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07-26-2009, 07:28 PM

longtime fan, first time poster. dallas was my 8th show and i was at san antonio day before. dallas was a fucking great show, my second favorite tool show. houston 02 at the summit was the best. but dude, i can't get over this dallas show. that shit went HARD!

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Re: 07.25.09 - Dallas, TX @ Nokia Theatre (Grand Prairie)

longtime fan, first time poster. dallas was my 8th show and i was at san antonio day before. dallas was a fucking great show, my second favorite tool show. houston 02 at the summit was the best. but dude, i can't get over this dallas show. that shit went HARD!

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07-26-2009, 08:01 PM

i have visited this site many times and read many random peoples' reviews. i have found their opinions both entertaining and helpful. the people who seem to strongly naysay... i find myself disagreeing with them but i do understand where they are coming from. (not enough, i need more.)

tool live is a fucking powerful thing. i was in section 407 near the ceiling. but dead center stage. it wound up being a fucking excellent vantage point. the energy of the crowd was better than san antonio the night before. the band played better and sounded better. in short i was fucking blown away. that building got absolutely ROCKED!

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Re: 07.25.09 - Dallas, TX @ Nokia Theatre (Grand Prairie)

i have visited this site many times and read many random peoples' reviews. i have found their opinions both entertaining and helpful. the people who seem to strongly naysay... i find myself disagreeing with them but i do understand where they are coming from. (not enough, i need more.)

tool live is a fucking powerful thing. i was in section 407 near the ceiling. but dead center stage. it wound up being a fucking excellent vantage point. the energy of the crowd was better than san antonio the night before. the band played better and sounded better. in short i was fucking blown away. that building got absolutely ROCKED!

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07-26-2009, 09:24 PM

2nd Show ever. First was in August '98 and I've very sadly been unable to attend one since. That show was a mixed benchmark, except for showmanship, as the sound in Fair Park Coliseum was PAINFULLY loud and completely muddled in the bleachers by the venue's acoustics to the point that I couldn't tell what was going on in several songs and was holding my ears, something which depresses me to this day because the set list was EPIC. So I have to say I was disappointed not so much in the songs for this tour (haven't heard most of them live) but the length of the set and the lack of songs I wish I had heard on previous tours. The sound was pretty good at Nokia. It could have been a little less loud overall for the sake of clarity, but for the most part I could hear all the instruments pretty well including Danny and they were nicely balanced. Maynard's vocals were a bit overwhelmed in the mix though and it seemed they could have simply lowered the instruments slightly and raised the vocals slightly and it would have been perfect. I think all sound engineers are deaf.

Gripes out of the way, this was Tool and I could hear it so it was AWESOME! The sightlines from upper inside 205 were wonderful. We had a great view of everything, and it's amazing what I've missed out on for 11 FUCKING YEARS, including the visuals that Junior puts together. It's such an integral component to the experience, there's nothing like it. Thanks for all your hard work!

I've been nervously following the reviews for this tour and here are my observations with that in mind:

I could usually hear Maynard's voice pretty well, especially if I flexed my "yawn" muscles in my ears to cut the bass mud, and he sounded very strong. He might have held some screams a little longer, but I wouldn't say he pulled off or seemed shaky or off pitch, and I felt like he was giving 100%. I would have preferred if he'd sung Vicarious through the mic instead of the bullhorn though-- it would have been more moving and he certainly could have handled it that night. As for his attitude/mood, he seemed as real and appreciative and happy and engaged as I've seen or heard on any concert video or in '98. Yeah I miss the extended stuff like his Reverend Maynard bit, but things change and he's still fun. I think the crowd being so energized, responsive, and able to sing along to the old stuff really gave the band something to feed off of-- so many real fans.

Adam and Justin seemed as on as can be from where I was standing, but it's possible I missed some things mentioned by pit fans due to acoustics and not being close enough to watch their fingers and faces in detail.

AEnema: Holy shit, as one of the songs in '98 I could hear OK, it all came flooding back. Hahahah... sorry.

Jambi kicked ass (though the talk-box solo was a little hard to follow in the mix) as did the fast breakdown and Danny's superhuman drumming in Schism.

Stinkfist sounded great, Maynard and Danny rocked it.

Flood= greatness, sung beautifully

46 & 2 has always sounded a bit "commercial" to me but it does have a great climax and is a very solid song, they played it as well as anything this night.

Had no fucking clue what Maynard was saying during the fast bits in Rosetta Stoned (and I'd LOVE to know, lol) and the mix wasn't helping, probably just too loud in that regard since I don't THINK the megaphone is even mic'ed (anyone know?). But the visuals were great and the ending was intense.

Lateralus was sung very well and the drum-off was a lot of fun, as was watching Maynard write the Tweak Bird drummer a ticket. That song is plain and simple a spiritual experience and even more-so live.

Vicarious: We all know how that went, Adam had a serious tech problem and the timing couldn't have been worse, major anti-climax, but hey shit happens and they handled it with good humor and some funny improv by Maynard so it's just something to remember. Would have liked to leave with more of a crescendo, but short of playing an extra unrehearsed song to compensate whattya gonna do?

It was great to see Maynard get down to his shorts after hearing he wasn't really consistent about that on this tour-- it just gave that raw, nostalgic feeling I'd missed by not seeing them again for so long.

All I know is I CANNOT miss their next tour, and if they're at Nokia again I'm going for the pit.

The love of the music and knowledge of what they can do leads me to make the few critiques I do because we all want the upsides of the live experience without anything lost, but this WAS TOOL and it WAS AWESOME and I'll take them ANY DAY over anyone else's faultless performance in an acoustically perfect venue. The music is just too damned good.

See ya'll in about a year and a half.

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Re: 07.25.09 - Dallas, TX @ Nokia Theatre (Grand Prairie)

2nd Show ever. First was in August '98 and I've very sadly been unable to attend one since. That show was a mixed benchmark, except for showmanship, as the sound in Fair Park Coliseum was PAINFULLY loud and completely muddled in the bleachers by the venue's acoustics to the point that I couldn't tell what was going on in several songs and was holding my ears, something which depresses me to this day because the set list was EPIC. So I have to say I was disappointed not so much in the songs for this tour (haven't heard most of them live) but the length of the set and the lack of songs I wish I had heard on previous tours. The sound was pretty good at Nokia. It could have been a little less loud overall for the sake of clarity, but for the most part I could hear all the instruments pretty well including Danny and they were nicely balanced. Maynard's vocals were a bit overwhelmed in the mix though and it seemed they could have simply lowered the instruments slightly and raised the vocals slightly and it would have been perfect. I think all sound engineers are deaf.

Gripes out of the way, this was Tool and I could hear it so it was AWESOME! The sightlines from upper inside 205 were wonderful. We had a great view of everything, and it's amazing what I've missed out on for 11 FUCKING YEARS, including the visuals that Junior puts together. It's such an integral component to the experience, there's nothing like it. Thanks for all your hard work!

I've been nervously following the reviews for this tour and here are my observations with that in mind:

I could usually hear Maynard's voice pretty well, especially if I flexed my "yawn" muscles in my ears to cut the bass mud, and he sounded very strong. He might have held some screams a little longer, but I wouldn't say he pulled off or seemed shaky or off pitch, and I felt like he was giving 100%. I would have preferred if he'd sung Vicarious through the mic instead of the bullhorn though-- it would have been more moving and he certainly could have handled it that night. As for his attitude/mood, he seemed as real and appreciative and happy and engaged as I've seen or heard on any concert video or in '98. Yeah I miss the extended stuff like his Reverend Maynard bit, but things change and he's still fun. I think the crowd being so energized, responsive, and able to sing along to the old stuff really gave the band something to feed off of-- so many real fans.

Adam and Justin seemed as on as can be from where I was standing, but it's possible I missed some things mentioned by pit fans due to acoustics and not being close enough to watch their fingers and faces in detail.

AEnema: Holy shit, as one of the songs in '98 I could hear OK, it all came flooding back. Hahahah... sorry.

Jambi kicked ass (though the talk-box solo was a little hard to follow in the mix) as did the fast breakdown and Danny's superhuman drumming in Schism.

Stinkfist sounded great, Maynard and Danny rocked it.

Flood= greatness, sung beautifully

46 & 2 has always sounded a bit "commercial" to me but it does have a great climax and is a very solid song, they played it as well as anything this night.

Had no fucking clue what Maynard was saying during the fast bits in Rosetta Stoned (and I'd LOVE to know, lol) and the mix wasn't helping, probably just too loud in that regard since I don't THINK the megaphone is even mic'ed (anyone know?). But the visuals were great and the ending was intense.

Lateralus was sung very well and the drum-off was a lot of fun, as was watching Maynard write the Tweak Bird drummer a ticket. That song is plain and simple a spiritual experience and even more-so live.

Vicarious: We all know how that went, Adam had a serious tech problem and the timing couldn't have been worse, major anti-climax, but hey shit happens and they handled it with good humor and some funny improv by Maynard so it's just something to remember. Would have liked to leave with more of a crescendo, but short of playing an extra unrehearsed song to compensate whattya gonna do?

It was great to see Maynard get down to his shorts after hearing he wasn't really consistent about that on this tour-- it just gave that raw, nostalgic feeling I'd missed by not seeing them again for so long.

All I know is I CANNOT miss their next tour, and if they're at Nokia again I'm going for the pit.

The love of the music and knowledge of what they can do leads me to make the few critiques I do because we all want the upsides of the live experience without anything lost, but this WAS TOOL and it WAS AWESOME and I'll take them ANY DAY over anyone else's faultless performance in an acoustically perfect venue. The music is just too damned good.

See ya'll in about a year and a half.

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07-26-2009, 11:16 PM

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The venue has a great sound system and it was LOUD. You could feel the sound of Danny's drums. .
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I knew as soon as they announced the venue, that there were going to be some problems.
I've been to this Nikia countless times, I've seen APC there at least 4! Not to mention Manson, The Mars Volta, and many
Others. THEIR SOUND SYSTEM HAS ALWAYS SUCKED SWEATY DONKEY BALLS! This time there were way too many effects going through
Those under powered pieces of shit.
FYI: The sound system for the Tool show (and probably most of the shows ZantheriaN mentioned) is not the Nokia's. Tool (and most touring rock bands at that level) carry their own PA system. Having been to the Nokia about 8 times with various bands (including APC) I can say that every one of those shows used a sound system that was brought in there by the band, and not a house system of any kind.


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I think all sound engineers are deaf.
Quite possible. I think the opposite tends to be the exception, but I know a few who aren't deaf.


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I paid $200 for a seat in the row directly in front of the sound engineer. I thought the sound at that seat would be as good as any in the Nokia Theater, but I could barely "hear" Maynards vocals, due to what seemed to me was a bad mix. From the posts, it seems like others heard him much more clearly than I did. The sound was so loud, the bass drums vibrated my nostrils. That is not an exaggeration. The sound was LOUD, and I was disappointed that they chose loudness over quality. I couldn't tell you what words Maynard was saying or singing, and I certainly couldn't tell if Adam or Justin was out of sync at any point. Can anyone who has experience with sound engineering at a concert enlighten me on what the goal for the sound is? If loudness was the goal, then they did a good job!
Seems like a legitimate gripe. The biggest problem is that sound people tend to think that the quality of a mix is very 'subjective' and usually ignore all complaints.
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The venue has a great sound system and it was LOUD. You could feel the sound of Danny's drums. .
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Originally Posted by ZantheriaN
I knew as soon as they announced the venue, that there were going to be some problems.
I've been to this Nikia countless times, I've seen APC there at least 4! Not to mention Manson, The Mars Volta, and many
Others. THEIR SOUND SYSTEM HAS ALWAYS SUCKED SWEATY DONKEY BALLS! This time there were way too many effects going through
Those under powered pieces of shit.
FYI: The sound system for the Tool show (and probably most of the shows ZantheriaN mentioned) is not the Nokia's. Tool (and most touring rock bands at that level) carry their own PA system. Having been to the Nokia about 8 times with various bands (including APC) I can say that every one of those shows used a sound system that was brought in there by the band, and not a house system of any kind.


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I think all sound engineers are deaf.
Quite possible. I think the opposite tends to be the exception, but I know a few who aren't deaf.


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I paid $200 for a seat in the row directly in front of the sound engineer. I thought the sound at that seat would be as good as any in the Nokia Theater, but I could barely "hear" Maynards vocals, due to what seemed to me was a bad mix. From the posts, it seems like others heard him much more clearly than I did. The sound was so loud, the bass drums vibrated my nostrils. That is not an exaggeration. The sound was LOUD, and I was disappointed that they chose loudness over quality. I couldn't tell you what words Maynard was saying or singing, and I certainly couldn't tell if Adam or Justin was out of sync at any point. Can anyone who has experience with sound engineering at a concert enlighten me on what the goal for the sound is? If loudness was the goal, then they did a good job!
Seems like a legitimate gripe. The biggest problem is that sound people tend to think that the quality of a mix is very 'subjective' and usually ignore all complaints.
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Seems like a legitimate gripe. The biggest problem is that sound people tend to think that the quality of a mix is very 'subjective' and usually ignore all complaints.
So does Tool use their own sound people wherever they go or do they just hook up their system and let Nokia's guys run the sound? Do sound people you know have any particular approach to getting a read on how the audiences tend to be perceiving their mixing as a tour or venue's experience with a band progresses (watching forums, surveys, ?) or do they just feel like there's really no way to get more precise due to acoustic variables so they just fully trust their own ears?

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Seems like a legitimate gripe. The biggest problem is that sound people tend to think that the quality of a mix is very 'subjective' and usually ignore all complaints.
So does Tool use their own sound people wherever they go or do they just hook up their system and let Nokia's guys run the sound? Do sound people you know have any particular approach to getting a read on how the audiences tend to be perceiving their mixing as a tour or venue's experience with a band progresses (watching forums, surveys, ?) or do they just feel like there's really no way to get more precise due to acoustic variables so they just fully trust their own ears?

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07-27-2009, 09:02 AM

I have seen 15 tool concerts.
This was my 3rd fav.
"It was Worse than A Job Interview"
The way they got into my head .
That was my tagline.
Awesome show great sound.
Great setline (fuck all the Haters)
Great venue.
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I have seen 15 tool concerts.
This was my 3rd fav.
"It was Worse than A Job Interview"
The way they got into my head .
That was my tagline.
Awesome show great sound.
Great setline (fuck all the Haters)
Great venue.
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07-27-2009, 10:06 AM

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So does Tool use their own sound people wherever they go or do they just hook up their system and let Nokia's guys run the sound? Do sound people you know have any particular approach to getting a read on how the audiences tend to be perceiving their mixing as a tour or band affiliation progresses (watching forums, surveys, ?) or do they just feel like there's really no way to get more precise due to acoustic variables so they just fully trust their own ears?
Tool carries a sound crew of 6 people, including the 2 engineers.
1 guy is in charge of mixing the sound for the audience (also known as 'Front of House Engineer', or FOH, for short), 1 guy assists him (FOH tech), 2 guys fly (hang) the PA system (speakers), 1 guy mixes the on-stage sound for the band (Monitor Engineer), and 1 guy assists him (Monitor Tech).
The current Monitor Engineer has been mixing for the band since 2007. He's the 7th one since 1996.
The current FOH Engineer has been mixing for the audience since 2001, though he missed a chunk of shows in 2001, 2006, and 2007. Since 1996 there have been 7 people in that position, also.

Most sound guys I've worked with tend to ignore what other people think.
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So does Tool use their own sound people wherever they go or do they just hook up their system and let Nokia's guys run the sound? Do sound people you know have any particular approach to getting a read on how the audiences tend to be perceiving their mixing as a tour or band affiliation progresses (watching forums, surveys, ?) or do they just feel like there's really no way to get more precise due to acoustic variables so they just fully trust their own ears?
Tool carries a sound crew of 6 people, including the 2 engineers.
1 guy is in charge of mixing the sound for the audience (also known as 'Front of House Engineer', or FOH, for short), 1 guy assists him (FOH tech), 2 guys fly (hang) the PA system (speakers), 1 guy mixes the on-stage sound for the band (Monitor Engineer), and 1 guy assists him (Monitor Tech).
The current Monitor Engineer has been mixing for the band since 2007. He's the 7th one since 1996.
The current FOH Engineer has been mixing for the audience since 2001, though he missed a chunk of shows in 2001, 2006, and 2007. Since 1996 there have been 7 people in that position, also.

Most sound guys I've worked with tend to ignore what other people think.
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07-27-2009, 11:19 AM

Damn the luck, the forum seemed down most of the morning and then I couldn't remember by password. Finally... I'm here to weigh in. Third Tool show, and not the best Tool show I've seen. My first and unequivocally the best; the '01 Lateralus show at Reunion Arena. I don't think that show can ever be outdone. Truly a life altering experience. The '06 10K Days show at AAC was also exceptional.

Alrighty then, picture this if you will... first big thanks to my neighbor who works for AEG for the AEG hotel suite rate and the comped parking. Arrived a little early for some tailgating; too damn hot. Wanted to get inside to see Tweak Bird anyway. First complaint... you would think Nokia would have opened a few more doors on the front entrance (they finally did open like one or two more). Took almost 40 minutes to get in. Glad we decided to head in when we did. Spent 20 minutes in line at merch. Finally, on to our seats. 203 EE, phenomenal seats! Tweak Bird is playing, we're ramped up. Someone in our seats! Compare tix. Same row and seat. Them = hard tickets. Me = E-ticket print out from broker. Mind racing... "Damn, I got fucked!" I didn't bother to check the section on their tix. Damn hydro clouding my logic! Turns out they were in the wrong section. So, missed all but one song of Tweak Bird's set ensuring that I didn't get the hucklebuck from the ticket broker. On with the show.

Jambi dropped and it was ON. I was a little disappoited with Maynard's recycled stage act. But his "Sorry about the Alamo." comment was classic. Setlist, no surprises. I was surprised that there wasn't something unique about this show though, as Blair touted on the band site. Danny's performance was impeccable as always, and he was "clutch" in putting things back together following Adam and Justin's inconsistencies. The guitar technical difficulties during Vicarious, and Maynard's "chicken clucking guitar beatbox complete with record scratching" impromptu was great. He even laughed at himself. My wife and I enjoyed the show immensely.

To all of the naysayers... yes, this wasn't their greatest performance. Give or take a botched measure or two and Maynard's vox being low in the mix; this band still impresses and they possess an insurmountable talent. When it was all over and lights were on the crowd, they received a lengthy resounding ovation worthy of the gods. They deserved it and appeared very appreciative. To me that was enough.
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Damn the luck, the forum seemed down most of the morning and then I couldn't remember by password. Finally... I'm here to weigh in. Third Tool show, and not the best Tool show I've seen. My first and unequivocally the best; the '01 Lateralus show at Reunion Arena. I don't think that show can ever be outdone. Truly a life altering experience. The '06 10K Days show at AAC was also exceptional.

Alrighty then, picture this if you will... first big thanks to my neighbor who works for AEG for the AEG hotel suite rate and the comped parking. Arrived a little early for some tailgating; too damn hot. Wanted to get inside to see Tweak Bird anyway. First complaint... you would think Nokia would have opened a few more doors on the front entrance (they finally did open like one or two more). Took almost 40 minutes to get in. Glad we decided to head in when we did. Spent 20 minutes in line at merch. Finally, on to our seats. 203 EE, phenomenal seats! Tweak Bird is playing, we're ramped up. Someone in our seats! Compare tix. Same row and seat. Them = hard tickets. Me = E-ticket print out from broker. Mind racing... "Damn, I got fucked!" I didn't bother to check the section on their tix. Damn hydro clouding my logic! Turns out they were in the wrong section. So, missed all but one song of Tweak Bird's set ensuring that I didn't get the hucklebuck from the ticket broker. On with the show.

Jambi dropped and it was ON. I was a little disappoited with Maynard's recycled stage act. But his "Sorry about the Alamo." comment was classic. Setlist, no surprises. I was surprised that there wasn't something unique about this show though, as Blair touted on the band site. Danny's performance was impeccable as always, and he was "clutch" in putting things back together following Adam and Justin's inconsistencies. The guitar technical difficulties during Vicarious, and Maynard's "chicken clucking guitar beatbox complete with record scratching" impromptu was great. He even laughed at himself. My wife and I enjoyed the show immensely.

To all of the naysayers... yes, this wasn't their greatest performance. Give or take a botched measure or two and Maynard's vox being low in the mix; this band still impresses and they possess an insurmountable talent. When it was all over and lights were on the crowd, they received a lengthy resounding ovation worthy of the gods. They deserved it and appeared very appreciative. To me that was enough.
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And seeing as I also love the music itself, I could live with seeing the other three members without Maynard (though it would be strange).
This is basically what happened to me the last time I saw them in Houston back in 2006. It was right when Maynard was losing his voice. He only sang 25%-30% of the time, if I remember correctly. It was still a good show cause the other three are great musicians, but it was weird.
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And seeing as I also love the music itself, I could live with seeing the other three members without Maynard (though it would be strange).
This is basically what happened to me the last time I saw them in Houston back in 2006. It was right when Maynard was losing his voice. He only sang 25%-30% of the time, if I remember correctly. It was still a good show cause the other three are great musicians, but it was weird.
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07-27-2009, 12:10 PM

This was my 12th show. Not the greatest but definitely not the worst. I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Not sure what all the sound complaints are coming from. I heard everything clearly from my seat. Everything was crystal clear and I was loving every minute of it. I must say I wasnt "excited" about the setlist but still not a bad night when you go toa TOOL show. Cant wait for show number 13.

Side note: I took my gf who had never even heard of the band and she even had a kickass time. Granted she's not one to go to many shows or really get into music but she had an amazing time.... I got her a pair of the Tool boyshorts so cant wait to see her in those. lol


One more thing... Sorry if this is against the rules, but I havent been on the board in some time. I recall last tour there was several links to bootlegs of the shows and I have yet to see one. Is this no longer aloud or has there not been any that has surfaced?

Thanks again in advance... Or apologize for asking... ha
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This was my 12th show. Not the greatest but definitely not the worst. I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Not sure what all the sound complaints are coming from. I heard everything clearly from my seat. Everything was crystal clear and I was loving every minute of it. I must say I wasnt "excited" about the setlist but still not a bad night when you go toa TOOL show. Cant wait for show number 13.

Side note: I took my gf who had never even heard of the band and she even had a kickass time. Granted she's not one to go to many shows or really get into music but she had an amazing time.... I got her a pair of the Tool boyshorts so cant wait to see her in those. lol


One more thing... Sorry if this is against the rules, but I havent been on the board in some time. I recall last tour there was several links to bootlegs of the shows and I have yet to see one. Is this no longer aloud or has there not been any that has surfaced?

Thanks again in advance... Or apologize for asking... ha
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Not sure what all the sound complaints are coming from. I heard everything clearly from my seat. Everything was crystal clear and I was loving every minute of it.
Just out of curiosity, where were you sitting?
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Not sure what all the sound complaints are coming from. I heard everything clearly from my seat. Everything was crystal clear and I was loving every minute of it.
Just out of curiosity, where were you sitting?
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07-27-2009, 12:53 PM

Very simply, they played ever song at 85% tempo. They had a "technical mishap" which means they screwed up. They were not on, and the lack of practice was readily clear.
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Very simply, they played ever song at 85% tempo. They had a "technical mishap" which means they screwed up. They were not on, and the lack of practice was readily clear.
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07-27-2009, 01:11 PM

Long time voyeur, first time poster…
(Section 204…2nd row (BB) seat 11…DEAD F-ING center!) Best seats I’ve ever had at a Tool concert and it was GREATNESS! I even brought my binoculars…it was like I was standing right next to them :-D

This was my 7th Tool show and I’ve never left a show disappointed. That includes the 2007 Houston show when Maynard was sick and didn’t even finish a single song…I still had a blast. Like others have astutely pointed out…Maynard is 1 of 4 extremely talented individuals that encompass Tool. I myself am a son of a drummer and I am completely awestruck watching Danny play live. He is THE MAN!!! I've brought my dad to the past 3 shows and even though he is a long time Christian who plays drum at church week in and week out, he really enjoys watch Tool live...gota respect Danny behind the set...he is a madman.

Speaking of drummers...am I the only one who thought the drum dual was a complete disaster (both nights)? What's his nut's from TweekBird needs to never be on stage with Danny again...he just isn't even close to the same level as Danny and it ends up sounding like a complete mess when they pass off to one another. He needs to learn to back off the toms when Danny takes over...just keep a simple rhythm on the cymbals/hi-hat...you don't always have to be hitting skins.

I attended the San Antonio show the night before and even though it was the same playlist, I think Nokia’s show was little better.
<rant>(*Note: I just want to say “EAT SHIT AND DIE!!” to the Ass Holes throwing beer all over me [Section 103 row 34] from up in the balcony at the San Antonio show. I’m trying to enjoy the concert and you Fuck-Tards have to 1. waste perfectly good beer and 2. ruin my Tool concert for no fucking reason…seriously grow up or fucking kill yourself.) </rant>

I agree that it was a little disappointing to hear the same songs from the 10,000 Days tour but it was awesome to hear Flood for the first time live…and they killed it!

The Maynardisms were great…he was a lot more lively than previous shows…which is great…I love his sense of humor. I find his ‘gibberish’ during Rosetta Stoned hilarious. It’s like he’s told the band “you know what…I bet I could spit nothing but gibberish into the mic during Rosetta Stoned and no one would know the difference…” and that’s exactly what he did. Truthfully, San Antonio sounded like straight gibberish while Nokia seemed a little closer to the English language…but not much.

Overall another great time at another Tool show. I can’t wait to fly up to Chicago and see them again at Lollapalooza…it’s going to be the shiznit!

Also little ‘r’ me if you have and/or know where I can get a bootleg copy of the shows (audio/video/pics etc)…I found one from the American Airlines concert and it’s sweeeeet…”Gota piss…gota piss…gota piss…gota piss” Fing hilarious!

PS- I’ve posted some of the Pics I took with my Windows Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 up on my SkyDrive Folder…check’em out.
http://cid-04f85c9d35d059da.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Public

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Long time voyeur, first time poster…
(Section 204…2nd row (BB) seat 11…DEAD F-ING center!) Best seats I’ve ever had at a Tool concert and it was GREATNESS! I even brought my binoculars…it was like I was standing right next to them :-D

This was my 7th Tool show and I’ve never left a show disappointed. That includes the 2007 Houston show when Maynard was sick and didn’t even finish a single song…I still had a blast. Like others have astutely pointed out…Maynard is 1 of 4 extremely talented individuals that encompass Tool. I myself am a son of a drummer and I am completely awestruck watching Danny play live. He is THE MAN!!! I've brought my dad to the past 3 shows and even though he is a long time Christian who plays drum at church week in and week out, he really enjoys watch Tool live...gota respect Danny behind the set...he is a madman.

Speaking of drummers...am I the only one who thought the drum dual was a complete disaster (both nights)? What's his nut's from TweekBird needs to never be on stage with Danny again...he just isn't even close to the same level as Danny and it ends up sounding like a complete mess when they pass off to one another. He needs to learn to back off the toms when Danny takes over...just keep a simple rhythm on the cymbals/hi-hat...you don't always have to be hitting skins.

I attended the San Antonio show the night before and even though it was the same playlist, I think Nokia’s show was little better.
<rant>(*Note: I just want to say “EAT SHIT AND DIE!!” to the Ass Holes throwing beer all over me [Section 103 row 34] from up in the balcony at the San Antonio show. I’m trying to enjoy the concert and you Fuck-Tards have to 1. waste perfectly good beer and 2. ruin my Tool concert for no fucking reason…seriously grow up or fucking kill yourself.) </rant>

I agree that it was a little disappointing to hear the same songs from the 10,000 Days tour but it was awesome to hear Flood for the first time live…and they killed it!

The Maynardisms were great…he was a lot more lively than previous shows…which is great…I love his sense of humor. I find his ‘gibberish’ during Rosetta Stoned hilarious. It’s like he’s told the band “you know what…I bet I could spit nothing but gibberish into the mic during Rosetta Stoned and no one would know the difference…” and that’s exactly what he did. Truthfully, San Antonio sounded like straight gibberish while Nokia seemed a little closer to the English language…but not much.

Overall another great time at another Tool show. I can’t wait to fly up to Chicago and see them again at Lollapalooza…it’s going to be the shiznit!

Also little ‘r’ me if you have and/or know where I can get a bootleg copy of the shows (audio/video/pics etc)…I found one from the American Airlines concert and it’s sweeeeet…”Gota piss…gota piss…gota piss…gota piss” Fing hilarious!

PS- I’ve posted some of the Pics I took with my Windows Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 up on my SkyDrive Folder…check’em out.
http://cid-04f85c9d35d059da.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Public

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07-27-2009, 01:28 PM

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Very simply, they played ever song at 85% tempo. They had a "technical mishap" which means they screwed up. They were not on, and the lack of practice was readily clear.
bull fucking shit. where were you section 409 row ZZ and smashed on liqueur and bars? or something.

i was in the front front row against the rail of the pit, and it sounded perfect, and just cause adams guitar had an electrical problem at the end of the show, doesnt mean they had a lack of practice... its no ones fault... they didnt screw up... his fucking guitar did... do you know how many shows ive been to where that shit happens?

one time seeing dredg, their roadie had too replace the drummers kick pedal WHILE he was playing the song, and he had to play the bass drum parts on the floor tom while the roadie was doing it.... and they didnt miss a beat.... does that mean DREDG fucked up? does that mean they were out of practice?

they were fucking ON. oh, and bullshit. they didnt play every song at 85% tempo.

you are a tool.

oh, check these out and reminisce if you were at the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBtLy0wOU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pYUXWhE_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HyHkWyrhXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EZ2VzOsqM >careful with the audio on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_cuUhBF5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyGnjDJZUY
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Very simply, they played ever song at 85% tempo. They had a "technical mishap" which means they screwed up. They were not on, and the lack of practice was readily clear.
bull fucking shit. where were you section 409 row ZZ and smashed on liqueur and bars? or something.

i was in the front front row against the rail of the pit, and it sounded perfect, and just cause adams guitar had an electrical problem at the end of the show, doesnt mean they had a lack of practice... its no ones fault... they didnt screw up... his fucking guitar did... do you know how many shows ive been to where that shit happens?

one time seeing dredg, their roadie had too replace the drummers kick pedal WHILE he was playing the song, and he had to play the bass drum parts on the floor tom while the roadie was doing it.... and they didnt miss a beat.... does that mean DREDG fucked up? does that mean they were out of practice?

they were fucking ON. oh, and bullshit. they didnt play every song at 85% tempo.

you are a tool.

oh, check these out and reminisce if you were at the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBtLy0wOU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pYUXWhE_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HyHkWyrhXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EZ2VzOsqM >careful with the audio on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_cuUhBF5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyGnjDJZUY
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07-27-2009, 04:52 PM

First of all, this was the best Tool show for me, ONLY because my cherry was popped the previous night in San Antonio. For the SA show, our seats were in the plaza level, not too far away, but enough to make the experience make me crave for more. We bought our Dallas tickets first and by the luck of *insert what you believe here*, got Pit tix 25 minutes after they went on sale. Things that made this show awesome for me:

1. It was my birthday.
2. The smaller size of venue.
3. Was against the rail, dead center between Adam and Justin, Maynard and Danny just a few feet away from me.
4. I had missed Aenima at the SA show due to having to piss so bad, so I got to hear it this time and loved it.
5. Maynard seemed to hide alot in SA, in Dallas, he was very out in the "open" and seemed to thoroughly enjoy himself.

Yes the set list was the same, but who cares? They still put on a great show and the crowd was totally into it. My only gripes were very personal ones. After a security guard accidentally crushed me while trying to restrain some crazy bitch behind me, things were ok. Thanks to the two boys around me who repeatedly asked if I was ok. I was, just a little pissed that my experience had to be interrupted by someone who didn't know how to act.
At the end of the show, Danny threw his drumsticks out and one got deflected onto the floor. Luckily that security guard from earlier remembered me and handed it straight to me. So now I have Danny's splintering stick and proof of the best birthday I've ever had.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...82_2957161.jpg

On a different note, does anyone know the best way to display this?
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First of all, this was the best Tool show for me, ONLY because my cherry was popped the previous night in San Antonio. For the SA show, our seats were in the plaza level, not too far away, but enough to make the experience make me crave for more. We bought our Dallas tickets first and by the luck of *insert what you believe here*, got Pit tix 25 minutes after they went on sale. Things that made this show awesome for me:

1. It was my birthday.
2. The smaller size of venue.
3. Was against the rail, dead center between Adam and Justin, Maynard and Danny just a few feet away from me.
4. I had missed Aenima at the SA show due to having to piss so bad, so I got to hear it this time and loved it.
5. Maynard seemed to hide alot in SA, in Dallas, he was very out in the "open" and seemed to thoroughly enjoy himself.

Yes the set list was the same, but who cares? They still put on a great show and the crowd was totally into it. My only gripes were very personal ones. After a security guard accidentally crushed me while trying to restrain some crazy bitch behind me, things were ok. Thanks to the two boys around me who repeatedly asked if I was ok. I was, just a little pissed that my experience had to be interrupted by someone who didn't know how to act.
At the end of the show, Danny threw his drumsticks out and one got deflected onto the floor. Luckily that security guard from earlier remembered me and handed it straight to me. So now I have Danny's splintering stick and proof of the best birthday I've ever had.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...82_2957161.jpg

On a different note, does anyone know the best way to display this?
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07-27-2009, 07:05 PM

Dear Junior,

EXCELLENT job on everything. Really REALLY enjoyed the new footage for Rosetta Stoned.

Take that message to the band. ......along with another message I hope you will deliver.

Delete the video and audio for the pre-concert commercial or "donation drive", and insert anything else. Fill it with emptiness for all I care, or email it to Blair.....so he can post it on their site (again)

-------------

If you or anyone else could produce a decent resolution picture of the guy in the hat running down the interstate in the desert during RS I would HIGHLY appreciate it.

Fucking GREAT show, didn't mind the "setlist" issue others have had...Flood was great!

Danny practically never left the stage and DJ'd the intermission "siren" sounds (WTF was that? I knew he had the Roland Handsonic, then the digital drums....then this.) SOUNDED AMAZING.

Out of all these posts....I can't believe nobody else thought that the fuckup during Vicarious was going to be a staged *insert what the majority of us who read Blairs post thought may happen* ........
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Dear Junior,

EXCELLENT job on everything. Really REALLY enjoyed the new footage for Rosetta Stoned.

Take that message to the band. ......along with another message I hope you will deliver.

Delete the video and audio for the pre-concert commercial or "donation drive", and insert anything else. Fill it with emptiness for all I care, or email it to Blair.....so he can post it on their site (again)

-------------

If you or anyone else could produce a decent resolution picture of the guy in the hat running down the interstate in the desert during RS I would HIGHLY appreciate it.

Fucking GREAT show, didn't mind the "setlist" issue others have had...Flood was great!

Danny practically never left the stage and DJ'd the intermission "siren" sounds (WTF was that? I knew he had the Roland Handsonic, then the digital drums....then this.) SOUNDED AMAZING.

Out of all these posts....I can't believe nobody else thought that the fuckup during Vicarious was going to be a staged *insert what the majority of us who read Blairs post thought may happen* ........
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bull fucking shit. where were you section 409 row ZZ and smashed on liqueur and bars? or something.

i was in the front front row against the rail of the pit, and it sounded perfect, and just cause adams guitar had an electrical problem at the end of the show, doesnt mean they had a lack of practice... its no ones fault... they didnt screw up... his fucking guitar did... do you know how many shows ive been to where that shit happens?

one time seeing dredg, their roadie had too replace the drummers kick pedal WHILE he was playing the song, and he had to play the bass drum parts on the floor tom while the roadie was doing it.... and they didnt miss a beat.... does that mean DREDG fucked up? does that mean they were out of practice?

they were fucking ON. oh, and bullshit. they didnt play every song at 85% tempo.

you are a tool.

oh, check these out and reminisce if you were at the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBtLy0wOU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pYUXWhE_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HyHkWyrhXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EZ2VzOsqM >careful with the audio on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_cuUhBF5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyGnjDJZUY

Yeah for once, im going to agree with plexus. I definately am not known around here as someone who likes all of tool's descisions they make, and i am the first person to point out when bands sound bad...this was not the case at this concert.

I have been to 11 tool concerts and this was in the top 3. Of course i did have the best seat in the house...101 j...maynard was looking at my gf and i all night.

And i will have to give maynard some props for this concert. This is the first time i have seen him since 2002, where he didnt look like he was just going through the motions. I think the energy of the crowd really go to him. He looked like he was having fun and how could he not?

Ill say it again...the best crowd i have ever seen at any show ever. Every god damn person in that packed small arena was standing up with their hands in the air, dancing during crescendos and singing/cheering at the appropriate times. It was an epic night.
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bull fucking shit. where were you section 409 row ZZ and smashed on liqueur and bars? or something.

i was in the front front row against the rail of the pit, and it sounded perfect, and just cause adams guitar had an electrical problem at the end of the show, doesnt mean they had a lack of practice... its no ones fault... they didnt screw up... his fucking guitar did... do you know how many shows ive been to where that shit happens?

one time seeing dredg, their roadie had too replace the drummers kick pedal WHILE he was playing the song, and he had to play the bass drum parts on the floor tom while the roadie was doing it.... and they didnt miss a beat.... does that mean DREDG fucked up? does that mean they were out of practice?

they were fucking ON. oh, and bullshit. they didnt play every song at 85% tempo.

you are a tool.

oh, check these out and reminisce if you were at the show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBtLy0wOU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pYUXWhE_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HyHkWyrhXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EZ2VzOsqM >careful with the audio on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD_cuUhBF5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VyGnjDJZUY

Yeah for once, im going to agree with plexus. I definately am not known around here as someone who likes all of tool's descisions they make, and i am the first person to point out when bands sound bad...this was not the case at this concert.

I have been to 11 tool concerts and this was in the top 3. Of course i did have the best seat in the house...101 j...maynard was looking at my gf and i all night.

And i will have to give maynard some props for this concert. This is the first time i have seen him since 2002, where he didnt look like he was just going through the motions. I think the energy of the crowd really go to him. He looked like he was having fun and how could he not?

Ill say it again...the best crowd i have ever seen at any show ever. Every god damn person in that packed small arena was standing up with their hands in the air, dancing during crescendos and singing/cheering at the appropriate times. It was an epic night.
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Out of all these posts....I can't believe nobody else thought that the fuckup during Vicarious was going to be a staged *insert what the majority of us who read Blairs post thought may happen* ........
Actually, that didn't occur to me. But what really made me perk up was right before that when Maynard was saying something about being here tonight and it not being another night, and while there may be some similarities with last night/other nights, "this is tonight...", to paraphrase. I was like, "OH SHIT, here it comes, extra song bitches!", but then I realized he was just being maynardsophical. Kind of a mindfuck. Oh well. Lol.
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**Snip**

Out of all these posts....I can't believe nobody else thought that the fuckup during Vicarious was going to be a staged *insert what the majority of us who read Blairs post thought may happen* ........
Actually, that didn't occur to me. But what really made me perk up was right before that when Maynard was saying something about being here tonight and it not being another night, and while there may be some similarities with last night/other nights, "this is tonight...", to paraphrase. I was like, "OH SHIT, here it comes, extra song bitches!", but then I realized he was just being maynardsophical. Kind of a mindfuck. Oh well. Lol.
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SETLIST - (thanks to Ganjalf and jwb for timely updates)
Jambi
Stinkfist
46 & 2
Schism
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Flood
Aenema
Lateralus
Vicarious

8th time for me to see them.

Am i the only one that heard them perform Pink Floyd's 'On the run'. I cant quite place it on the setlist. (maybe at the end of flood and before aenema)
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Do not post in this thread unless you attended this concert(except for me of course).

SETLIST - (thanks to Ganjalf and jwb for timely updates)
Jambi
Stinkfist
46 & 2
Schism
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Flood
Aenema
Lateralus
Vicarious

8th time for me to see them.

Am i the only one that heard them perform Pink Floyd's 'On the run'. I cant quite place it on the setlist. (maybe at the end of flood and before aenema)
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07-28-2009, 03:56 PM

Long time lurker, like many before me. I may never post again, but needed to take this opportunity to say HOLY SHIT!

This is the 7th time I have seen TOOL and is by far the best. I know a lot of you will disagree, but just wait and hear me out.

We arrived around 4 in the afternoon to get in line to try to score a signed poster. After finding out that they were $100 we decided to just hang out behind the venue. Good move! I won't go into a shit load of detail, but needless to say me and the other 10 people back there had something to write home about after that night. Between 4 and 8 we all had the pleasure of meeting and talking with Adam/DC/Justin. After everyone else left (right around 7:40 or so), Maynard made a speedy entrance. Glad we stuck around.

After spending a little time chilling with Ashton from TB we headed inside to take our perch in the nosebleeds. We were escorted down to the pit right after TOOL went on (Thanks Mick!! You are still the shit. I hope Duluth went as well for you as Dallas. Anytime you are in Dallas, the offer still stands)

The show was amazing. Who cares about the set list and fuck the flubs. It was still an amazing experience, and I was not even tripping this time. TB rocked and Ashton's duel was phenomenal.

After the show, we went back to the tour bus area for some more chill time.

Thanks to TOOL for being cool enough to say hi to the fans. Thanks to Tweak Bird for making this an amazing concert experience that will not soon (if ever) be topped and thanks to Mick who made an impossible fucking dream possible.
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Long time lurker, like many before me. I may never post again, but needed to take this opportunity to say HOLY SHIT!

This is the 7th time I have seen TOOL and is by far the best. I know a lot of you will disagree, but just wait and hear me out.

We arrived around 4 in the afternoon to get in line to try to score a signed poster. After finding out that they were $100 we decided to just hang out behind the venue. Good move! I won't go into a shit load of detail, but needless to say me and the other 10 people back there had something to write home about after that night. Between 4 and 8 we all had the pleasure of meeting and talking with Adam/DC/Justin. After everyone else left (right around 7:40 or so), Maynard made a speedy entrance. Glad we stuck around.

After spending a little time chilling with Ashton from TB we headed inside to take our perch in the nosebleeds. We were escorted down to the pit right after TOOL went on (Thanks Mick!! You are still the shit. I hope Duluth went as well for you as Dallas. Anytime you are in Dallas, the offer still stands)

The show was amazing. Who cares about the set list and fuck the flubs. It was still an amazing experience, and I was not even tripping this time. TB rocked and Ashton's duel was phenomenal.

After the show, we went back to the tour bus area for some more chill time.

Thanks to TOOL for being cool enough to say hi to the fans. Thanks to Tweak Bird for making this an amazing concert experience that will not soon (if ever) be topped and thanks to Mick who made an impossible fucking dream possible.
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07-28-2009, 04:58 PM

This was my nineth Tool show.

I made it to the Nokia after driving from San Antonio to Dallas with memories of the night before still swirling around in my head. I went through the line and met up with several friends and my brother and had a good time roaming around the Nokia before the show started. Some of you may remember me as the guy who was in the men's bathroom after Tweak Bird's set with blood gushing out of my nose. Sorry about that. If any of you were the guys who asked me such questions as: Did I get in a fight? Did I snort too much coke? Do I have HIV? Did I get too excited for Tool? The answer is no, I have end-stage liver disease and cirrhosis. Random neverending nosebleeds are a normal occurrence for me. Please excuse me for not being able to answer your questions while you were taking a piss. Also thanks to the Nokia employee who hooked me up with some paper towels after no one wanted to offer a helping hand. But enough about that. I made a mad dash to my seat and made it just as the band was taking stage. It's hard to judge if I enjoyed this show more than the San Antonio show. The light and laser show seemed like they were scaled back, this might be due to the fact that the Nokia is much smaller than the AT&T Center. However I had a great seat on the Southwest Flight Deck, otherwise known as King's Row according to the signs in the venue. The new video during Forty Six & 2 was amazing, after the intro Justin turned around and stared back down into a skeleton-type creature that seemed to be looking back up at him from the floor projection. It was like he was staring into a mirror of death. Very cool. The videos during Rosetta Stoned seemed like they were different as well. Lateralus had the flying red phoenix instead of the newer video from San Antonio. The jams between songs were really great as usual, I remembered hearing a couple of them from the night before and previous Tool shows, however it seems like San Antonio had a jam that I'd never heard before, and Dallas did as well. Hopefully they were sneak peeks of new songs, just as the jams that ended up being parts of Vicarious and Wings/10,000 Days from the 11/16/02 show in Oklahoma City.

Looking forward to the next tour and album. Also looking forward to the Puscifer tour this fall. According to advertisements in the Nokia Maynard will be playing "a bunch in Texas," along with new music (album?) and live video (DVD?)

There is much more to look forward to.
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Re: 07.25.09 - Dallas, TX @ Nokia Theatre (Grand Prairie)

This was my nineth Tool show.

I made it to the Nokia after driving from San Antonio to Dallas with memories of the night before still swirling around in my head. I went through the line and met up with several friends and my brother and had a good time roaming around the Nokia before the show started. Some of you may remember me as the guy who was in the men's bathroom after Tweak Bird's set with blood gushing out of my nose. Sorry about that. If any of you were the guys who asked me such questions as: Did I get in a fight? Did I snort too much coke? Do I have HIV? Did I get too excited for Tool? The answer is no, I have end-stage liver disease and cirrhosis. Random neverending nosebleeds are a normal occurrence for me. Please excuse me for not being able to answer your questions while you were taking a piss. Also thanks to the Nokia employee who hooked me up with some paper towels after no one wanted to offer a helping hand. But enough about that. I made a mad dash to my seat and made it just as the band was taking stage. It's hard to judge if I enjoyed this show more than the San Antonio show. The light and laser show seemed like they were scaled back, this might be due to the fact that the Nokia is much smaller than the AT&T Center. However I had a great seat on the Southwest Flight Deck, otherwise known as King's Row according to the signs in the venue. The new video during Forty Six & 2 was amazing, after the intro Justin turned around and stared back down into a skeleton-type creature that seemed to be looking back up at him from the floor projection. It was like he was staring into a mirror of death. Very cool. The videos during Rosetta Stoned seemed like they were different as well. Lateralus had the flying red phoenix instead of the newer video from San Antonio. The jams between songs were really great as usual, I remembered hearing a couple of them from the night before and previous Tool shows, however it seems like San Antonio had a jam that I'd never heard before, and Dallas did as well. Hopefully they were sneak peeks of new songs, just as the jams that ended up being parts of Vicarious and Wings/10,000 Days from the 11/16/02 show in Oklahoma City.

Looking forward to the next tour and album. Also looking forward to the Puscifer tour this fall. According to advertisements in the Nokia Maynard will be playing "a bunch in Texas," along with new music (album?) and live video (DVD?)

There is much more to look forward to.
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The light and laser show seemed like they were scaled back, this might be due to the fact that the Nokia is much smaller than the AT&T Center.
They weren't.
Theatre stages are set into a wall, which creates a box around it. In an arena it's much more open around and above the stage, which gives the lights and lasers more more room to stretch out a bit. That could have been what made it seem smaller.
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The light and laser show seemed like they were scaled back, this might be due to the fact that the Nokia is much smaller than the AT&T Center.
They weren't.
Theatre stages are set into a wall, which creates a box around it. In an arena it's much more open around and above the stage, which gives the lights and lasers more more room to stretch out a bit. That could have been what made it seem smaller.
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They weren't.
Theatre stages are set into a wall, which creates a box around it. In an arena it's much more open around and above the stage, which gives the lights and lasers more more room to stretch out a bit. That could have been what made it seem smaller.
You're right. I think my perception of the stage show might have been a bit off due to this and the fact that I was on the balcony and to the side.
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They weren't.
Theatre stages are set into a wall, which creates a box around it. In an arena it's much more open around and above the stage, which gives the lights and lasers more more room to stretch out a bit. That could have been what made it seem smaller.
You're right. I think my perception of the stage show might have been a bit off due to this and the fact that I was on the balcony and to the side.
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8th time for me to see them.

Am i the only one that heard them perform Pink Floyd's 'On the run'. I cant quite place it on the setlist. (maybe at the end of flood and before aenema)
i was pretty sure there was a part in there that sounded VERY VERY SIMILAR!!! i mentioned the same thing to my friend that went.

another thing i may have forgot to mention was the "Welcome Home" part... and after everyone says "Welcome Home" maynard said, "Now take off your clothes."

HA!

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8th time for me to see them.

Am i the only one that heard them perform Pink Floyd's 'On the run'. I cant quite place it on the setlist. (maybe at the end of flood and before aenema)
i was pretty sure there was a part in there that sounded VERY VERY SIMILAR!!! i mentioned the same thing to my friend that went.

another thing i may have forgot to mention was the "Welcome Home" part... and after everyone says "Welcome Home" maynard said, "Now take off your clothes."

HA!

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07-29-2009, 11:06 AM

This was my 19th TOOL concert dating back to 1993 and first show on this mini-tour. It was an excellent show and I only felt bad for Adam with the Vicarious end equipment malfunction. Maynard's ad-lib was hilarious and I, too, hope someone else got a clip of it for us to watch on Youtube. It was classic and will be a remebered moment in TOOL lore for those at the Nokia Center Saturday night. Me and three friends drove from St. Louis for this show and it was well worth the time, effort and money spent. Not to mention the awesome post-show What-A Burger.

I would have loved to have heard what it sounded like in the center of the crowd (we were far right close to the stage section 202 row AA), but from some of the complaints I have read, it probably didn't sound the same in any one row of the place. It sounded fair where we were and I didn't have trouble hearing any parts. Maynard was as into this show as I have ever seen him into anything and I just don't see it as rehearsed or "going through the motions." He loves singing these songs, people, like it or not. He's not just "taking our money." This is true art we're witnessing in a prog-rock environment and there just aren't many bands you can see that will move you in the way that TOOL does, if any. Yes, there were little mess-ups here and there, but overall the Boys were in great form with minimal rehearsal. As for the "85% speed" comment, I can somewhat identify with that, but being a drummer I know there are a TON of subleties in their music that absolutely REQUIRES that these songs not be played too fast. I'd rather see Danny err on the side of caution and get to hear everything than to do what most bands do and rev it up (often too much) in a live environment. I believe it is a testament to Danny's incredible inner meter and the band's ability to stay in his groove. Few bands can play their own shit at record speed, but TOOL does it with insane ease. Flood was awesome!!!!

Folks, I think we heard at least an interlude or two tonight that are snippets of new songs. What I heard was very "Justin" oriented and it sounded very cool. Can't wait to see what they come up with next because spiraling beyond the last three CDs they've done is going to be a challenge at their age. But I'll never doubt them until they prove me wrong. The Tweak Bird drummer was pretty good and did an okay job sparring with Danny, IMO. You could tell he was having the time of his life after the drum soloing getting to play the last half of Lateralus along with the band. It sounded REALLY GOOD with two drummers playing that end part. Danny still pounds, but not quite like he used to. He wisely paces himself so he's not completely spent at the end. He did not play Jambi very hard, but by mid-show he was beating the hell out of the drums and cymbals when necessary. He did some unbelievably quick ad-lib fills in songs that just blew my mind. His hands remain lightning fast despite the ocean incident. I also loved the intermission part where they basically "stood at attention" respecting their audience for 2-2 1/2 minutes. It was classic!! They did not move. Some might consider that an arrogant thing to do, but I thought it was one of the coolest things I have ever seen in hundreds of concerts. I saw them gather on Maynard's riser for intermission a couple of times on the 10K Days tour and loved it, but this was a new twist. Bravo to the band and all the crew for making this a special, memorable night for many. Junior, awesome job as always!! I hope you remain part of their crew until there is no more TOOL.
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This was my 19th TOOL concert dating back to 1993 and first show on this mini-tour. It was an excellent show and I only felt bad for Adam with the Vicarious end equipment malfunction. Maynard's ad-lib was hilarious and I, too, hope someone else got a clip of it for us to watch on Youtube. It was classic and will be a remebered moment in TOOL lore for those at the Nokia Center Saturday night. Me and three friends drove from St. Louis for this show and it was well worth the time, effort and money spent. Not to mention the awesome post-show What-A Burger.

I would have loved to have heard what it sounded like in the center of the crowd (we were far right close to the stage section 202 row AA), but from some of the complaints I have read, it probably didn't sound the same in any one row of the place. It sounded fair where we were and I didn't have trouble hearing any parts. Maynard was as into this show as I have ever seen him into anything and I just don't see it as rehearsed or "going through the motions." He loves singing these songs, people, like it or not. He's not just "taking our money." This is true art we're witnessing in a prog-rock environment and there just aren't many bands you can see that will move you in the way that TOOL does, if any. Yes, there were little mess-ups here and there, but overall the Boys were in great form with minimal rehearsal. As for the "85% speed" comment, I can somewhat identify with that, but being a drummer I know there are a TON of subleties in their music that absolutely REQUIRES that these songs not be played too fast. I'd rather see Danny err on the side of caution and get to hear everything than to do what most bands do and rev it up (often too much) in a live environment. I believe it is a testament to Danny's incredible inner meter and the band's ability to stay in his groove. Few bands can play their own shit at record speed, but TOOL does it with insane ease. Flood was awesome!!!!

Folks, I think we heard at least an interlude or two tonight that are snippets of new songs. What I heard was very "Justin" oriented and it sounded very cool. Can't wait to see what they come up with next because spiraling beyond the last three CDs they've done is going to be a challenge at their age. But I'll never doubt them until they prove me wrong. The Tweak Bird drummer was pretty good and did an okay job sparring with Danny, IMO. You could tell he was having the time of his life after the drum soloing getting to play the last half of Lateralus along with the band. It sounded REALLY GOOD with two drummers playing that end part. Danny still pounds, but not quite like he used to. He wisely paces himself so he's not completely spent at the end. He did not play Jambi very hard, but by mid-show he was beating the hell out of the drums and cymbals when necessary. He did some unbelievably quick ad-lib fills in songs that just blew my mind. His hands remain lightning fast despite the ocean incident. I also loved the intermission part where they basically "stood at attention" respecting their audience for 2-2 1/2 minutes. It was classic!! They did not move. Some might consider that an arrogant thing to do, but I thought it was one of the coolest things I have ever seen in hundreds of concerts. I saw them gather on Maynard's riser for intermission a couple of times on the 10K Days tour and loved it, but this was a new twist. Bravo to the band and all the crew for making this a special, memorable night for many. Junior, awesome job as always!! I hope you remain part of their crew until there is no more TOOL.
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Late..very late review. Show was awesome as reported. The VIP suites made it that much cooler. Until next time.
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Late..very late review. Show was awesome as reported. The VIP suites made it that much cooler. Until next time.
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i need a dallas tour poster! can anyone help or point to the right direction?

thanks a lot!
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i need a dallas tour poster! can anyone help or point to the right direction?

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i need a dallas tour poster! can anyone help or point to the right direction?

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good luck. only 350 were made for the 6,600 concert goers. i know i am keeping mine. i did see one of the signed posters on ebay for $175 bin. probably sold by now.
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i need a dallas tour poster! can anyone help or point to the right direction?

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good luck. only 350 were made for the 6,600 concert goers. i know i am keeping mine. i did see one of the signed posters on ebay for $175 bin. probably sold by now.
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good luck. only 350 were made for the 6,600 concert goers. i know i am keeping mine. i did see one of the signed posters on ebay for $175 bin. probably sold by now.
yeah my friend got one, but i didnt have my cash on me at the time..if anyone else can help or has an extra they wanna sell. please help me out.
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good luck. only 350 were made for the 6,600 concert goers. i know i am keeping mine. i did see one of the signed posters on ebay for $175 bin. probably sold by now.
yeah my friend got one, but i didnt have my cash on me at the time..if anyone else can help or has an extra they wanna sell. please help me out.
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08-04-2009, 08:01 PM

This was my 10th time seeing Tool live, and I must admit, even tho I had a pit ticket, I was a bit disappointed to have the same show from the 10k days minus one or two songs. Pit tickets came out to $100 after all service charges were added, making it this show the most expensive Tool show I have ever attended...

On top of that, I was standing in the right side of the pit in front of justin but a good 8-10 people away from the rail. I had nothing but morons standing around me, and when push came to shove, some people got violent. If you don't like being pushed, then move to another part of the pit thats calm, its that simple....
I ended up getting blind sided and punched in my right eye, creating a nice shiner the next morning. My only guess as to one someone decided to bunch me was because they thought I was pushing and starting shit, when I wasn't... I was one of many being pushed during the start of the show. Luckily I didn't let it ruin my night but I did lose my glasses because of it.

Justin put on a giant foam cowboy hat during Lateralus which I found hilarious and MJK did seem a bit talkative compared to the other shows I have seen.

Here are a few pictures I took with my iPhone

<img src="http://stashbox.org/590692/5408_665762928887_29625992_39739499_7310636_n.jpg" >


<img src="http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs126.snc1/5408_665764665407_29625992_39739516_7757529_n.jpg" >


<img src="http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs146.snc1/5408_665763971797_29625992_39739505_5071881_n.jpg" >


<img src="http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v5204/48/20/29625992/n29625992_39739504_7625489.jpg">


<img src="http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs126.snc1/5408_665763567607_29625992_39739503_3509818_n.jpg" >
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This was my 10th time seeing Tool live, and I must admit, even tho I had a pit ticket, I was a bit disappointed to have the same show from the 10k days minus one or two songs. Pit tickets came out to $100 after all service charges were added, making it this show the most expensive Tool show I have ever attended...

On top of that, I was standing in the right side of the pit in front of justin but a good 8-10 people away from the rail. I had nothing but morons standing around me, and when push came to shove, some people got violent. If you don't like being pushed, then move to another part of the pit thats calm, its that simple....
I ended up getting blind sided and punched in my right eye, creating a nice shiner the next morning. My only guess as to one someone decided to bunch me was because they thought I was pushing and starting shit, when I wasn't... I was one of many being pushed during the start of the show. Luckily I didn't let it ruin my night but I did lose my glasses because of it.

Justin put on a giant foam cowboy hat during Lateralus which I found hilarious and MJK did seem a bit talkative compared to the other shows I have seen.

Here are a few pictures I took with my iPhone

<img src="http://stashbox.org/590692/5408_665762928887_29625992_39739499_7310636_n.jpg" >


<img src="http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs126.snc1/5408_665764665407_29625992_39739516_7757529_n.jpg" >


<img src="http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs146.snc1/5408_665763971797_29625992_39739505_5071881_n.jpg" >


<img src="http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v5204/48/20/29625992/n29625992_39739504_7625489.jpg">


<img src="http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs126.snc1/5408_665763567607_29625992_39739503_3509818_n.jpg" >
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08-05-2009, 02:35 PM

Dallas was the first Tool show, I had attended outside of the state of Louisiana. I had high hopes for the setting being in the Nokia Theatre in Dallas (a city which i had never been.) After the seven hour drive, I was ready for the show and it did not dissapoint. The merch booth had some really interesting shirts and posters this time around, but I couldnt remember if t-shirts were always 40 dollars. TweakBird was moderately decent, but I always think the band opening for Tool has one of the hardest jobs, seeing that most of the people there are waiting for Tool and not to hear them. The setlist was pretty much the same as Baton Rouge and New Orleans were on the last tour, the 46 and 2 visuals still intrigue me every time. Maynards dialouge with the crowd was interesting, seeing he never talked to the crowd in Louisiana. Overrall, the best show from them I have seen. Justin Chancellor never ceases to amaze.
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Dallas was the first Tool show, I had attended outside of the state of Louisiana. I had high hopes for the setting being in the Nokia Theatre in Dallas (a city which i had never been.) After the seven hour drive, I was ready for the show and it did not dissapoint. The merch booth had some really interesting shirts and posters this time around, but I couldnt remember if t-shirts were always 40 dollars. TweakBird was moderately decent, but I always think the band opening for Tool has one of the hardest jobs, seeing that most of the people there are waiting for Tool and not to hear them. The setlist was pretty much the same as Baton Rouge and New Orleans were on the last tour, the 46 and 2 visuals still intrigue me every time. Maynards dialouge with the crowd was interesting, seeing he never talked to the crowd in Louisiana. Overrall, the best show from them I have seen. Justin Chancellor never ceases to amaze.
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08-07-2009, 07:33 AM

Well I guess my perspective is different than everyone else. I have seen Tool 11 times now, and for me Tool shows have gone through about 4 stages.

1990-1993 - Raw and visceral, everyone pretty fucked up on drugs, Maynard screaming his head off (in a good way) but pretty disconnected from everyone and everything, Danny a solid and evolving prog rock drummer plays solid all the time, Adam playing steadfast guitar as always and Paul rocking out as per usual.

1994-1998 - Tool began realizing their music was artwork. Danny pushed his drumming skills extremely far with the help of teachers like Aloke Dutta and the band started doing some truly revolutionary things live that incorporated the fan through covers, rare alternate versions of songs, and very obscure and cool visuals. Danny upped his game once again, Maynard was at his best during this time. Raw and powerful, writhing all over the place, his vocal power was at its strongest and range was still good. When Justin joined he was pretty reserved, but a solid replacement for Paul, and Adam was still the same old Adam.

1999-2002 - Lateralus came out and Tool experimented with new Alex Grey artwork. They eliminated the more obscure visuals, Maynard began facing away from the crowd tucked away on an odd platform but his voice was still pretty solid. Danny came out with his most creative drum work yet and pushed his skills to another level. Adam was the same old Adam and Justin finally came out of his shell writing some truly original bass lines and performing some great work live.

2003-Present - The band evolved in several ways, but mostly their visuals on stage. Basically they started having the funds to do things visually the way things they wanted to all along. They have the money to pay the right people to give a really impressive show visually. They play the same setlist every night, because it's a theatrical performance and they want to "just get it right" every night. Maynard's vocal range is deteriorating, he has no scream to speak of, Danny has gotten off the charts better, Justin is more of a madman than ever and plays fantastic shows, and we once again have the same old Adam.

I guess for me the biggest emotional connection to Tool all along has been Maynard. His voice is unique, unlike any other rock singer and his visceral scream always put me in a state of euphoria. He just doesn't have that anymore so I've lost some of my connection to the band. Yes Adam is the same old Adam, and Justin and Danny have evolved greatly as have the visuals, but Maynard is up there doing the same shit every day and very obviously doesn't seem to care. He doesn't sing the high part of Vicarious anymore (maybe he can't) but it's by far the best part of that song for me. I agree with what others have said, drop the songs down a half or whole step so he can sing the entire thing and not cheapen the performance. Everyone else is up there doing their thing, and Maynard isn't doing his part.

Tool has been my favorite band for nearly 20 years, and I'm simply not feeling them live like I used to. Justin said in an interview with Rolling Stone several months ago that this tour the band would bring back some old songs, rework some things, and play some covers on this tour. Where is all of that? The biggest and most exciting part of the live show is being SURPRISED. I intentionally did NOT read the reviews until I saw this year's show, but I am disappointed I didn't. I wouldn't have paid $250 to a scalper for a pit ticket if I'd known I would get a setlist from 2006.

Really.
Fucking.
Disappointed.

Sorry if I've offended someone because I disagree with your opinion and assessment that this was a mind-blowing Tool performance, but Maynard's general lack of interest has made me feel the same way.

-Chad

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Old 08-07-2009, 07:33 AM   #73
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Well I guess my perspective is different than everyone else. I have seen Tool 11 times now, and for me Tool shows have gone through about 4 stages.

1990-1993 - Raw and visceral, everyone pretty fucked up on drugs, Maynard screaming his head off (in a good way) but pretty disconnected from everyone and everything, Danny a solid and evolving prog rock drummer plays solid all the time, Adam playing steadfast guitar as always and Paul rocking out as per usual.

1994-1998 - Tool began realizing their music was artwork. Danny pushed his drumming skills extremely far with the help of teachers like Aloke Dutta and the band started doing some truly revolutionary things live that incorporated the fan through covers, rare alternate versions of songs, and very obscure and cool visuals. Danny upped his game once again, Maynard was at his best during this time. Raw and powerful, writhing all over the place, his vocal power was at its strongest and range was still good. When Justin joined he was pretty reserved, but a solid replacement for Paul, and Adam was still the same old Adam.

1999-2002 - Lateralus came out and Tool experimented with new Alex Grey artwork. They eliminated the more obscure visuals, Maynard began facing away from the crowd tucked away on an odd platform but his voice was still pretty solid. Danny came out with his most creative drum work yet and pushed his skills to another level. Adam was the same old Adam and Justin finally came out of his shell writing some truly original bass lines and performing some great work live.

2003-Present - The band evolved in several ways, but mostly their visuals on stage. Basically they started having the funds to do things visually the way things they wanted to all along. They have the money to pay the right people to give a really impressive show visually. They play the same setlist every night, because it's a theatrical performance and they want to "just get it right" every night. Maynard's vocal range is deteriorating, he has no scream to speak of, Danny has gotten off the charts better, Justin is more of a madman than ever and plays fantastic shows, and we once again have the same old Adam.

I guess for me the biggest emotional connection to Tool all along has been Maynard. His voice is unique, unlike any other rock singer and his visceral scream always put me in a state of euphoria. He just doesn't have that anymore so I've lost some of my connection to the band. Yes Adam is the same old Adam, and Justin and Danny have evolved greatly as have the visuals, but Maynard is up there doing the same shit every day and very obviously doesn't seem to care. He doesn't sing the high part of Vicarious anymore (maybe he can't) but it's by far the best part of that song for me. I agree with what others have said, drop the songs down a half or whole step so he can sing the entire thing and not cheapen the performance. Everyone else is up there doing their thing, and Maynard isn't doing his part.

Tool has been my favorite band for nearly 20 years, and I'm simply not feeling them live like I used to. Justin said in an interview with Rolling Stone several months ago that this tour the band would bring back some old songs, rework some things, and play some covers on this tour. Where is all of that? The biggest and most exciting part of the live show is being SURPRISED. I intentionally did NOT read the reviews until I saw this year's show, but I am disappointed I didn't. I wouldn't have paid $250 to a scalper for a pit ticket if I'd known I would get a setlist from 2006.

Really.
Fucking.
Disappointed.

Sorry if I've offended someone because I disagree with your opinion and assessment that this was a mind-blowing Tool performance, but Maynard's general lack of interest has made me feel the same way.

-Chad

Last edited by Thirdeye11; 08-07-2009 at 07:38 AM..
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