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I always thought the name hooker with a penis was rather gross. But thats just me. I mean seriously maynard has a sick and twisted sense of humour/wit.
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I always thought the name hooker with a penis was rather gross. But thats just me. I mean seriously maynard has a sick and twisted sense of humour/wit.
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I really can't believe how many different threads have gone up on this topic! I've heard everyone's opinion so many times that I wouldn't be surprised to see "10,000 Days Supporter" or "Say NO to 10,000 Days" in signatures or titles. I maintain that I don't care what the album/songs are titled. I'll only have to read the title once or twice... I'll be listening to the songs until my ears bleed.
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I really can't believe how many different threads have gone up on this topic! I've heard everyone's opinion so many times that I wouldn't be surprised to see "10,000 Days Supporter" or "Say NO to 10,000 Days" in signatures or titles. I maintain that I don't care what the album/songs are titled. I'll only have to read the title once or twice... I'll be listening to the songs until my ears bleed.
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well said. who cares what the title is. if there are people who are so concerned with what the title is then i have a suggestion.......go home tonight and replace all of the titles and liner notes on all the cd's that you own with ones that you approve of. and when you buy "10,000 Days" you can replace it with some obscure title that makes your heart go pitter patter and that makes the music sound better. oh wait, the title doesn't effect the music and how it sounds. are you serious...........
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well said. who cares what the title is. if there are people who are so concerned with what the title is then i have a suggestion.......go home tonight and replace all of the titles and liner notes on all the cd's that you own with ones that you approve of. and when you buy "10,000 Days" you can replace it with some obscure title that makes your heart go pitter patter and that makes the music sound better. oh wait, the title doesn't effect the music and how it sounds. are you serious...........
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im sorry but we have been waiting for 5 years now. i expected some obscure title that would need extreme analysis, but we get a title that has a number in it and that makes it somehow have less of a meaning and too exact. True, we need to dig deeper but i expected more, well, originality. And titles do mean something in TOOL land as they usually give some way of understanding the song and/or the album
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im sorry but we have been waiting for 5 years now. i expected some obscure title that would need extreme analysis, but we get a title that has a number in it and that makes it somehow have less of a meaning and too exact. True, we need to dig deeper but i expected more, well, originality. And titles do mean something in TOOL land as they usually give some way of understanding the song and/or the album
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it's totally idle to sit here and analyze an album that hasnt even come out yet on the pretense of a title that we arent even sure is legitimate
besides, why do people care so much that the album might be titled 10,000 days? people need to stop deifying this band. they dont have answers to your problems, they cant provide you a meaning of life. theyre artists, not scientists, or mathematicians, or historians or psychologists.
maybe if people didnt have such unreal expectations of this band there wouldnt be such a significant turnover of support everytime their new albums come out
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Why analyze the album title?
it's totally idle to sit here and analyze an album that hasnt even come out yet on the pretense of a title that we arent even sure is legitimate
besides, why do people care so much that the album might be titled 10,000 days? people need to stop deifying this band. they dont have answers to your problems, they cant provide you a meaning of life. theyre artists, not scientists, or mathematicians, or historians or psychologists.
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im sorry but we have been waiting for 5 years now. i expected some obscure title that would need extreme analysis, but we get a title that has a number in it and that makes it somehow have less of a meaning and too exact. True, we need to dig deeper but i expected more, well, originality. And titles do mean something in TOOL land as they usually give some way of understanding the song and/or the album
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I can't say I've ever taken the title of a Tool song into consideration while I try to figure out what it means (to me.) The title is about 1% of the song (if that) so it's a waste of time to sit and analyse the hell out of it... especially before you even hear that bloody song. If I really took the title "Stinkfist" into consideration while I thought about that song, it wouldn't make any sense at all outside the surface level lyrical content. I find the title of their songs requires just as much thought as the lyrics do. Who, off the top of their head, actually understood the theory of "46 & 2"? Especially enough to USE the title of the song to help understand the song? When I look at all of the previous albums, I have yet to be disappointed by titles or lyrical content, so I would expect the trend to continue.
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im sorry but we have been waiting for 5 years now. i expected some obscure title that would need extreme analysis, but we get a title that has a number in it and that makes it somehow have less of a meaning and too exact. True, we need to dig deeper but i expected more, well, originality. And titles do mean something in TOOL land as they usually give some way of understanding the song and/or the album
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I can't say I've ever taken the title of a Tool song into consideration while I try to figure out what it means (to me.) The title is about 1% of the song (if that) so it's a waste of time to sit and analyse the hell out of it... especially before you even hear that bloody song. If I really took the title "Stinkfist" into consideration while I thought about that song, it wouldn't make any sense at all outside the surface level lyrical content. I find the title of their songs requires just as much thought as the lyrics do. Who, off the top of their head, actually understood the theory of "46 & 2"? Especially enough to USE the title of the song to help understand the song? When I look at all of the previous albums, I have yet to be disappointed by titles or lyrical content, so I would expect the trend to continue.
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it's totally idle to sit here and analyze an album that hasnt even come out yet on the pretense of a title that we arent even sure is legitimate
besides, why do people care so much that the album might be titled 10,000 days? people need to stop deifying this band. they dont have answers to your problems, they cant provide you a meaning of life. theyre artists, not scientists, or mathematicians, or historians or psychologists.
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it's totally idle to sit here and analyze an album that hasnt even come out yet on the pretense of a title that we arent even sure is legitimate
besides, why do people care so much that the album might be titled 10,000 days? people need to stop deifying this band. they dont have answers to your problems, they cant provide you a meaning of life. theyre artists, not scientists, or mathematicians, or historians or psychologists.
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dont get me wrong... im a definitely a fan of tool, but maybe while these guys are waiting, i dunno maybe branch out and listen to some other progressive stuff... because no mater how much you analyse, you're not going to get anything remotely genuine until you have the cd in your hands....
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dont get me wrong... im a definitely a fan of tool, but maybe while these guys are waiting, i dunno maybe branch out and listen to some other progressive stuff... because no mater how much you analyse, you're not going to get anything remotely genuine until you have the cd in your hands....
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stop the speculation and go on with your lives.... i only check here to see if there is anything worth wild.. which most of the time there isnt..
im sure you all have better things to do with your life, put your time somewhere else
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Re: Why analyze the album title?
stop the speculation and go on with your lives.... i only check here to see if there is anything worth wild.. which most of the time there isnt..
im sure you all have better things to do with your life, put your time somewhere else
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stop the speculation and go on with your lives.... i only check here to see if there is anything worth wild.. which most of the time there isnt..
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stop the speculation and go on with your lives.... i only check here to see if there is anything worth wild.. which most of the time there isnt..
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Who cares it's just a title.
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So I was driving home from signing the contract to sell my house today, and I started thinking about something. I was thinking about all the "HYPE" surrounding the new Tool album - all the secrecy. Tool has never been this secretive about an album before. Why so long to release an album title? And why not release the track listing?
What other band do you know that goes around the world promoting a nameless album? I can't think of any. Tool is allowing the opportunity for extreme hype to exist with this album while they act as though they do not care. And they probably don't care. That has always been the attitude of the band. Something like, "We do what we want, when we want and how we want. If you don't like it, tough."
It sucks for fthe fans in times like these to deal with a band who follows a creed like that. But eventually, this new album will become available on May 2nd for all to enjoy. And it doesn't matter what you think about the album title now because you haven't even heard a note of music yet. "Ten Thousand Days" are just three words with no meaning right now.
Unfortunately, most of you have fallen victim to the "HYPE". You get yourself all worked up about why the album title hasn't been released, and when it is released, it can't possibly meet your emotional expectations. What will be next? What color will the CD be? Black? Red? "I hate red CDs. A red CD with 10,000 Days written on it sucks." Will you sound like that?
The bottom line is this:
Ask yourself: Do I like the way Maynard's voice sounds? Do I like Danny's drumming? What about Adam and Justin's guitar sound? Have I liked alot of Tool music from previous albums? If you answered yes to those questions, then you will like the new album to some degree. It is that simple. So I recommend that you take each bit of new info as it comes, and enjoy the fact that it is new. Then, wait to make any judgements on the new album until after you have heard the whole thing in a comfortable setting.
I usually have to hear new music about 3 or 4 times before I can even make a sound judgement as to whether I like it.
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Re: The condensed "bitching about the title one way or another" thread
So I was driving home from signing the contract to sell my house today, and I started thinking about something. I was thinking about all the "HYPE" surrounding the new Tool album - all the secrecy. Tool has never been this secretive about an album before. Why so long to release an album title? And why not release the track listing?
What other band do you know that goes around the world promoting a nameless album? I can't think of any. Tool is allowing the opportunity for extreme hype to exist with this album while they act as though they do not care. And they probably don't care. That has always been the attitude of the band. Something like, "We do what we want, when we want and how we want. If you don't like it, tough."
It sucks for fthe fans in times like these to deal with a band who follows a creed like that. But eventually, this new album will become available on May 2nd for all to enjoy. And it doesn't matter what you think about the album title now because you haven't even heard a note of music yet. "Ten Thousand Days" are just three words with no meaning right now.
Unfortunately, most of you have fallen victim to the "HYPE". You get yourself all worked up about why the album title hasn't been released, and when it is released, it can't possibly meet your emotional expectations. What will be next? What color will the CD be? Black? Red? "I hate red CDs. A red CD with 10,000 Days written on it sucks." Will you sound like that?
The bottom line is this:
Ask yourself: Do I like the way Maynard's voice sounds? Do I like Danny's drumming? What about Adam and Justin's guitar sound? Have I liked alot of Tool music from previous albums? If you answered yes to those questions, then you will like the new album to some degree. It is that simple. So I recommend that you take each bit of new info as it comes, and enjoy the fact that it is new. Then, wait to make any judgements on the new album until after you have heard the whole thing in a comfortable setting.
I usually have to hear new music about 3 or 4 times before I can even make a sound judgement as to whether I like it.
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Justin Case, eh?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095420/
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http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/index.cfm/Action/DA/ActorID/5002/Justin_Case/
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besides, why do people care so much that the album might be titled 10,000 days? people need to stop deifying this band. they dont have answers to your problems, they cant provide you a meaning of life. theyre artists, not scientists, or mathematicians, or historians or psychologists.
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except art can express just as much truth as the sciences.
sorry, try again.
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besides, why do people care so much that the album might be titled 10,000 days? people need to stop deifying this band. they dont have answers to your problems, they cant provide you a meaning of life. theyre artists, not scientists, or mathematicians, or historians or psychologists.
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sorry, try again.
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You know, I don't care what lesson any member of the band has tried to teach me or anyone else that will listen, by implying/stating that track and album titles are not important, but for me, they are.
The title is sort of a defining point or thought reference of a song (or an album). It either closes off irrelevant notions about the song (as in, this song is called ticks and leeches, therefore it is not about warm thanksgiving dinners), or gives the listener a broad inspiring open-ended setting to start from as he listens (when you know the title of a song is PARABOLA, or LATERALUS, you don't correllate anything in particular to the song as the titles are just so mysterious and open-ended, that your mind generates it's own thoughts and emotions, inspired by the broadness of the title.
Having said that, the titles we've been told as of now, especially the title of the new album just doesnt sit well. They have no ispiring or interesting base to work from and for me feel like, that when I listen to the new album and remember the title of the great song i just heard, it'll be kind of a downer, "well... yeah... Lost Keys.. whatever..".
Maybe im just analyzing this shit a bit too much instead of letting the music be the music, but its understandable seeing as thats all we have right now are titles, and no music.
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this whole album is about apocalypse all over again.
the whole vietnam/atlantis/jesus shit
Flood/Aenema we're all guna die
They're pissed off... this album is about bush for sure. wasn't it 10,000 days ago that Bush 1st was elected president? or weas the reagan?
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You know, I don't care what lesson any member of the band has tried to teach me or anyone else that will listen, by implying/stating that track and album titles are not important, but for me, they are.
The title is sort of a defining point or thought reference of a song (or an album). It either closes off irrelevant notions about the song (as in, this song is called ticks and leeches, therefore it is not about warm thanksgiving dinners), or gives the listener a broad inspiring open-ended setting to start from as he listens (when you know the title of a song is PARABOLA, or LATERALUS, you don't correllate anything in particular to the song as the titles are just so mysterious and open-ended, that your mind generates it's own thoughts and emotions, inspired by the broadness of the title.
Having said that, the titles we've been told as of now, especially the title of the new album just doesnt sit well. They have no ispiring or interesting base to work from and for me feel like, that when I listen to the new album and remember the title of the great song i just heard, it'll be kind of a downer, "well... yeah... Lost Keys.. whatever..".
Maybe im just analyzing this shit a bit too much instead of letting the music be the music, but its understandable seeing as thats all we have right now are titles, and no music.
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this whole album is about apocalypse all over again.
the whole vietnam/atlantis/jesus shit
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i think the title to this thread is shitty. But I'm not going to complain about it.
ps - Lateralus is a good song.
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i think the title to this thread is shitty. But I'm not going to complain about it.
ps - Lateralus is a good song.
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So I was driving home from signing the contract to sell my house today, and I started thinking about something. I was thinking about all the "HYPE" surrounding the new Tool album - all the secrecy. Tool has never been this secretive about an album before. Why so long to release an album title? And why not release the track listing?
What other band do you know that goes around the world promoting a nameless album? I can't think of any. Tool is allowing the opportunity for extreme hype to exist with this album while they act as though they do not care. And they probably don't care. That has always been the attitude of the band. Something like, "We do what we want, when we want and how we want. If you don't like it, tough."
It sucks for fthe fans in times like these to deal with a band who follows a creed like that. But eventually, this new album will become available on May 2nd for all to enjoy. And it doesn't matter what you think about the album title now because you haven't even heard a note of music yet. "Ten Thousand Days" are just three words with no meaning right now.
Unfortunately, most of you have fallen victim to the "HYPE". You get yourself all worked up about why the album title hasn't been released, and when it is released, it can't possibly meet your emotional expectations. What will be next? What color will the CD be? Black? Red? "I hate red CDs. A red CD with 10,000 Days written on it sucks." Will you sound like that?
The bottom line is this:
Ask yourself: Do I like the way Maynard's voice sounds? Do I like Danny's drumming? What about Adam and Justin's guitar sound? Have I liked alot of Tool music from previous albums? If you answered yes to those questions, then you will like the new album to some degree. It is that simple. So I recommend that you take each bit of new info as it comes, and enjoy the fact that it is new. Then, wait to make any judgements on the new album until after you have heard the whole thing in a comfortable setting.
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Originally Posted by flipmojo
So I was driving home from signing the contract to sell my house today, and I started thinking about something. I was thinking about all the "HYPE" surrounding the new Tool album - all the secrecy. Tool has never been this secretive about an album before. Why so long to release an album title? And why not release the track listing?
What other band do you know that goes around the world promoting a nameless album? I can't think of any. Tool is allowing the opportunity for extreme hype to exist with this album while they act as though they do not care. And they probably don't care. That has always been the attitude of the band. Something like, "We do what we want, when we want and how we want. If you don't like it, tough."
It sucks for fthe fans in times like these to deal with a band who follows a creed like that. But eventually, this new album will become available on May 2nd for all to enjoy. And it doesn't matter what you think about the album title now because you haven't even heard a note of music yet. "Ten Thousand Days" are just three words with no meaning right now.
Unfortunately, most of you have fallen victim to the "HYPE". You get yourself all worked up about why the album title hasn't been released, and when it is released, it can't possibly meet your emotional expectations. What will be next? What color will the CD be? Black? Red? "I hate red CDs. A red CD with 10,000 Days written on it sucks." Will you sound like that?
The bottom line is this:
Ask yourself: Do I like the way Maynard's voice sounds? Do I like Danny's drumming? What about Adam and Justin's guitar sound? Have I liked alot of Tool music from previous albums? If you answered yes to those questions, then you will like the new album to some degree. It is that simple. So I recommend that you take each bit of new info as it comes, and enjoy the fact that it is new. Then, wait to make any judgements on the new album until after you have heard the whole thing in a comfortable setting.
I usually have to hear new music about 3 or 4 times before I can even make a sound judgement as to whether I like it.
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i think the title to this thread is shitty. But I'm not going to complain about it.
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So I was driving home from signing the contract to sell my house today, and I started thinking about something. I was thinking about all the "HYPE" surrounding the new Tool album - all the secrecy. Tool has never been this secretive about an album before. Why so long to release an album title? And why not release the track listing?
What other band do you know that goes around the world promoting a nameless album? I can't think of any. Tool is allowing the opportunity for extreme hype to exist with this album while they act as though they do not care. And they probably don't care. That has always been the attitude of the band. Something like, "We do what we want, when we want and how we want. If you don't like it, tough."
It sucks for fthe fans in times like these to deal with a band who follows a creed like that. But eventually, this new album will become available on May 2nd for all to enjoy. And it doesn't matter what you think about the album title now because you haven't even heard a note of music yet. "Ten Thousand Days" are just three words with no meaning right now.
Unfortunately, most of you have fallen victim to the "HYPE". You get yourself all worked up about why the album title hasn't been released, and when it is released, it can't possibly meet your emotional expectations. What will be next? What color will the CD be? Black? Red? "I hate red CDs. A red CD with 10,000 Days written on it sucks." Will you sound like that?
The bottom line is this:
Ask yourself: Do I like the way Maynard's voice sounds? Do I like Danny's drumming? What about Adam and Justin's guitar sound? Have I liked alot of Tool music from previous albums? If you answered yes to those questions, then you will like the new album to some degree. It is that simple. So I recommend that you take each bit of new info as it comes, and enjoy the fact that it is new. Then, wait to make any judgements on the new album until after you have heard the whole thing in a comfortable setting.
I usually have to hear new music about 3 or 4 times before I can even make a sound judgement as to whether I like it.
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i have been a TOOL fan since i first heard undertow, loved it and everything they have done since, been reading these boards for a long time, finally decided to join and post, i agree with flipmojo 100%, i will listen to this new album all day everyday for months, probably years, like i have done with lateralus, and personally i couldnt give a fuck what the album title is.
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Originally Posted by flipmojo
So I was driving home from signing the contract to sell my house today, and I started thinking about something. I was thinking about all the "HYPE" surrounding the new Tool album - all the secrecy. Tool has never been this secretive about an album before. Why so long to release an album title? And why not release the track listing?
What other band do you know that goes around the world promoting a nameless album? I can't think of any. Tool is allowing the opportunity for extreme hype to exist with this album while they act as though they do not care. And they probably don't care. That has always been the attitude of the band. Something like, "We do what we want, when we want and how we want. If you don't like it, tough."
It sucks for fthe fans in times like these to deal with a band who follows a creed like that. But eventually, this new album will become available on May 2nd for all to enjoy. And it doesn't matter what you think about the album title now because you haven't even heard a note of music yet. "Ten Thousand Days" are just three words with no meaning right now.
Unfortunately, most of you have fallen victim to the "HYPE". You get yourself all worked up about why the album title hasn't been released, and when it is released, it can't possibly meet your emotional expectations. What will be next? What color will the CD be? Black? Red? "I hate red CDs. A red CD with 10,000 Days written on it sucks." Will you sound like that?
The bottom line is this:
Ask yourself: Do I like the way Maynard's voice sounds? Do I like Danny's drumming? What about Adam and Justin's guitar sound? Have I liked alot of Tool music from previous albums? If you answered yes to those questions, then you will like the new album to some degree. It is that simple. So I recommend that you take each bit of new info as it comes, and enjoy the fact that it is new. Then, wait to make any judgements on the new album until after you have heard the whole thing in a comfortable setting.
I usually have to hear new music about 3 or 4 times before I can even make a sound judgement as to whether I like it.
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i have been a TOOL fan since i first heard undertow, loved it and everything they have done since, been reading these boards for a long time, finally decided to join and post, i agree with flipmojo 100%, i will listen to this new album all day everyday for months, probably years, like i have done with lateralus, and personally i couldnt give a fuck what the album title is.
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i know alot of people have been criticizing what is percieved to be the new albums title: 10,000 days. Instead of writing it off as uninspired, i figured if this is the title there must be a reason, so i did some research....here is what i found....which seemed plausible to me.....there is a novel entitled 10,000 days, by an author named Kenneth Royce...the books he has written deal with goverment, stalin, the nazi regime, etc. and he seems to be the type of free thinker which is willing to fight for a cause, that would intrigue the band....as i believe he started and the residing head of Free state wyoming, a group advocating political liberty...as for the book itself, the title 10,000 days is in refrence to a rough estimate that the world has enough oil to fuel mankind for 27 years...which amounts to 10,000 days...so thats what i found, i don't know if it makes sense, or if it sheds light on anything....but i thought it was plausible, with all the talk that the band has been inspired politicaly, and our current situation in the world today, and the decisions which revolve around oil....this along with the groups prior tendency to pay homage to philopsophers, scientests, entertainers, etc....i thought there may be some weight to this...than again i could be wrong....either way i cant wait for the new cd to come out....and im sure we won't be dissapointed
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the meaning behind 10,000 days? (my thought)
i know alot of people have been criticizing what is percieved to be the new albums title: 10,000 days. Instead of writing it off as uninspired, i figured if this is the title there must be a reason, so i did some research....here is what i found....which seemed plausible to me.....there is a novel entitled 10,000 days, by an author named Kenneth Royce...the books he has written deal with goverment, stalin, the nazi regime, etc. and he seems to be the type of free thinker which is willing to fight for a cause, that would intrigue the band....as i believe he started and the residing head of Free state wyoming, a group advocating political liberty...as for the book itself, the title 10,000 days is in refrence to a rough estimate that the world has enough oil to fuel mankind for 27 years...which amounts to 10,000 days...so thats what i found, i don't know if it makes sense, or if it sheds light on anything....but i thought it was plausible, with all the talk that the band has been inspired politicaly, and our current situation in the world today, and the decisions which revolve around oil....this along with the groups prior tendency to pay homage to philopsophers, scientests, entertainers, etc....i thought there may be some weight to this...than again i could be wrong....either way i cant wait for the new cd to come out....and im sure we won't be dissapointed
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It was Blair fucking about or something. No Meaning.
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Not... another... one....
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I think 10,000 days is a metaphor for the 10,000 interpretations that will come out of the title before the album is released.
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I think 10,000 days is a metaphor for the 10,000 interpretations that will come out of the title before the album is released.
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I think 10,000 days is a metaphor for the 10,000 interpretations that will come out of the title before the album is released.
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I think 10,000 days is a metaphor for the 10,000 interpretations that will come out of the title before the album is released.
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Why are so many users upset about people posting their interpretation of the title? With no new news being posted there's only one way to fill the time.
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Why are so many users upset about people posting their interpretation of the title? With no new news being posted there's only one way to fill the time.
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Well RMFLAHERTY, you did not say it particularly eloquently, but for a first post thank you.
If there are 10,000 interpretations I would love to hear every one. Your one makes a lot of sense. Maynard has said that he hopes the new album will initiate thought. Our wastage of our natural resources is one area that we are all guilty of ignoring in so way or another...
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Well RMFLAHERTY, you did not say it particularly eloquently, but for a first post thank you.
If there are 10,000 interpretations I would love to hear every one. Your one makes a lot of sense. Maynard has said that he hopes the new album will initiate thought. Our wastage of our natural resources is one area that we are all guilty of ignoring in so way or another...
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You know, I don't care what lesson any member of the band has tried to teach me or anyone else that will listen, by implying/stating that track and album titles are not important, but for me, they are.
The title is sort of a defining point or thought reference of a song (or an album). It either closes off irrelevant notions about the song (as in, this song is called ticks and leeches, therefore it is not about warm thanksgiving dinners), or gives the listener a broad inspiring open-ended setting to start from as he listens (when you know the title of a song is PARABOLA, or LATERALUS, you don't correllate anything in particular to the song as the titles are just so mysterious and open-ended, that your mind generates it's own thoughts and emotions, inspired by the broadness of the title.
Having said that, the titles we've been told as of now, especially the title of the new album just doesnt sit well. They have no ispiring or interesting base to work from and for me feel like, that when I listen to the new album and remember the title of the great song i just heard, it'll be kind of a downer, "well... yeah... Lost Keys.. whatever..".
Maybe im just analyzing this shit a bit too much instead of letting the music be the music, but its understandable seeing as thats all we have right now are titles, and no music.
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The album has not been released, therefore, you can not judge the MUSIC. you see, you have to LISTEN to the music before you can judge it. anything else that you are bitching about is petty Linkin park bullshit.
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You know, I don't care what lesson any member of the band has tried to teach me or anyone else that will listen, by implying/stating that track and album titles are not important, but for me, they are.
The title is sort of a defining point or thought reference of a song (or an album). It either closes off irrelevant notions about the song (as in, this song is called ticks and leeches, therefore it is not about warm thanksgiving dinners), or gives the listener a broad inspiring open-ended setting to start from as he listens (when you know the title of a song is PARABOLA, or LATERALUS, you don't correllate anything in particular to the song as the titles are just so mysterious and open-ended, that your mind generates it's own thoughts and emotions, inspired by the broadness of the title.
Having said that, the titles we've been told as of now, especially the title of the new album just doesnt sit well. They have no ispiring or interesting base to work from and for me feel like, that when I listen to the new album and remember the title of the great song i just heard, it'll be kind of a downer, "well... yeah... Lost Keys.. whatever..".
Maybe im just analyzing this shit a bit too much instead of letting the music be the music, but its understandable seeing as thats all we have right now are titles, and no music.
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i know alot of people have been criticizing what is percieved to be the new albums title: 10,000 days. Instead of writing it off as uninspired, i figured if this is the title there must be a reason, so i did some research....here is what i found....which seemed plausible to me.....there is a novel entitled 10,000 days, by an author named Kenneth Royce...the books he has written deal with goverment, stalin, the nazi regime, etc. and he seems to be the type of free thinker which is willing to fight for a cause, that would intrigue the band....as i believe he started and the residing head of Free state wyoming, a group advocating political liberty...as for the book itself, the title 10,000 days is in refrence to a rough estimate that the world has enough oil to fuel mankind for 27 years...which amounts to 10,000 days...so thats what i found, i don't know if it makes sense, or if it sheds light on anything....but i thought it was plausible, with all the talk that the band has been inspired politicaly, and our current situation in the world today, and the decisions which revolve around oil....this along with the groups prior tendency to pay homage to philopsophers, scientests, entertainers, etc....i thought there may be some weight to this...than again i could be wrong....either way i cant wait for the new cd to come out....and im sure we won't be dissapointed
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i know alot of people have been criticizing what is percieved to be the new albums title: 10,000 days. Instead of writing it off as uninspired, i figured if this is the title there must be a reason, so i did some research....here is what i found....which seemed plausible to me.....there is a novel entitled 10,000 days, by an author named Kenneth Royce...the books he has written deal with goverment, stalin, the nazi regime, etc. and he seems to be the type of free thinker which is willing to fight for a cause, that would intrigue the band....as i believe he started and the residing head of Free state wyoming, a group advocating political liberty...as for the book itself, the title 10,000 days is in refrence to a rough estimate that the world has enough oil to fuel mankind for 27 years...which amounts to 10,000 days...so thats what i found, i don't know if it makes sense, or if it sheds light on anything....but i thought it was plausible, with all the talk that the band has been inspired politicaly, and our current situation in the world today, and the decisions which revolve around oil....this along with the groups prior tendency to pay homage to philopsophers, scientests, entertainers, etc....i thought there may be some weight to this...than again i could be wrong....either way i cant wait for the new cd to come out....and im sure we won't be dissapointed
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I like the merger
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Re: The condensed "discussion about the title one way or another" thread
I like the merger
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