I beg to differ the highs are terrible

Im listening to them on Focals and MB Quart components

The rumors of a fake album and a double album has spread like fire. No matter what happens, the "10,000 Days I have listened to is indeed different but also a step further into the evolution of Tool. I recall when Lateralus hit, people were debating the same thing. "Tool's too wierd now", "It sux", ect. BUT, years later, many(including myself) hold Lateralus as one of the best albums of all time. I can't say I love the new album, but I can say I know I will. Oh, and just a heads up, Target.com has posted two versions of 10,000 Days for release on their website. The first is May 2nd, followed by a "Double-Disk" on May 16th.

Well, i certainly don't see it listed as a "Double-Disk", but there is a copy of 10,000 Days listed to be released May 16th for $26.49. And then, if you look further down the list, you'll see Lateralus, Aenima, and Undertow as May 16th releases as well, all listed at the same price ($26.49). What the hell is this all about?

Ok, scratch all that. I looked more closely at the May 16th, $26.49 version and it's format is "Import", which explains the price difference.

But still, why are all retailers selling ridiculously expensive Import versions of these records when they're all available domestically?

two thoughts came to my ind after several listens straight through the album: either there was a double disc, or that they leaked the wrong track list, which at least makes the release date a little more interesting. i agree that it'd be ridiculous if the leaked album was a hoax. i think it's slightly more plausible that it's the first part of a double album. i also think it could be that a double album's worth of music was recorded but the second won't be released for a few months.

regardless, may 2 will (hopefully) tell all.

You're listening on Quarts? There's your problem ;)

As stated in another thread.

My brother works at Best Buy. He stated that there are 350 copies of 10,000 Days on order. It gives the same UPC code that matches in the UPC database on the internet. It also says 1 CD. Although the CD case is half an inch thick. A regular one is only a little over a quarter of an inch. Could be because of the Digipak.

I am in the diversion camp. What was leaked is not to be taken seriously. I think there is much more to this whole thing, just to screw with there fans.

With a play time of around 76 minutes? They could get maybe 3 more minutes of music on there?

when was the last time you bought a double album for $10.00?

Use Your Illusion I & II

Adam mentioned a track called "Those Shoes" in the Guitar World interview... I don't know what to make of that. He's talking about the talkbox solo, which most poeple are associating with Jambi. I've never heard a talkbox before so I don't know if that's it... sounds like a funky wah-wah peddle.

NO

THAT WAS A GOD DAMN EAGLES SONG

STOP BEING DUMB OR YOU GET THE BELT

Ok, well the quote is:

Adam: "I think the Talk Box on [the 10,000 days track] "Those Shoes" is really amazing, especially how the harmonies are in each speaker."

So the editor made a mistake hey?

No need to be a dick.

I just listened to "Those Shoes"... Adam's obviously talking about the Eagles track, not the 10,000 Days track as the interviewer seems to have thought.

I used to get the belt....

Lateralus was 78 Minutes. 88 Minutes would be very difficult to fit on a commercial CD.

it would be impossible. a cd can only hold 80 minutes. and take away all the filler on lateralus, then how long is it? probably about the same as 10,000 days....

You can make a CD up to 99 minutes, the only problem is that it won't play on many CD players. CDs that are over 74 minutes won't play on the oldest players.

That's exactly what I've been listening this album through as well. Man, I love my good ol HR-824's. Such clarity.

It is poor quality you shithead. I don't care what headphones you have, it's a BAD rip that was upsampled for no fucking reason. The original is a 192 AAC rip using iTunes. It has nothing to do with HOW It was recorded. The quality is shit because of the way it was ripped.

God.



P.S.
10,000 Days sucks

what's the differance between pink and purple?...the grip.
TOOL LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what's the differance between pink and purple?...the grip.
TOOL LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How is 192 AAC a bad rip? That's the equivalent of about a 220kpbs MP3. "Upsampled," huh? I don't think you even know what you're talking about or what that means.

There's nothing "shit" about the quality at all. You just don't like the album and are taking it out on others.

Umm, no it's bad quality. Hence the extra dead space at the end of each track, and compare the tracks to Vicarious. It is upsampled you dolt, if you DO NOT know what that means don't just assume I am making shit up. Do your research. The quality is shit. It sounds bad to the ear. It is a bad rip because iTunes is a HORRIBLE encoder, and the iTunes used was 4.9, not verison 6. Even worse.

Don't speak and act as if you know two shits about what you're talking about. Gtfo.



Silly plug: visit HydrogenAudio.org for more information regarding rips and all sorts audiophile goodness.

I also have HR-824s and your ears are broken if you cant hear that the Pot has shitty production compared to Vicarious.

I agree comparing any of those songs to vicarious they arent up to par in production quality.

10,000 Days & 10,000 Years (2nd part of the album, the years to difference)...
Where 2 * 7 on the 5
Maybe...Who knows...Let's pray...

Turn up your speakers. There's not really silence at the end of the tracks, no more than a couple seconds. There is very faint audio playing usually. Either way, silence wouldn't indicate a lack of quality in any case. Silence is silence, dumbass. Upsampling would be increasing the sample rate, in Hz, of the wave. I found a discussion about this practice on the website you provided. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=43157&hl=upsample
There's a link. Basically, it's explained that when converting digital audio from a lower sample rate to a higher one, upsampling does result in a loss of quality, but that it's so minute that the human ear would never be able to detect a difference. Also, you don't have any reference point, do you? What're you comparing it to? Their other albums? They were done by a different engineer in different studios. You don't have the real CD thus you have no way of knowing what, if anything, was done to the audio.

Maybe the second disc is Guns N' Roses "Chinese Democracy".

Umm, I made it clear. I am comparing it to the earlier leak of Vicarious. Kthx.

And I am right, there's just DEAD SPACE at the end of every track. No sound. Hence why Lost Keys does not go into Rosetta Stoned, and so forth. So you must have an edited version, or some shitty transcode.

The last TWO seconds of every track from the ORIGINAL leak have dead space. This has been discussed quite a bit on other forums, so yah. You're wrong.

That's not abnormal. Unless you're playing the actual cd where they've specifically edited out the silences between tracks, your player will insert space.

I'm looking at my shit thru a microscope and its still shit.
I dont remember eating korn, what a disappointment.

let's not hope the disc is a dual disc because that style of disc has trouble ripping onto computers for those of us who are ipod addicted. additionally, if you go to the tool hotline (tool hotline on yahoo), there are pictures of the actual album up. somebody had posted that alex gray said the artwork is something that nobody else has tried and he's right. 10,000 days looks like a digipak, except it opens horizontally in the middle. the eyes on the face seem to act as a viewing lens of sorts, which i would imagine do something very cool with the album's artwork.

and the cd is eon's past lateralus. the music is far denser, a bit more experimental and a totally winding adventure. anybody who thinks this isn't the real record is not very smart.

If there was anymore material on the disc, it would have leaked out by now, and we would listening to it. full stop.
There is no way that god himslef could keep this quite till 9 days (less in some countries) before the release. Thats it.

unless tool release something else in like a couple months that hasn't yet been put into production...

Umm, no.

I agree that it is strange that Kabir didn't actually hear viginti tres, but that it was a segue.

I can say with certainty that this means 10000 Days is really a 23-disc Album.

I don't have proof, but my friend Jonis Pergatory told me this is true....so you all can trust him!

haha, the intro to rosetta stoned, with the doctor and nurse talking, reminds me of coma everytime

zap the son a bitch again!

I actually bought the smashing pumpkins- mellon chollie and the infinite sadness for 5 bucks. yes!
anyways, your right double disc albums are usually like 20 bucks.