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06-09-2006, 06:38 AM
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Wow.
Are you fucking stupid? Ignorant?
JUST LACKING IN INTELLIGENCE?


Mikael Åkerfeldt
Don't know who he is? Educate Yourself. He is, by far, a better vocalist then Maynard. Listen to his band's album, Damnation.
Don't be a moron. Don't tell people that they are stupid because they don't know who Mikael Åkerfeldt is.

Besides, Åkerfeldt can't fucking sing. He's a good guitar-player and screamer. But in a traditional vocal aspect. He's terrible. He's not even singing. It has no dynamics what so ever. The weakest element in Opeth is the "melody-vocals". End of fucking discussion, man.
Old 06-09-2006, 06:38 AM   #121
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Wow.
Are you fucking stupid? Ignorant?
JUST LACKING IN INTELLIGENCE?


Mikael Åkerfeldt
Don't know who he is? Educate Yourself. He is, by far, a better vocalist then Maynard. Listen to his band's album, Damnation.
Don't be a moron. Don't tell people that they are stupid because they don't know who Mikael Åkerfeldt is.

Besides, Åkerfeldt can't fucking sing. He's a good guitar-player and screamer. But in a traditional vocal aspect. He's terrible. He's not even singing. It has no dynamics what so ever. The weakest element in Opeth is the "melody-vocals". End of fucking discussion, man.
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^ agreed!

Calling someone an idiot while pointing out your idiocy. You obviously aren't a singer. Mikael is not even close to maynards technical ability. Not even close.

Anyway, this album is great but I kind of agree. Maynards voice isn't the best thing about this album. The production of his voice is not done very well either. Plus i think most people are used to maynard showing off his range with every song and on this album he really isn't.
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^ agreed!

Calling someone an idiot while pointing out your idiocy. You obviously aren't a singer. Mikael is not even close to maynards technical ability. Not even close.

Anyway, this album is great but I kind of agree. Maynards voice isn't the best thing about this album. The production of his voice is not done very well either. Plus i think most people are used to maynard showing off his range with every song and on this album he really isn't.
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Honestly, nothing has changed in Tool. Nothing at all. Danny is still a fucking amazing drummer. Justin still plays the coolest bass riffs. Adam still plays his catchy, grinding, yet simple guitar riffs, and MJK still produces in the lyrics and vocals department. This sounds like Tool, this is Tool. This kicks ass.
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Honestly, nothing has changed in Tool. Nothing at all. Danny is still a fucking amazing drummer. Justin still plays the coolest bass riffs. Adam still plays his catchy, grinding, yet simple guitar riffs, and MJK still produces in the lyrics and vocals department. This sounds like Tool, this is Tool. This kicks ass.
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06-09-2006, 11:41 AM
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I've listened to Opeth (et similia... Anathema, Porcupine Tree, Katatonia... all the music coming from that scene) for a couple of years back in 2001>2003...
Now I'm so bored and tired of that music and lyrics which I feel so immature...
It's no more a part of me.

In Topic: Maynard? It's one of his warmer and intense performance this one on 10,000 Days.
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I've listened to Opeth (et similia... Anathema, Porcupine Tree, Katatonia... all the music coming from that scene) for a couple of years back in 2001>2003...
Now I'm so bored and tired of that music and lyrics which I feel so immature...
It's no more a part of me.

In Topic: Maynard? It's one of his warmer and intense performance this one on 10,000 Days.
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The worst part about 10,000 Days is the fact that it was fucking made. As much as I love Tool or have loved Tool I think they should have gone down in a plane crash before this fucking stupid album.

Suck my cock, thank you, fuck off.

is this not against the rules?
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The worst part about 10,000 Days is the fact that it was fucking made. As much as I love Tool or have loved Tool I think they should have gone down in a plane crash before this fucking stupid album.

Suck my cock, thank you, fuck off.

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shut the fuck up.

Actually, he is correct. STFU Noob.

"Maynard's persona bugs me......he's this.... he's that...blah...blah...blah".

STFU already. His persona has not changed in one iota. He's the same guy on all the records. You just read way too much press the band permits themselves.

If you want some "rockstar" , "fan" friendly icon, go listen and post on Disturbed's website.
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Complete offense intended to the above poster.

shut the fuck up.

Actually, he is correct. STFU Noob.

"Maynard's persona bugs me......he's this.... he's that...blah...blah...blah".

STFU already. His persona has not changed in one iota. He's the same guy on all the records. You just read way too much press the band permits themselves.

If you want some "rockstar" , "fan" friendly icon, go listen and post on Disturbed's website.
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Anyone else feel that MJK is the worst part of 10,000 Days?
Nah. Lyrically, some of it isn't my cup of tea (I like my Maynard optimistic), but I think he sounds pretty damn inspired most of the time on this. If there is a worst part of 10K Days, it's Adam. I think a lot more could have been done (ex: his solo on 10000 Days doesn't work for me). Still great most of the time but it's not my favorite from him.
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Anyone else feel that MJK is the worst part of 10,000 Days?
Nah. Lyrically, some of it isn't my cup of tea (I like my Maynard optimistic), but I think he sounds pretty damn inspired most of the time on this. If there is a worst part of 10K Days, it's Adam. I think a lot more could have been done (ex: his solo on 10000 Days doesn't work for me). Still great most of the time but it's not my favorite from him.
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MJK is just weird. First he dressed up like a woman now he dresses up as a cowboy. He's just so...weird. That's all I can say. But I don't have a huge problem with his weirdness. It makes people laugh and that's his intention. I really liked when he wore that black shiny suit during the lateralus tour though.
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MJK is just weird. First he dressed up like a woman now he dresses up as a cowboy. He's just so...weird. That's all I can say. But I don't have a huge problem with his weirdness. It makes people laugh and that's his intention. I really liked when he wore that black shiny suit during the lateralus tour though.
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I like it.
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Oh, I know. It is. He's still weird.
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Oh, I know. It is. He's still weird.
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What's the worst part?
That few seconds after the end of Viginti Tres- when I can't remember if I set the CD player to repeat the album or not.
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What's the worst part?
That few seconds after the end of Viginti Tres- when I can't remember if I set the CD player to repeat the album or not.
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That few seconds after the end of Viginti Tres- when I can't remember if I set the CD player to repeat the album or not.
I really can't think of a worst part to 10,000 days. Yes, it is different from their past albums, but if it wasn't, I would probably be disappointed. As far as the people who insist on finding fault and trashing the album, well they can lick MJK's hairy balls. I'm sure he would appreciate it.
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That few seconds after the end of Viginti Tres- when I can't remember if I set the CD player to repeat the album or not.
I really can't think of a worst part to 10,000 days. Yes, it is different from their past albums, but if it wasn't, I would probably be disappointed. As far as the people who insist on finding fault and trashing the album, well they can lick MJK's hairy balls. I'm sure he would appreciate it.
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Maynard on 10,000 Days > Maynard on Lateralus

On 10,000 Days he sings with emotion.
Umm, go listen to The Grudge, especially the scream, then listen to that scream over and over again.

Good. Now come back and tell me he lacks emotion.
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Maynard on 10,000 Days > Maynard on Lateralus

On 10,000 Days he sings with emotion.
Umm, go listen to The Grudge, especially the scream, then listen to that scream over and over again.

Good. Now come back and tell me he lacks emotion.
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let a man change... ive seen it posted umpteen times... "oh maynards lost something blah blah blah blah" look people change... GET OVER IT. if you want young, angry maynard go get your copies of undertow and opiate out... its really that simple... shit
Fuckin' right. I've been waiting for someone in this entire forum to spew those words and now I find myself wanting to kiss this persons ass. Everyone needs to just calm the shit down, people evolve, I've already said this on another thread and I'll say it again...He has seen better days and has evolved into something more positive. I saw a video of him on Youtube.com where he says something along the lines of ''I hate children...'' something along the lines of that and more and that happened between opiate and undertow or something of the sort...now he has a son and has dealt with several different events in his life and even more that we all don't know of, but can you expect him to come into a song screaming ''Fuck you'' again? Do you want him to come out with Jerk off part 2 or something of the sorts? You won't get it, get over it. I understand that there are people that like the album but are still somewhat disappointed and thats ok because I've found things that could have been better on the album to, but this is what we've been waiting for for five years and this is what we got.

For the people who blame his lyrical content/writting style on APC, go shove it somewhere.

Yeah I'm gonna get nasty remarks, or I probably won't. Either way people need to just take the album for what it is. Yeah there has been better work, but picking appart the elements of the band and this album isn't going to do you any good, they'll still make the music THEY want to release and what they feel their adoring fans will like...I'm sorry some of the early Tool fans are missing that part of their careers, and I'm sorry they didn't get Lateralus 2.

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let a man change... ive seen it posted umpteen times... "oh maynards lost something blah blah blah blah" look people change... GET OVER IT. if you want young, angry maynard go get your copies of undertow and opiate out... its really that simple... shit
Fuckin' right. I've been waiting for someone in this entire forum to spew those words and now I find myself wanting to kiss this persons ass. Everyone needs to just calm the shit down, people evolve, I've already said this on another thread and I'll say it again...He has seen better days and has evolved into something more positive. I saw a video of him on Youtube.com where he says something along the lines of ''I hate children...'' something along the lines of that and more and that happened between opiate and undertow or something of the sort...now he has a son and has dealt with several different events in his life and even more that we all don't know of, but can you expect him to come into a song screaming ''Fuck you'' again? Do you want him to come out with Jerk off part 2 or something of the sorts? You won't get it, get over it. I understand that there are people that like the album but are still somewhat disappointed and thats ok because I've found things that could have been better on the album to, but this is what we've been waiting for for five years and this is what we got.

For the people who blame his lyrical content/writting style on APC, go shove it somewhere.

Yeah I'm gonna get nasty remarks, or I probably won't. Either way people need to just take the album for what it is. Yeah there has been better work, but picking appart the elements of the band and this album isn't going to do you any good, they'll still make the music THEY want to release and what they feel their adoring fans will like...I'm sorry some of the early Tool fans are missing that part of their careers, and I'm sorry they didn't get Lateralus 2.

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Anyone else feel that MJK is the worst part of 10,000 Days?
anyone think that you're a noob with only 7 posts and no-one gives a flying fuck what you think? i do. that's for sure
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Anyone else feel that MJK is the worst part of 10,000 Days?
anyone think that you're a noob with only 7 posts and no-one gives a flying fuck what you think? i do. that's for sure
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Fuckin' right. I've been waiting for someone in this entire forum to spew those words and now I find myself wanting to kiss this persons ass. Everyone needs to just calm the shit down, people evolve, I've already said this on another thread and I'll say it again...He has seen better days and has evolved into something more positive. I saw a video of him on Youtube.com where he says something along the lines of ''I hate children...'' something along the lines of that and more and that happened between opiate and undertow or something of the sort...now he has a son and has dealt with several different events in his life and even more that we all don't know of, but can you expect him to come into a song screaming ''Fuck you'' again? Do you want him to come out with Jerk off part 2 or something of the sorts? You won't get it, get over it. I understand that there are people that like the album but are still somewhat disappointed and thats ok because I've found things that could have been better on the album to, but this is what we've been waiting for for five years and this is what we got.

For the people who blame his lyrical content/writting style on APC, go shove it somewhere.

Yeah I'm gonna get nasty remarks, or I probably won't. Either way people need to just take the album for what it is. Yeah there has been better work, but picking appart the elements of the band and this album isn't going to do you any good, they'll still make the music THEY want to release and what they feel their adoring fans will like...I'm sorry some of the early Tool fans are missing that part of their careers, and I'm sorry they didn't get Lateralus 2.

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Agreed.

To me Aemina is the best, the greatest piece of art that they have ever achived. It could only go down from there. Which in my mind it has. Dont get me wrong I loved Lateralus. And I love 10k days. I have listed to it every day since May 2. However, I understand that it will never top my favorite album they have made. IT IS STILL FUCKING GREAT MUSIC! Just realize that if you expect or are expecting anything that this band produces will be like anything like they have compiled in the past, prepared to be disapointed. The band has evolved and moved on.
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Fuckin' right. I've been waiting for someone in this entire forum to spew those words and now I find myself wanting to kiss this persons ass. Everyone needs to just calm the shit down, people evolve, I've already said this on another thread and I'll say it again...He has seen better days and has evolved into something more positive. I saw a video of him on Youtube.com where he says something along the lines of ''I hate children...'' something along the lines of that and more and that happened between opiate and undertow or something of the sort...now he has a son and has dealt with several different events in his life and even more that we all don't know of, but can you expect him to come into a song screaming ''Fuck you'' again? Do you want him to come out with Jerk off part 2 or something of the sorts? You won't get it, get over it. I understand that there are people that like the album but are still somewhat disappointed and thats ok because I've found things that could have been better on the album to, but this is what we've been waiting for for five years and this is what we got.

For the people who blame his lyrical content/writting style on APC, go shove it somewhere.

Yeah I'm gonna get nasty remarks, or I probably won't. Either way people need to just take the album for what it is. Yeah there has been better work, but picking appart the elements of the band and this album isn't going to do you any good, they'll still make the music THEY want to release and what they feel their adoring fans will like...I'm sorry some of the early Tool fans are missing that part of their careers, and I'm sorry they didn't get Lateralus 2.

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Agreed.

To me Aemina is the best, the greatest piece of art that they have ever achived. It could only go down from there. Which in my mind it has. Dont get me wrong I loved Lateralus. And I love 10k days. I have listed to it every day since May 2. However, I understand that it will never top my favorite album they have made. IT IS STILL FUCKING GREAT MUSIC! Just realize that if you expect or are expecting anything that this band produces will be like anything like they have compiled in the past, prepared to be disapointed. The band has evolved and moved on.
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I started this, and this is my point, exactly. Yea, 10,000 days is great, and all that pizzazz, but seriously, MJK is lacking something he had once upon a time.
Youth/ hostility. All of these guys have matured and as a result do not sound as they did at one time. As far as MJK is concerned, he just doesn't have much to pissed off about. Sure the war sucks and we as a people may suck but in his youth he referred to things that had to do with personal experiences, hence his more hostile and emotional vocal expressions. There are lots of fans who seem dissappointed at Maynard's vocal lacking... sorry, but as a singer I know that he is a much better SINGER now than he ever was. Keep it up MJK!!!
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I started this, and this is my point, exactly. Yea, 10,000 days is great, and all that pizzazz, but seriously, MJK is lacking something he had once upon a time.
Youth/ hostility. All of these guys have matured and as a result do not sound as they did at one time. As far as MJK is concerned, he just doesn't have much to pissed off about. Sure the war sucks and we as a people may suck but in his youth he referred to things that had to do with personal experiences, hence his more hostile and emotional vocal expressions. There are lots of fans who seem dissappointed at Maynard's vocal lacking... sorry, but as a singer I know that he is a much better SINGER now than he ever was. Keep it up MJK!!!
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wow, havn't come back to this in a while, and wish i didn't. Perhaps I should have phrased it, MJK is my least favorite part? But seriously...some of you people need to relax.
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wow, havn't come back to this in a while, and wish i didn't. Perhaps I should have phrased it, MJK is my least favorite part? But seriously...some of you people need to relax.
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Some of you people need to learn to think. ( swimming should be a'priori ).
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lol @ 06'ers using tool slang in posts. i need to learn to swim while i live vicariously before i schism my third eye.
Old 06-14-2006, 02:47 PM   #141
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lol @ 06'ers using tool slang in posts. i need to learn to swim while i live vicariously before i schism my third eye.
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06-14-2006, 04:11 PM
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GOOD: Danny
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AVERAGE: Maynard
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BAD: Overall Songwiting
Danny, Maynard, and Justin are the best in their respective fields.

I agree the songwriting was weak (except for Vicarious) and whether or not this was mostly adams fault, it is his guitar that overpower the (better, and more interesting) Danny (and even Maynard).
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GOOD: Danny
Justin
AVERAGE: Maynard
Adam
BAD: Overall Songwiting
Danny, Maynard, and Justin are the best in their respective fields.

I agree the songwriting was weak (except for Vicarious) and whether or not this was mostly adams fault, it is his guitar that overpower the (better, and more interesting) Danny (and even Maynard).
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06-14-2006, 04:20 PM
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bar chords, guys,....not power chords. if the songs were in E, then yes, power chords...but since all songs are in D. its bar chords.
and vicarious is not one of the hardest tool songs to play.
and mjks lyrics are fucking golden. get off his nuts, or go make a better album with better singing...fucking pricks...
how can you say his vocals are shit? not another man in rock could pull off anything close to that.....especially with the arrangments and music he must sing along too...you people dont have a grasp on musicality at all...this album is fucking technical as fuck....music and vocal wise....
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bar chords, guys,....not power chords. if the songs were in E, then yes, power chords...but since all songs are in D. its bar chords.
and vicarious is not one of the hardest tool songs to play.
and mjks lyrics are fucking golden. get off his nuts, or go make a better album with better singing...fucking pricks...
how can you say his vocals are shit? not another man in rock could pull off anything close to that.....especially with the arrangments and music he must sing along too...you people dont have a grasp on musicality at all...this album is fucking technical as fuck....music and vocal wise....
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06-14-2006, 05:48 PM
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nope. the indians are :)
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nope. the indians are :)
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The worst part is the production. Mixed way too loud, static bursts, distortion, white noise here and there. The drums are way too hard to focus on.

MJK rules.
Be patient and wait for the vinyl to destroy you\m/
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The worst part is the production. Mixed way too loud, static bursts, distortion, white noise here and there. The drums are way too hard to focus on.

MJK rules.
Be patient and wait for the vinyl to destroy you\m/
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