DON IOTAE

hey tonsh! i didnt know you were a tool fan!

it's you, antoinette. right?

sonnyboy11

Well, Paul left of his own accord afaik. And Tool was a different band after he left, no doubt. Their music definitely reflects that huge change since I think Lateralus (for example) is quite different than the first EP and Opiate due in no small part to the departure of Paul and the addition of Justin.

That said, whenever Tool does something off of Opiate or Undertow (the material for both was written at the same time) I usually do not think of it as being different without Paul there. But there are some old school fans around here who still miss that guy, even tho Justin is obviously amazing.

jwb

Actually, he got the boot...
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featu...2006/tool.aspx

tonci

who's antoinette?..not me..but yeah, I'm a tool fan

oualt-edu

i am pretty sure that soon this muscle will be a memory soon enough

lagimatt

what muscle? muscle memory? digging through my old muscle? ... or the love muscle?

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TOOLwrench

bicep muscle

Emericana

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wow disregard this post or mod delete it i didnt read the few posts above my bad

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^^^^ Bump
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And this wasn't all in my head."

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Nick Kaos

If you want to see how Tool could sound with it's key members missing, listen to the live version of Eulogy as performed by A Perfect Circle. It's floating around the net.


I think it's total garbage. I don't care how technically inclined Freese or Howerdel are. I don't care if they were using the exact same equipment. It just doesn't work. I think it's the whole synergy thing. Take a Vicodin by itself, it's alright. Take a Soma by itself, it's ok. Take both at the same time, it's 5X as good. Tool as a whole really is an opiate. Anything less is just plain bunk.

Ross

you know what bro... you could not have put that in better context i agree a 100%... tool is not tool without the guys we have bottom line...................................

DON IOTAE

even if you're not who i thought you were; ur still cool in my book. Hell, everybody is.

xcept Hitler.

junior

Not to take away from your point, but to the best of my knowledge APC has never covered Eulogy or any other Tool song. Whatever version you speak of that is floating around the internet, or on the "Acoustica" bootleg, is someone else.

Rhapsody

Good interview. Thanks for posting!

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tonci

thanks...surely I'll not feel alone in your crowded cool list ^_^

DON IOTAE

Welcome to iota's cool club. Don't tell people i let you in. you know how it goes; rumours start.... before you know it, even Hitler will make it in.

BeardedGilgamesh

Please keep Hitler outside the gates of this club of yours. Thank You.

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DON IOTAE

Will do.

He's into banjo now, anyways. That's like, sooooooooo NOT cool!

BeardedGilgamesh

Excellent.

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lagimatt

I've dicided that when Danny gets better, and The Boys start up the tour again and make it here just in time to play at my birthday party... I'd like to hear Cortez the Killer. They could definately rock my face off with that.

BTW - I don't suppose anyone's heard rumors yet of who's opening up for them, eh?

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prime weed

I mean realistically, how long does a tear in the bicep usaully take to heal, i mean cmon...... 4-6weeks, we heard this news on February 20, and its March 5. than its been 15 days. the tour starts March 15, ok. Danny should be ready just in time for the new tour, have a little faith, i havent heard any shows totally cancelled, or postponed indeffintly... sooooo. Tool is gonna open up with 'Reflection' March 15 or '46&2'. Or maybe even "Right in Two" which i saw tham close the set with last Sept. 11, [[MONUMENTAL]] in The Woodlands, TX when Maynard was sick. Yet, he still pulled it off like a champ, even though line after line was missing from many songs because Maynards voice was horse, i enjoyed it very much more than your average tool concert goer. These assholes are crying cause Maynard wont sing a few words in a song, these sweaty fat kids need to learn to appreciate, cause the next show in San Antonio was cancelled without warning, this show was one like no other, if u attented it, u are one lucky tool fan, like me.
point* Instrumental tool is freaking crazy tight, especially when u collect bootleg shows like me, and analyze, how TooL plays live year after year, diffrent time signatures and diffrent variations in certain songs, they are the best, i know this. main point** Danny is gonna be up handling his fucking business come March 15.

sonnyboy11

prime weed

Several shows have indeed been postponed with more almost certainly to follow.

Thejessman

Although I'm no medical-field major, I'd say a torn bicep muscle takes at least 3 months to recover from. I mean, this guy is a drummer. You can't be out touring, playing drums with a sore arm and expect to be 100%.

Cheesegreater

I wish they would be back in action by March 15, but something tells me it's more serious than to allow them to keep on touring. Why say you're going to postpone shows to only pick up right where you left off? I was actually in a car that flipped a few times in the wee hours of Sunday morning. Luckily I came out okay, but I have a couple of spasms in my arm and shit and that's nothing compared to a torn bicep, but even spasms make your arm sore as shit.

I always feel like a bitch when I complain about Tool not releasing news. It makes me feel that I'm too concerned about seeing my damn Tool show than wanting Danny to truly recover all the way. I really feel for him, and I hope he comes through all right. With that said; admittedly, I'm really itching for some news, but I'm sure the reason Tool hasn't gotten back with us is that they are just feeling things out. If this is a truly serious injury to his bicep, it's very likely none of them know exactly what to tell the fans because it's just as much up in the air with them as it is with us.

Think about it, if the shows get postponed much longer the whole structure of this tour will undergo a complete overhaul. It's likely that some of the venues will have sport events to take priority or what have you. Then you have all these tickets that have to be honored or refunded (I'm keeping mine), and they may even be at completely different venues. Will there be some songs Danny will have to stay away from because they are particularly drum heavy? All I know is that Tool is working their asses off right now. I really hope to see "Right in Two". I have a drummer friend and I asked him if he could pull that off (regarding the drum build-up). He told me that kinda stuff is all in the wrist. I hope he's right.

Be thankful for every chance you get to see Tool. Tragic things happen, but these four guys have been doing what they do for a good 12 years. When I hear people saying "Sure, they'll make another album" or "I'll catch 'em next time they come around." I can't help but think that life is pretty random. I certainly didn't think I'd be flipping in a Mazda Sunday morning, and I thank (insert here) that my neck didn't snap and all my friends got out all right. Anyway, I certainly hope Danny comes through okay, and yes, I would love some news.

Peace out guys. =)

sonnyboy11

You guys, March 15 and 16th in Vegas have already been postponed, as has San Diego on March 20. Those dates are TBA on TM

http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/720703

Get ready for a lot more dates to go TBA in the near future.

BeardedGilgamesh

More like 17 or 18 years my friend. "from '92, the first ep"

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Cheesegreater

I knew someone would bring that up, but I was referring to the four that have been together for about 12 or 13 years. Namely, from Justin on. Paul was out about 94or 5ish I believe. But the Danny, Maynard, Adam, Justin combo has been around for a solid 12 or 13 years.

Cheesegreater

And, believe me, I know their history, and get the whole "Hooker w/ a Penis" reference. But he's referring to their first EP, and Paul was their bassist back then.

Peace!

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A Fatality.

chiller

looks like danny is recovering really fast. blair just gave some good news on toolband.com today. hopefully that means the vegas show will be in april or may. danny is a hard jesus

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sonnyboy11

"look for leaks on other sites"

What the hell does he mean by that??

chiller

maybe leaks of possible show dates from the venues.

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sonnyboy11

Ah, well ok then! But I think the only thing that can be trusted at this point is when Ticketmaster sends out an email with the new dates.

BTW, much as I hate Ticketbastard, they did a good job letting me know the Vegas shows were postponed. Got emails and a phone call from them.

crawl away

Toolarmy.com just took the vegas and San Diego shows off the tour list. WTF!!!!
I know everyone out there is very interested in the city they live in and the status of that show, but come on, People all over America are interested in the status of Vegas. I have seen on other boards that the show is not going to be at "the pearl" and at a place called the Theatre Under the Stars. Anyone else have any insight on this or heard anything I'm leaving out?

Ross

Ok guys I have a question... I called ticketmaster about a week ago to see if I could exchange my seats for better seats that became available. The lady said yes, we can exchange your seats so she assigned me to the new seats. Not knowing that it was going to cost me an extra 30 dollars in fees, so once I heard that I told the lady I will just stay with my original seats. She said she could not give me my original seats because she gave them up. So instead of being in 324 Row H she was going to move me up to 324 Row A. Whatever no big deal, but when my tickets came in the mail, I received section 324 Row H and section 324 Row A. So I have 3 extra seats in my original seats. So my question is do you think that all the tickets they mailed me will scan on the day of the show?

dclxvi-qas

“People all over America are interested in the status of Vegas?”

hmmmm...



All i know is that they played Theater Under The Stars back in Sept 2006.

http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=54117

... and i can confidently assure you they will play the exact same setlist that they played then on the rescheduled shows. if that ever happens.

Stinkfist
The Pot
Forty Six & 2
Jambi
Schism
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Opiate
Sober
Lateralus
Vicarious
Ænema



i think the first 7 shows have been cut from the tour possibly and hopefully rescheduled.

Mar 15 Las Vegas, NV The Pearl
Mar 16 Las Vegas, NV The Pearl
Mar 18 Reno, NV Reno Events Center
Mar 20 San Diego, CA Cox Arena
Mar 21 Tucson, AZ Tucson Convention Center
Mar 23 Albuquerque, NM Tingley Coliseum
Mar 24 Las Cruces, NM Pan American Center

while this leg of the tour, next 23 shows, will start on March 26th in San Antonio, TX.

2007 26 Mar San Antonio, TX US AT&T Center
2007 27 Mar Corpus Christi, TX US American Bank Center
2007 29 Mar Oklahoma City, OK US Ford Center
2007 30 Mar Southaven, MS US Desoto Civic Center
2007 31 Mar Baton Rouge, LA US River Center
2007 02 Apr Pensacola, FL US Pensacola Civic Center
2007 03 Apr Tallahassee, FL US Leon County Civic Center
2007 05 Apr Tampa, FL US USF Sundome
2007 06 Apr Orlando, FL US Amway Arena
2007 07 Apr Coral Gables, FL US Bank United Center
2007 10 Apr Duluth, GA US Gwinnett Center
2007 11 Apr Winston-Salem, NC US Joel Lawrence Arena
2007 13 Apr Birmingham, AL US Oak Mountain Amphitheater
2007 14 Apr Greenville, SC US Bi-Lo Center
2007 15 Apr Richmond, VA US Richmond Coliseum
2007 17 Apr Reading, PA US Sovereign Center
2007 18 Apr University Park, PA US Bryce Jordan Arena
2007 20 Apr Albany, NY US Times Union Center
2007 21 Apr Atlantic City, NJ US Boardwalk Hall
2007 22 Apr Portland, ME US Cumberland County Civic Center
2007 27 Apr Quebec City, Quebec CANADA The Colisee
2007 28 Apr Montreal, Quebec CANADA Bell Center
2007 29 Apr Hamilton, Ontario CANADA Copps Coliseum


damn lucky bastards.

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Runner701

yes.

sonnyboy11

I'll bet ya a beer they play Wings 1&2. And, on the non-betting side, I bet we see Pushit in Vegas.

Runner701

i think the first 7 shows have been cut from the tour possibly and hopefully rescheduled.


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I agree.

these shows might not be rescheduled:

1. recent toolband posts suggest a quick recovery

2. None of the April / late March dates have been taken off of toolband

- I would immagine if they knew for sure that the april dates would be canceled, they would have been deleted with the early March dates. Why otherwise would you only delete some? I think April is still a possibility.