But where are you getting the 'r' sound in the first of those two lines? It's an 'oi' sound, there's no 'r'!

Despite your vocal protestations, I can hear phoenetic backup for either "praise" (and derivations thereof) or "poison." The guitars and drums are very active and very loud at the point of this lyric, and sometimes it sounds like "r," sometimes it sounds like "oi." The thing that pushes me toward "praise in" over "poison," is that I do NOT hear a "v" at the end of "Say/Save." So, it comes down to "Say your praise in . . ." or "Say your poison," and the latter seems rather an awkward lyrical construction to be emplooyed by Maynard.

However, even if you are right about it being "poison," I still think that the Zack De La Rocha definition of silence is applicable. Whether Maynard is bashing somebody's tendency toward praise by equating it to silence or he is characterizing silence as poison; I believe that the main thrust of this ending is to draw attention to the detriment caused by remaining silent. "I got no patience now . . . So sick of complacence now . . ."

silence Nietzsche
save your poison
silence Nietzsche
stay out of my way

I looked through the last couple of pages of stuff, but I don't know if anyone has raised this possibility for this line

"chapter the devil with my song"

instead of "sing" "shout" "chant" any other variations

Meh . . .
Still sounds like tempted, to me . . .

Normally I would ridicule you and call you names for a comment as obliviously incorrect as it is....but I'll save that for the next guy.

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deffinately either saturn or center

I think it would be cool if it's saturn kind of tying into "the grudge" but I think its also fine if it's center and I agree that I think its definitely one of those two.

And um oh yeah, pretty sure its "tempted the devil with my song".

Thank you! Hell, I might be wrong, but a lot of enegry went into that post!

[QUOTE=SuccessfullyPriedOpen]Despite your vocal protestations, I can hear phoenetic backup for either "praise" (and derivations thereof) or "poison." The guitars and drums are very active and very loud at the point of this lyric, and sometimes it sounds like "r," sometimes it sounds like "oi." The thing that pushes me toward "praise in" over "poison," is that I do NOT hear a "v" at the end of "Say/Save." So, it comes down to "Say your praise in . . ." or "Say your poison," and the latter seems rather an awkward lyrical construction to be emplooyed by Maynard.

I definitely hear the "r" sound in the word in dispute. But you're right, I don't hear the "v" sound in "save/say" so maybe it is "say your praise" or "say your praise and..." but the Priscian argument I made before still holds water.

Does anyone hear "In love with the dark side I FELL" ?

I have heard it as 'fell' as well as 'found' - it could be either. But, 'found' does rhyme with 'down'. So it's a guess of how likely was Maynard to use the rhyme there? I think pretty good since all the last words in that stanza rhyme with the 'ow' sound.

So while it sounds like either, I'd still wager it's 'found'.

I said FELL 'cause you can FALL in love with something/someone. But they both work. The rhyming of FOUND does makes sense though.

Someone told me it's may be "the dark side I'd (I had) found". Get it?

I don't give a fuck about rhymes though.

GOD enough already! If Maynard doesn't post these fucking lyrics soon, we are all gonna be at each others throats forever!

But I'm still here, givin' blood; keepin' faith
And I'm still here . . .
BE PATIENT

ahahahaha i knew someone would put that on here cuz i was reading these and listening to that song at the same time

Synchronicity makes the world go 'round.

Hey first post here. Hopefully this wasn't already covered somewhere... I only quickly scanned through all 15 pages. Anyway, picking up from the lyrics page, my take on two missing sections starting at:

...
wish it all away
wanna wish it all away

no price you could hold
sway or justify my
giving away my
center

so if i could i'd wish it all away
if i thought tomorrow, they'd take you away

you're my peace of mind
my home
my saturn
just trying to hold on
one more day
...

if that's possible, how about:

"Silent sneetches"

or

"Silence sneetches"

Yeah, okay... just one thing: What the fuck is a sneetch?

Silence bitches
sing your own lyrics
silence bitches
stay out of my way

I pretty much have to concur with this, it's what I hear too

retarded must be like a big conspiracy no one bothers telling me about

"In love with the dark side I'd found" --- it's past tense, as in "the devil and his HAD me down... BUT you changed that all for me"...

it's like people don't even bother knowing the language they speak.

Damn my eyes if they should come from eyes of ogres.
Warm to knead, divide me then I might as well be gone.

Damn my eyes if they should compromise our okra.
Warm chutney, divide me then I might as well be gone.

Goodness, you guys are hard at work at these lyrics. Keep up the good work.

Man, after all the Tool I've listened to, I'm almost skeptical to even try and guess what it is Maynard is saying, especially considering how obscure Maynard's pronounciation can be. And even listening closely to some of these words, it's still so difficult to distinguish what's what, considering, when you TELL yourself that something is being said, you tend to hear it.

I too hope that they soon release the official lyrics, but, something tells me it will take the Tool guys longer with 10,000 Days than any of the other albums to release them. I suspect this because 10,000 Days is, as well all know, not quite linear with some of the things we've come to expect from Tool, based off of Aenima and Lateralus...but then again, when is ANY follow-up of Tool's very linear? Either way, I still think they'll keep us guessing for some time before ending the speculation.

I wonder how often The Tool Page lyrics are updated? I could be wrong, but a lot of the lyrics that are still up have been challenged with well-justified alternatives suggested. For example, the "semi"-official lyrics still maintain the...

"Silent legions"/"Silently Just"...stay out of my way.

Regardless, the more I think about it, the more "Silence, Legions, stay out of my way..." (or something along those lines) seems to make sense, especially considering how optimistic the song seems to end, with, "Shine on forever, shine on Benevolent Sun."

It just makes so much sense to me to think that Maynard would end with those words, given the aggression and power of those last few moments of Jambi...telling the "Legions" (what could be a generalized or perhaps not so generalized term for these dark forces) to stay away from him, and spare him the temptations and influences. "Save your poison."

And as for the "Jambi/Damn My/Dim My", like I said above, whenever I consider one, and listen, I hear it. But when I consider the other, I hear that too. That's why, I suppose, I'll just wait to see what Maynard himself has to say about it, before I make any conclusions.

I really respect this community's efforts in trying to determine the "true" lyrics, though. Once again, keep up the good work.

yeah, it's "tempted." it's pretty clear on live versions and it's all the same on different ones, so it's not him changing the words for it.

alright... I just listened to the end again
I'm changing my vote

"Silence leech and save your poison.
Silence leech and stay out of my way."

That's the truth!

It's a conspiracy to you because you don't know you're the fucking retard.

"In love with the dark side I FELL" is in past tense.

it's like people don't even bother FUCKING READING

Retard

Calm down dude.

I believe he says "save your preachings" instead of "save your poison."

"Tempted the Devil with my PSALM."

Meh.

oohhhh.... perchance.

i think that.......... but i think it might be "leeches".......(plural)

Sorry.

Let me dumb it down a bit.

There's a distinct difference between Simple Past Tense and Past Perfect Tense. What I was referring to was the Perfect Past (i.e. HAD found) and what you are claiming is that Simple Past=Past Perfect.

Simple Past Tense just makes sure the reader/listener understands that something happened. Past Perfect makes it clear that the event happened PREVIOUSLY (as in BEFORE the next line "But you changed that all for me"), and didn't just "happen". There's a sort of CAUSALITY that's hinted at in the lyric ["The Devil and his had me down, in love with the dark side I'd found/But you changed that all for me..."] that doesn't appear in your version.

BUT, let's look at your lyric: "In love with the dark side, I fell" --- in the actual lyric (or, most people's understanding) the "dark side" is clearly labelled as something that the narrator found (internal or external; doesn't matter),yet your interpretation makes no such concession. THE dark side is rather ambiguous and it's 'origin'/'necessary universal understanding' is lacking. THAT MEANS that we, as listeners, have no fucking clue what "THE DARK SIDE" is or could be, unless we revert to the Star Wars mythology, which is something that might fit in with "Rosetta Stoned" but certainly not in "Jambi".