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Old 09-30-2006, 09:54 AM   #41
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Re: 2006/09/29 - Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center

ABSOLUTE PERFECTION.......................simply , by far, the GREATEST show I have ever witnessed..................
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My fourth TOOL show. The first since the Lateralus tour. Completely insane. I didn't know you could imporove upon perfection, but somehow they found a way.
I had pretty good seats. Sect 11 It was pretty much right in the center, but almost on the lawn. I thought they sounded bad-ass. To me ,Maynard was on point. I read some reviews that he didn't sound to great, but I thought he sounded as good as ever. My only complaint was that it seemed to be over so quickly. I wish they could just play all nite, but oh well. they Rock more than any other band I have ever heard or witnessed. I can't wait to they come back & do it again!! Wings/10k sounded amazing live, but I expected nothing less!!! I feel lucky to have seen them so many times. They are professional!!! The crowd was the balls too, untill it was time to leave, that sucked a little, but i was on cloud nine, so I wasn't to bothered by it.

P.S. watching Danny Carey play drums, makes me chubby in my pants!!! LOL
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In the beginning he just said "Jesus fucking Christ it's cold"

I guess I was just in a great spot for the sound because i heard it fine.
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This was my 10th Tool show (4th time at Tweeter Center) and honestly, I had my reservations going into the show. But this was probably in the top 3 times I've seen them. I had such a good time.

Highlights:
-The stage/video screens (ALL WHITE) look so amazing.
-The first 3 tunes (Stinkfist, The Pot, Forty-Six & 2) absolutely KILLED.
-Jambi is a great live song.
-The middle part in Schism (aka crystal meth part) adds so much to that tune.
-10K Days is everything I thought it was going to be.
-Lateralus should be the closer. It's one of their most important songs, IMO.
-Aenema is still the tits live.
-Tool (especially Danny and Adam) can reproduce every little sound/nuance just like their records. I love that about them.

Lowlights:
-The overall setlist.
-Rosetta Stoned is a mood killer. The momentum of the show drops during that tune. Plus they ripped themselves off when they wrote it (see Third Eye). Drop that an add 2 other tunes. Shit, I'd rather hear Sober for the 1,236th time.
-MAYNARD'S VOICE. I have had mixed emotions about Tool over the last couple of tours. Maynard used to take chances and I loved that about him. I go back and forth with my feelings regarding his voice. He's lost so much on it and I almost feel like he's become a liability. I hate feeling that way but I can't help it. I love him but yet he's not the same. Plus, he gets sick every fucking tour. The man is obviously not taking care of himself. When I go back and listen to the old shows, he's stellar. I know with age your voice weakens and his peak to me was Lollapalooza in 1997. I listen to those shows and he just absolutely destroys. The entire tour. But it's been almost 10 years since that tour and he'll never sound as good as he did then. So I'll move on.

DANNY CAREY is a human highlight reel. He is the single most important member of that band and never ceases to amaze me. He's the sickest talent on the planet. He, along with Brann Dailor of Mastodon, is the best drummer on the planet. Bravo.

ADAM JONES. Great guitar tone. The one thing I still find amazing is that Tool has such rocking tunes and the guy continues to look like an oil painting on stage. Would it kill you to move around a bit? Your songs rock so hard. MOVE! I know you have plastic knees and shit, but tap your foot or something.

JUSTIN CHANCELLOR. Great stage prescence. GREAT bass tone. Well done.

Again, great time. Thanks Tool. You're still the tops.
You are afraid of Rosetta Stoned - that song is not a mood killer. It is fucked up! The concept between that song and Third Eye is very different. Third Eye is about trying to expand your mind, Rosetta Stoned is well, not about that at all.
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I showed up at 3:30 to tailgate. Amongst dressing in a Tuxedo and cooking a 5 course meal for four of my most beloved friends, I also attended the show in Section 4 Row E seats 8 and 9.

A further description of my tailgating experience would indicate to you that I might just perhaps be a huge fan, not a tailgate junky, but we are here to read about the show, right?

Third show I have seen with my own eyes. Albeit the best band ever, in any dimension you choose, in the words of my best friend, "For the greatest band ever, the show was mediocre at best".

I'm trying hard not to be a dick, but Tool is my Church. The guy who originally posted the first "negative review" was respectful by acknowledging the fact that Tool doesn't OWE him anything. The guy who told him to listen to "Hooker with a Penis" : should die and go to hell : . We understand the same point, and let's try and not be redundant and overdefensive, shall we?

Now for subjectivity: The only other time I was disgusted by a set list was when Pearl Jam came to town and catalogued their show. I didn't know this. I went to the last of 3 shows. And that was the worst setlist I have ever listened to AND paid money to hear it.

This does not mean I am disgusted with the show. Reread the "church" part above.

Ninety minutes? Who are you kidding? Tool doesn't get played on the radio because all their songs are 1.5x to 2x of normal songs. Why don't we take the same equation and apply it applicably (that's for you, you redundant f**k) to the concert side of Tool.

No Encore? Did um.... we forget we are... uh... the best band ever, and that we are playing a "Rock Concert" circa..... 20th Century, give or take 50 years? A little cordial pattern of "entertainment" would be appropriate here. The only other time I was disgusted by !no! encore was watching RATM at woodstock99. However at least we got a little fire at the end of it (they burn a flag, and no, thank you, but I'm IN to this "America" business, so lay off).

The last shows, Maynard was in the back of the stage, dark, hiding. But if you have ever performed while singing, or simply ask someone who has, it may just be the hardest thing a singer ever does: move around while performing. I most admire him for that reason. You can see him channel the music, and channel his soul,

and feed you.

What's my point? He was on that stage like it was another day at the office. Well f**k you too, buddy.

One more bone for my redundant friend, did I mention the setlist? I may not have initially enjoyed the unlubricated sodomy, which some people call "10000 Days", but I'll be that guy who says "It grew on me." I'll never forget the carnal sin, but I'll forgive.

I get it, Tool wants people to hear the new cd. They are touring, probably because they released a cd, thanks for following that particular cookie cutter aspect of "Rock Bands". Appreciated.

Despite my scoffing, for which I apologize, they could have elected to play either Pushit, or yes (sigh), Right In Two, alas they didn't. Why either of these? It's a "Rock Concert" and it happens to be a band calling themselves "Tool". If you know a little about each, you should be able to interpret without further mention, what... exactly... I am indicating. Aenima.... warm.... Wings... warmer... I think you are getting it.

Other than the above, that will be the 5th best show I have ever been to. Kind of hard to f**k that up honestly, if you are Tool. I don't know if what I have just said is a complement or another scoff, again I will apologize.

Final note, I guess it's better to be sodomized by your idol.... than not.
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Re: 2006/09/29 - Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center

This was my fifth Tool concert attended.

[07.07.98 - Mansfield, MA]
[09.21.01 - Mansfield, MA]
[08.16.02 - Boston, MA]
[10.25.02 - Amherst, MA]
[09.29.06 - Manfield, MA]

Tool has always been a great live band. Musically, they're always very consistant, however in a positive light their shows are always uniquely intriguing from one to the next. As always, I enjoyed myself very much.
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Re: 2006/09/29 - Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center

traffic sucked....we missed isis....
where the fuck was the ISIS merch?....anyone?.....anyone?
Excellent show....the bass sound was tinny.....the drums came out absolutley astonishing....i caught some botches....but i love when bands fuck up.....and for some reason i am becoming (and not only me) increasingly, increasingly disappointed with "Tool" fans.....during the Pot, a man turns to my girlfiriend and asks "isn't this an a perfect circle song?" she quickly replied "what are you a fucking idiot, what are you even doing here"......second.... me and my girlfriend went with a good friend of mine and his girlfriend who is 7 months pregnant....yes, his unborn child went to her first tool show, however, as we're standing on the lawn....some fucking ignorant pricks decide there gonna start a mosh during rosetta stoned....(the decline of moshing:now it's become lets just punch each other in the face because we love this music so much,.....WTF????) with total fucking disregard for my friends pregnant girlfriend....pre-marital sex.....internet porn....the lighters were a pretty sweet view....

on another note.....it took us an hour to drive 20 miles from exit 16b to exit 11 due to an accident and some invisible construction that was going on.....i hope those people died.
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Oh just wondering, anyone buy a $60 tshirt? Wow.
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Great show. 2nd row center. Yeah baby!

Isis was alright, if you dig that kind of guitar blasting sound. I have to use earplugs when they play. When they were on stage packing up their gear after the show I yelled “Welcome back to Mass. guys,” and the bassist Jeff Caxide showed his appreciation. Hey, if they’re touring with Tool and have Mass. roots, I’ll show the love.

Funny thing was that when the singer to Isis was screaming, his spit was flying all over the security guards in front. HA! There were like 20 goons in front of the stage and they kept shining flashlights at everyone. There was one guard in front of me who was rocking hard though, so good for him.

The crowd was great. Looking upwards from second row to the lawn area was an awesome sight. The place was packed tight. I didn’t witness a single episode of out-of-control drunken/druggen-ness. Everyone was into it.

I could not hear Maynard AT ALL. Sometimes I would see his lips move but not hear any vocals. That sucked. The rest of the band was loud as hell. I guess the acoustics in Mansfield are good only in some places. I was able to hear him better during Wings and Lateralus. Maynard seemed in a good mood and he was even smiling at times.

Adam aced the talkbox. He played in his socks. His wife was standing right in front of me taking pictures.

I love watching Justin. He played his bass with a bottle of Amstel. He also does some serious head banging at the end of Aenema.

For me the night was all about Danny. Those double bass hits blew vibration right through me. What a fucking feeling that is. His extended pounding at the end of Lateralus left me completely awestruck.

The visuals were great. Some of the lasers came up from the stage floor right in front of us. Awesome. This stage set-up is perfect for an amphitheater venue. I missed a lot of the visuals and other details because I couldn’t keep my eyes off of Danny.

All in all, great show, great crowd. I have fonder memories of the Orpheum show in May though. I was closer to the band in 6th row than I was at this show in 2nd row and the sound and Maynard’s vocals were incredible in the smaller venue.

Tool just rocks. I loved every song. The simple fact is that they are supremely talented composers, musicians and performers and it’s a great experience to hear the music played live.

At the end of the show, Maynard gives a peace sign, makes a fist with a hole with his other hand, sticks a finger in it, pulls it out and points to the side of the stage. Peace. The. Fuck. Out.
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Did anyone catch Maynard changing the chours words in Stinkfist "to we can freeze our balls off "(or something along those lines)? Also, did you catch the 1 second pause in Vicarious, then bam, right back at it!!!!! Sweet.

Musically they were as tight as I've seen them in 7 shows. Personally, I prefer to see them inside, I felt alot of the enregy of the show escapes without a roof.
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I showed up at 3:30 to tailgate. Amongst dressing in a Tuxedo and cooking a 5 course meal for four of my most beloved friends, I also attended the show in Section 4 Row E seats 8 and 9.

A further description of my tailgating experience would indicate to you that I might just perhaps be a huge fan, not a tailgate junky, but we are here to read about the show, right?

Third show I have seen with my own eyes. Albeit the best band ever, in any dimension you choose, in the words of my best friend, "For the greatest band ever, the show was mediocre at best".

I'm trying hard not to be a dick, but Tool is my Church. The guy who originally posted the first "negative review" was respectful by acknowledging the fact that Tool doesn't OWE him anything. The guy who told him to listen to "Hooker with a Penis" : should die and go to hell : . We understand the same point, and let's try and not be redundant and overdefensive, shall we?

Now for subjectivity: The only other time I was disgusted by a set list was when Pearl Jam came to town and catalogued their show. I didn't know this. I went to the last of 3 shows. And that was the worst setlist I have ever listened to AND paid money to hear it.

This does not mean I am disgusted with the show. Reread the "church" part above.

Ninety minutes? Who are you kidding? Tool doesn't get played on the radio because all their songs are 1.5x to 2x of normal songs. Why don't we take the same equation and apply it applicably (that's for you, you redundant f**k) to the concert side of Tool.

No Encore? Did um.... we forget we are... uh... the best band ever, and that we are playing a "Rock Concert" circa..... 20th Century, give or take 50 years? A little cordial pattern of "entertainment" would be appropriate here. The only other time I was disgusted by !no! encore was watching RATM at woodstock99. However at least we got a little fire at the end of it (they burn a flag, and no, thank you, but I'm IN to this "America" business, so lay off).

The last shows, Maynard was in the back of the stage, dark, hiding. But if you have ever performed while singing, or simply ask someone who has, it may just be the hardest thing a singer ever does: move around while performing. I most admire him for that reason. You can see him channel the music, and channel his soul,

and feed you.

What's my point? He was on that stage like it was another day at the office. Well f**k you too, buddy.

One more bone for my redundant friend, did I mention the setlist? I may not have initially enjoyed the unlubricated sodomy, which some people call "10000 Days", but I'll be that guy who says "It grew on me." I'll never forget the carnal sin, but I'll forgive.

I get it, Tool wants people to hear the new cd. They are touring, probably because they released a cd, thanks for following that particular cookie cutter aspect of "Rock Bands". Appreciated.

Despite my scoffing, for which I apologize, they could have elected to play either Pushit, or yes (sigh), Right In Two, alas they didn't. Why either of these? It's a "Rock Concert" and it happens to be a band calling themselves "Tool". If you know a little about each, you should be able to interpret without further mention, what... exactly... I am indicating. Aenima.... warm.... Wings... warmer... I think you are getting it.

Other than the above, that will be the 5th best show I have ever been to. Kind of hard to f**k that up honestly, if you are Tool. I don't know if what I have just said is a complement or another scoff, again I will apologize.

Final note, I guess it's better to be sodomized by your idol.... than not.

i was tailgating VERY close to your group!!!
well unless someone else was cooking in a tuxedo!!!!

you guys had a white canopy correct?
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Yes. Maybe you might have smelled some of the food.

1st Stuffed Red Bell Peppers (crutons+mozzarella+garlicandstuff)
2nd. Kabobs with meat from two rivaling butcher shops.
3rd. Chili. Good.
4th. Artichoke heart&crab leg quesadillas. Fresh everything with mozz.
5th. Bananas Foster. Not my best, but still quite enjoyable.
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Did any of the other girls notice a lot of girls that didn't seem like hardcore TOOL fans? Its hard to say that based on appearance.. but I got the feeling from a lot of the girls there and in the bathroom at one point... anyways...
i noticed that. there wasn't many girls at all. many of them seemed to be accompaning their boyfriends.
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a couple things that have yet to be mentioned.

the thunderstorm effect during 10000 days was fucking amazing. the fog and lights actually made it look like there were clouds and the flashes actually made it look like lightning. wow.

another cool effect was at one point they had those triangular beams of light going over the crowd and they got the light to actually bend in the fog. i don't really see how that happened, probably projecting the lights through some oddly curved lenses or something, but that was fucking cool.

the lazers were really 80's but still awesome.

the sound was amazing. out of the three shows i have seen this one was definitely the best (the other two being the fleet center and tsongas arena shows after lateralus). i hope they come play a general admission show so i can get there 3 hours early and be up front like at tsongas. here's to hoping.

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I hated the crowd. Some guy next to me boo'ed after every damn 10Kdays song (which was most of the night.) After the show, a crowd of drunk guys were lighting stuff on fire and blowing things up right behind my god damn car. I allmost got into a scrap by telling them to nock it off.

Someone here worded the night nicely... mediocre at best. This was my 8th Tool show, and i have seen them do better. My biggest ::sigh:: moment was when Nard sang Rosetta Stoned, which I thought was pretty bad. By like someone else said....a bad Tool show, is still better than most other stuff out there.
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oh man Austin...I wish we had seen you guys...my contingent was starving since we had to leave Provdience at 5, since I knew about the accident, to get to Mansfield.

ohhhh man that sounds so good.
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Amazing show last night. It was my first and i wasnt dissapointed. It was a tad to cold for my liking, but once the band started to play, and i started to rock out, it was wonderful.
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5th tool show. I loved it. Probably the 2nd show yet. From outside the dome youg ot a good view of the light & laser show, and overall apperance of the stage and what not was amazing...I feel like alot of that might have been lost inside the dome. But at the same time it was freezing balls outside the dome, so it wasnt like everything was aces from where i stood. Intop of that, despite the fact that i wasnt that far back, the view seemed like it was a mile away...i believe its cause of the whole layout of that building. Its sprawled out and the incline is so small that a midget with heels could get in your way from 2 rows down. Leaving the lot after the show was silly, no car moved for over an hr. Overall i believe the TWEETER CENTER detracted from the experiance, its just not a very good venue IMO.
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First Tool Show!

Let me start with the bitching....

Fuck these goddamn retarded Mass. drivers....worst traffic I've seen in a while.

Fuck these drunken fratboy type guys and drunk bitches who have to announce everything they feel, and have to be loud and ignorant all through...well...everywhere except where I was sitting..(thank god)

Fuck these fat fucks, and couples who get a shitload of food, and slow everything for everyone, at a TOOL concert. We're not at the movies, or Nascar races...you shouldn't need a sausage sub, nachos, and popcorn to stuff your fat face.

Fuck that loser with the 3 dumb drunk girls, who wouldn't shut their giant fucking mouths in line, and got the last energy drinks.

Fuck the cold weather....

Okay...now with that being said,

The concert kicked fucking ass! Maynard is such a character, and just a fucking riot! With his little kicks, squats, struts, bends and little silly moves, I can't believe he actually took his shirt off in the cold weather, and acted like a penguin, especially with that new mowhawk. I thought that was hilarious when he was warming his hands from Danny drumming.

Maynardisms

"Jesus fucking Christ it's cold."

"You know what would warm me up, some premarital sex...but not with you sir."

"I don't suppose it's legal to start a bonfire is it?"

"I've got to get back to some internet porn."

"Pennsylvania was louder." *Crown gets louder*

"Okay, okay, but you need to brush better, major fuckin' halitosis."

"Peace the fuck out."

I'm sure even though this show kicked ass, I will enjoy the Manchester show better...better seats, indoor venue, knowing what to expect...etc.etc..
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Fuck these fat fucks, and couples who get a shitload of food, and slow everything for everyone, at a TOOL concert. We're not at the movies, or Nascar races...you shouldn't need a sausage sub, nachos, and popcorn to stuff your fat face.
You really don't think that bit was necessary, do you? If the venue sells food/drink, and someone is thirsty/hungry (and have the obscene amount of money (almost 8 fucking dollars for a beer?!)), they should be able to buy the food/drink and be left the fuck alone.
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Stinkfist, The Pot, 46&2, Jambi, Schism, Lost Keys, Rosetta Stoned, Wings for Marie, 10,000 Days, LATERALUS, Vicarious, Aenema

Aside from the random preppy kids who casually listened to TOOL on the radio, with his stupid bleach blond girlfriend by his side; the crowd was absolutely amazing I just thought to myself that these kids were in for a fucking trip. I was dead center middle of the crowd in section 13. The crowd moved as one, if Maynard had told us to destroy the Tweeter Center we would have. The first three songs were astounding. I was surprised by the amount of songs they played off of 10,000 Days but each of them were sick. Rosetta Stoned is one of my favorite songs off the new album, but it is a hard song to perform live...I felt that song could have been replaced by Eulogy or Pushit which are killer live songs.

The overall atmosphere was incredible, the lights, the stars, even the cold New England air all added to the experience. Maynard dressed in his orange hunting jacket and cowboy hat was awesome. Normally he is not as playful and animated but he was having a lot of fun. I still think that Justin is one of the most important and underappreciated members to the overall sound of the band. Adam is a musical genius as always. And Danny played his fucking heart out, still pushing him further into a rare class of untouchable drummers. I was blown away by the overall sound and how close it was to the albums.
The only bad thing about the entire night was the fact that it took us an hour and a half to get out of the parking lot; the tweeter center parking lots need to be redesigned.

Aenema, one of my all-time favorite songs was amazing...everyone around me was singing along to all of the songs the entire night but when they closed with that song it fired everyone up. I loved how they had different introductions for each song almost to the point where the song was unidentifiable until they got into it more. Another sick part of the show was when they worked other chords into songs. They played the first song, Stinkfist, in part of the breakdown they played a few of the opening riffs from Eulogy, which was awesome.

That was by far one of the best shows I’ve been to and TOOL will continue to be the best live band ever. I’ll see you in Manchester!
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ok this was my 8th show, and i thought it was great, but it could have been a lot better... promoting the CD is fine, but give us some sort of variable with the songs not on the album... every show is stinkfist, 46 & 2, schism lateralus and aenima... mix it up! lawn kinda sucked still had a great time, brought 2 kids who were tool virgins and they said it was the best show theyve ever seen... my personal fav show was the oct 2001 show at MSG, but this was a great show.. going to hartford next week, 3rd row, somewhere... not sure i think its off to the right center... cant wait, same show, but im bringing another toolvirgin :-)

PS to the guy whose friend was 7 months pregnant, there was a family section on the lawn, with no drinking smoking or pushing (or other rough fun)... i dont condone the moshing, but that might have been a better area... i know everywhere i was up on that lawn there seemed to be THICK weedsmoke... that probably doesnt help a baby to be either...
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yes it is possible for you to only hear higher sounds if you've done damage to your ears. there are tiny hairs deep within your ear that vibrate along with sound waves to help create what you hear. if they vibrate too much because you're listening to music or anything else too loud, they can become tired and stop vibrating (kind of like going to the gym and lifting weights until you literally can't move the barbell anymore). it's possibly your ears got to the point they could only respond to higher frequencies. i went to a smashing pumpkins concert 10 years ago and by the end of the night billy corgan literally sounded like a cartoon chipmunk to me. as long as you don't do it too often or to too much of an extreme, it will heal itself. if almost the entire show sounded that way to you though, i would suggest wearing ear plugs from now on. yes, it definitely takes something away from the sound, but there are decent ones that don't completely destroy the sound. personally i'd think that would be better than doing permanent damage to your hearing.

there are other ear conditions that could cause these problems but that's the most likely one, and it's also very possible you simply had terrible seats.
ok well im scared of the fact that its my ears but heres some thoughts. i could still hear music fine in the car immediately after. i went in and played aenima and it sounded great. everybody around me (except the kids tripping) thoguht it was fine as well so that rules out the seats (sec5 rowp seats14-17 btw). would this thing you described apply only to extremely loud sounds (such as the concert) but not every piece of music (which is a lot w/ the car ride home) that I've listened to since? also I want some confirmation...was I hearing Isis correctly? People that know their songs...did you hear them extend a lot of it in certain parts? Like keeping certain loops of the song going on for 10seconds or so then coming straight back in? If they didn't do that then something is extremely wrong with me.
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Jesus fucking christ, that was an amazing show.
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It took us almost two and half hours to get there, but it was kinda fun sitting in traffic and yelling out the window to see who else was on their way to the show.

We sat down around 7:30, and I was amazed by how empty the place was. Even after Isis finished (I thought they were pretty bad; the vocals were worthless, and the music sounded kind of repetitive), the place was still mostly empty. It wasn't until ~2 seconds before Tool came on that I looked around and noticed that there were no empty seats.

I got wicked excited when the band came out on stage, but when they launched into Stinkfist, it wasn't as amazing as I had expected it to be. I enjoyed laughing at the people who sang 'I'll keep digging', though. The drum solo in Forty-Six and 2 was great; that was one of the things I had been looking forward to most. Anyway, I didn't really get into the music until 10,000 Days, at the climax ("give me my wings"). I actually thought the lasers were really neat, and was amazed at how bright they were -- a green one hit the pillar behind us, and it lit up the entire section. The non-musical highlight for me was the break, when the lighters were up in the air. Even though it was cliche, it was incredibly powerful to see the entire place alight.
I agree with everyone else who says that Lateralus should be the closing song; it felt like the end of the concert when Lateralus was over. And Jesus, that gong really is loud.
Aenema was probably tied with Lateralus for my favorite song of the night, just because it was last, and it's such a great song. And then at the end, the band hugged and the lights went down... and it was over.

The crowd was pretty good; I could hear them singing on every song (even though they were pretty quiet on songs like Rosetta Stoned or 10k Days, I loved it during Aenema, when everyone was singing at the top of their lungs). There were absolutely no assholes around me (section 5), which I appreciated. However, only three or four people knew the words to every song (myself included). It did seem to me that a lot of girls were there just to be with their boyfriends, which made me angry. I can't really judge, though, because I had to put on a preppy sweatshirt -- the only one I had that was clean -- and I probably looked just like one of those girls.


Overall, probably the best night of my entire life.
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It did seem to me that a lot of girls were there just to be with their boyfriends, which made me angry. I can't really judge, though, because I had to put on a preppy sweatshirt -- the only one I had that was clean -- and I probably looked just like one of those girls.
I agree...there were two girls right behind me that were only there for like 10 minutes and kept leaving in the middle.

I expect a Tool concert to be mostly males, but we were really represented badly last night. And in my case, I'd have to drag my boyfriend with me ;)

Section 4, near the top...sound was amazing! I wish the setlist was more varied from the spring tour, but I'm not complaining.
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Oh just wondering, anyone buy a $60 tshirt? Wow.
i got the $70 hoodie.
i figured once i paid $60 for a long sleeve apc shirt, that 10 more for a zip up wasn't too bad.

these prices were more than the club dates though, yeah?
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It took me 2 hours to get there, and I got cuaght in the middle of a motorcycle and 6-7 cop car chase in Mansfield center, but it was quite worth the effort to see my first Tool show.

I had to enjoy some drunk ramblings, and some goddamn retarded heavy girls dancing like...tools...for a bit, but it was otherwise wonderful. No serious assholes, though.

I enjoyed Isis, and the Maynardisms, and the visuals, but the drum and bass show was perfect. Danny hit every note and then a few more. The extra fills at the end of 46&2 where great. I'm a bass player, so I was watchign Justin very closely, and I was really impressed by his ability to reporoduce his tones live. Everytime he'd come through extra clear when the guitar wasn't roaring, I'd shit myself just a little.

I was in 10 E, on the aisle with friends, and we couldn't see Adam becuase of a pole. But he doesn't do much, so I didn't mind. I liked Justin's extra rocking out...he never used to do that.

My hand hurts from pounding the seats. Great show.
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You really don't think that bit was necessary, do you? If the venue sells food/drink, and someone is thirsty/hungry (and have the obscene amount of money (almost 8 fucking dollars for a beer?!)), they should be able to buy the food/drink and be left the fuck alone.

I didn't bother anyone, I was just extremely annoyed because I just wanted water, and maybe an energy drink, and have to wait for these people to fill their fat faces when I paid to see Tool, not wait in a food line.
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ok now I am seriously confused. I think my ears are fucked up. And that is a problem. I was in section 5 row P and everything sounded horrible. It didnt sound like Tool. The guitar sounded too high. The levels were all off...I don't know enough about music production to really pin it down. It did NOT sound like the album and I DONT get why. I went to the orpheum show and it sounded absolutely amazing. I listened to Aenima as soon as I got to the car...and it sounded NOTHING like what I had just heard. Is it possible there is a bad couple of seats in the tweeter center? I really am at a loss. I came 6 hours for this show all the way from college.
Dude, I went to school for recording, have judged car audio contests and now professionally tune home theater rooms. From where I was, VIP in Sec3 (I was invited only a few hours before the show) the sound started off with a bit too much kick drum. Other than that, it sounded infinitely better than the Orpheum (of course I was in the boiling balcony for that one). For the very loud volume, the system was clear and full. After a while, I didn't hear the kick as loud, but that could have been my ears compensating.
It totally possible for there to be "dead spots" in the arena, and that's really prevalent with bass.
I'm sorry that you had that experience - that's gotta suck.
I've been reading all different sound quality opinions on these pages. If it ain't the drugs, then it's gotta be the place.
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I agree...there were two girls right behind me that were only there for like 10 minutes and kept leaving in the middle.

I expect a Tool concert to be mostly males, but we were really represented badly last night. And in my case, I'd have to drag my boyfriend with me ;)

Section 4, near the top...sound was amazing! I wish the setlist was more varied from the spring tour, but I'm not complaining.


noticed a lot of that too... girls if u dont like tool dont make your boyfriends take you! even saw a domestic dispute about it in the parking lot afterwards.. over an hour long!!
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the show was, as always incredible! the crowd was real cool. brought grif, my 11year old son. his first show!! wanted to thank frank and his friends, grif loved ya. also the girls katelyn and her friends, grif already told all his friends about you wonderful ladies by the time we got out of the lot. this is my ninth show and they rock, just fucking rock. unbelivable.
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ok well im scared of the fact that its my ears but heres some thoughts. i could still hear music fine in the car immediately after. i went in and played aenima and it sounded great. everybody around me (except the kids tripping) thoguht it was fine as well so that rules out the seats (sec5 rowp seats14-17 btw). would this thing you described apply only to extremely loud sounds (such as the concert) but not every piece of music (which is a lot w/ the car ride home) that I've listened to since? also I want some confirmation...was I hearing Isis correctly? People that know their songs...did you hear them extend a lot of it in certain parts? Like keeping certain loops of the song going on for 10seconds or so then coming straight back in? If they didn't do that then something is extremely wrong with me.
it's possible your ears had adjusted enough by the time you got back to the car that the cd sounded fine. considering you had no problems listening to it then i would not worry at all about any ear damage. welcome to my hell as a med student though. the more you know, the more problems you think you have. like a previous poster mentioned, you probably just got stuck in a dead zone or something....that or your standards are just much higher than the people around you who you questioned.
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I didn't bother anyone, I was just extremely annoyed because I just wanted water, and maybe an energy drink, and have to wait for these people to fill their fat faces when I paid to see Tool, not wait in a food line.
The fucking place has bubblers you jackass. Besides, if you want something from the vendor, you need to wait in line just like everybody else.

Ya know what pisses me off? Trying to walk some place, and people waiting in line to get water and energy drinks block the flow of traffic. I paid to see Tool, I didnt pay for a human labyrinth to walk through.
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it's possible your ears had adjusted enough by the time you got back to the car that the cd sounded fine. considering you had no problems listening to it then i would not worry at all about any ear damage. welcome to my hell as a med student though. the more you know, the more problems you think you have. like a previous poster mentioned, you probably just got stuck in a dead zone or something....that or your standards are just much higher than the people around you who you questioned.
unfortuinately i think i figured out the problem. the music in the car just wasnt loud enough. i definitely have ear damage. i listened to tool as loud as my computer's stereo can go (without distortion/mess ups of its own) and i experienced some issues. it wasnt anything i described above...it was actually pain in my ear that i was experiencing. it happened again today and now im really angry that this had to happen to me. i dont know what did it, i never experineced this before and now im pretty sure it was happeneing during isis as well so i dont know what triggered it. im going to have to get my ears checked. i really hope this can be fixed. while still incredible at lower volumes, tool and other music at the volume i currently cant hear correctly is THAT much better. this absolutely sucks.
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Show was very well performed . The band was excellent . I liked the set list completley. I would have picked different songs before I saw the show, but having seen the show , I have a new appreciation for some songs that weren't on my listening list. Its like the APC tour, when I listened to vanishing on the cd I thought what the hell is this, but what a great song to start the show once I saw it performed. The sound was amazing from where I was. Maynards voice, the mixing, bass , drums ,guitar voice box, everything. I was in the cheap seats , almost to the lawn. It wasn't loud enough there. I cupped my hands behind my ears to increase the volume. I like it loud. Sure am glad I have good seats for the NY show. "lets wrap this up, if there isn't going to be any premarital sex, I've got to get back to internet porn", Maynard was really on , the moves were cool. Peace out.
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I've seen them in mansfield and the fleet during their lateralus tour, and the show from last night was personally my favorite. I thought the sound was great, and the overall show too.
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Let me just say that I really enjoyed this show. The setlist was fairly predictable but very solid, and I thought the show sounded on point. I agree with some posters that Rosetta Stoned kind of killed the momentum a little bit, but the end bit was great. I'm from CT, so my friends had to drive quite a ways, but it was definitely worth it. I must say that I expected to encounter a lot of mass-holes, and I don't mean to knock the great state of MA, but there were quite a few. I talked to some cool people around me, but there were about 12 bros in the row in front of me, drunk off their asses and screaming while they shoved each other in excitement. After a song or two I just moved because I didn't want to get into a tussle telling them to calm down and watch the show. Why was the merch so ridiculously expensive? I've never seen band merchandise that expensive before at any of the shows I've attended.
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My 6th tool show!

Drove 3 1/2 hours to go!

"Jesus fucking christ it's cold!"


This was prob. the second best tool show i have seen (First is hammerstien ballroom NYC 2001). all the visuals for there shows just keep getting better and better just as the band does, "Schism on crack" as people have called it was kick ass!,Wings and 10,000 days were as amazing as everyone had said they were. The highlight of the show for me was lateralus, just because there was so much energy from the whole crowd from the front to the back!. All and all it was a killer show!
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Show was super kick ass, other then a few meat heads (who didnt even catch the irony of themselves) That will be the last time I go to the Tweeter Ctr after the first week of sep. I was so cold after....

Were the shirts made out of gold and pixy dust? Ive never seen gouging like that...then again I usally go to punk shows where you can get a T for like 5-10 bucks :P

Must say the "lustmord" part in wings 2 was reall neat...the visuals for it rocked...

Seemed that maynerd was also chatty, Seen him a copla times before and he said maybe 5 words....

"since there isnt any prematial sex going on im going to my internet porn"

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noticed a lot of that too... girls if u dont like tool dont make your boyfriends take you! even saw a domestic dispute about it in the parking lot afterwards.. over an hour long!!
those people in the car? they were both freaking, and he's llike YOU RUINED IT FOR ME!!!!!!! and punching himself in the face?

i was gonna hand em a doobie, but didnt need to get my face caved.
tool already melted it off anyway
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