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That new times article was golden.
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I think too much got made of the "overhaul" in Blair's interview with Breck.
All we did was throw out the lighting technology that has mostly been in place since 2006 and start to put together a new interpretation of how we can put on a Tool show. The video control system got an overhaul about 2 years ago, and will be getting less of one right now, but there are some changes there, too.

It's mostly building blocks for "the next tour" (whenever that actually happens), more specifically a show that's more suited to festival shows (like this one on Saturday).
There will be some familiar looks and concepts that have been re-created into this new show, but it's been done from scratch.

There will be a completely unrelated "new show" when they do a tour of their own after the new album is out. There are already some ideas for that, and some might come from this Tempe show, but that production hasn't even been started, really. I'm hoping that show will be a fairly radical departure, but it remains to be seen.

If nothing had been said about us working on this Tempe show, it's doubtful most would have noticed, apart from a few new surprises, which would have been nice additions that are now expected changes. That's how I was seeing it.
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I think too much got made of the "overhaul" in Blair's interview with Breck.
All we did was throw out the lighting technology that has mostly been in place since 2006 and start to put together a new interpretation of how we can put on a Tool show. The video control system got an overhaul about 2 years ago, and will be getting less of one right now, but there are some changes there, too.

It's mostly building blocks for "the next tour" (whenever that actually happens), more specifically a show that's more suited to festival shows (like this one on Saturday).
There will be some familiar looks and concepts that have been re-created into this new show, but it's been done from scratch.

There will be a completely unrelated "new show" when they do a tour of their own after the new album is out. There are already some ideas for that, and some might come from this Tempe show, but that production hasn't even been started, really. I'm hoping that show will be a fairly radical departure, but it remains to be seen.

If nothing had been said about us working on this Tempe show, it's doubtful most would have noticed, apart from a few new surprises, which would have been nice additions that are now expected changes. That's how I was seeing it.
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I don't think retarded is the politically correct term, "mentally challenged" I believe is the currently correct way to describe us.

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I don't think retarded is the politically correct term, "mentally challenged" I believe is the currently correct way to describe us.

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I think too much got made of the "overhaul" in Blair's interview with Breck.
All we did was throw out the lighting technology that has mostly been in place since 2006 and start to put together a new interpretation of how we can put on a Tool show. The video control system got an overhaul about 2 years ago, and will be getting less of one right now, but there are some changes there, too.

It's mostly building blocks for "the next tour" (whenever that actually happens), more specifically a show that's more suited to festival shows (like this one on Saturday).
There will be some familiar looks and concepts that have been re-created into this new show, but it's been done from scratch.

There will be a completely unrelated "new show" when they do a tour of their own after the new album is out. There are already some ideas for that, and some might come from this Tempe show, but that production hasn't even been started, really. I'm hoping that show will be a fairly radical departure, but it remains to be seen.

If nothing had been said about us working on this Tempe show, it's doubtful most would have noticed, apart from a few new surprises, which would have been nice additions that are now expected changes. That's how I was seeing it.
Thanks for the info, junior.
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I think too much got made of the "overhaul" in Blair's interview with Breck.
All we did was throw out the lighting technology that has mostly been in place since 2006 and start to put together a new interpretation of how we can put on a Tool show. The video control system got an overhaul about 2 years ago, and will be getting less of one right now, but there are some changes there, too.

It's mostly building blocks for "the next tour" (whenever that actually happens), more specifically a show that's more suited to festival shows (like this one on Saturday).
There will be some familiar looks and concepts that have been re-created into this new show, but it's been done from scratch.

There will be a completely unrelated "new show" when they do a tour of their own after the new album is out. There are already some ideas for that, and some might come from this Tempe show, but that production hasn't even been started, really. I'm hoping that show will be a fairly radical departure, but it remains to be seen.

If nothing had been said about us working on this Tempe show, it's doubtful most would have noticed, apart from a few new surprises, which would have been nice additions that are now expected changes. That's how I was seeing it.
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I wholeheartedly agree with maynard on this one.
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finally booked flights! phoenix friday to monday. any of you bastards attending get in touch to meet up for beers if you're going!
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finally booked flights! phoenix friday to monday. any of you bastards attending get in touch to meet up for beers if you're going!
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I wholeheartedly agree with maynard on this one.
"haha, I don;t really like tool fans either."

Same deal. Its worse than Phish lot. I have to go car to car telling them to shut off the TOOL we are going to see them in 45mins. These fans don't get it and just stare at me like im an immigrant.
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I wholeheartedly agree with maynard on this one.
"haha, I don;t really like tool fans either."

Same deal. Its worse than Phish lot. I have to go car to car telling them to shut off the TOOL we are going to see them in 45mins. These fans don't get it and just stare at me like im an immigrant.
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circa 2007:

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Please forgive this bold suggestion, but
Should you see your Maker's face tonight,
Look Him in the eye, look Him in the eye, and tell Him:
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"PLAY THE FUCKING POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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^not surprised. still shitty.

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"haha, I don;t really like tool fans either."

Same deal. Its worse than Phish lot. I have to go car to car telling them to shut off the TOOL we are going to see them in 45mins. These fans don't get it and just stare at me like im an immigrant.
You go car to car at a concert and tell people they can't listen to the band they are about to see?
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^not surprised. still shitty.

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"haha, I don;t really like tool fans either."

Same deal. Its worse than Phish lot. I have to go car to car telling them to shut off the TOOL we are going to see them in 45mins. These fans don't get it and just stare at me like im an immigrant.
You go car to car at a concert and tell people they can't listen to the band they are about to see?
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What's wrong with Phish Heads?

Also, the last Tool concert that I went to in SD the fans were fine. We had such a great time tailgating before the show. I made a bunch of new friends! I talk to the couple we met there that were from LA on fb regularly.

I think that the location of a concert determines how the fans are more than what band it is.

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What's wrong with Phish Heads?

Also, the last Tool concert that I went to in SD the fans were fine. We had such a great time tailgating before the show. I made a bunch of new friends! I talk to the couple we met there that were from LA on fb regularly.

I think that the location of a concert determines how the fans are more than what band it is.

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finally booked flights! phoenix friday to monday. any of you bastards attending get in touch to meet up for beers if you're going!
where you staying? I'll be in DT Phoenix.
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finally booked flights! phoenix friday to monday. any of you bastards attending get in touch to meet up for beers if you're going!
where you staying? I'll be in DT Phoenix.
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Two things that piss me off during a concert are if people are playing on their phone, or having a loud conversation while the band is playing. It's very distracting and I have no problem telling people to STFU or put their phone away so that I and the people around me can enjoy the show that we paid $75 a ticket for.
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Two things that piss me off during a concert are if people are playing on their phone, or having a loud conversation while the band is playing. It's very distracting and I have no problem telling people to STFU or put their phone away so that I and the people around me can enjoy the show that we paid $75 a ticket for.
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A decent pair of ear plugs via Amazon does a great job of cutting out the chatty catty's around you. I'm currently wearing the Etymotic Research ER20 and walk out of shows feeling great without my head ringing from the show.
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A decent pair of ear plugs via Amazon does a great job of cutting out the chatty catty's around you. I'm currently wearing the Etymotic Research ER20 and walk out of shows feeling great without my head ringing from the show.
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"haha, I don;t really like tool fans either."

Same deal. Its worse than Phish lot. I have to go car to car telling them to shut off the TOOL we are going to see them in 45mins. These fans don't get it and just stare at me like im an immigrant.
You sound like you're a bigger wanker than any Tool fan I've met.
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"haha, I don;t really like tool fans either."

Same deal. Its worse than Phish lot. I have to go car to car telling them to shut off the TOOL we are going to see them in 45mins. These fans don't get it and just stare at me like im an immigrant.
You sound like you're a bigger wanker than any Tool fan I've met.
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You sound like you're a bigger wanker than any Tool fan I've met.
That's just a copy pasta it's meant to be funny. I'm a little crazy but not that crazy!
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That's just a copy pasta it's meant to be funny. I'm a little crazy but not that crazy!
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I need to will and manifest me and my wife going to this show. Its our anniversary. Something has got to give.
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I need to will and manifest me and my wife going to this show. Its our anniversary. Something has got to give.
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3 days until Linkin Park!11!111111
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A decent pair of ear plugs via Amazon does a great job of cutting out the chatty catty's around you. I'm currently wearing the Etymotic Research ER20 and walk out of shows feeling great without my head ringing from the show.
I have the same ones and they are amazing. I can't wait for Saturday - they make the music sound like its still loud as fuck but clear and not distorted. And YES the immediate noise is filtered out well.
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A decent pair of ear plugs via Amazon does a great job of cutting out the chatty catty's around you. I'm currently wearing the Etymotic Research ER20 and walk out of shows feeling great without my head ringing from the show.
I have the same ones and they are amazing. I can't wait for Saturday - they make the music sound like its still loud as fuck but clear and not distorted. And YES the immediate noise is filtered out well.
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I'll be at the show sporting my Elvis costume for my 20th Tool experience.

Can. Not. Wait.

Currently waiting to board for PHX at the ATL airport.

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I'll be at the show sporting my Elvis costume for my 20th Tool experience.

Can. Not. Wait.

Currently waiting to board for PHX at the ATL airport.

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I find it really... disheartening... that I can't off-load two tickets (face value) the day before the show.

I actually figured Maynard's trolling would spark more interest in the show.

So, if anyone needs 'em... PM me.
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I find it really... disheartening... that I can't off-load two tickets (face value) the day before the show.

I actually figured Maynard's trolling would spark more interest in the show.

So, if anyone needs 'em... PM me.
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I actually figured Maynard's trolling would spark more interest in the show.
I'm pretty sure that it did more harm than good. Anybody that was on the fence about Tool is definitely not coming back now. I don't care either way. I can't read any Tool interviews or Blair newsletters until they release a single or something. It's just too depressing to me at this point.

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I actually figured Maynard's trolling would spark more interest in the show.
I'm pretty sure that it did more harm than good. Anybody that was on the fence about Tool is definitely not coming back now. I don't care either way. I can't read any Tool interviews or Blair newsletters until they release a single or something. It's just too depressing to me at this point.

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In the air (finally) - running late Kanaduh - anyway, drink cart is on the way, and I'll try like usual to post real time setlist info and other tidbits about the festival here.
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In the air (finally) - running late Kanaduh - anyway, drink cart is on the way, and I'll try like usual to post real time setlist info and other tidbits about the festival here.
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Just in case you're not aware, Arizona does not fall back time wise.
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Just in case you're not aware, Arizona does not fall back time wise.
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In the air (finally) - running late Kanaduh - anyway, drink cart is on the way, and I'll try like usual to post real time setlist info and other tidbits about the festival here.
Oh bless your ever beating heart, sir
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In the air (finally) - running late Kanaduh - anyway, drink cart is on the way, and I'll try like usual to post real time setlist info and other tidbits about the festival here.
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Hopefully some insight from vip today, and/or pics of merch pop up somewhere!
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Hopefully some insight from vip today, and/or pics of merch pop up somewhere!
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Hopefully some insight from vip today, and/or pics of merch pop up somewhere!
I don't know anyone going to the VIP, so a recap from someone would be sweet. Just don't try to record it... You might get a letter from Alan Jones. You know who I'm talking to :)
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I don't know anyone going to the VIP, so a recap from someone would be sweet. Just don't try to record it... You might get a letter from Alan Jones. You know who I'm talking to :)
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First tool fan spotting. There's a chick dressed in black rockin a tool shirt on my plane.
Don't know why I think it's funny, but NC to PHX for one show is commitment so props to her.
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First tool fan spotting. There's a chick dressed in black rockin a tool shirt on my plane.
Don't know why I think it's funny, but NC to PHX for one show is commitment so props to her.
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saw one last night at 2 brothers brewery in old town Scottsdale...hope to see more during happy hour somewhere before seeing a movie tonight in tempe
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saw one last night at 2 brothers brewery in old town Scottsdale...hope to see more during happy hour somewhere before seeing a movie tonight in tempe
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Yep, there was a guy wearing a puscifer shirt on the plane over from Houston this morning. I'm heading to the VIP event inside of 2 hrs.....
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Yep, there was a guy wearing a puscifer shirt on the plane over from Houston this morning. I'm heading to the VIP event inside of 2 hrs.....
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Just got back from the venue and spoke to a couple of the guys from the local crew . 20,000 tickets were sold for Saturday nights show . I have no fucking idea how they are all going to fit into this park...
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Just got back from the venue and spoke to a couple of the guys from the local crew . 20,000 tickets were sold for Saturday nights show . I have no fucking idea how they are all going to fit into this park...
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Just got back from the venue and spoke to a couple of the guys from the local crew . 20,000 tickets were sold for Saturday nights show . I have no fucking idea how they are all going to fit into this park...
well 20k is the stated max capacity of said park.....

staging setup yet? got pics by chance?
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Just got back from the venue and spoke to a couple of the guys from the local crew . 20,000 tickets were sold for Saturday nights show . I have no fucking idea how they are all going to fit into this park...
well 20k is the stated max capacity of said park.....

staging setup yet? got pics by chance?
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What's it looking like gates wise getting in?
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What's it looking like gates wise getting in?
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well 20k is the stated max capacity of said park.....

staging setup yet? got pics by chance?
Yeah the stage is set up PM your cell for pic
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I met a couple of people on the flight from ABQ going to the show. One of them was UFC fighter Carlos Condit.
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I met a couple of people on the flight from ABQ going to the show. One of them was UFC fighter Carlos Condit.
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i missed my flight this morning. jesus christ what a morning.

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i missed my flight this morning. jesus christ what a morning.

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Don't lose your phone....

And wake up naked next to Adams sound man.
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Just got back from the nighttime test of the new visuals. Definitely a change from 10,000 days Thankfully.
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