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Old 03-24-2006, 03:21 AM   #1
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How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

Hi guys.... well thats my question.

please help me out on this here...

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Old 03-24-2006, 03:35 AM   #2
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

I suppose you are going to rip your Lateralus cd to mp3, am I correct?

Anyway, it depends on the quality you choose for those mp3s. you know, you can choose the sound quality when you rip them. Certainly sound quality gets lost, but does it really matter? I mean, it´s not going to be cd-quality anymore, but at least it´s still quite listenable and if you just want to listen them on mp3-player then you shouldn´t worry too much.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:45 AM   #3
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I suppose you are going to rip your Lateralus cd to mp3, am I correct?

Anyway, it depends on the quality you choose for those mp3s. you know, you can choose the sound quality when you rip them. Certainly sound quality gets lost, but does it really matter? I mean, it´s not going to be cd-quality anymore, but at least it´s still quite listenable and if you just want to listen them on mp3-player then you shouldn´t worry too much.
CDs are 192kbps, I think. I'm not 100% sure but if you try to rip it at anything above that it'll sound the same anyway.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:51 AM   #4
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

Yeah, you can´t make a better quality rip from a lower quality recording...


Anyway, mp3 kinda takes shit out of the music file. It leaves out frequencies/stuff that you don´t necessarely hear and lowers the quality of the recording. But this may not be noticeable to human ear, or it may, it all depends.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:57 AM   #5
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

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CDs are 192kbps, I think. I'm not 100% sure but if you try to rip it at anything above that it'll sound the same anyway.
I thought it was 1400kbps.

Regardless, just rip your cds using this guide and you won't notice any audible difference.
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/arch...deneaclame.cfm
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

You can tell the difference if you have audio files that are .wav or .au the quality is obvious to that of .mp3 Basically mp3 is very compressed, making it suck a bit.

Plus, I was wrong. CDs are 1411kbps.
So I guess 1411kbps to 320kbps is still a huge drop.
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Nope, regardless of what some audiophile nut says, I can guarentee you would not be able to tell the difference between a CD and an mp3 ripped at 192kbps vbr.
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When using samples I would always chose wav and au over an mp3.
Given the choice I would always record to wav.
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

cool thx for the answers!! :-) i guess there are still a few people here not completely braindead.. thank you for that!
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CDs are 192kbps, I think.
700 MB / 80 min = 149.3333 kByte/sec = 1194.66667 kbit/sec
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

Way to totally nerd up the thread brightwell.
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

Normally, for any CD, I don't rip to anything less than 256kbits/sec. For listening out loud on the your computer speakers, that quality is fine. You don't lose much information and it sounds good. But really, there is nothing better than the actual CD. Mp3 is lossy and you lose a lot of high frequencies. The cymbals especially come through much clearer on the CD. And you also get an overall warmer sound.
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

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Hi guys.... well thats my question.

please help me out on this here...

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I actually took a song and made a .mp3 copy, then a .wav copy and played the wav first..took note of how it sounded, then played the mp3.....I did infact notice a difference......the mp3 was not so shitty that it was horrible to listen to (of course) but the wav really does sound better.....more crisp, or natural or something.......its just not compressed the hell out of the sound. Let me put it this way....Lateralus and aenima are the only to albums I will keep as wavs on my hard-drive.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:36 AM   #14
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Re: How much soundquality gets lost when i Rip the CD to Mp3!?!

I cry bullshit on this thread.
Let's debunk some myths from both camps here, and establish some facts:
- No, a CD is not 192kbps. A CD is usually (read: 999.999 times out of a million) 1411kbit per second / 44.1kHz / 16 bits per sample
- Yes, there is a difference in sound quality between a CD and an mp3, however
- If you rip your music properly, you will not be able to tell the difference in a double-blind test. Not now, not ever.

However, it is possible to tell the difference between a CD and a well-ripped and well-encoded mp3, if and only if (AND ONLY ONLY IF! I cant stress this enough!) you have trained your ears specifically to hear this difference.
I, personally, can easily tell the difference between a 192kbps mp3 and a CD. So leefnaspleaf is only partially right. Only a very very few people on this planet, however, can differentiate an mp3 encoded with LAME with mode "-V0 --vbr-new" (High quality encoding preset switch in LAME, vbr and joint-stereo) and a CD.

If you want to rip your music perfectly into mp3, I can suggest this:
- Rip your music with EAC (google it)
- Encode with LAME (google for rarewares) switch -V0 --vbr-new
- Listen to your music in foobar2000
And nobody, I say NOBODY you know, will ever be able to tell the difference between the mp3's you have on your PC and the mint-fresh CD just cleaned in a one part baby blood two parts liquid gold mix. If any "audiophile" claims otherwise, they should prove it to you with a blind ABX test.
Most people even cant tell the difference between a CD and the "-V5" LAME preset.
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