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Old 12-18-2019, 11:14 AM   #6841
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If you saw her twice with Puscifer, then you saw most of her appearances with them.
I think she only did 2 or 3 shows. 4 at the most. I could be forgetting things.
She never did any of the Puscifer tours that I recall, only the Pearl in Vegas and Club Nokia mini-stands.
Yep, Vegss and Nokia. Man those first Puscifer shows at the Pearl were AMAZING.

On a side note, I know you worked on the TCH Show and I was sad to read about the passing of Chuy. Not sure if you were friends, but my condolences nonetheless.
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"Yeah Tool is fucking amazing. But there’s a big chunk of their fan base that think they’ve become thought provoking geniuses just from listening to them."
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:26 AM   #6842
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Yep, Vegss and Nokia. Man those first Puscifer shows at the Pearl were AMAZING.

On a side note, I know you worked on the TCH Show and I was sad to read about the passing of Chuy. Not sure if you were friends, but my condolences nonetheless.
Chuy wasn't a part of the Netflix series that I did, so I never met him, but I know a lot of people from that show who also worked on the previous show and knew him.
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Chuy wasn't a part of the Netflix series that I did, so I never met him, but I know a lot of people from that show who also worked on the previous show and knew him.
Ahhhhhh! That's right, she didn't bring him over.

I wonder if she will do any more episodes for Netflix I thought most of them were excellent
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Ahhhhhh! That's right, she didn't bring him over.

I wonder if she will do any more episodes for Netflix I thought most of them were excellent
I think the talk show is done for good.
She'll probably continue to do specials for them. Not sure, though.
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Old 12-19-2019, 02:58 AM   #6846
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Not surprised. He's been to a few Tool shows, though I haven't seen him at one in a while.
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I’d have to say, this little Author & Punisher rabbit hole Tool lead me down has been very satisfying. I read up on A&P and became interested in the concept...then I saw he was playing with Cattle Decapitation. Upon Hellboy’s recommendations, I consumed the hell out of their new album, loved it, & decided to hit their Seattle show on Tuesday. Holy fuck was that a great decision! Watching A&P from an arms reach away was worth the price of admission alone. The Cattle Decapitation set covered everything I like about Death Atlas, and the crowd was super into it. Tiny venue with a dense pit and the band right in your face— it felt gooooood. Atheist was on the bill, as well... and the hole gets deeper. If you like Pantera, and haven’t heard of Atheist (like myself) — open up your music app of choice and give ‘em a shot. I’ve been ears-deep in Atheist for the last two days. Imagine if Pantera had Dimebag on Bass as well as guitar, and peppered in time-changes as frequently as Tool. They shred, they thrash, they groove, and they were a hell of a lot of fun. Another solid find for regular rotation. That’s 3 new bands for my catalogue if anyone is keeping score. Thanks, Tool, for the breadcrumbs...
Also, I had coincidentally met the drummer for the opener, Vitriol, at a friends house in Portland a while back— which made me feel REAL fucking cool.

...And what a wild ride it has been.
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Re: General Tool Discussion

Atheist are a cool band as well. About as slow as Tool are at making records from memory.

I love small shows, and it's one of the reasons I like grind and punk stuff so much. The atmosphere an energy of a gig in a club rivals even the most spectacular lighting shows.
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I go to a lot of smaller Stoner and Heavy Psych shows but I cant get into grindcore. Agree about club shows they cant be beat. My pals in Fu Manchu still only charge $15 to get in.
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Old 12-28-2019, 04:04 PM   #6850
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So what are the odds they’ll play 7empest before they head downundah? Really looking forward to this trip to AZ. It’s shaping up to be a party- basically my grooms party all flying into PHX for a 16 hour rager. Plane lands at 2pm and we’re planning on playing through till takeoff at 6am Sunday morning.
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So what are the odds they’ll play 7empest before they head downundah? Really looking forward to this trip to AZ. It’s shaping up to be a party- basically my grooms party all flying into PHX for a 16 hour rager. Plane lands at 2pm and we’re planning on playing through till takeoff at 6am Sunday morning.
Very cool!
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Stranger in the room inhales a long pull off the bong & breaks the silence:
“If you look at the first letters used in the all the album names, Tool have used all the Vowels. A E I O U”, Pointing out each letter on the posters across the room. He exhales the hit as he forgets what he was talking about, slowly retracting his finger from the air. Everyone waits for him to continue as they slowly, one by one, go back to what they were doing. Nobody wants him to continue, but then he does.
“Right! It’s the SYLLABLES. The syllables in the song add up to the Fibonacci number. Three point four, or whatever.” Cringe. I feel my neck twitch behind my ear. Shut up, kid. You’re way out of your league. I pull one headphone out and continue staring at my computer screen.
“Yeah these guys turn their songs into math and make it really complicated. All of their work is really deep. I learned one of their songs on guitar, and it’s BY FAR the hardest song I know. You should really listen to these guys!”
This guy can’t be older than 22, maybe 23. He couldn’t have heard of Tool before this year... maybe a wise older brother turned him onto them early? Who knows, but I know this guy. This fan. He’s the fan I used to be, trying to enlighten people about this band I just heard of and their newest album, Lateralus. I can’t help myself.
“What do you mean, turn their songs into math? Like algebra?”, I ask with my best quizzical look. He doesn’t know that I studied music theory through college, and can play most of Tool’s catalogue on bass and guitar, or that I have studied the finite details of the efforts and musicianship displayed in their work. All he knows is that I’m listening, and that’s all he needs.
“Well all their songs are really complicated because they don’t just 1-2-3-4 like normal”, he explains while clapping along and bobbing his head. “Their songs are like 1-2-3-1-2-1-2-3” he recites, while clapping and bobbing a little faster. “And, not just to three, sometimes they count to six, or seven!” He says with honest excitement in his eyes. “You never know when they’re going to change!”
Almost. He’s almost got it. I overcome the urge to elaborate and correct him, but I’ve got a little bit of time left, and I don’t want to discourage him. He’s clearly learned something, and maybe he’ll continue that path. Either way, the show must go on.
“That seems like it would sound terrible. Isn’t music supposed to be a certain way for it to sound like a song?” I ask, pausing the music in my remaining earbud.
He pauses to think about the question. He surprises me with politician-like Q&A athleticism.
“That’s just the thing! These guys are geniuses! They make it work. And it sounds super psychedelic, too. My brother listened to them on mushrooms once, and he said it was like meeting God!”

There it is. Your brother already sounds cooler than you. You should hang out with your brother more. My guess is your brother is probably 6-10 years older than you are, and has seen Tool a handful of times, and you spent your recent teen years wearing that old Tool shirt he left behind when he finally moved out. Your brother probably discovered Tool in high school, sitting on the floor alone in his bedroom. He’s devoted. I know this fan. He’s the fan I used to be. I go to comment on how cool his brother is, but an overwhelming urge to stop keeps the words from passing my mouth. I’ve learned to trust these signs and let the universe guide my next steps. I choose my words carefully.
“Oh yeah? Your brother sounds pretty cool.” I say with a friendly tone as he gathers another hit into the chamber of his bong.
“Um,” he pauses to clear the smoke and exhales. “Well, he died last year.” He says. I can see the THC fill the capillaries in his face, and his eyes gloss over as he stairs at the corner of the table. “He lived in Seattle a couple years ago, then one day my mom got a call that he OD’ed.”
Wow. This guy is an extrovert, isn’t he? Welp, here we are. “I’m so sorry. That couldn’t have been easy.” I feel like I learn this kids life story in an instant. Abandoned by his influential cool older brother at a pivotal influential time. He didn’t understand why he had to go, and he never got to say goodbye.
“Yeah, but he loved Tool. I still have all his CDs and stuff.” He says, collecting himself. “They’re like, original vintage.”
“And they were your brothers gift to you, so that makes them priceless.” I remind him as I close my laptop and put it in my bag signaling that I’ve got to go. “Hey, you should listen to Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days when you’re thinking about him.” I say, giving myself away as a Tool fan. I see the realization come over him as I walk over to thank my AirBnB host. I put my earbuds back in and tap the ending to Pneuma on my chest as I walk into the city.


Don’t forget- we are all here to take care of each other. Even the annoying rookies that just started their path. Love each other.
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“Longest post of the year goes to...”


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Sorry guys. Sometimes I smoke a bowl and start typing, not realizing how long it is until I hit post. There’s probably a more appropriate place to publish this kind of thing, but y’all are just so cool. Fun fact: this all came from my thumbs on my phone; from my bathroom to yours.
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we're, um. actually. not that cool. in fact, for every character over 280, there is a barely known yet heavily enforced fine. but, it's, uh, it's aggregate, so i'm talking about fractions of a penny here. over time, "not realizing", they add up to a lot.
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Sorry guys. Sometimes I smoke a bowl and start typing, not realizing how long it is until I hit post. There’s probably a more appropriate place to publish this kind of thing, but y’all are just so cool. Fun fact: this all came from my thumbs on my phone; from my bathroom to yours.
Interesting I would have bet "speech to text. "
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Feeling old and reminiscent. Anyone remember seeing tool in a club with MJK out front and shirtless?
First show for me Dec. 4, 1996 in the Ritz in Raleigh, NC.
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feeling old as well
saw tool many times in the sf bay area with mjk out front
at the Berkeley Square (not there anymore)
and a couple of times at the Hotel Utah
for Prison Sex they brought out a small cage and invited a random fan to sit in it for the entire piece, at the end MJK poured water on the guy in the cage making it look like he was urinating on him ...good times
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Feeling old and reminiscent. Anyone remember seeing tool in a club with MJK out front and shirtless?
First show for me Dec. 4, 1996 in the Ritz in Raleigh, NC.
Did you guys ever hear the "We just got back from England and I buttfucked Morrissey" story?
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we're, um. actually. not that cool. in fact, for every character over 280, there is a barely known yet heavily enforced fine. but, it's, uh, it's aggregate, so i'm talking about fractions of a penny here. over time, "not realizing", they add up to a lot.
I guess that’s the price you pay to play the game. Put it in my tab.
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Did you guys ever hear the "We just got back from England and I buttfucked Morrissey" story?
Is Elvis somehow involved ?
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Throw that Ziggy Marley wannabe motherfucker out of here
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Favorite MJK Moment #5

My 2nd Tool show and it's in Tijuana on the roof of the cultural center that seemed to have been a parking garage at one point. If you read my story about the Police confiscating cigarettes and selling them inside, this is the same gig.

The stage was decorated with a huge oak tree that was back and bottom lit, I think it was painted white, it's not clear if the band had brought it or it was supplied by venue.

Prison Sex had just broken big and it was introduced as "a song you're going to hear in elevators soon"

Anyway, it turns out that MJK was pretty frisky that night and after a few songs he talked about just getting back from the UK where he met Morrissey.

It sounded legit at first, being a Smith's fan I was quite intrigued..

But soon the story took a turn.

"So I'm butttfucking Morrissey and I'm slamming him hard, bam bam"

"And then I start rabbit punching him in the back of the head as hard as I fucking can" BAM BAM BAM

Hes pretty demonstrative and acting the story out thrusting his hips and swinging clenched fists as he tagged the imaginary Moz in the head. Both fucking and beating the Pope of Mope at the same time.

The crowd reacted kind of stunned with an uncomfortable sort of laugh.

I was mesmerized standing watching from 30 feet away, having only heard Undertow and parts of Opiate (not gaping lotus, it was cut off my copy) I had no idea these cats were capable of having a sense of humor, albeit a dark and bizzaro one.

I've talked to other folks who heard similar versions of the story from previous dates on the tour so I'm pretty sure it wasn't an hallucination.

I believe the song they broke into was an early version of Stinkfist.

For many years after hearing the Morrissey story, I was certain that MJK was as gay as they come, and had to be convinced he wasn't.
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Ticket bump. Floors for Frenso are being re re'd right now for face on Ticketmaster. Hopefully somebody can grab them they are row 5's both sections 1 and 2.
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Ticket bump. Floors for Frenso are being re re'd right now for face on Ticketmaster. Hopefully somebody can grab them they are row 5's both sections 1 and 2.
Gone I think. But good looking out.

Man the FV price difference between San Jose and Fresno is laughable.
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Gone I think. But good looking out.

Man the FV price difference between San Jose and Fresno is laughable.
$35 in Memphis
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$35 in Memphis
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Gone I think. But good looking out.

Man the FV price difference between San Jose and Fresno is laughable.
Yeah its a swing of about $25 +fees difference. I really wanted to hold off to avoid fees and just hit the box offices day of but ended up picking up lower 116's for SJ and jumped on the floors for Fresno. They were such great seat locations it was worth it to me. Going to wait out Vegas and see how it goes.
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If San Diego gets 7empest, I'll probably pull the trigger on Fresno, it's only 45 mins further than SJ
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If San Diego gets 7empest, I'll probably pull the trigger on Fresno, it's only 45 mins further than SJ
Tool ticket Facebook group member is selling Fresno floor tix for face
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Tool ticket Facebook group member is selling Fresno floor tix for face
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The show last night in SD was incredible. The set list wasn’t anything all that new, but we got Descending and it is flat out amazing.

Want to say something to junior- your work on both Pneuma and Descending is other-worldly. I especially love the lights opening up across the arena like the sun during the chorus of Pneuma. Excellent work.

VIP tomorrow. Will post more later. The band sounds great.
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The show last night in SD was incredible. The set list wasn’t anything all that new, but we got Descending and it is flat out amazing.

Want to say something to junior- your work on both Pneuma and Descending is other-worldly. I especially love the lights opening up across the arena like the sun during the chorus of Pneuma. Excellent work.

VIP tomorrow. Will post more later. The band sounds great.
Would you say better than Staples?
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Got all my plans in place for Glendale. Does anyone have any pro-tips for Gila River Arena? I guess I’ll be Ubering back and forth from Sky Harbor since the light rail only goes so far, and people in my group are poster hungry.
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Hmmm San Diego got The Pot, Merkaba and POM tonight. No Descending
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San Diego VIP experience. (Not me) Found on Reddit:

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It should be noted that while the format of ticket allocations appears to have changed (reportedly to help those who've paid a bunch of money, and don't really have the opportunity to line up hours in advance) the reports that the new guy is a prick seem pretty subjective.

My opinion: VIP seating should just be allocated in order of purchase. The idea of lining up hours in advance seems a little absurd to me in the VIP context - that's the exact opposite of what I'd want to do after dropping that much coin. Surely for $500 a ticket someone can be paid to sort that out.
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Would you say better than Staples?
That first SD show was among the best I have ever seen them. Band energy was great and the sound, while not nearly as loud as Staples, was as good as you can make Viejas sound. For some reason the sound of the second show, even though I was more or less in the same position as night 1, sounded murkier/boomier to me. Plus no Descending meant the set list was not as good. But night 1? Hell ya. That VIP post lotus put up nailed it.

For VIP soundcheck night 2 we got Part Of Me (with Maynard), The Patient (with Maynard) and, once inside, The Pot and FI. It was nice hearing The Patient again after all this time.

So far, it seems like they are alternating Descending with a combo of The Pot/Part Of Me. Not a good trade-off, imo. As soon as you hear "Who are you to wave your finger"... it very likely means you won't get Descending.

I enjoyed the VIP experience overall. First dibs on unsigned merch was great, the food was fine and I really enjoyed multiple conversations with fellow fans. But I may skip it going forward because of the ticket distribution policy, even though I had a great seat. Plus the new VIP experience just cannot compare with what Adam used to do for it. When I show new VIPers the old VIP photos, it's just so far from what it was. I dunno... waffling a bit on it. We'll see.

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Last time they played Glendale they did The Pot/Intolerance, so let’s hope they remember that and go with Descending this go-round!
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This setlist v_v.

I have a feeling I'm still not going to get to see Descending or 7empest this time around
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