hm. I'd love to see this. but...I think I will probably be dead by then or someone/something else in another life. as will the band and you. unless you have some kind of supernatural mystical powers.
This post, though way back there along with the post it was aimed towards, made me smile for some odd reason.
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You have to think the band is closer to the end at this point. I just got sad.
I just got sad as well.
I read through this whole thread and many things here make me sad. Mostly the things relating directly to Maynard.
I don't see why anyone would want anyone to be the same person over the span of many years just so you can give them a congratulatory pat on the shoulder for staying stuck in one particular frame of mind.
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm female and maybe it's because I adore Maynard as a person and respect what he does, no matter what it is. I appreciate his lyrics and vocals so much because at so many different points in my life, I have only been able to cope with things by listening to his voice. Music is extremely important to me and I have found comfort, inspiration and just plain old peace of mind by sitting in a dark corner and listening to him sing. Whether through Tool, A Perfect Circle or Puscifer.
That said, I am very excited to be able to see Tool live again this year at the Toyota Center. I bought a ticket last year for the San Antonio show, but couldn't get a ride to the Greyhound Station, so I was really bummed about that.
If they ever do announce a final tour, I want to make sure that I'm there to see them one last time.
You guys seem to be forgetting that Maynard (of all people) has been quoted in saying that the band will continue making music together until one of them dies. Tool isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Part of me just hopes the band re-invents itself in the next few projects they embark upon. Opiate to Lateralus had excellent creative focus and execution, however while I personally love 10,000 Days, I'd tend to agree that it was a bit of evidence that that particular emotional path has begun to run out of gas. The band still has great potential, no doubt. I don't think there is any reason to be anything but excited about what could come from the band, either in this next album... or in the albums and projects to come. Besides, they seem to have been fairly self-aware in everything they do... so I'll remain confident that Tool still has some mind-blowing works on the horizon. They just need to find a new creative path that they are all happy to walk down.
... hopefully some more instrumental tracks too ...
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Reason: adding fluff... like when pornstars get a blowjob before walking on set, just gets em pumped
Would anyone else find it funny if the OP was Maynard ...
Yes.
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I believe context you were searching for, O' Tired One, was something along the lines of "trying to rouse the fans", or "get a rise out of the fans". Either way, no harm no foul. It just read funny and confused me.
Now I'm roused!
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The only person who you could argue has sold out would be Maynard. However, it's funny that you say that because Maynard addressed this in a radio interview late last year, which is on Youtube somewhere. I'll quote as best I can remember (capital letters are words I know he emphasized):
"Since I've begun doing Puscifer and following my dream of making wine, a lot of Tool fans have been saying things like, 'Oh, Maynard finally sold out' or 'Maynard is just doing that bullshit for the money,' but I don't understand...I mean, WHAT MONEY? There's no money in Puscifer. There's no money in making my own wine. It's just FUN. The real money comes from being on tour with Tool. If I was selling out or only interested in making money, I would be touring with Tool a lot more."
I personally enjoy Puscifer, and I've tried his wine (it's good, and I've tried a lot of wines over the years). I don't think that has anything to do with him selling out. The only argument you might have is this summer tour, but I don't think that qualifies as selling out either. I think its purpose is most likely to energize the fans for a new album next year, and probably to cover some recording costs, and that's fine. I also don't care what Maynard wears when he sings for Tool (and the fact that you do is pretty stupid). However, I do agree that when Maynard is on tour with Tool, he should focus more on what he's doing. He should sing on key, he should sing clearly, he should sing with precision, and he should remember lyrics.
Other than Maynard though, you can't say anybody else in the band has "sold out," and I therefore don't think you can say the band has sold out.
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I am one of those that feels I must be at every show(within 5 hours distance!). I do not give a fuck why they are touring. I give a shit if I can get tickets at face value.
If you want to attack the band, give them hell for a valid cause. I feel they should do more to make sure tickets get in to the hands of their fans.
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You guys seem to be forgetting that Maynard (of all people) has been quoted in saying that the band will continue making music together until one of them dies. Tool isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Part of me just hopes the band re-invents itself in the next few projects they embark upon. Opiate to Lateralus had excellent creative focus and execution, however while I personally love 10,000 Days, I'd tend to agree that it was a bit of evidence that that particular emotional path has begun to run out of gas. The band still has great potential, no doubt. I don't think there is any reason to be anything but excited about what could come from the band, either in this next album... or in the albums and projects to come. Besides, they seem to have been fairly self-aware in everything they do... so I'll remain confident that Tool still has some mind-blowing works on the horizon. They just need to find a new creative path that they are all happy to walk down.
... hopefully some more instrumental tracks too ...
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Well, I actually agree I don't think the band will stop making music any time soon - I just think that the days when Tool can go out and produce a song like 46&2 or Eulogy are over. I think this is understandable because the band has changed a lot over the years but its a sad realization. 10,000 Days is a pretty good album but a step down from Lateralus IMO. This is the trajectory:
Undertow: Very Good album, lots of potential
Aenima: Excellent album, numerous epic tracks, potential met
Lateralus: Extraordinary production, band raises the standard set by Aenima somehow
10,000 Days: Very Good album, a little less cohesive than Lateralus
So now what? The simple fact is that the band raised the standard going from Aenima to Lateralus. It didnt seem possible but they did it. For me 10,000 Days is exactly as entertaining as Undertow.
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I fully agree with that, but only in the sense of the album(s) as a whole. Strictly standing songs on their own and looking at the level of detail in the composition in each piece, I think the songs on 10,000 Days are just as strong as the ones on Lateralus, if not stronger.
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Agreed. Taken on their own, the tracks on 10,000 Days show a very definite evolution and step forwards in complexity and songwriting.
I think the loooong nature of some of the songs, and more varied lyrical content, contributed to the overall "lack of cohesiveness," at least compare to Lateralus.
Despite preferring Lateralus as an overall album, 10,000 Days did nothing but create more optimism for me as far as their long-term capabilities.
I only pray that they decide to go full-on concept album at some point. Or more to the point, create something like Pink Floyd's Darkside or Animals where the album really needs to be taken as a whole and not broken up into smaller chunks. More suites/recurring motifs and themes.
You should go find all of the members of Tool and give them a good spanking.How dare they express themselves freely!
If you don't like them anymore,then go and find some local band with only a handful of people at a show and go to a show,make yourself feel special for once,you deserve it buddy.And as far as them showing their faces on the 10,000 Days art,well, the album is all about them and their lives and experiences.And there's a lot more going on in those photos than a photo op for a magazine cover or something similar.
I imagine you'll still go to the show and be one of those a-holes who stand there the whole time and rant and rave about this and that,rather than be in the moment and enjoy it for what it is.
I think what you really need is a pacifier,or something to suck on.Wanna meat?
Well said.
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...I just think that the days when Tool can go out and produce a song like 46&2 or Eulogy are over. I think this is understandable because the band has changed a lot over the years but its a sad realization.
Wait...what? I'm incredibly THANKFUL that Tool no longer writes songs like Eulogy...or Stinkfist...or ANYTHING on the Undertow album (which is mediocre at best). It is the past two albums that have solidified them as my favorite band.
The fact is, the musicianship in those songs I mentioned is not that good, even if you enjoy them a lot. Compared to the musicianship and song writing displayed on Lateralus and 10,000 Days, Undertow is an absolute joke, and songs like Eulogy and Stinkfist I feel don't even belong on a Tool album. I'm thankful that Tool no longer writes songs like that, because it means that they are MUCH BETTER now. I became a Tool fan during the Aenima era. I went back and listened to Undertow a couple of times, and I own the album, but it's not Tool. Yes, they still occasionally play one or two songs from it live, but that Tool is long long gone.
10,000 Days for me, as a musician, is the best album yet, and Lateralus is a close second. Aenima is reasonably good, but I don't even consider Undertow or Opiate to be Tool music...they are both incredibly mediocre, if even that.
I personally love the direction Tool is heading. 10,000 Days is in no way comparable to Undertow other than the aggressive tone of the music. The song writing and lyrical content is WORLDS better than Undertow. I can't describe how happy I am that they have moved away from the Undertow sound. They have only ever improved. Undertow was so bad, especially compared to Lateralus and 10,000 Days, I don't see how you can be sad about the way Tool has changed.
I fully agree with that, but only in the sense of the album(s) as a whole. Strictly standing songs on their own and looking at the level of detail in the composition in each piece, I think the songs on 10,000 Days are just as strong as the ones on Lateralus, if not stronger.
Absolutely true. The only thing 10,000 Days doesn't have is as much of a flow as Lateralus had. But I think this is only the case going between Jambi and Wings for Marie, and then from !0,000 Days to The Pot. Vicarious to Jambi is a fine transition, and then beginning with The Pot, the rest of the album flows like one very dynamic piece (especially Lost Keys>Rosetta Stoned>Intension>Right in Two).
Yes, the transition on either side of Wings/10k Days could have been better, but the song writing makes up for it in my opinion. Lateralus and 10,000 Days display musicianship that the previous albums don't even come close to matching.
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Wait...what? I'm incredibly THANKFUL that Tool no longer writes songs like Eulogy...or Stinkfist...or ANYTHING on the Undertow album (which is mediocre at best). It is the past two albums that have solidified them as my favorite band.
The fact is, the musicianship in those songs I mentioned is not that good, even if you enjoy them a lot.
THE FACT?? Really, the FACT? Thats just like your opinion, man.
Seriously i doubt you have any grounds to be spouting facts man. Thats comparing apples to oranges; different band member, nearly 20 years, and complete different attitudes. So that statement is completely asinine and without merit.
Furthermore, after reading the rest of your post again, the rest of it is garbage as well. You sir, are out of your element.
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THE FACT?? Really, the FACT? Thats just like your opinion, man.
Seriously i doubt you have any grounds to be spouting facts man. Thats comparing apples to oranges; different band member, nearly 20 years, and complete different attitudes. So that statement is completely asinine and without merit.
Furthermore, after reading the rest of your post again, the rest of it is garbage as well. You sir, are out of your element.
I'm not speaking about whether, in my opinion, I LIKE the new music more or not (I do, but that's beside the point). The newer music is objectively more complex, more painstakingly thought out, more difficult to reproduce live, and yet they continue to do it nearly flawlessly. They have improved as musicians in that sense, they want to keep challenging themselves, and as a result they have pushed musical boundaries more and more with each album. You might not like it, but I personally love the result. I don't have any nostalgia for Undertow because from a musician's perspective, there wasn't much to "sink my teeth into," as Danny Carey would say. With each album, they have only become MORE my favorite band. There is nothing I miss, because I know that everything they make in the future will only be more musically sophisticated than what they've already made. I don't see why the band's improving and taking a much more progressive approach than Undertow makes you sad.
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I'm not speaking about whether, in my opinion, I LIKE the new music more or not (I do, but that's beside the point). The newer music is objectively more complex, more painstakingly thought out, more difficult to reproduce live, and yet they continue to do it nearly flawlessly. They have improved as musicians in that sense, they want to keep challenging themselves, and as a result they have pushed musical boundaries more and more with each album. You might not like it, but I personally love the result. I don't have any nostalgia for Undertow because from a musician's perspective, there wasn't much to "sink my teeth into," as Danny Carey would say. With each album, they have only become MORE my favorite band. There is nothing I miss, because I know that everything they make in the future will only be more musically sophisticated than what they've already made. I don't see why the band's improving and taking a much more progressive approach than Undertow makes you sad.
i understand what you're saying here, but starting out a sentence with 'Fact is" is really out of your jurisdiction, unless of course you had a hand in writing the music. It may be more complex far as song structure, but im pretty sure a good bit of thought went into undertow and opiate. Just because the songs arent upwards of 10 min in length doesnt mean they skimped on the content, or that the songs are any less thoughtful. They have certainly evolved, and whether they have improved the leaps and bounds you profess is subjective, not fact.
Not trying to start a pissing contest here, no harm no foul.
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Absolutely true. The only thing 10,000 Days doesn't have is as much of a flow as Lateralus had. But I think this is only the case going between Jambi and Wings for Marie, and then from !0,000 Days to The Pot. Vicarious to Jambi is a fine transition, and then beginning with The Pot, the rest of the album flows like one very dynamic piece (especially Lost Keys>Rosetta Stoned>Intension>Right in Two).
Yes, the transition on either side of Wings/10k Days could have been better, but the song writing makes up for it in my opinion. Lateralus and 10,000 Days display musicianship that the previous albums don't even come close to matching.
I've recently tried moving Wings/Days to after Right in Two and before Viginti Tres. I read somewhere on here that the voice on VT is saying "Asisco" (if my spelling is correct) which apparently is latin for ascent. If so it could be about the "acsent of the spirit". Once I started listening to VT in this way, possibly directly related to Wings/Days, it totally changed my perspective on that track. And after all the talk of "lack of flow" on 10kdays, I've noticed the album is a little more powerful in that order... although, entirely backloaded with the huge, multi-part tracks.
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I've recently tried moving Wings/Days to after Right in Two and before Viginti Tres. I read somewhere on here that the voice on VT is saying "Asisco" (if my spelling is correct) which apparently is latin for ascent. If so it could be about the "acsent of the spirit". Once I started listening to VT in this way, possibly directly related to Wings/Days, it totally changed my perspective on that track. And after all the talk of "lack of flow" on 10kdays, I've noticed the album is a little more powerful in that order... although, entirely backloaded with the huge, multi-part tracks.
I think that's actually the way it was originally put together, according to an interview I read a while back. Then Tool decided it didn't flow as well and moved it to between Jambi and The Pot. It does kind of backload the album with the long tracks...maybe they thought so too. It think that could have worked if they had given Vicarious and Jambi a little more connectivity by linking them together somehow. Oh well.
withspirit, i totally understand, and *somewhat* agree with what you say...
however, bashing undertow is not very bright. give the title track undertow a listen and get back to us...
I've heard it many times...what about it?
Go listen to Undertow. Now listen to Rosetta Stoned. There's just no comparison. Undertow is way better than most modern music, but compared to Tool's more current music, it's just...bad, boring, unsophisticated. It's nowhere close even being in the same league as far as complexity and musicianship in general. I'm not saying complexity makes music good, but the newer songs objectively contain more complex and difficult songwriting techniques. They are much more progressive in every sense of the word. I also think they're more emotional, and the lyrics blow the older music out of the water.
I'm not saying you're not allowed to like Undertow more either, but I definitely don't for the reasons I've given in this thread.
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Go listen to Undertow. Now listen to Rosetta Stoned. There's just no comparison. Undertow is way better than most modern music, but compared to Tool's more current music, it's just...bad, boring, unsophisticated. It's nowhere close even being in the same league as far as complexity and musicianship in general. I'm not saying complexity makes music good, but the newer songs objectively contain more complex and difficult songwriting techniques. They are much more progressive in every sense of the word. I also think they're more emotional, and the lyrics blow the older music out of the water.
I'm not saying you're not allowed to like Undertow more either, but I definitely don't for the reasons I've given in this thread.
i dont like undertow "more". i'm sort of playing devils advocate.
i absolutely love rosetta stoned, its brilliant.
this arguement can go on forever. i mean, lets take intension. its definitely not a "complex" song at all, its very subtle and very simple. yet, its very powerful, and its one of my favorite off 10000 days.
its not really a matter of comparing the agressive nature of undertow with a song like intension. obviously, they are worlds apart when measuring similiarities.
it's a matter of seeing how much they have grown spiritually, musically, and emotionally.
The thread title isnt implying Tool needs an album to tour. The reason Elton titled the thread that way is because Tool have been using the same process for about a decade now. They release an epic album, base the tours theme off the vibe of the new album and tour the shit out of the planet for 2 years. Then 3 years pass and they release another album, and so on.
When they announced this tour, a lot of us hoped that would mean different songs than what they just finished playing 300 or so times.
First, and with all due respect, your first paragraph is factually wrong.
Second, your logic is inconsistent. On the one hand, you and others who have similarly opined argue TOOL is stale because they're playing the same set. On the other hand, you and the others maintain TOOL should stick to their decade-old routine by not touring unless they release an epic album. So do you want TOOL to stick to their routine or not???
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I'm curious to see what Blair's May newsletter says with regard to this tour, and the writing process for the next album. I must be crazy but, the last two have been a little more revealing than most, I guess I'm just hoping he'll shed some light on the questions every Tool fan is asking.
"Will there be anything new on this tour?"
"Will the band continue to write on the road?"
"What is the mood going on in the rehearsal space?"
"Can we expect serious progress on the album after this tour is up?"
"Perhaps a release before the year is out?"
"Should I have myself checked into an mental institution?"
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I think that's actually the way it was originally put together, according to an interview I read a while back. Then Tool decided it didn't flow as well and moved it to between Jambi and The Pot. It does kind of backload the album with the long tracks...maybe they thought so too. It think that could have worked if they had given Vicarious and Jambi a little more connectivity by linking them together somehow. Oh well.
The hardest part I've experienced in listening to the album in that revised order is training myself to expect more music after Right in Two. I've always felt like that track was an excellent closer. Something about the overall mood of that track and how it ends... just seems so final.
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The hardest part I've experienced in listening to the album in that revised order is training myself to expect more music after Right in Two. I've always felt like that track was an excellent closer. Something about the overall mood of that track and how it ends... just seems so final.
I agree. I never even thought adding Virginti Tres was necessary.
I often listen to albums on repeat, and aside from the "ascent of the spirit" interp of Viginti Tres, I like the track, even if it's for nothing more than a breather before starting back up on Vicarious.
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Ok, this is turning into something silly because most of you seem to lack the cognitive prowess to stay on topic when it is dealing with subject matter that makes you question your idols (tool).
No one on my side of the argument is for the band repeating themselves over and over and making Aenima 2.0, 3.0 etc etc. So this idea that we are against the "evolution" of the band is laughable at best and embarrassing for those who have claimed this.
I made this thread in the beginning of 2009 and was dissapointed that tool was going to do a summer tour with the EXACT same setlist and EXACT same stage setup as they did all through 2006-2008.
If repeating the same songs and touring with the same stage setup for half a decade is your idea of "evolution" I think you should go back and read what the word actually means because what tool are doing is the polar opposite of evolving in their live act.
And here is the main point, the bottom line that none of you want to hear. Maynard cant sing anymore. The band is forced to play songs that he can barely pull off live, it would be painful to watch maynard try to sing any of his more vocally challenging songs. Once again, this is not my opinion... this is objective truth.
So all of you knuckledragging troglodytes who are wishing for an obscure setlist after i was proved right in 2009 and will be again this summer tour...why dont you start wishing in 1 hand and shitting in the other and see which one fills up the fastest. =)
I made this thread in the beginning of 2009 and was dissapointed that tool was going to do a summer tour with the EXACT same setlist and EXACT same stage setup as they did all through 2006-2008.
Well, the stage actually has changed a good bit each time out. The 2006 set up was pretty vastly different from the 2007 and 2009 tours. Unless having screens behind them and floor projections automatically = "exact same." Which of course, it doesn't.
Not an earth-shattering change, but it DOES make you sound an utter twat when you proclaim things like the above.
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And here is the main point, the bottom line that none of you want to hear. Maynard cant sing anymore. The band is forced to play songs that he can barely pull off live, it would be painful to watch maynard try to sing any of his more vocally challenging songs. Once again, this is not my opinion... this is objective truth.
Oh right. Well since it's "objective truth," then I suppose you can link us all to this amazing tell all interview where this was revealed? Because I'm sure the only way you know this isn't through bitter fanwanking and hearsay. Right? Right?
(ETA: This complaint is even more laughable when you listen to recordings of The Pot from these tours. When he's not sick (which is rare), he can still belt out screams like he always has. Not with the same frequency that he used to, but who can? Answer: no one. Unless they just sound like shit live to begin with. And honestly, in many ways I'd say his voice has improved over the years. His tone isn't quite as high/nasally as it used to be.)
his voice during the puscifer shows was very impressive. during the houston show (which was flawless) he belted out a few screams and yells that gave me fucking goosebumps. I understand the delivery and demand of his voice is different between the two bands, but the ol' man still has it and he's not afraid to use it (especially on nights when the stars line up perfectly and the area isn't filled with smoke).
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his voice during the puscifer shows was very impressive. during the houston show (which was flawless) he belted out a few screams and yells that gave me fucking goosebumps. I understand the delivery and demand of his voice is different between the two bands, but the ol' man still has it and he's not afraid to use it (especially on nights when the stars line up perfectly and the area isn't filled with smoke).
the whole 'smoke hurts my sensitive cunt' deal is getting old
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If repeating the same songs and touring with the same stage setup for half a decade is your idea of "evolution" I think you should go back and read what the word actually means because what tool are doing is the polar opposite of evolving in their live act.
to my understanding, evolution is a biological process consisting of small changes over a (usually very long) period of time. i think this accurately describes what tool is doing.
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And here is the main point, the bottom line that none of you want to hear. Maynard cant sing anymore. The band is forced to play songs that he can barely pull off live, it would be painful to watch maynard try to sing any of his more vocally challenging songs. Once again, this is not my opinion... this is objective truth.
as mentioned before, in puscifer he has belted out awesome screams in several cities. and during last tool tour in dallas during rosetta stoned he let out a scream better than the album version.
i fully expect the same setlist and frankly dont give a shit that it is the same.
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Show of hands: who here has sang intensively for 2 hours in a smokey environment? Anyone?
You know, he's far from the only singer who feels that way and asks that of his audience.
are you his personal cheerleader??
im just saying just because you ask people not to do something, you shouldnt be so disillusioned to think they will listen regardless of who you are, ESPECIALLY at a concert.
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Ok, this is turning into something silly because most of you seem to lack the cognitive prowess to stay on topic when it is dealing with subject matter that makes you question your idols (tool).
Oh for fuck sake, pull your head out of your ass and look at where you are. When as anyone ever stayed on topic here? I'm usually pretty forgiving, but you sir, are an asshole.
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And here is the main point, the bottom line that none of you want to hear. Maynard cant sing anymore. The band is forced to play songs that he can barely pull off live, it would be painful to watch maynard try to sing any of his more vocally challenging songs. Once again, this is not my opinion... this is objective truth.
False. Plain and simple. Seeing/Hearing is believing. I (and many others) saw him in Chicago 2 months ago for the Puscifer shows. Both nights he sang flawlessly, hit the high notes and belted out the screams. The jaw dropping screams that everyone is talking about came from the live version of Undertaker they were performing. Make no mistake, They fucking rocked. And they did it night after night after night.
I agree Maynard's performance with Tool over the past 3 years has lacked the zest it once had. But he's still swung par for the course. So forgive us if some of us choose to be optimistic that Maynard has been slightly reinvigorated as of late.
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So all of you knuckledragging troglodytes who are wishing for an obscure setlist after i was proved right in 2009 and will be again this summer tour...why dont you start wishing in 1 hand and shitting in the other and see which one fills up the fastest. =)
Thank you for your wonderful foresight and overwhelming pessimism, but this is still an open forum for people to discuss their own opinions so please drop the high and mighty act.
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I just listened to a live version of flood that is about 1 1/2 minutes long and maynard sounded better than he ever did on the 10kdays tour. Maybe there is hope for his voice.
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Originally Posted by Elton John
And here is the main point, the bottom line that none of you want to hear. Maynard cant sing anymore. The band is forced to play songs that he can barely pull off live, it would be painful to watch maynard try to sing any of his more vocally challenging songs. Once again, this is not my opinion... this is objective truth.
