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What do you think, is this the one, TOOL's masterpiece to forever be known? i think it might be, this might be the one, hopefully we have one more album, but this might be the one...So beautiful and emotional, i think this might be the one tool will be remembered for forever...........what do you think?

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TOOL's Masterpiece????

What do you think, is this the one, TOOL's masterpiece to forever be known? i think it might be, this might be the one, hopefully we have one more album, but this might be the one...So beautiful and emotional, i think this might be the one tool will be remembered for forever...........what do you think?

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What do you think, is this the one, TOOL's masterpiece to forever be known? i think it might be, this might be the one, hopefully we have one more album, but this might be the one...So beautiful and emotinal, i think this might be the one tool will be remembered for forever...........what do you think?

Mate. i just have to agree,
Third Eye and Lateralus have been my fav tool songs. But this song is as you tittled it a 'masterpiece.' were we expecting anything less?
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What do you think, is this the one, TOOL's masterpiece to forever be known? i think it might be, this might be the one, hopefully we have one more album, but this might be the one...So beautiful and emotinal, i think this might be the one tool will be remembered for forever...........what do you think?

Mate. i just have to agree,
Third Eye and Lateralus have been my fav tool songs. But this song is as you tittled it a 'masterpiece.' were we expecting anything less?
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i think it just might be... this song really digs it's way under your skin...
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i think it just might be... this song really digs it's way under your skin...
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Mate. i just have to agree,
Third Eye and Lateralus have been my fav tool songs. But this song is as you tittled it a 'masterpiece.' were we expecting anything less?
no, of course we werent expecting anything less, but we just never envisioned how it would actually sound, now we know!!!!!!!!
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Mate. i just have to agree,
Third Eye and Lateralus have been my fav tool songs. But this song is as you tittled it a 'masterpiece.' were we expecting anything less?
no, of course we werent expecting anything less, but we just never envisioned how it would actually sound, now we know!!!!!!!!
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I agree, that climax always gets me, incredible powerful and that solo by Adam about midway through that goes on for a while is fucking unbelievable.
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I agree, that climax always gets me, incredible powerful and that solo by Adam about midway through that goes on for a while is fucking unbelievable.
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i think that this song might be the masterpiece (if you include both parts). but a think that the album Lateralus is their piece de resistance.
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i think that this song might be the masterpiece (if you include both parts). but a think that the album Lateralus is their piece de resistance.
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This song is definately up there. I'd hafta say that out of all the tracks on here, Rosetta, Wings, Jambi, and the Pot are the ones from this album that will really stick in our heads. that's my opinion anyway.
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This song is definately up there. I'd hafta say that out of all the tracks on here, Rosetta, Wings, Jambi, and the Pot are the ones from this album that will really stick in our heads. that's my opinion anyway.
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I simply love how this song builds and builds and finally climaxes at about 8:20 onwards into 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2).

I also like that this climax DOES NOT go over the top with a massive and fast-paced solo with heaps of drums etc. I think the solo it does feature and the 'climax' part suit the song perfectly. In terms of climaxes, I probably like Lateralus' (the song) more, but in the whole context of the song, the ending/climax of this 17min piece is just so appropriate... I simply love it!

This song is what I expected from Tool - an epic that is slightly different, but classic and timeless as well...

I played the entire album to 2 mates today and they just loved this track on their first listen...

It's also strange that although the song goes for a long time, it doesn't feel like 17 minutes!

I'm putting all my thoughts together and will post a full review of this album sometime soon - I just have heaps of uni shit to do!

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I simply love how this song builds and builds and finally climaxes at about 8:20 onwards into 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2).

I also like that this climax DOES NOT go over the top with a massive and fast-paced solo with heaps of drums etc. I think the solo it does feature and the 'climax' part suit the song perfectly. In terms of climaxes, I probably like Lateralus' (the song) more, but in the whole context of the song, the ending/climax of this 17min piece is just so appropriate... I simply love it!

This song is what I expected from Tool - an epic that is slightly different, but classic and timeless as well...

I played the entire album to 2 mates today and they just loved this track on their first listen...

It's also strange that although the song goes for a long time, it doesn't feel like 17 minutes!

I'm putting all my thoughts together and will post a full review of this album sometime soon - I just have heaps of uni shit to do!

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wings part 2 sucks after minute 7:56.
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wings part 2 sucks after minute 7:56.
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i think that this song might be the masterpiece (if you include both parts). but a think that the album Lateralus is their piece de resistance.
yes it's the epic on this album, but Lateralus, i have to agree with you was their 'epic album'
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i think that this song might be the masterpiece (if you include both parts). but a think that the album Lateralus is their piece de resistance.
yes it's the epic on this album, but Lateralus, i have to agree with you was their 'epic album'
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This song in itself makes me think there is no way this album could be a hoax.
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This song in itself makes me think there is no way this album could be a hoax.
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^This album is not a hoax...and yes, I believe within time, this song will be known as one of their mastrpieces.
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^This album is not a hoax...and yes, I believe within time, this song will be known as one of their mastrpieces.
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definate the best too song ever made....fucking orgasmic.......nothing beats it ...before this reflection was my favourite song but this fucking hit me as a brick in the face

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definate the best too song ever made....fucking orgasmic.......nothing beats it ...before this reflection was my favourite song but this fucking hit me as a brick in the face

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definate the best too song ever made....fucking orgasmic.......nothing beats it ...before this reflection was my favourite song but this fucking hit me as a brick in the face

sweetness

i am in the same boat... it was third eye, then it was reflection, and now it's wings pt.2... the message is just as beautiful as the music.
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definate the best too song ever made....fucking orgasmic.......nothing beats it ...before this reflection was my favourite song but this fucking hit me as a brick in the face

sweetness

i am in the same boat... it was third eye, then it was reflection, and now it's wings pt.2... the message is just as beautiful as the music.
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This part makes me shiver every time...

You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!

Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now! My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings."
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This part makes me shiver every time...

You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!

Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now! My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings."
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I am absolutely in love with this song. So triumphant.
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I am absolutely in love with this song. So triumphant.
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This part makes me shiver every time...

You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!

Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now! My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings."
Yeah, it's SO intense. The way Maynard sings it... beautiful.
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This part makes me shiver every time...

You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!

Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now! My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings."
Yeah, it's SO intense. The way Maynard sings it... beautiful.
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It's also strange that although the song goes for a long time, it doesn't feel like 17 minutes!
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It's also strange that although the song goes for a long time, it doesn't feel like 17 minutes!
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Yeah. This song is a masterstroke, for sure.

I'm a little curious how the mainstream listener will take it, if at all.

I'm not so concerned with the band getting #1 singles, or grammys et al, but I would like to think this song will open a lot of doors for Tool, and perhaps reach a part of the populace that eschews hard, difficult music. The more mature audience, I mean.
Jazz people, classical people, 70's era people. I think it will blow a lot of minds.
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Yeah. This song is a masterstroke, for sure.

I'm a little curious how the mainstream listener will take it, if at all.

I'm not so concerned with the band getting #1 singles, or grammys et al, but I would like to think this song will open a lot of doors for Tool, and perhaps reach a part of the populace that eschews hard, difficult music. The more mature audience, I mean.
Jazz people, classical people, 70's era people. I think it will blow a lot of minds.
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Yeah. This song is a masterstroke, for sure.

I'm a little curious how the mainstream listener will take it, if at all.

I'm not so concerned with the band getting #1 singles, or grammys et al, but I would like to think this song will open a lot of doors for Tool, and perhaps reach a part of the populace that eschews hard, difficult music. The more mature audience, I mean.
Jazz people, classical people, 70's era people. I think it will blow a lot of minds.
i agree

i have never heard anything like this
nothing close
the harmonics
arrangement
sentiment
honesty
from a band like tool..was expected
but not like this

this is i dont even know what to refer to it as
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Yeah. This song is a masterstroke, for sure.

I'm a little curious how the mainstream listener will take it, if at all.

I'm not so concerned with the band getting #1 singles, or grammys et al, but I would like to think this song will open a lot of doors for Tool, and perhaps reach a part of the populace that eschews hard, difficult music. The more mature audience, I mean.
Jazz people, classical people, 70's era people. I think it will blow a lot of minds.
i agree

i have never heard anything like this
nothing close
the harmonics
arrangement
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from a band like tool..was expected
but not like this

this is i dont even know what to refer to it as
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this song is ONE tool masterpiece.

but no band i've ever heard has done anything this fucking huge.
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this song is ONE tool masterpiece.

but no band i've ever heard has done anything this fucking huge.
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(-)ions is their masterpiece
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(-)ions is their masterpiece
-ve ions kicks ass as background to weird films..:)
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I think its one of the best pieces of music that i have heard in years.

This could well become my favourite song, It has everything that I love tool for.
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I think its one of the best pieces of music that i have heard in years.

This could well become my favourite song, It has everything that I love tool for.
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I think every band member contributed gracefully to this song. Maynard didn't overdo the vocals, Adam chose a David Gilmour rather than a Jimmy Page approach in the solo (of course, maybe that's because he couldn't even approach a Jimmy-like fast shred), and the drums and bass were very tasteful.

As a whole, the combined parts create an emotional masterpiece, because with this song it's really the lyrics that get you.
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I think every band member contributed gracefully to this song. Maynard didn't overdo the vocals, Adam chose a David Gilmour rather than a Jimmy Page approach in the solo (of course, maybe that's because he couldn't even approach a Jimmy-like fast shred), and the drums and bass were very tasteful.

As a whole, the combined parts create an emotional masterpiece, because with this song it's really the lyrics that get you.
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It's also strange that although the song goes for a long time, it doesn't feel like 17 minutes!
I got the exactly opposite reaction. It sounded way too long to me at the first listen (and I like long songs)... but it's doesn't really matter, the "Give me my wings" part is orgasmic. This song really is a masterpiece...
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It's also strange that although the song goes for a long time, it doesn't feel like 17 minutes!
I got the exactly opposite reaction. It sounded way too long to me at the first listen (and I like long songs)... but it's doesn't really matter, the "Give me my wings" part is orgasmic. This song really is a masterpiece...
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I laughed when I first saw this thread, because when I first heard the song, my first thought was, "This is Tool's masterpiece." It may not be my favorite song, it may not be their most musically complicated song, it may not even be the best sounding song, but it's definitely the song through which Maynard reveals himself the most. It definitely affects me emotionally much more than any other Tool song. I would go so far as to call this their most "artistic" song. Depending on your definition, that could make it their masterpiece. I would argue that it is.
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I laughed when I first saw this thread, because when I first heard the song, my first thought was, "This is Tool's masterpiece." It may not be my favorite song, it may not be their most musically complicated song, it may not even be the best sounding song, but it's definitely the song through which Maynard reveals himself the most. It definitely affects me emotionally much more than any other Tool song. I would go so far as to call this their most "artistic" song. Depending on your definition, that could make it their masterpiece. I would argue that it is.
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I would give ANY amount of money to be able to express myself through music like Maynard can; genious.
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I would give ANY amount of money to be able to express myself through music like Maynard can; genious.
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I'm listening to this song while there is a storm outside, where I live...simply amazing song.
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I'm listening to this song while there is a storm outside, where I live...simply amazing song.
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What do you think, is this the one, TOOL's masterpiece to forever be known? i think it might be, this might be the one, hopefully we have one more album, but this might be the one...So beautiful and emotional, i think this might be the one tool will be remembered for forever...........what do you think?
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What do you think, is this the one, TOOL's masterpiece to forever be known? i think it might be, this might be the one, hopefully we have one more album, but this might be the one...So beautiful and emotional, i think this might be the one tool will be remembered for forever...........what do you think?
Tool's masterpieceS are Third Eye, Disposition-->Reflection-->Triad
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I don't understand why people are so fond of Reflection...it's an OK song for me. I find the drum pattern....so.....repetitive ! sorry.
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I don't understand why people are so fond of Reflection...it's an OK song for me. I find the drum pattern....so.....repetitive ! sorry.
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I would give ANY amount of money to be able to express myself through music like Maynard can; genious.
A very intelligent man once said "Do what thou willst shall be the whole of The Law." Your will has more power than anything money can buy.
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I would give ANY amount of money to be able to express myself through music like Maynard can; genious.
A very intelligent man once said "Do what thou willst shall be the whole of The Law." Your will has more power than anything money can buy.
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This part makes me shiver every time...

You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!

Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now! My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings."

Ditto and the other part is the "High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about. I only pray, God knows when to lift you out. Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home."
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This part makes me shiver every time...

You're the only one who can hold your head up high,
Shake your fists at the gates saying:
"I have come home now!

Fetch me the spirit, the son, and the father
Tell them their pillar of faith has ascended.
It's time now! My time now!
Give me my, give me my wings."

Ditto and the other part is the "High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about. I only pray, God knows when to lift you out. Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home."
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I think its one of the best pieces of music that i have heard in years.

This could well become my favourite song, It has everything that I love tool for.
Just beautifull
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I think its one of the best pieces of music that i have heard in years.

This could well become my favourite song, It has everything that I love tool for.
Just beautifull
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Ditto and the other part is the "High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about. I only pray, God knows when to lift you out. Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home."
yes...to both the reposts of link
i sing it out loud with my fist in the air
and my throat ceasing all the time
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Ditto and the other part is the "High as a wave, but I'll rise on up off the ground.
You are the light and the way, they'll only read about. I only pray, God knows when to lift you out. Ten thousand days in the fire is long enough, you're going home."
yes...to both the reposts of link
i sing it out loud with my fist in the air
and my throat ceasing all the time
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04-25-2006, 06:22 AM
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jones' guitar solo in this song absolutely sucks
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jones' guitar solo in this song absolutely sucks
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Mate. i just have to agree,
Third Eye and Lateralus have been my fav tool songs. But this song is as you tittled it a 'masterpiece.' were we expecting anything less?
I second that.
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Mate. i just have to agree,
Third Eye and Lateralus have been my fav tool songs. But this song is as you tittled it a 'masterpiece.' were we expecting anything less?
I second that.
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It might be... if the riff wasnt the fucking x files theme

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It might be... if the riff wasnt the fucking x files theme

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jones' guitar solo in this song absolutely sucks
Hey, better than the H solo. That one's worse than the worst high school kid's guitar solo.
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jones' guitar solo in this song absolutely sucks
Hey, better than the H solo. That one's worse than the worst high school kid's guitar solo.
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