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You must have been out your mind.

Listen to more of Bill's comedy and you will start rto understand where this martyrdom idea comes in. He flat out refused to compromise his stance on anything at the expense of what could have been an illustrious career.

thinking that Eulogy is "about" anyone in particular is irresponsible

It may be irresponsible, but, I had thought it was the "getting rid of" Paul D'Amour, hence: "Get off your fucking cross, we need the fucking space..", and then depicting Justin coming into the band, hence: "To nail the next fool martyr..".


-Andrew

funny thread...

i may not be well regarded by any of you yet but i would like to add my two cents anyway. if u can say that jambi is about hitler you can say it is about any dictator/ruler/president/ in the history of the world. i think there is more of a personal/relationship meaning to the song. in my opinion this song is about being at a certain place in ones life and attaining a certain level of being/living and the one person who was responsible for the support, guidance and nurturing (in maynards case his mother) it took to get to that level, is being lost. I think its about dealing with the loss of someone who has lifted from the bottom and been your rock . the person responsible for the strength you have in yourself. losing that isnt worth anything you have because of it....


by the way...bill hicks and jesus are the same being, think about it

I must disagree. I think people are going a little overboard with the mom/kid theme in this album. Wings is about mom right? It doesn't mean the rest of the album is as well... It isn't about Hitler either....
M.

my point being i think it was mom /son in his case but the lyrics, in my opinion, touch upon loss and/or dealing with mortality, or the loss of a definative relationship

jambi is about my son

eulogy is about my father

i dunno where all this crap about, maynard james keenan, bill hicks, jesus and hitler is coming from. i don't even know them for chrissakes

by the way, while we're on this sort of subject, Right in Two is about this problem I had in the Express Lane at the local grocery store back in '03. Fuggin guy took half a bag of tortellini from me... or was it ravioli?

Invoking Godwin's Law in the thread title? Not bad.

That just goes to show that Godwin's law is wrong . . .

lol. I didn't see this, sorry.

did you guys READ that eulogy is "about" L. Ron Hubbard? Or did you just deduce that? Because that'd be kind of a dissapointment for me. He's not that important of a person, why would the band focus that much on him? Plus that doesn't really fit with a lot of the lyrics, IMHO. and i think jambi is about maynard, not hitler.

A destructive inspiration...

Nah.

Even if god, uhm, sorry Maynard wrote the lyrics to be universal for everybody, there is still a meaning to it from Maynard. And I wanna know it. I won't say "it's about my glass of apple juice".

Um, Eva Braun ring a bell?

There is possible evidence pointing to that Hitler was gay and the wife was a cover up or good friend because he didnt want to show any weaknesses.

He wasn't a homosexual, he was a sado-masochist, meaning he got sexual pleasure from pain inflicted on either him, the person he was having the sex with, or both.

haha

maybe it is about his son

i say youre on drugs. hitler? come the fuck on man. but at least you can think i guess. just think about what youre thinking about.

i think oneredflag is right, or maybe it is one of those songs like H.

Eulogy is about Henry Rollins

It has to be about him or Grape Ape .

Because Grape Ape had alot of nothing to say .

Wasn't Hitler a vegetarian?

You could apply this to any one who is evil and has a change of heart...

Hell, I could put events of my life in there and it would make just as much sense...

Hitler had two girlfriends before he married Eva Braun, and they both committed suicide. One jumped off of a building, and the other shot themself. That's why Hitler became a vegetarian, because he said that meat reminded him of his dead girlfriend's corpse. I believe he had a third girlfriend that also committed suicide, but I'm not entirely sure.

Jeez, do you guys just make this crap up? He was a vegetarian because he thought meat was unhealthy and caused him lots of stomach problems.

There's not much known about Hitler's sexlife, but that's just because he was a very asexual person. He very likely was

- not gay
- not a sado-masochist
- not involved in many sexual relations besides Eva Braun (and even they would sleep in separate beds)

he was a pre-modern 40 yr old virgin

It's about not over analyzing...

Damn you called it.

It's been quoted that it's not just about L. Ron. All matyrs according to Danny[?].


Back on topic, i really doubt this is about Hitler.. we all have our own thoughts about songs but i'll have to say this one is way too far off.

Ok smart guy, because I didn't do a 15 minute speech about him in speech class, quoted from one of many sites, this particular one being from www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk; "One consequence of Geli's (his ex-girlfriend who shot herself) suicide was that Hitler became a vegetarian. He claimed that meat now reminded him of Geli's corpse." While I'm not contradicting your statement, saying that it's incorrect, because yours is also true I believe, it doesn't mean that was the only reason why he didn't eat meat.

fair enough

Bill Hicks did NOT die of lung cancer, he died of cancer of the pancreas. Which, from what I've read, is linked to smoking also......but nevertheless, for the sake of accuracy, just wanted to clear that up.

Would like to say more, but I am going outside to smoke.

Pancreatic cancer is also one of the most aggressive types of cancer, and has one of the lowest recovery rates. It is, basically, incurable.

And by the way, nice theory (not really), but Jambi has nothing to do with Hitler, as far as I can telll.

All cancer is incurable.

that's the spirit! :D

Not necessarily. People do survive cancer, more today than ever before, so that would indicate it can be cured. Maybe sent into remission, don't know (won't know).