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Old 06-21-2008, 03:18 AM   #4561
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Has anyone seen the Melvins in concert? I'm considering buying some tickets for their show in Denver. Are they any good live or are they too old now?
To me, you can't beat them.
They are one of the only bands that I will go well out of my way to see.
The new songs on the forthcoming album have once again impressed me with the way they continue to evolve and top themselves. I can't wait to hear the new songs live.
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on a completely unrelated topic,iwas on toolband the other day and read it was the aniversary of judith's death.there i found some inspiring words,in case you havent been there,ill share them with you,"take a moment to count your blessings,remind yourself that time is short.take a deep breath and allow the petty stuff to disintegrate to dust and blow away.its all gonna work out" MJK.seems fitting i come across this statement 2 weeks after ive split up with my cheating wife, of 16 years,who has ruined a handfull of once favorite TOOL songs for me. thanks maynard
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on a completely unrelated topic,iwas on toolband the other day and read it was the aniversary of judith's death.there i found some inspiring words,in case you havent been there,ill share them with you,"take a moment to count your blessings,remind yourself that time is short.take a deep breath and allow the petty stuff to disintegrate to dust and blow away.its all gonna work out" MJK.seems fitting i come across this statement 2 weeks after ive split up with my cheating wife, of 16 years,who has ruined a handfull of once favorite TOOL songs for me. thanks maynard
I agree that his message started out inspiring, but don't you think it kind of turned into a pitch for his wine?
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I agree that his message started out inspiring, but don't you think it kind of turned into a pitch for his wine?
Not at all, just being himself... ;)


And yeah, I've learned the hard way as well not to link any of your favorite things to a girl unless you have no doubt (then again, I guess 16 years would have you think that) because as soon as shit hits the fan, your favorite things have a much harder time being enjoyed and it feels like another piece of you died.
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Nothing showing Adam, but a few pics of Jello GAMH show over at sfgate dot com forwardslash cityexposed. Also a short audio interview of audience members. It's a nice venue. Saw the Patton Crudo show there last month.
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Hello everyone- I've been away from this site for some time now- Many things going on in life, some good, but mostly bad, too much to talk about here- just wanted to say hi, I'm back, and what's crackin fellas?

It's been over a year since I logged in last- its amazing I remembered my password.

P.S.- FINALLY got rid of my mohawk... kinda had to for a job interview the other day.

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Here's to George Carlin.

He was to me what Bill Hicks was to Tool.
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P.S.- FINALLY got rid of my mohawk... kinda had to for a job interview the other day.
That's a slippery slope you're on. One day it's the mohawk, the next you'll own an iron...
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That's a slippery slope you're on. One day it's the mohawk, the next you'll own an iron...
I already owned an iron, haha...

Update to my update, though- I think I got the job. As soon as interviews are done, the mohawk is being reinstated. My head feels naked.

It was worth it to nearly double my income, though.

Now I'll be able to afford the entire Pokemon card collection and my botox injections.

And my breast reduction. I'd like to reduce one of them.

P.S.- I wish this website had a thread for dreams. I've been keeping a very detailed diary of my dreams for some time now, and I have nowhere to post them for dissection. Carl Jung was fascinated by dreams and their multi-faceted meanings. I am too. Oh well.

Time to go finish taking pictures of my cast- that is being removed tomorrow.

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Here's to George Carlin.

He was to me what Bill Hicks was to Tool.
FUCK !

And to add to that, I think in many ways George was to Bill Hicks what Bill Hicks was to Tool, as was Lenny Bruce to George and Bill.

I suppose I kinda knew it would happen sooner than later, but I'm severely bummed, nonetheless.

I'm forever glad I got to see this hero perform live at least once before he was gone.
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FUCK !

And to add to that, I think in many ways George was to Bill Hicks what Bill Hicks was to Tool, as was Lenny Bruce to George and Bill.

I suppose I kinda knew it would happen sooner than later, but I'm severely bummed, nonetheless.

I'm forever glad I got to see this hero perform live at least once before he was gone.
Funny how that works eh? Jerry Seinfield had a short, but sweet editorial in the NY Times yesterday about George and his influence on comedy, of course, with a witty kicker :) I should check out more of Bill Hicks stuff, I'm sure I'd love it haha, I just wish my generation (being 20) would appreciate it someone as smart as Carlin compared to Dane Cook (sucks and yells a lot) or Carlos Mencia (cool, you understand the term beaner) outside my group of friends. Just the way he understood language far enough to turn it around on itself is a short list of people. Some of my professors keep telling me to stop breaking the rules of writing and stop being so creative. Pretty whacked huh?

Now if only I could pair the blistering social commentary of Carlin and music power of Tool into one, why, I'd rule the world! MWUAHAHA!!!
Some day...(well, at least the half of the people smarter than the average person)

btw Junior, I was just watching the Aenima 07' vids, and for the last 10 seconds, how the hell is that all programmed? Thats the most intense light show I've ever seen! It's literally ruined any stage show I've seen since Tool. Dethklok and Dream Theater have some pretty cool stuff going, but nothing stacks up to what you put out there!

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Funny how that works eh? Jerry Seinfield had a short, but sweet editorial in the NY Times yesterday about George and his influence on comedy, of course, with a witty kicker :)
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btw Junior, I was just watching the Aenima 07' vids, and for the last 10 seconds, how the hell is that all programmed? Thats the most intense light show I've ever seen! It's literally ruined any stage show I've seen since Tool. Dethklok and Dream Theater have some pretty cool stuff going, but nothing stacks up to what you put out there!
Louis CK had some nice words on his website http://www.louisck.net , as did Lewis Black http://www.lewisblack.com/news.asp.
There's also a nice remembrance from director Kevin Smith in Newsweek http://www.newsweek.com/id/142975/, or at his own website http://www.newsaskew.com/2008/06/25/...vin-on-carlin/.

As for the ending of "Aenema": I wish I could remember; it's been so long since they've played it.
Couldn't resist...

That ending grew into a pretty intense thing by the time they had stopped doing it. A lot of the push/pull strobe stuff during the final "hey, hey" section is just written on 2 faders of the lighting console and I manually slid back and forth between the two. Sometimes the simple route is the most effective. Scott held off on the lasers until just the right moment and then all departments unleashed the fury that is the last 3 seconds. That was always the idea of that tour. A progressive build to a sensory overload.
When it seemed like they were not going to do that song anymore, Scott took his ending for it, modified it a bit, and used it at the end of "Vicarious".

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btw Junior, I was just watching the Aenima 07' vids, and for the last 10 seconds, how the hell is that all programmed? Thats the most intense light show I've ever seen! It's literally ruined any stage show I've seen since Tool. Dethklok and Dream Theater have some pretty cool stuff going, but nothing stacks up to what you put out there!

I agree. I saw TOOL 3 times in '06/'07 and it has ruined seeing other shows for my wife and I, but of course in a good way ;) The idea of the projection stage, screens, lasers. I'm wondering how it will be topped on the next tour.

I do agree with the band, that a live DVD might not be the best medium though. I was watching the concert I attended and it was so 1 dimensional. You cannot grasp the feeling you get while at the concert like during Lateralus or stinkfist.
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I do agree with the band, that a live DVD might not be the best medium though. I was watching the concert I attended and it was so 1 dimensional. You cannot grasp the feeling you get while at the concert like during Lateralus or stinkfist.
That seems to be the major stumbling block that keeps one from happening.
While I do agree with the principle of that, I wish there were at least a nice document of the tour.
The 2002 tour got captured for the archives with multiple cameras, whether the public ever sees it or not.
The 2006-2007 shows never even got a good filming/video recording made of them. So there's no hi-quality record of it ever happening. All that exist are single locked-off wide shots from the back of the floor, and a couple recordings from up high above the floor.
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That seems to be the major stumbling block that keeps one from happening.
While I do agree with the principle of that, I wish there were at least a nice document of the tour.
The 2002 tour got captured for the archives with multiple cameras, whether the public ever sees it or not.
The 2006-2007 shows never even got a good filming/video recording made of them. So there's no hi-quality record of it ever happening. All that exist are single locked-off wide shots from the back of the floor, and a couple recordings from up high above the floor.

yea, it's too bad because this was a great tour show wise.
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The 2002 tour got captured for the archives with multiple cameras, whether the public ever sees it or not.
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Speaking of, I do remember that they filmed the last six shows from that final leg in 2002, but I also seem to remember Blair posting something about an "after" show performance of Faaip de Oiad for a surprise on the dvd. Possibly in Oklahoma, supposedly they came back on about 30 minutes after everyone left and Danny bashed it out.
Anyone else remember that post? I looked back but couldn't find it.
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Speaking of, I do remember that they filmed the last six shows from that final leg in 2002, but I also seem to remember Blair posting something about an "after" show performance of Faaip de Oiad for a surprise on the dvd. Possibly in Oklahoma, supposedly they came back on about 30 minutes after everyone left and Danny bashed it out.
Anyone else remember that post? I looked back but couldn't find it.
I believe that "happened" in Reno, if I remember correctly.
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I believe that "happened" in Reno, if I remember correctly.

further details?
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so whose read the recent newsletter? Blair talks about what the band members have been up to. certain comments lead me to believe Tool is not done making albums. supposedly justin has been working on riffs (for Tool). there was something else i read as well, cant remember now.

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I believe that "happened" in Reno, if I remember correctly.
So they really did do Faai de Oiad in Reno? Any details you can talk about?
And how's DD tour in Europe going?
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So they really did do Faai de Oiad in Reno? Any details you can talk about?
And how's DD tour in Europe going?
Well, they must have been in a good mood in '02, cuz when they came though Reno last year, they certainly seemed pissed about something. (probably about having to be in Reno lol [as reference to the lack of singing and lack of two songs])
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further details?
Note the "quotes".

I would call it an alleged incident, but the reported location was Reno, if I remember correctly.
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And how's DD tour in Europe going?
The tour is going OK. Some weird gigs.
DD was the first pop act to play at the Louvre in Paris a few weeks ago for a charity auction. Then they played at a castle in Italy for Flavio Briatore's wedding (he's the head of Renault F1 Racing). We did some normal shows in Germany, Belgium, Holland and Denmark.
I'm almost finished with a week off in London.
The band are rehearsing with DJ/producer/muso Mark Ronson for a gig next week in Paris that is being recorded for Channel 4 ( I think ). It's going to be a "remix" set of modified Duran songs mixed in with some other stuff, and Ronson's band joining in. Horns, strings, percussion, etc.
The string section are the "Demon Strings", whom I've toured with before when they were playing with "The Good, the Bad and the Queen" last year. They're part of Ronson's band now, but gained notoriety in "Gorillaz".
After that we've got a few larger scale UK arena shows and then some more shows throughout Europe, including over a week of cities in Italy.
It's scheduled to finish around the end of July, and then back to the US for me to see what else I can get into. There might be some more Duran shows in August/September. Not sure.
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so whose read the recent newsletter? Blair talks about what the band members have been up to. certain comments lead me to believe Tool is not done making albums. supposedly justin has been working on riffs (for Tool). there was something else i read as well, cant remember now.

discuss away
I wouldn't read into those newsletters too much. I feel like I'm being toyed with every time I read them.

Tool is not done making albums, unless one of them gets hit by a peach truck. Maynard clearly said at the Grammy's that the band has started work on the new album. At this point, I'm sure they have been jamming together and kicking around some ideas. As with every album they've made, they're taking their sweet time and exploring every possible path until they find the one that feels right. Danny's injury has obviously slowed this process down.

I'm hoping that they give us an official update on the next album soon.
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The tour is going OK. Some weird gigs.
Duran Duran playing a wedding must have been something to see. Funny stuff.
A week off too? In England? In the summer? Not bad. Hope you toured the Tower of London. Anyway, thanks for the update and good luck the rest of the way.
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I wouldn't read into those newsletters too much. I feel like I'm being toyed with every time I read them.

Tool is not done making albums, unless one of them gets hit by a peach truck. Maynard clearly said at the Grammy's that the band has started work on the new album. At this point, I'm sure they have been jamming together and kicking around some ideas. As with every album they've made, they're taking their sweet time and exploring every possible path until they find the one that feels right. Danny's injury has obviously slowed this process down.

I'm hoping that they give us an official update on the next album soon.
glad to hear someone else thinks the same at least.

i didnt mean that i thought tool was working on a new album, i just meant that they would like to work on a new album and that they are not done yet, like you said. i dont care if it takes years, its still awesome to know they are still thinking about making new albums. i really thought 10k days would probably be the last till now.
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So I was checking out the STP videos on blabbermouth and it seems like the huge video screens are becoming the norm... I do like their setup though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PZWmSrohmw

maybe Tool's next tour will be house lights only LOL
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I wouldn't read into those newsletters too much. I feel like I'm being toyed with every time I read them.

Tool is not done making albums, unless one of them gets hit by a peach truck. Maynard clearly said at the Grammy's that the band has started work on the new album. At this point, I'm sure they have been jamming together and kicking around some ideas. As with every album they've made, they're taking their sweet time and exploring every possible path until they find the one that feels right. Danny's injury has obviously slowed this process down.

I'm hoping that they give us an official update on the next album soon.
i definateley agree,im fairly confident they will put out another album,unfortunately i think that'll be it.one more album,one more tour.cmon,the guys are gettin up there,what are they gonna do,go on forever like the stones?maynard's what 42,43 now?you gotta figure he'll be done after another tour,vocals dont hold out forever.look at the problems on 10000 days,wasnt the same as lateralus days.
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i definateley agree,im fairly confident they will put out another album,unfortunately i think that'll be it.one more album,one more tour.cmon,the guys are gettin up there,what are they gonna do,go on forever like the stones?maynard's what 42,43 now?you gotta figure he'll be done after another tour,vocals dont hold out forever.look at the problems on 10000 days,wasnt the same as lateralus days.
Its just an evolution, you wouldn't want a band to sound the same forever would you? :)
As much as I'd love to hear the grudge live, they're adapting to age. I think songs like Right in Two are going to be Tool's future, well, thats the hint I got from them using it as a closing piece of 10,000 Days (which is funny, because its kind of 46&2 re-written in parts lol)
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Its just an evolution, you wouldn't want a band to sound the same forever would you? :)
As much as I'd love to hear the grudge live, they're adapting to age. I think songs like Right in Two are going to be Tool's future, well, thats the hint I got from them using it as a closing piece of 10,000 Days (which is funny, because its kind of 46&2 re-written in parts lol)
Tool will be able to tour and record albums as long as they'd like to. Maynard's vocals are not giving out on him anytime soon. I don't think they're adjusting their setlists for their age at all. They're not that old! They would have no problems playing the Grudge live if they wanted to. They played Opiate on the 10,000 days tour, and it sounded awesome.

There is a good possibility that the next album will be less heavy than the previous albums. I hope they're able to stay true to the experience that their albums have offered. I want them to do something along the lines of the Pink Floyd album Animals, and have a series of 12-15 minute psychadelic songs.
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I found this snippet on Tool's attorney's website. It appears Tool is up to something. The new DVD? Album?
http://attorneyalanjones.com/

"My trip to LA this month was productive, eventful
and fun. I had good meetings with Tool's various
band members, lawyers, cpa and investment advisors.
Plus I met with Tool's label rep Matt Marshall and
talent manager Pete Riedling at Sony/BMG in Santa Monica
where we talked at length about some of the really cool
and very secret things Tool has cooking this year."
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I found this snippet on Tool's attorney's website. It appears Tool is up to something. The new DVD? Album?
http://attorneyalanjones.com/

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That's the craziest thing I've ever heard of, an attorney who gives updates on his clients...
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That's not crazy, Entertainment lawyers do this all the time. Plus, you would too if you were Adam Jones's brother.
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That's not crazy, Entertainment lawyers do this all the time. Plus, you would too if you were Adam Jones's brother.
I stand corrected, again. Didn't read the fine print, or any print for that matter.
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I found this snippet on Tool's attorney's website. It appears Tool is up to something. The new DVD? Album?
http://attorneyalanjones.com/

"My trip to LA this month was productive, eventful
and fun. I had good meetings with Tool's various
band members, lawyers, cpa and investment advisors.
Plus I met with Tool's label rep Matt Marshall and
talent manager Pete Riedling at Sony/BMG in Santa Monica
where we talked at length about some of the really cool
and very secret things Tool has cooking this year."
Yo thats digging deep for information.... Good work
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:28 AM   #4596
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I found this snippet on Tool's attorney's website. It appears Tool is up to something. The new DVD? Album?
http://attorneyalanjones.com/

"My trip to LA this month was productive, eventful
and fun. I had good meetings with Tool's various
band members, lawyers, cpa and investment advisors.
Plus I met with Tool's label rep Matt Marshall and
talent manager Pete Riedling at Sony/BMG in Santa Monica
where we talked at length about some of the really cool
and very secret things Tool has cooking this year."

Thoughts on this Junior????

You know, we are all "hungry like the wolf" (for Tool anything)

gogogogogogo
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tools pretty average...
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I recently have heard semi-official news about Tool songs being featured in the popular video game Guitar Hero 4. For me I kind of felt disappointed in this news because I thought I remembered hearing in an interview with one of the members that they were totally against putting their music in Guitar Hero because it doesn't encourage kids to learn an actual instrument. Plus in one of Blair's postings he actually made fun of a fan for asking this question. Now I realize Blair's opinion may differ from the actual memebers but does anybody see this as kind of selling out just to get some extra money. (Please no Hooker With A Penis References. I am looking for honest thougts).
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I don't see why the mebers of any real bad would be intelligably anti-guitar hero. If a kid who would otherwise be playing GTA4 picks up Guitar Hero 4, he/she is probably going to be able to connect with music and develop basic rhythm skills and maybe become inspired to pick up an actual instrument. Personally I rarely play videogames but Guitar Hero could have a great effect on the planet, me thinks.
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I recently have heard semi-official news about Tool songs being featured in the popular video game Guitar Hero 4. For me I kind of felt disappointed in this news because I thought I remembered hearing in an interview with one of the members that they were totally against putting their music in Guitar Hero because it doesn't encourage kids to learn an actual instrument. Plus in one of Blair's postings he actually made fun of a fan for asking this question. Now I realize Blair's opinion may differ from the actual memebers but does anybody see this as kind of selling out just to get some extra money. (Please no Hooker With A Penis References. I am looking for honest thougts).
I actually hope the do a Tool only Guitar Hero or Rock Band game. the idea of selling out is totally absurd to me. Bands that make careers out of making music have the goal of making it big.
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