Would make most sense to me. "Silence legion, say your praise".

But I think I heard live pretty clear poison.

Maynard did not name the song "Jam-buy" because of he humorously mispronounced anything (or for any other reason). He named the song Jambi (click the audio link). I could buy your theory if "Jambi" were a made up word, but it's not. It's a very real word about a very real place that bears a striking similarity to the lyrics in the song. That's just too big of a coincidence to ignore.

I can positively say that after the show I went to tonight (Hammersmith Apollo London, 13th June) I'm 100% sure that it's "Jambi Eyes". Maynard made a special emphasis on this when pronouncing it. If you watched his mouth move it was clearly "Jambi eyes".

Too bad you're wrong eh?

I can't wait for the lyrics to be released.

its damn my eyes, jam my eyes, dim my eyes in that order.

thats what maynard sung live

You are probably right. I'm willing to accept the indonesian reference, as it is the most blatant. As cryptic as this song/title is, its easy to provoke different explanations though. Thats all I'm doing.

Well, thanks for the concession, but I don't see what's so "cryptic." As you say, "the Indonesian reference . . . is most blatant." So even though the word was not one with which we were familiar, it is one with a clear, concise connotation- thus not cryptic at all.

Well, but there is not only this use of the word "Jambi". There are a few more I think. What I think why it's called like that is first maybe just because they heard "Dim my eyes" and thought that sounds like "Jambi" (spoken wrong), or because, like someone said, like "Jam 2", because it's the second song, and Adam keeps saying they made the album out of jams. But then again, there is the "benevolent sun" thing, with that indonesian god or something like that. But I don't know what the rest of the song should have to do with that.

In fact if you're trying to make it make sense... here's what I've heard:

"Sheltered the Devil with my song..."

While I'm at it...

"Treasures IN Flesh never few..."

here from the king's mountain view
here from the wild dream come true
feast like a sultan i do
on treasures and flesh never few

but i
i would
wish it
all away
if i
thought i'd
lose you
just one day

the devil and his hand me downs
in love with the dark side i've found
dabbling all the way down
up to my neck soon to drown

but you change that all for me
lifted me up turned me around

so i
i
i
i

i would
i would
i would
wish this all away

fret like a martyr dusk til dawn
beg like a hooker all night long
tempted the devil with my song
and got what i wanted all along

but i
i would
if i could
i would

wish it away
wish it away
wish it all away
wanna wish wish it all away
no passion could hold sway
kneeling away my sin

and so if i could i'd wish it all away
if i thought tomorrow
would take you away

you're my peace of mind
my om
i said i'm just trying to hold on
one more day

damn my eyes
damn my eyes

damn my eyes
if they should compromise
or falter
want and need divide me
then i might as well be gone

How about "in love with the dark side I fell"?

actually its:

"...songs..."

aslo:

[Divide and wither away] X2

should be:

"divided and withering away"

I definately hear a " found".

is the lyrics damn my eyes or dim my eyes? maynard is notorious for making words hard to interpret while singing and this one i just cant put my finger on....any thoughts?

yes, 5 billion thoughts. scroll up, search.

While most of the lyrics posted above are a mess, after going back and listening I like the "[whatever] my eyes if they should compromise or falter" The Seattle bootless seems to reinforce that pronunciation.

edit: But the original sounds like "our fulcrum." Fuck if I know...

Another thought about this passages:

You're my peace of mind, my all/whatever
I said I'm just trying to hold on, one more day

It really sounds like he says "om" (phonetically). I thought ohm at first, but that makes absolutely no sense, as I don't think MJK is singing about impedence. A trip to our friend over at Wikipedia reveals that Om (or Aum) is particularly important in Hinduism and Buddhism.


An excerpt for those too lazy to actually read the Wiki:

But it makes no sense, does it? I could hear a fell there.

Um, yes, 'found' there does make sense.

"In love with the dark side I'd found."

He found the dark side and fell in love with it, why doesn't that make sense?

Ok, maybe it's not plural...

but the point here is that I've heard "sheltered the devil with my songs"... am I the only one?

Every time I listen to it, I definitely hear:

Damn my eyes
Jambi eyes
Dim my eyes if they should compromise...

There's no way all three are either "dim" or "damn." Sounds like he switches, to me.

Didn't think of that.

I disagree. The song/title is cryptic. Just because you think you know what it means, does not mean that you are correct.

Just continue to take it at face value. That's what you seem to be doing. I'll say it again...the Indonesian Province reference is the most blatant. If I fully believed that, I wouldn't be searching through these threads for insight.

I never said that I was infallibly correct. Still, the title is not cryptic. Before this turns into a syntax debate, I will leave this particular argument by again quoting the inimitable Inigo Montoya . . . "That word, I do not think it means what you think it means."

From what I have heard (and of course this might not be true) Maynard finally reached the goal he had of becoming a wealthy and famous artist. He had an addiction to something like drugs or alcohol and his child was catalyst for getting himself back together. So the Jambi thing could quite possibly be a character on a show that his child liked.
I am new to this forum. I should have signed up a long time ago, I like it. I am sure most of you know this but there is a book that I think they used to get alot of song ideas for past albums called "Nothing is this book is true, but it's exactly how things are" I read it a few years back and it puts alot of parts of the music into perspective.

Whatever. How about the Christopher Guest sighting in that movie?

Ah, Count Rugen, the six-fingered man . . .

"My name . . . is Inigo Montoya . . . You killed my father . . . Prepare to DIE!"

Well, the term/word Jambi means 'wish' in some language that I don't care to reference right now because I'm too lazy too look it up again, but I assure you that I did once before.

That stated, he doesn't have to be saying "Jambi eyes" to incorporate the title of the song into the song itself. The song is a wish. Jambi means wish. So to say 'Jambi eyes' would mean 'wish eyes' - and that makes no damn sense.

It's either dim or damn. Either makes sense and it sounds as though it could be either, so until Mr. Keenan graces us with the real lyrics, it doesn't matter. They both fit and are both equally likely. It's one of those ones that we may as well just let go untilt he official release. Sing whichever one you hear.

It's *not* 'Jambi eyes,' however.

Well, if jambi does mean "wish" in some language, then theoretically he could be saying "jambi-ize" as that would be the process of wishing something.


Apparently everyone would rather argue about that then perhaps take a look at the post above that sheds some light onto a piece of the lyrics that hasn't been completely decided upon yet. Clearly, continuing the argument over jambi/damn/dim is much more productive.

:shrug:

"Mawwage. Mawwage is what bwings us togever...When wove twue wove..." Can I interest anybody in a mutton, lettuce, and tomato sandwich?

Only if the mutton is nice and lean.

What?

One of the greatest movies of all time.

You don't know?

"INCONCEIVABLE!"

Ah, sorry, I thought we were in the Jambi lyric thread, not in the "post movie quotes without mentioning the title or saying why you post them" thread.

Woah. I'm not ripping you, it's from "The Princess Bride," and the "INCONCEIVABLE" bit was a line from the movie, too. Sorry for all the unrelated posts, but the first reference was explained. Anywho, you should watch The Princess Bride (or read it), but keep in mind that you would enjoy it much more had you seen it at a younger age.

Well I'm 15. Young enough?