I was listening to the collection of songs this morning on the bus ride to school, and i was thinking, what whould YOU have named the "song" if tool had orignally kept it as one track? for me, it would probably be the last of the 3 songs, "Traid"
now let's hear your opinion
and i apolgize for any grammer/spelling errors you have found
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Shall be dubbed Resolution from here on in...I've been trying to get this title familar with Tool fans as of late. If anyone remembers, Resolution was the name of Reflection before it was changed for the delayed release of Lateralus ...I think it fits if you ask me.
Originally posted by carnage039 Shall be dubbed Resolution from here on in...I've been trying to get this title familar with Tool fans as of late. If anyone remembers, Resolution was the name of Reflection before it was changed for the delayed release of Lateralus ...I think it fits if you ask me.
I agree in full. It's a great way to sum up a combination of one's disposition, a reflection of it, and some sort of triad of divinity. I just wish Tool could have put the three indexes under one title on the CD tracklist.
If it were a whole, the boys would have thought up something other than a combination of the names of the tracks as they are now. So I feel they most likely would have had no title close to Reflection Triad or Disposition. Thats what I feel, but if I were to name this song, perhaps... Trilogy.
I think the name would have to show the path to, process of, and state in enlightening. A resolution with ones inner-self, resolving the past problems, a great resolve with the soul.
I may be wrong but I think the song was origanally supposed to be one song. whether or not them splitting it up into three seperate songs has any particular significance or if it was just so there wasnt a 25 minute song on the cd I couldnt say. If I was going to name it anything I'd probably name it syzergy, but thats just cuz i like the word >=).
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Syzergy - concept that jung uses to describe male/female opposition. the tying together of opposites, the energy that comes from the pulling apart of the opposites etc etc. i just like the word >=)
I think that Reflections is the best name for this song trio. The triad has a powerful moving scope of dynamic music, which seems to showcase each member. I wonder if this was done to show how each member feels about this song. Danny gets worked up with disposition and then warms up with reflection in order to meet the polyrythmic rapsodys in which his hands and feet must partake in order to complete triad. Adam takes a break after Lateralus during disposition(album order), and then cranks it up for some cool chords on reflection, and finally a neat tribal feel in triad(with lots of distortion). Justin chills for the first too pretty much and sets down whatever he feels like on triad, it kinda branches a little. Maynard is somber during disposition(it sounds like) but he has hope. Reflection is like a closing statement, just saying, listen to this-its 12 minutes long. Triad is so cool as an instrumental that maynard's vocal modification is not required.
i think its better as 3 songs, with 3 different titles. each title represents in a nutshell the core ideas of the songs, and all of them have totally different ideas and themes, and theres not a name that fits them all. there simply cant be.
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I've seen them three times, and while they played all three songs in order for two of them, there didn't seem to be any tied in theme among the three. maybe I was missing something, I dont know. But I suppose if they considered it one song and didnt get to present it that way on the album, that they WOULD live and I just didnt feel like it was presented that way. Thought Id point out that lil tidbit >=)
I'd name this "song" our cool dream theather kind of song...this three songs have no definite meaning, the "watch the weather change" thing is odd, maybe Maynard was really high when he was writing lyrics...I'd name it "Weather Forecaste"
Why couldn't the 3 songs just be known as "Triad?" "Triad" meens three and they are three songs that go together...so why not just keep the three tracks together as one instead of making them seperate.
King Crimson had a BUNCH of songs that had mulitple names and parts and they left them as ONE SONG. So, why did TOOL break their movement up into three seperate songs?
am i the only person in the world that thinks triad doesn't go well with Disposition and Reflection? I mean, those two are both in 4/4 time and are slower-type emotional songs. triad is in 3 (hence the name) and has no vocals really and not much emotion...i just don't see how it fits the cycle. if they would've made these all one song i think the best possible sequence would be Triad/Disposition/Reflection, after all, shouldn't Reflection be reflecting back on the song....maybe i'm just retarded...
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I agree with Drum_dood from a musical standpoint...it would be good to start strong...then end with a reflective though/idea in the form of reflection.
But if I were to go along with everything having one meaning...perhaps triad is the changing of pace in the journey. Indicated by Maynards change in emotion/school of thought at the end of Reflection...perhaps this could be the next step? It doesn't necessarily have to match our preconceived notions or the experiences we have already been a part of.
I think you beter give it a more powerfull name, like Unity, or Universe. All powerfull things consist of 3 parts, 2 polarized things and the glue between them, like body, brians and mind. Then you could say that Disposition is the relaxed Mind, Reflection is the Brains that are allways thinking and Triad is the brutal and energetic Body
I think the songs are great separated. Of course, knowing Tool, there is a reason for them being separated. And of course, as we all know, we can theorize for days upon weeks...And we will still never know the reason why. And that is why we love Tool. Is it not?
I dont understand why maynard didnt just name the entire trio "Orgasm".
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I think the songs are great separated. Of course, knowing Tool, there is a reason for them being separated. And of course, as we all know, we can theorize for days upon weeks...And we will still never know the reason why. And that is why we love Tool. Is it not?
Record label wanted more tracks. Otherwise it'd look like an EP.
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I would have named it diarrhea. No reason, I just always wanted to hear a good song called diarrhea.
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I think it should be called Triad. It makes sense.
Dictionary.com states that triad is not a word. Hm.
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