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07-09-2006, 09:15 PM

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its STOW the cradle as in HIDE, this goes along with burn the evidence... see... snow just makes no sence at all and there is a definite 't' sound there.

also i hear "steal borrow reversing your shady inference"
When someone suggested "reversing" I was like, that's brilliant. But when I listened, the phonetics don't really match up. The word he says sounds more like "save" (as in save or savior), not sing

Also, there is not even close to a definite 't' sound, in the studio, live, or make-believe recordings of this song. It's not stow, as much sense as it would make, sorry.
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

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its STOW the cradle as in HIDE, this goes along with burn the evidence... see... snow just makes no sence at all and there is a definite 't' sound there.

also i hear "steal borrow reversing your shady inference"
When someone suggested "reversing" I was like, that's brilliant. But when I listened, the phonetics don't really match up. The word he says sounds more like "save" (as in save or savior), not sing

Also, there is not even close to a definite 't' sound, in the studio, live, or make-believe recordings of this song. It's not stow, as much sense as it would make, sorry.
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07-10-2006, 06:41 AM

Courtney Love ! yes that is brilliant.
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Courtney Love ! yes that is brilliant.
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07-10-2006, 08:21 AM

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When someone suggested "reversing" I was like, that's brilliant. But when I listened, the phonetics don't really match up. The word he says sounds more like "save" (as in save or savior), not sing

Also, there is not even close to a definite 't' sound, in the studio, live, or make-believe recordings of this song. It's not stow, as much sense as it would make, sorry.
Let's take a moment to review...

How does reply #765 on page 20 compare to reply #742 on page 19?
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

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When someone suggested "reversing" I was like, that's brilliant. But when I listened, the phonetics don't really match up. The word he says sounds more like "save" (as in save or savior), not sing

Also, there is not even close to a definite 't' sound, in the studio, live, or make-believe recordings of this song. It's not stow, as much sense as it would make, sorry.
Let's take a moment to review...

How does reply #765 on page 20 compare to reply #742 on page 19?
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07-10-2006, 09:49 AM

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Conjure up a lie!
Terry, I completely understand what you're saying. Having read your past posts, you are apparently big on pronounciation. But, the reason I put the "d" at the end of 'conjured' was only because it matches the past tense of the other lines (....when you pissed....you must have been...) I don't actually hear a "d" here, I just thought it might have been skipped over and implied. Also, there is a very unmistakable "s" at the end of the line indicating a plural. Furthermore, if you say this line out loud and listen to yourself , it is pretty much inevitable that there will be an "a" sound within the transition from the "p" to the "l". Unless, of course, you isolate each word and pronounce them seperately, which to me is a bit uncomfortable.
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

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Conjure up a lie!
Terry, I completely understand what you're saying. Having read your past posts, you are apparently big on pronounciation. But, the reason I put the "d" at the end of 'conjured' was only because it matches the past tense of the other lines (....when you pissed....you must have been...) I don't actually hear a "d" here, I just thought it might have been skipped over and implied. Also, there is a very unmistakable "s" at the end of the line indicating a plural. Furthermore, if you say this line out loud and listen to yourself , it is pretty much inevitable that there will be an "a" sound within the transition from the "p" to the "l". Unless, of course, you isolate each word and pronounce them seperately, which to me is a bit uncomfortable.
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07-10-2006, 12:59 PM

It's spoken:

"Conj-up-a-lies"

How du you get the "conjured up" here?
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

It's spoken:

"Conj-up-a-lies"

How du you get the "conjured up" here?
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07-10-2006, 05:15 PM

HES SAYING SWEATY FINGER ITS OBVIOUS HE LOVES REFERENCES TO SWEAT/WATER K MANG
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HES SAYING SWEATY FINGER ITS OBVIOUS HE LOVES REFERENCES TO SWEAT/WATER K MANG
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07-11-2006, 06:44 AM

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It's spoken:

"Conj-up-a-lies"

How du you get the "conjured up" here?
Yeah, I agree with you. How about this...

Conjure up lies , pronounced: Conj-Rup-LLLLies

Do you think we could agree on this?
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

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It's spoken:

"Conj-up-a-lies"

How du you get the "conjured up" here?
Yeah, I agree with you. How about this...

Conjure up lies , pronounced: Conj-Rup-LLLLies

Do you think we could agree on this?
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07-11-2006, 07:27 AM

Yep. Good man.
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Yep. Good man.
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07-13-2006, 08:22 AM

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He sings definately "Ganja" or "gunshot", heard it on the live versions.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's 'Ganja' not "Catch up on lies" There is definately a 'G' sound and I definately don't hear all the other words that everyone else hears. My Theory:
"Eyeballs Deep In Bloody Waters
Your Balls Deep In Muddy Waters
Ganja A-Blaze
You Must Have Been Out Your Mind"
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

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He sings definately "Ganja" or "gunshot", heard it on the live versions.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's 'Ganja' not "Catch up on lies" There is definately a 'G' sound and I definately don't hear all the other words that everyone else hears. My Theory:
"Eyeballs Deep In Bloody Waters
Your Balls Deep In Muddy Waters
Ganja A-Blaze
You Must Have Been Out Your Mind"
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07-13-2006, 08:37 AM

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Let's take a moment to review...

How does reply #765 on page 20 compare to reply #742 on page 19?
Fair enough =P
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Let's take a moment to review...

How does reply #765 on page 20 compare to reply #742 on page 19?
Fair enough =P
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07-13-2006, 10:33 AM

conjure up lies-maybe
god drop the lies?

it does sound like ganja but surely maynard wouldn't pronounce police like that.
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conjure up lies-maybe
god drop the lies?

it does sound like ganja but surely maynard wouldn't pronounce police like that.
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07-15-2006, 06:37 AM

I've listened to the last two lines of 'the pot' many, many times and have finally decided that he's saying "got'cha for lies/ you must have been out your mind" --referring to the government/lawyers/liars/hypocrates he's been talking about. Listen to it again, to me it just makes alot more sense and fits in with the overall context alot better!

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a good thought

I've listened to the last two lines of 'the pot' many, many times and have finally decided that he's saying "got'cha for lies/ you must have been out your mind" --referring to the government/lawyers/liars/hypocrates he's been talking about. Listen to it again, to me it just makes alot more sense and fits in with the overall context alot better!

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07-19-2006, 10:10 AM

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its STOW the cradle as in HIDE, this goes along with burn the evidence... see... snow just makes no sence at all and there is a definite 't' sound there.

also i hear "steal borrow reversing your shady inference"
Snow makes perfect sence because in the dictionary it says that snow can be a slang term meaning to deceive or mislead. Haven't you ever heard of a Snow Job?Also I do not hear a 't' sound whatsoever
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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

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Originally Posted by voluptuary
its STOW the cradle as in HIDE, this goes along with burn the evidence... see... snow just makes no sence at all and there is a definite 't' sound there.

also i hear "steal borrow reversing your shady inference"
Snow makes perfect sence because in the dictionary it says that snow can be a slang term meaning to deceive or mislead. Haven't you ever heard of a Snow Job?Also I do not hear a 't' sound whatsoever
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07-21-2006, 07:56 PM

I'VE GOT IT!
I just now heard what MJK's saying at the end, and it makes PERFECT sense:

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES!

And going along with how Bill Hicks used to call the USA the bullies of the world... gee, I wonder what this song's aboot? heh, of course it wasn't such a mystery anyway, but hey.

Annnnd one more thing. Stow makes PERFECT sense as that whole verse is contradictory. Rob/stow, cards and glass/stones... good on ye'!

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I'VE GOT IT!
I just now heard what MJK's saying at the end, and it makes PERFECT sense:

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES!

And going along with how Bill Hicks used to call the USA the bullies of the world... gee, I wonder what this song's aboot? heh, of course it wasn't such a mystery anyway, but hey.

Annnnd one more thing. Stow makes PERFECT sense as that whole verse is contradictory. Rob/stow, cards and glass/stones... good on ye'!

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07-23-2006, 04:18 AM

It's not about USA or the government or Bush or political or such a CRAP.
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It's not about USA or the government or Bush or political or such a CRAP.
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07-27-2006, 10:30 AM

I interpret part of the song as "Piss all over my black head--oh"--and thus read a whole bunch of racial/political/carceral shit into my understanding of the song as a whole. Regardless of whether or not these are 'actual words' they have hightened my appreciation the song. I'd appreciate any thoughts. Peace.
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I interpret part of the song as "Piss all over my black head--oh"--and thus read a whole bunch of racial/political/carceral shit into my understanding of the song as a whole. Regardless of whether or not these are 'actual words' they have hightened my appreciation the song. I'd appreciate any thoughts. Peace.
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07-27-2006, 10:35 AM

But this song is definately about the black kettle.
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But this song is definately about the black kettle.
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07-27-2006, 10:40 AM

Thanks Terry. Your brevity is matched only by your accuracy.
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Thanks Terry. Your brevity is matched only by your accuracy.
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07-28-2006, 08:32 AM

Yeah, the pot calling the kettle black; we got that.
Along with all the other allusions to hypocrisy found in the song's lyrics, hence making it NOT simply about a black kettle.

Anyways, my whole point of initially posting a few posts back was to let everyone know what he's saying at the end... so I reiterate:

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES!
You must -- have been
Out your -- mind....
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Yeah, the pot calling the kettle black; we got that.
Along with all the other allusions to hypocrisy found in the song's lyrics, hence making it NOT simply about a black kettle.

Anyways, my whole point of initially posting a few posts back was to let everyone know what he's saying at the end... so I reiterate:

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES!
You must -- have been
Out your -- mind....
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^ uh, no?
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^ uh, no?
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07-28-2006, 09:17 AM

I had thought it was Ganja Police.
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I had thought it was Ganja Police.
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07-28-2006, 09:20 AM

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Thanks Terry. Your brevity is matched only by your accuracy.
I'm sorry that I'm right.
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Thanks Terry. Your brevity is matched only by your accuracy.
I'm sorry that I'm right.
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07-28-2006, 04:34 PM

The supposed "ganja police" line really sounds like "ganja 4 life" to me.
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The supposed "ganja police" line really sounds like "ganja 4 life" to me.
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07-28-2006, 05:34 PM

"Steal, borrow, reefer.."

Anyone think he could be saying "Steal, borrow, refer.."
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"Steal, borrow, reefer.."

Anyone think he could be saying "Steal, borrow, refer.."
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07-28-2006, 05:54 PM

sounds like "steal, borrow, reaper, savior"
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sounds like "steal, borrow, reaper, savior"
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07-28-2006, 05:56 PM

The thing is... it could be either "steal borrow reaper saviour" or "steal borrow reversing your". You can't tell, you totally can't. I listened to various live concerts, he always sings it like it can be both. It could also be reefer.
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The thing is... it could be either "steal borrow reaper saviour" or "steal borrow reversing your". You can't tell, you totally can't. I listened to various live concerts, he always sings it like it can be both. It could also be reefer.
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The thing is... it could be either "steal borrow reaper saviour" or "steal borrow reversing your". You can't tell, you totally can't. I listened to various live concerts, he always sings it like it can be both. It could also be reefer.
if it's not reefer than it's reaper pronounced with a f in place of the p.
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The thing is... it could be either "steal borrow reaper saviour" or "steal borrow reversing your". You can't tell, you totally can't. I listened to various live concerts, he always sings it like it can be both. It could also be reefer.
if it's not reefer than it's reaper pronounced with a f in place of the p.
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07-28-2006, 06:07 PM

That's what I first though too. But then again it's rather reversing.
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That's what I first though too. But then again it's rather reversing.
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That's what I first though too. But then again it's rather reversing.
Yeah, it's most likely reefer.
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That's what I first though too. But then again it's rather reversing.
Yeah, it's most likely reefer.
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07-28-2006, 06:34 PM

but seriously, no one has anything to say about my "ganja 4 life" idea?
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but seriously, no one has anything to say about my "ganja 4 life" idea?
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07-28-2006, 07:07 PM

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^ uh, no?
Uh, what do you mean "uh, no?"

It's clear as day every time I hear it now, and it's the only phrase that makes absolute sense within the context of the song.

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES! =P
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^ uh, no?
Uh, what do you mean "uh, no?"

It's clear as day every time I hear it now, and it's the only phrase that makes absolute sense within the context of the song.

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES! =P
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07-29-2006, 03:20 AM

I forget who first suggested it, but I liked the "Gotcha for lies" idea.
"Ganja..." -maybe, "...police" -not bloody likely, unless he's pronouncing it "Ganja poLIZE" for some bizarre and inexplicable reason. Definitely something "...lies". I first thought "Gotta be lies" but now I prefer "Gotcha for lies". Still not sure though.
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I forget who first suggested it, but I liked the "Gotcha for lies" idea.
"Ganja..." -maybe, "...police" -not bloody likely, unless he's pronouncing it "Ganja poLIZE" for some bizarre and inexplicable reason. Definitely something "...lies". I first thought "Gotta be lies" but now I prefer "Gotcha for lies". Still not sure though.
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I forget who first suggested it, but I liked the "Gotcha for lies" idea.
"Ganja..." -maybe, "...police" -not bloody likely, unless he's pronouncing it "Ganja poLIZE" for some bizarre and inexplicable reason. Definitely something "...lies". I first thought "Gotta be lies" but now I prefer "Gotcha for lies". Still not sure though.
You have to take into consideration the way Maynard sings as well. He almost sings with a subtle accent, but doesn't talk with one. I had thought, if it was Ganja Police, he would pronounce it:

(Ganja Po-lice) Ganja Police.

"Lice" being referred to as the bug on your scalp.

I know it's different, be he does that sometimes.
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I forget who first suggested it, but I liked the "Gotcha for lies" idea.
"Ganja..." -maybe, "...police" -not bloody likely, unless he's pronouncing it "Ganja poLIZE" for some bizarre and inexplicable reason. Definitely something "...lies". I first thought "Gotta be lies" but now I prefer "Gotcha for lies". Still not sure though.
You have to take into consideration the way Maynard sings as well. He almost sings with a subtle accent, but doesn't talk with one. I had thought, if it was Ganja Police, he would pronounce it:

(Ganja Po-lice) Ganja Police.

"Lice" being referred to as the bug on your scalp.

I know it's different, be he does that sometimes.
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I know it's different, be he does that sometimes.
Example please. Maybe I could buy into the "Ganja police" thing if someone could show me somewhere else where he mispronounces a word this badly.
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I know it's different, be he does that sometimes.
Example please. Maybe I could buy into the "Ganja police" thing if someone could show me somewhere else where he mispronounces a word this badly.
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Examples:

Listen to the way he says "Facade" in the song Eulogy.

Listen to how he says "Pushit at me" and "Pushit on me". He pronounces the "me", almost like "meh", of course speaking before the outro of the intro lyrics.

Another is in Hooker With A Penis. Give a listen to the way he says "Advise" in the lyrics "I've got some 'advise' for you little buddy.."

He makes words sound a certain way to tie together with the music in the song.

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Re: 05 - The Pot lyrics

Examples:

Listen to the way he says "Facade" in the song Eulogy.

Listen to how he says "Pushit at me" and "Pushit on me". He pronounces the "me", almost like "meh", of course speaking before the outro of the intro lyrics.

Another is in Hooker With A Penis. Give a listen to the way he says "Advise" in the lyrics "I've got some 'advise' for you little buddy.."

He makes words sound a certain way to tie together with the music in the song.

Take care,

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Uh, what do you mean "uh, no?"

It's clear as day every time I hear it now, and it's the only phrase that makes absolute sense within the context of the song.

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES! =P
Yes, except that he says a G.
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Uh, what do you mean "uh, no?"

It's clear as day every time I hear it now, and it's the only phrase that makes absolute sense within the context of the song.

BUNCHA' BUL-LIES! =P
Yes, except that he says a G.
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07-30-2006, 12:52 PM

I have read in the 'lyrics' section, a translation I think is totally incorrect.
I believe it is "when you pissed all over my back hill, you must have been high"
Not "my black kettle", sorry but that makes no sense.
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Lyrics...my humble correction

I have read in the 'lyrics' section, a translation I think is totally incorrect.
I believe it is "when you pissed all over my back hill, you must have been high"
Not "my black kettle", sorry but that makes no sense.
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seriously?
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07-30-2006, 07:06 PM

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I have read in the 'lyrics' section, a translation I think is totally incorrect.
I believe it is "when you pissed all over my back hill, you must have been high"
Not "my black kettle", sorry but that makes no sense.
This song, the whole meaning is about the pot who's calling the kettle black, but the pot is black too. It's a metaphor for hypocrism, the theme of the song. (A quote from "Easy journey to other planets", after the comment that one can fly to every planet he desires:) Of this there is no doubt.
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I have read in the 'lyrics' section, a translation I think is totally incorrect.
I believe it is "when you pissed all over my back hill, you must have been high"
Not "my black kettle", sorry but that makes no sense.
This song, the whole meaning is about the pot who's calling the kettle black, but the pot is black too. It's a metaphor for hypocrism, the theme of the song. (A quote from "Easy journey to other planets", after the comment that one can fly to every planet he desires:) Of this there is no doubt.
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