar guitar riffs thinking "oh, here's 'lateralus' again," or "the drums on the last few bars of that song sound just like the end of 'Ænima,'" but something new, be it the vocals (so melodic at times!) or whatever, would transcend to remind me that there is no same ol' Tool album. me likey.
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Re: There is no theme
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am i the only one that is incredibly happy that
tool has turned another corner...they have done
something completely different direction wise..
love it...makes the band so much more profound.
progressive...and real.
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i agree. it's refreshing. at first listen i was a bit skeptical about what i was hearing (being at work with headphones on, I couldn't really turn my full attention to it anyway). now, after a few listens and some digesting, i really enjoy it. i caught myself a few times sinking into the familiar guitar riffs thinking "oh, here's 'lateralus' again," or "the drums on the last few bars of that song sound just like the end of 'Ænima,'" but something new, be it the vocals (so melodic at times!) or whatever, would transcend to remind me that there is no same ol' Tool album. me likey.
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05-03-2006, 09:12 AM
sounds like apc? yeah josh freese can really drum like danny carey.
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sounds like apc? yeah josh freese can really drum like danny carey.
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..its all about the maynard...
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05-03-2006, 09:48 AM
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..its all about the maynard...
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05-03-2006, 04:22 PM
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am i the only one that is incredibly happy that
tool has turned another corner...they have done
something completely different direction wise..
love it...makes the band so much more profound.
progressive...and real.
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You are not the only one.
05-03-2006, 04:22 PM
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Re: There is no theme
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am i the only one that is incredibly happy that
tool has turned another corner...they have done
something completely different direction wise..
love it...makes the band so much more profound.
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You are not the only one.
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05-03-2006, 04:28 PM
There seems to be a theme of duality consistent throughout the album. Perhaps you could correlate that with the "multi-faced" beings, not to mention the double pictures (although obviously done for the glasses.)
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Re: There is no theme
There seems to be a theme of duality consistent throughout the album. Perhaps you could correlate that with the "multi-faced" beings, not to mention the double pictures (although obviously done for the glasses.)
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05-03-2006, 05:28 PM
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sounds like apc? yeah josh freese can really drum like danny carey.
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Danny Carey can drum better than this.
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Re: There is no theme
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sounds like apc? yeah josh freese can really drum like danny carey.
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Danny Carey can drum better than this.
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05-03-2006, 06:20 PM
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I find it interesting that people are talking about the mysticism concidering the artwaork of the album has a distinctly Victorian feel. It was during the Victorian age that Mysticism/Spirituality was at it's peak, and when it was largely exposed to be fruadulant. Could this be the "theme" everyone is looking for? Only this time around it is a bit more subtle.
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Dude, seriously. Shut up.
05-03-2006, 06:20 PM
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Re: There is no theme
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I find it interesting that people are talking about the mysticism concidering the artwaork of the album has a distinctly Victorian feel. It was during the Victorian age that Mysticism/Spirituality was at it's peak, and when it was largely exposed to be fruadulant. Could this be the "theme" everyone is looking for? Only this time around it is a bit more subtle.
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Dude, seriously. Shut up.
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Dude, seriously. Shut up.
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wow, such an impressive use of language. You must have spent hours pouring over your thesaurus and cross referencing your dictionary to come up with such a clever response.
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Dude, seriously. Shut up.
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wow, such an impressive use of language. You must have spent hours pouring over your thesaurus and cross referencing your dictionary to come up with such a clever response.
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