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"fragile is at best your desire to believe in -angels in the hearts of man
pull your head on out your head (created?) ....give a listen
shouldn't have to say it all again
the universe is hostile- so impossible -devour to survive- so it is.. so it's alway been
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Re: 01 - Vicarious lyrics

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"fragile is at best your desire to believe in -angels in the hearts of man
pull your head on out your head (created?) ....give a listen
shouldn't have to say it all again
the universe is hostile- so impossible -devour to survive- so it is.. so it's alway been
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I still think it's "graven ground" not "grave and ground".
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I still think it's "graven ground" not "grave and ground".
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And you do know?
Yep. I'm writing it down for the whole world to see.
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I still think it's "graven ground" not "grave and ground".
That's another version of this line I haven't seen yet.

First up, I looked up "graven". It's a word. Yeah, I guess it could fit.

Second, went back with headphones and windows media player, played with the equalizer, and even slowed it down a few times. And what I'm hearing, and probably what you're hearing is:

"...on grave an' ground"

And since there's no hard and clear "d" in "an[d]", you're probably interpreting it as "graven".

But, for sure (fo sho'), there's an "A" sound, not an "E" sound, after "grave".

Thus, we have "grave and ground"; not "graven ground".

I'm liking these new words. Expanding my vocabularly.
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I still think it's "graven ground" not "grave and ground".
That's another version of this line I haven't seen yet.

First up, I looked up "graven". It's a word. Yeah, I guess it could fit.

Second, went back with headphones and windows media player, played with the equalizer, and even slowed it down a few times. And what I'm hearing, and probably what you're hearing is:

"...on grave an' ground"

And since there's no hard and clear "d" in "an[d]", you're probably interpreting it as "graven".

But, for sure (fo sho'), there's an "A" sound, not an "E" sound, after "grave".

Thus, we have "grave and ground"; not "graven ground".

I'm liking these new words. Expanding my vocabularly.
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"I AM the TV"?

tragedy thrills ME --- as the personified TV, it makes more sense than anything else... also gives a reason for the list of "programmes" or "flavors" as it were that follow...


ALSO...
best thing I've heard suggested:
(Still have the transmitt[al/er]
Synched to the death rattle)

best sense and can hear every word...

finis.
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Re: 01 - Vicarious lyrics

"I AM the TV"?

tragedy thrills ME --- as the personified TV, it makes more sense than anything else... also gives a reason for the list of "programmes" or "flavors" as it were that follow...


ALSO...
best thing I've heard suggested:
(Still have the transmitt[al/er]
Synched to the death rattle)

best sense and can hear every word...

finis.
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...Or just possibly an octive lower. Anyway, I woudl ordinarily let the thread die, but I noticed that there actaully seem to be two sound loops going on simultaneously; one on the left which is louder, and another on the right, which is quieter, and seems to be a different voice. Would anyone konw if this is true, orif they're jsut the same but played back at adifferent speed? I seriously can't hear a thing either of them are saying, all i konw is that they sound different to my ears.
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...Or just possibly an octive lower. Anyway, I woudl ordinarily let the thread die, but I noticed that there actaully seem to be two sound loops going on simultaneously; one on the left which is louder, and another on the right, which is quieter, and seems to be a different voice. Would anyone konw if this is true, orif they're jsut the same but played back at adifferent speed? I seriously can't hear a thing either of them are saying, all i konw is that they sound different to my ears.
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i hear "Eyes on the TV"
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i hear "Eyes on the TV"
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i hear "Eyes on the TV"
definitely don't hear "S" in EYES... and I've tried to hear anything other than I AM, but it always comes out that way --- no EYE ON or I OWN, pretty sure it's an M I hear, not an N
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i hear "Eyes on the TV"
definitely don't hear "S" in EYES... and I've tried to hear anything other than I AM, but it always comes out that way --- no EYE ON or I OWN, pretty sure it's an M I hear, not an N
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STILL like a zombie (has sounded that way to me for a week)?

and I keep hearing an F sound during "Blood like rain (Fr)om[?] down" --- anyone else?
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STILL like a zombie (has sounded that way to me for a week)?

and I keep hearing an F sound during "Blood like rain (Fr)om[?] down" --- anyone else?
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definitely don't hear "S" in EYES... and I've tried to hear anything other than I AM, but it always comes out that way --- no EYE ON or I OWN, pretty sure it's an M I hear, not an N
So then it's... "I ohm the TV"?
A tribute to Georg Ohm? :P

No, it's an "n". And I'm all for the "Eye on the TV" because he's eagerly wanting to witness human tragedy.

However, it keep hearing "own". I'm not saying the line is "I own the TV" (or even "I pwn the TV"), but every bloody time I hear it, I hear the "o" sound associated with "own" and not "on".

Contrary to what I believe in decyphering lyrics, I'm gonna have to say that maybe although it sounds like "own", it's either mispronounced, or there's an instrument effect that's distorting the "o" vowel. But just by saying this, it immediately throws everything I hear into question and confusion.

But I'll try listening to it a few more times.
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definitely don't hear "S" in EYES... and I've tried to hear anything other than I AM, but it always comes out that way --- no EYE ON or I OWN, pretty sure it's an M I hear, not an N
So then it's... "I ohm the TV"?
A tribute to Georg Ohm? :P

No, it's an "n". And I'm all for the "Eye on the TV" because he's eagerly wanting to witness human tragedy.

However, it keep hearing "own". I'm not saying the line is "I own the TV" (or even "I pwn the TV"), but every bloody time I hear it, I hear the "o" sound associated with "own" and not "on".

Contrary to what I believe in decyphering lyrics, I'm gonna have to say that maybe although it sounds like "own", it's either mispronounced, or there's an instrument effect that's distorting the "o" vowel. But just by saying this, it immediately throws everything I hear into question and confusion.

But I'll try listening to it a few more times.
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STILL like a zombie (has sounded that way to me for a week)?

and I keep hearing an F sound during "Blood like rain (Fr)om[?] down" --- anyone else?
Yeah, I could see where you're coming from with the "Still like a zombie". I heard it too for the longest time. But why would you "Still like a zombie into the TV"? Can you "Still into a TV"? Thus I went back and listened (and relistened again and again, with various effects added/subtracted etc).

It's the "L" from "like" that's throwing most people off. And the word "Stare" (because while you can't "still" into a TV, you can "Stare" into a TV. And Zombies have that weird stare, too. A blank one at that.) has some kind of weird emphasis (I'm not an english major) that makes it all run together in the weirdest places.

I assure you, it's "stare".

As with "From down", it's "come down". There's a sharp "c" sound (or K sound, it doesn't matter with phonetics there) right before "ome".

But the way he says "...rain come down...", I can see why you might hear a "fr" sound. It's one of those things where if you really search for it, you'll hear it. Trick of the mind there.
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STILL like a zombie (has sounded that way to me for a week)?

and I keep hearing an F sound during "Blood like rain (Fr)om[?] down" --- anyone else?
Yeah, I could see where you're coming from with the "Still like a zombie". I heard it too for the longest time. But why would you "Still like a zombie into the TV"? Can you "Still into a TV"? Thus I went back and listened (and relistened again and again, with various effects added/subtracted etc).

It's the "L" from "like" that's throwing most people off. And the word "Stare" (because while you can't "still" into a TV, you can "Stare" into a TV. And Zombies have that weird stare, too. A blank one at that.) has some kind of weird emphasis (I'm not an english major) that makes it all run together in the weirdest places.

I assure you, it's "stare".

As with "From down", it's "come down". There's a sharp "c" sound (or K sound, it doesn't matter with phonetics there) right before "ome".

But the way he says "...rain come down...", I can see why you might hear a "fr" sound. It's one of those things where if you really search for it, you'll hear it. Trick of the mind there.
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Yeah, I could see where you're coming from with the "Still like a zombie". I heard it too for the longest time. But why would you "Still like a zombie into the TV"? Can you "Still into a TV"? Thus I went back and listened (and relistened again and again, with various effects added/subtracted etc).

It's the "L" from "like" that's throwing most people off. And the word "Stare" (because while you can't "still" into a TV, you can "Stare" into a TV. And Zombies have that weird stare, too. A blank one at that.) has some kind of weird emphasis (I'm not an english major) that makes it all run together in the weirdest places.

I assure you, it's "stare".
Think I got you on the COME DOWN line, but it still sounds like STILL to me... here's my take:

STARE like a junkie
into the TV
STILL like a zombie
while the mother holds her child...

the STARE is from the junkie, fizated on the TV and the STILL is sitting still (like a zombie - frozen, unmoving) while watching the mother hold her dying child... no emotion/blank/frozen

hence why I continue to think it's STILL
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Yeah, I could see where you're coming from with the "Still like a zombie". I heard it too for the longest time. But why would you "Still like a zombie into the TV"? Can you "Still into a TV"? Thus I went back and listened (and relistened again and again, with various effects added/subtracted etc).

It's the "L" from "like" that's throwing most people off. And the word "Stare" (because while you can't "still" into a TV, you can "Stare" into a TV. And Zombies have that weird stare, too. A blank one at that.) has some kind of weird emphasis (I'm not an english major) that makes it all run together in the weirdest places.

I assure you, it's "stare".
Think I got you on the COME DOWN line, but it still sounds like STILL to me... here's my take:

STARE like a junkie
into the TV
STILL like a zombie
while the mother holds her child...

the STARE is from the junkie, fizated on the TV and the STILL is sitting still (like a zombie - frozen, unmoving) while watching the mother hold her dying child... no emotion/blank/frozen

hence why I continue to think it's STILL
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Think I got you on the COME DOWN line, but it still sounds like STILL to me... here's my take:

STARE like a junkie
into the TV
STILL like a zombie
while the mother holds her child...

the STARE is from the junkie, fizated on the TV and the STILL is sitting still (like a zombie - frozen, unmoving) while watching the mother hold her dying child... no emotion/blank/frozen

hence why I continue to think it's STILL
Hmm.

There IS a notable difference between the junkie line and the zombie lne. That difference which I speak of are the length of each "ST" word, whether or not they are "stare" or "still". I could arguably say that what you are hearing as "still" couldn't simply be a faster way of "stare" that's sung, bluring the "R" of "stare" with the "L" of "like".

I could also argue that zombies are not still. They are infact quite mobile, which makes them feared. In some classic zombie movies, the trait of the Undead vs the Regular dead is that they Undead get up and walk around. The regular dead just sit there. Of course, in other classic zombies, ALL the dead are "undead", and so all walk around.
The 2004 release of "Dawn of the Dead" had the zombies running, sometimes faster than living humans. That's as far from being still as you could get. However, their glazed-over stare can hardly be missed. Contacts are often used to get this stare.

However, and in all honesty, the junkie line could go either way if I listen with my ears. Thus, I really cannot persuade you audibly on this one. The only thing that tips the scales for me are this:
1)Repetition of lines are not uncommon. They strengthen a particular idea or use of imagery.
2)Zombies are actually quite mobile. Their stare is also uncanny.

*shrugs*
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Think I got you on the COME DOWN line, but it still sounds like STILL to me... here's my take:

STARE like a junkie
into the TV
STILL like a zombie
while the mother holds her child...

the STARE is from the junkie, fizated on the TV and the STILL is sitting still (like a zombie - frozen, unmoving) while watching the mother hold her dying child... no emotion/blank/frozen

hence why I continue to think it's STILL
Hmm.

There IS a notable difference between the junkie line and the zombie lne. That difference which I speak of are the length of each "ST" word, whether or not they are "stare" or "still". I could arguably say that what you are hearing as "still" couldn't simply be a faster way of "stare" that's sung, bluring the "R" of "stare" with the "L" of "like".

I could also argue that zombies are not still. They are infact quite mobile, which makes them feared. In some classic zombie movies, the trait of the Undead vs the Regular dead is that they Undead get up and walk around. The regular dead just sit there. Of course, in other classic zombies, ALL the dead are "undead", and so all walk around.
The 2004 release of "Dawn of the Dead" had the zombies running, sometimes faster than living humans. That's as far from being still as you could get. However, their glazed-over stare can hardly be missed. Contacts are often used to get this stare.

However, and in all honesty, the junkie line could go either way if I listen with my ears. Thus, I really cannot persuade you audibly on this one. The only thing that tips the scales for me are this:
1)Repetition of lines are not uncommon. They strengthen a particular idea or use of imagery.
2)Zombies are actually quite mobile. Their stare is also uncanny.

*shrugs*
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let's all sing to the death rattle .....lalalalalalala
makes much more sense than sync to the death rattle
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let's all sing to the death rattle .....lalalalalalala
makes much more sense than sync to the death rattle
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Please maynard put up the official lyrics so we can end all this nonsense
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Please maynard put up the official lyrics so we can end all this nonsense
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I suck your wee wee
So cum will fill me
Whatever flavor
It happens to be like
"Sweat from the hard wang,
Salt from the ocean"
Shot by your flesh gun
Genetic poison in my teeth
As you kiss me goodbye
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til a sperm dies

Don't look at me like
I am whore, please
Frown with your one face
But with the other
Suck like a junkie
Onto my pee pee
Stare like a zombie
While the sucker, holds his child
Watches them die
Cum in the mouth cryin
"My, oh my"

Cause I need to suck things dry.
In this instance,
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all need it too. Don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing
Neither the young nor old
Will pleasure themselves alone
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing

I need to suck things dry.
In this good, safe instance
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Cum like rain fallin' down
Down on face and mouth

Part man (boy)
Part woman (girl)
Carnivore of grandeur
Still have the transgender
To win this sex battle

La la la la la love.

Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Straightness in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out on your ass
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is ****
So erotic. Oh.
Devour to feel life
So it is, so you've always been

We all feed
On baby genes
It's just cum
Not to vagina

Bi-curiously I live
While I shoot my guys
Much better you than I.
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I suck your wee wee
So cum will fill me
Whatever flavor
It happens to be like
"Sweat from the hard wang,
Salt from the ocean"
Shot by your flesh gun
Genetic poison in my teeth
As you kiss me goodbye
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til a sperm dies

Don't look at me like
I am whore, please
Frown with your one face
But with the other
Suck like a junkie
Onto my pee pee
Stare like a zombie
While the sucker, holds his child
Watches them die
Cum in the mouth cryin
"My, oh my"

Cause I need to suck things dry.
In this instance,
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all need it too. Don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing
Neither the young nor old
Will pleasure themselves alone
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing

I need to suck things dry.
In this good, safe instance
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Cum like rain fallin' down
Down on face and mouth

Part man (boy)
Part woman (girl)
Carnivore of grandeur
Still have the transgender
To win this sex battle

La la la la la love.

Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Straightness in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out on your ass
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is ****
So erotic. Oh.
Devour to feel life
So it is, so you've always been

We all feed
On baby genes
It's just cum
Not to vagina

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I suck your wee wee
So cum will fill me
Whatever flavor
It happens to be like
"Sweat from the hard wang,
Salt from the ocean"
Shot by your flesh gun
Genetic poison in my teeth
As you kiss me goodbye
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til a sperm dies

Don't look at me like
I am whore, please
Frown with your one face
But with the other
Suck like a junkie
Onto my pee pee
Stare like a zombie
While the sucker, holds his child
Watches them die
Cum in the mouth cryin
"My, oh my"

Cause I need to suck things dry.
In this instance,
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all need it too. Don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing
Neither the young nor old
Will pleasure themselves alone
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing

I need to suck things dry.
In this good, safe instance
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Cum like rain fallin' down
Down on face and mouth

Part man (boy)
Part woman (girl)
Carnivore of grandeur
Still have the transgender
To win this sex battle

La la la la la love.

Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Straightness in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out on your ass
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is ****
So erotic. Oh.
Devour to feel life
So it is, so you've always been

We all feed
On baby genes
It's just cum
Not to vagina

Bi-curiously I live
While I shoot my guys
Much better you than I.

Haha, this was amazing. Pretty clever in some parts.
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Originally Posted by clarityinwithdrawl
I suck your wee wee
So cum will fill me
Whatever flavor
It happens to be like
"Sweat from the hard wang,
Salt from the ocean"
Shot by your flesh gun
Genetic poison in my teeth
As you kiss me goodbye
That's my kind of story
It's no fun til a sperm dies

Don't look at me like
I am whore, please
Frown with your one face
But with the other
Suck like a junkie
Onto my pee pee
Stare like a zombie
While the sucker, holds his child
Watches them die
Cum in the mouth cryin
"My, oh my"

Cause I need to suck things dry.
In this instance,
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all need it too. Don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing
Neither the young nor old
Will pleasure themselves alone
We won't give pause until
The cum is flowing

I need to suck things dry.
In this good, safe instance
Bi-curiously I live
While your semen dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?

Cum like rain fallin' down
Down on face and mouth

Part man (boy)
Part woman (girl)
Carnivore of grandeur
Still have the transgender
To win this sex battle

La la la la la love.

Credulous at best
Your desire to believe in
Straightness in the hearts of men.
But pull your head on out on your ass
And give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again

The universe is ****
So erotic. Oh.
Devour to feel life
So it is, so you've always been

We all feed
On baby genes
It's just cum
Not to vagina

Bi-curiously I live
While I shoot my guys
Much better you than I.

Haha, this was amazing. Pretty clever in some parts.
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That's another version of this line I haven't seen yet.

First up, I looked up "graven". It's a word. Yeah, I guess it could fit.

Second, went back with headphones and windows media player, played with the equalizer, and even slowed it down a few times. And what I'm hearing, and probably what you're hearing is:

"...on grave an' ground"

And since there's no hard and clear "d" in "an[d]", you're probably interpreting it as "graven".

But, for sure (fo sho'), there's an "A" sound, not an "E" sound, after "grave".

Thus, we have "grave and ground"; not "graven ground".

I'm liking these new words. Expanding my vocabularly.

The thing is, it's impossible to tell whether it's Graven or Grave an' because en and an can sound exactly the same depending on how you pronounce them.

The reason I think it's graven ground is because that could mean "tragedy rain down on all these people who don't live life as fully as they could, instead preferring to waste it away watching TV."

Grave an' ground doesn't feel right to me, it's like saying "blood rain down on graves and everywhere else.", which seems a bit redundant.
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That's another version of this line I haven't seen yet.

First up, I looked up "graven". It's a word. Yeah, I guess it could fit.

Second, went back with headphones and windows media player, played with the equalizer, and even slowed it down a few times. And what I'm hearing, and probably what you're hearing is:

"...on grave an' ground"

And since there's no hard and clear "d" in "an[d]", you're probably interpreting it as "graven".

But, for sure (fo sho'), there's an "A" sound, not an "E" sound, after "grave".

Thus, we have "grave and ground"; not "graven ground".

I'm liking these new words. Expanding my vocabularly.

The thing is, it's impossible to tell whether it's Graven or Grave an' because en and an can sound exactly the same depending on how you pronounce them.

The reason I think it's graven ground is because that could mean "tragedy rain down on all these people who don't live life as fully as they could, instead preferring to waste it away watching TV."

Grave an' ground doesn't feel right to me, it's like saying "blood rain down on graves and everywhere else.", which seems a bit redundant.
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let's all sing to the death rattle .....lalalalalalala
makes much more sense than sync to the death rattle

I don't think it's Lalalalalalala, as I listen to both the studio and live versions, it sounds more to me like Lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie x4 and to me, it just sounds more like what maynard would sing..playing on the word "lie" and singing it like it's innocent like singing a lullabye (lalalala etc) and its like hes saying that we're lying to ourselves, telling ourselves that everything is alright, but then you watch the images on the TV (transmittal) and we see all that is going on around us and yet we still lie to ourselves. Kind of in the vein of The Pet "counting bodies like sheep to the rythm of the war drums" off of APC's *shudders* eMotive.
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let's all sing to the death rattle .....lalalalalalala
makes much more sense than sync to the death rattle

I don't think it's Lalalalalalala, as I listen to both the studio and live versions, it sounds more to me like Lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie x4 and to me, it just sounds more like what maynard would sing..playing on the word "lie" and singing it like it's innocent like singing a lullabye (lalalala etc) and its like hes saying that we're lying to ourselves, telling ourselves that everything is alright, but then you watch the images on the TV (transmittal) and we see all that is going on around us and yet we still lie to ourselves. Kind of in the vein of The Pet "counting bodies like sheep to the rythm of the war drums" off of APC's *shudders* eMotive.
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Am I the only one that hears (in the second to last section w/ vocals)...

Credulous at best, your deisre to believe in
angels in the hearts of men
PULL YOU HEAD ON OUT YOUR HIP

I saw a bunch of other ideas like pull your head on out your hand,head,etc..

It's clear to me, but let me know what you think.

Eh?
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Re: 01 - Vicarious lyrics

Am I the only one that hears (in the second to last section w/ vocals)...

Credulous at best, your deisre to believe in
angels in the hearts of men
PULL YOU HEAD ON OUT YOUR HIP

I saw a bunch of other ideas like pull your head on out your hand,head,etc..

It's clear to me, but let me know what you think.

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Am I the only one that hears (in the second to last section w/ vocals)...

Credulous at best, your deisre to believe in
angels in the hearts of men
PULL YOU HEAD ON OUT YOUR HIP

I saw a bunch of other ideas like pull your head on out your hand,head,etc..

It's clear to me, but let me know what you think.

Eh?
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Am I the only one that hears (in the second to last section w/ vocals)...

Credulous at best, your deisre to believe in
angels in the hearts of men
PULL YOU HEAD ON OUT YOUR HIP

I saw a bunch of other ideas like pull your head on out your hand,head,etc..

It's clear to me, but let me know what you think.

Eh?
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If your gonna try and decipher the lyrics then you should know that its not "I" its "Eye".

Think about what he's talking about. If you know the meaning than you should understand the lyrics word of choice.
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If your gonna try and decipher the lyrics then you should know that its not "I" its "Eye".

Think about what he's talking about. If you know the meaning than you should understand the lyrics word of choice.
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No way. Its Spidey doin the Napoleon dance. YES!
The official title is..."If spiderman was a gay nightclubber"
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No way. Its Spidey doin the Napoleon dance. YES!
The official title is..."If spiderman was a gay nightclubber"
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The official title is..."If spiderman was a gay nightclubber"
I love it, I fucking love it
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The official title is..."If spiderman was a gay nightclubber"
I love it, I fucking love it
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You're right! How stupid we are! I just listened to the song and he's really saying "eye"! Eye own the TV!
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You're right! How stupid we are! I just listened to the song and he's really saying "eye"! Eye own the TV!
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You're right! How stupid we are! I just listened to the song and he's really saying "eye"! Eye own the TV!

Hahah, I like you :D
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You're right! How stupid we are! I just listened to the song and he's really saying "eye"! Eye own the TV!

Hahah, I like you :D
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Is there anyway i can make that into my screensaver?
there was a bigger version of that somewhere on the web a couple years ago. I believe it went under the title "spiderman is gay."

google it, maybe they made it into a screensaver...I dunno how to do that myself...
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Is there anyway i can make that into my screensaver?
there was a bigger version of that somewhere on the web a couple years ago. I believe it went under the title "spiderman is gay."

google it, maybe they made it into a screensaver...I dunno how to do that myself...
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I just went through this thread, and my apologies to those who deserve them. But whatever it is you folks are sniffing, STOP!!! It's obviously detergent. Maynard is a poet. He would not insert words that obviously would not fit just to make the song flow. Why don't you just wait until he posts them himself? You are not gonna believe how wrong some of you are. From what I see, no one has it all correct. And I may be wrong as well, so I'm not gonna hang myself from a bigger tree than the one I'm on by posting my interpretation. Flame On.
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I just went through this thread, and my apologies to those who deserve them. But whatever it is you folks are sniffing, STOP!!! It's obviously detergent. Maynard is a poet. He would not insert words that obviously would not fit just to make the song flow. Why don't you just wait until he posts them himself? You are not gonna believe how wrong some of you are. From what I see, no one has it all correct. And I may be wrong as well, so I'm not gonna hang myself from a bigger tree than the one I'm on by posting my interpretation. Flame On.
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Eye on the TV, 'Cuz tragedy thrills me,
Whatever flavor, it happens to be, like
Killed by the husband, drowned by the ocean,
shot by his own son, she used the poison
In his tea, kissed him goodbye
That's my kinda story
It's no fun 'till someone dies

Don't look at me like I am a monster
Thought out your one face but with the other
stare like a junkie into the tv
stare like a zombie
while the mother holds her child
watches him die hands to the sky crying, why oh why
Cuz I need to watch things die, from a distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
you all need it too don't lie

Why can't we just admit it? x2
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
neither the brave nor bold will write us the story so
we won't give pause until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die, from a good safe distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so, why can't we just admit it?

Blood like rain come down, dripping on grave and ground

part vampire part warrior carnivore and voyeur

stare at the transmittal, sing to the death rattle

la la la la la la la lie x4

Credulous depends on desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men
pull your head on out your head believes in devineness
shouldn't have to say it all again
the universe is hostile, so impersonal
devour to survive it is, so it's always been
We all feed on tragedy, it's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I

If I'm wrong, I'm only about 2%. I'm outta time for a week or more. will view the flames or compliments then. cya. Anyone remember the Ajax lady? hehe

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Eye on the TV, 'Cuz tragedy thrills me,
Whatever flavor, it happens to be, like
Killed by the husband, drowned by the ocean,
shot by his own son, she used the poison
In his tea, kissed him goodbye
That's my kinda story
It's no fun 'till someone dies

Don't look at me like I am a monster
Thought out your one face but with the other
stare like a junkie into the tv
stare like a zombie
while the mother holds her child
watches him die hands to the sky crying, why oh why
Cuz I need to watch things die, from a distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
you all need it too don't lie

Why can't we just admit it? x2
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
neither the brave nor bold will write us the story so
we won't give pause until the blood is flowing

I need to watch things die, from a good safe distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so, why can't we just admit it?

Blood like rain come down, dripping on grave and ground

part vampire part warrior carnivore and voyeur

stare at the transmittal, sing to the death rattle

la la la la la la la lie x4

Credulous depends on desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men
pull your head on out your head believes in devineness
shouldn't have to say it all again
the universe is hostile, so impersonal
devour to survive it is, so it's always been
We all feed on tragedy, it's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I

If I'm wrong, I'm only about 2%. I'm outta time for a week or more. will view the flames or compliments then. cya. Anyone remember the Ajax lady? hehe

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seems right

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seems right

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Eye on the TV
No! It's "I OWN the TV." Why are you all so insistant that it's "Eye on..." ???

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Thought out your one face but with the other
No, it's definately "frown", as in being two faced and telling someone that they're doing wrong out of one of those faces, frowning upon them, then doing something something equilly repulsive out of the other face.

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Blood like rain come down, dripping on grave and ground
It's definitely not 'dripping', there aren't enough syllables, I think it's "drum on graven ground".

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Credulous depends on desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men
pull your head on out your head believes in devineness
That doesn't make sense at all.

"Credulous at best your desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men. Pull your head on out your happy haze and give a listen, I shouldn't have to say it all again."

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If I'm wrong, I'm only about 2%. I'm outta time for a week or more. will view the flames or compliments then. cya. Anyone remember the Ajax lady? hehe
Bit more than 2% there matey.
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Eye on the TV
No! It's "I OWN the TV." Why are you all so insistant that it's "Eye on..." ???

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Thought out your one face but with the other
No, it's definately "frown", as in being two faced and telling someone that they're doing wrong out of one of those faces, frowning upon them, then doing something something equilly repulsive out of the other face.

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Blood like rain come down, dripping on grave and ground
It's definitely not 'dripping', there aren't enough syllables, I think it's "drum on graven ground".

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Credulous depends on desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men
pull your head on out your head believes in devineness
That doesn't make sense at all.

"Credulous at best your desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men. Pull your head on out your happy haze and give a listen, I shouldn't have to say it all again."

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If I'm wrong, I'm only about 2%. I'm outta time for a week or more. will view the flames or compliments then. cya. Anyone remember the Ajax lady? hehe
Bit more than 2% there matey.
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Is there anyway i can make that into my screensaver?
go here http://www.spider-man-movies.com/spider-man_gay/

and save the pic as a gif...then right click and set as desktop...it will slow you PC up though...so keep it small
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Is there anyway i can make that into my screensaver?
go here http://www.spider-man-movies.com/spider-man_gay/

and save the pic as a gif...then right click and set as desktop...it will slow you PC up though...so keep it small
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Good job done by all who have tried to decpiher the lyrics, I haven't sat and listened intently to translate them all yet, but seriously, I would be disappointed if the starting lyric is anything other than "I own the TV"

Why, because this is far more potent by declaring a sense of ownership, a sense of dependence on it rather than "eye on the TV" portraying a kind of casual interest.

The rest of the sentiment of the song supports the former far more than the latter.
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Good job done by all who have tried to decpiher the lyrics, I haven't sat and listened intently to translate them all yet, but seriously, I would be disappointed if the starting lyric is anything other than "I own the TV"

Why, because this is far more potent by declaring a sense of ownership, a sense of dependence on it rather than "eye on the TV" portraying a kind of casual interest.

The rest of the sentiment of the song supports the former far more than the latter.
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or as some previous posters have said "I am the TV" is even stronger, I possibly like this better.
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or as some previous posters have said "I am the TV" is even stronger, I possibly like this better.
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It's possible it is "i am the tv" as I can hear that too. Just like I hear "lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie" on the studio version and even more clearly on the live versions.. instead of La-la-la...etc.

But no matter what and how many guesses we make, we still won't have this solved until the lyrics are officially released.
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It's possible it is "i am the tv" as I can hear that too. Just like I hear "lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie-lie" on the studio version and even more clearly on the live versions.. instead of La-la-la...etc.

But no matter what and how many guesses we make, we still won't have this solved until the lyrics are officially released.
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"I own the TV"
"Frown out your one face"
"Drum on"
"Creduloused at best"
"Pull your head on out your hippy haze"
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Re: 01 - Vicarious lyrics

"I own the TV"
"Frown out your one face"
"Drum on"
"Creduloused at best"
"Pull your head on out your hippy haze"
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"I own the TV"
"Frown out your one face"
"Drum on"
"Creduloused at best"
"Pull your head on out your hippy haze"
I don't think it's "I own the TV", that just sounds silly.

It's either Eye on the TV or I am the TV...although I'm leaning towards Eye on the TV.

Credulous at best

Pull your head on out your happy haze.. but it might be hippy too..hard to tell for sure..
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"I own the TV"
"Frown out your one face"
"Drum on"
"Creduloused at best"
"Pull your head on out your hippy haze"
I don't think it's "I own the TV", that just sounds silly.

It's either Eye on the TV or I am the TV...although I'm leaning towards Eye on the TV.

Credulous at best

Pull your head on out your happy haze.. but it might be hippy too..hard to tell for sure..
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I don't think it's "I own the TV", that just sounds silly.

It's either Eye on the TV or I am the TV...although I'm leaning towards Eye on the TV.

Credulous at best

Pull your head on out your happy haze.. but it might be hippy too..hard to tell for sure..
Why is "I own the TV" silly?

"Eye on the TV" is faaaaar sillier and it only makes sense if you think of it as a broken sentence.

"My eye is on the TV" would be broken into "Eye on the TV" and that's just plain sloppy.

Plus it SOUNDS like "I OWN the TV."

"I own the TV because tragedy thrills me." There, the person singing to us is explaining why they own their TV, because they enjoy watching tragedy.

I don't see why this is so hard to understand.
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Re: 01 - Vicarious lyrics

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I don't think it's "I own the TV", that just sounds silly.

It's either Eye on the TV or I am the TV...although I'm leaning towards Eye on the TV.

Credulous at best

Pull your head on out your happy haze.. but it might be hippy too..hard to tell for sure..
Why is "I own the TV" silly?

"Eye on the TV" is faaaaar sillier and it only makes sense if you think of it as a broken sentence.

"My eye is on the TV" would be broken into "Eye on the TV" and that's just plain sloppy.

Plus it SOUNDS like "I OWN the TV."

"I own the TV because tragedy thrills me." There, the person singing to us is explaining why they own their TV, because they enjoy watching tragedy.

I don't see why this is so hard to understand.
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That weren't suggestions, that were the correct ones.
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That weren't suggestions, that were the correct ones.
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