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05-27-2006, 10:08 AM
Through boredom and a small love affair with math, I thought I'd see just how many years 10,000 days is. I'm ignoring leap years in this, so 10, 000 days turns out to be just over 27 years (each of 365 days).
Specifically, it is 27.39726027397260273972602739726 years. No big deal, but I thought the repeating pattern was interesting. 27 39 72 60. Now it gets weird!
27 - 39 + 72 = 60
I don't know what that means, but it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Anywho, let's continue with the strangeness.
27 + 72 = 99 and 39 + 60 = 99
Similarly,
72 - 60 = 12 and 39 - 27 = 12
This brings two new numbers into the mix. 99 and 12. Let's look at those.
99 - 12 = 87
99 + 12 = 111
Again, no big deal, but using the original numbers we find that...
27 + 60 = 87
39 + 72 = 111
These numbers just love each other. It's like they're circular or something.
Maybe even ... a Perfect Circle ... ?
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Numerical Significance
Through boredom and a small love affair with math, I thought I'd see just how many years 10,000 days is. I'm ignoring leap years in this, so 10, 000 days turns out to be just over 27 years (each of 365 days).
Specifically, it is 27.39726027397260273972602739726 years. No big deal, but I thought the repeating pattern was interesting. 27 39 72 60. Now it gets weird!
27 - 39 + 72 = 60
I don't know what that means, but it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Anywho, let's continue with the strangeness.
27 + 72 = 99 and 39 + 60 = 99
Similarly,
72 - 60 = 12 and 39 - 27 = 12
This brings two new numbers into the mix. 99 and 12. Let's look at those.
99 - 12 = 87
99 + 12 = 111
Again, no big deal, but using the original numbers we find that...
27 + 60 = 87
39 + 72 = 111
These numbers just love each other. It's like they're circular or something.
Maybe even ... a Perfect Circle ... ?
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05-27-2006, 10:35 AM
all that effort and................yea.
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all that effort and................yea.
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Have you included leap years in your calculation?
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05-27-2006, 11:01 AM
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dude, I'm at work (call center) and it's boring. besides, basic math functions don't really require a lot of effort.
but, seriously, thanks for the warm welcome to this site. i just signed up today and you're my first response. thanks, again for YOUR effort.
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all that effort and................yea.
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dude, I'm at work (call center) and it's boring. besides, basic math functions don't really require a lot of effort.
but, seriously, thanks for the warm welcome to this site. i just signed up today and you're my first response. thanks, again for YOUR effort.
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np
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btw, i was giving props for the number work. i just failed to see any relevance.
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btw, i was giving props for the number work. i just failed to see any relevance.
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Nope. Just regular years. I messed around with leap years, but there was nothing special about the results there...or if there is, I'm not seeing it.
I've been watching LOST on DVD. If you're into that show, it has it's own set of significant numbers. 4 8 15 16 23 42. They show up all over the place in the show and the characters lives. I don't know, I think it's kinda cool. Oddly enough, I have never seen the show NUMB3RS. I don't really watch a lot of TV.
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Nope. Just regular years. I messed around with leap years, but there was nothing special about the results there...or if there is, I'm not seeing it.
I've been watching LOST on DVD. If you're into that show, it has it's own set of significant numbers. 4 8 15 16 23 42. They show up all over the place in the show and the characters lives. I don't know, I think it's kinda cool. Oddly enough, I have never seen the show NUMB3RS. I don't really watch a lot of TV.
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Seriously though, that is an extremely interesting relationship that the numbers have with one another. Rather unique I would think. Of course in numberology you can ultimately end up with any with any kind of interconnection or link you can think of right? Or is it that we as humans apply a sense of syncronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be anything but random?
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Seriously though, that is an extremely interesting relationship that the numbers have with one another. Rather unique I would think. Of course in numberology you can ultimately end up with any with any kind of interconnection or link you can think of right? Or is it that we as humans apply a sense of syncronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be anything but random?
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There is a chance it might mean something, Tool has played with numbers in the past after all...
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There is a chance it might mean something, Tool has played with numbers in the past after all...
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Or is it that we as humans apply a sense of syncronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be anything but random?
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Well, actually we as humans apply a sense of synchronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be just random events, it's a proven fact...
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Or is it that we as humans apply a sense of syncronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be anything but random?
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Well, actually we as humans apply a sense of synchronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be just random events, it's a proven fact...
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btw, i was giving props for the number work. i just failed to see any relevance.
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Gotcha. It's true...there is no apparent relevance...and further research might prove just as irrelevant. but I spin wheels nonetheless.
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Gotcha. It's true...there is no apparent relevance...and further research might prove just as irrelevant. but I spin wheels nonetheless.
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Gotcha. It's true...there is no apparent relevance...and further research might prove just as irrelevant. but I spin wheels nonetheless.
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then spin on my friend. thats what this board is for.
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Gotcha. It's true...there is no apparent relevance...and further research might prove just as irrelevant. but I spin wheels nonetheless.
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then spin on my friend. thats what this board is for.
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There is a chance it might mean something, Tool has played with numbers in the past after all...
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Sure. 46 and 2. One of their best, IMO.
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There is a chance it might mean something, Tool has played with numbers in the past after all...
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Sure. 46 and 2. One of their best, IMO.
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cesaro summability
-although i failed to see what relevance that particular segue had to do with mr cesaro and his math.
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cesaro summability
-although i failed to see what relevance that particular segue had to do with mr cesaro and his math.
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That's funny.
(*saws it off*) hahahahahahahahaha
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I dont think Tool went all out mathematically on this album...
They did that on Lateralus... I think there is some significance to the number 11, but thats about all. Tool really went after the feel on this album rather than the complex... Not saying its not complex, but I don't get the impression that they made a conscious effort to make it complex on this album.
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I dont think Tool went all out mathematically on this album...
They did that on Lateralus... I think there is some significance to the number 11, but thats about all. Tool really went after the feel on this album rather than the complex... Not saying its not complex, but I don't get the impression that they made a conscious effort to make it complex on this album.
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05-27-2006, 11:33 AM
just to be fair heres one:
the number 11
put it twice: 1111
add 23 (virginti tres):
turn the calculator upside down.
creepy voice explained.
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Re: Numerical Significance
just to be fair heres one:
the number 11
put it twice: 1111
add 23 (virginti tres):
turn the calculator upside down.
creepy voice explained.
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cesaro summability
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Me neither. That's some tough math. One really has to know what they're doing to be able to apply that stuff. But, it's also a Tool song, so ... daddy likey.
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cesaro summability
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Me neither. That's some tough math. One really has to know what they're doing to be able to apply that stuff. But, it's also a Tool song, so ... daddy likey.
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just to be fair heres one:
the number 11
put it twice: 1111
add 23 (virginti tres):
turn the calculator upside down.
creepy voice explained.
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Sweet! That reminds me of goofing around in grade school. Here's a couple more upside down calculator favorites from back in the day.
5318008 - (*hint* - I suck 'em)
and
55378008 - (*hint* - insert random mother insult here)
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just to be fair heres one:
the number 11
put it twice: 1111
add 23 (virginti tres):
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creepy voice explained.
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Sweet! That reminds me of goofing around in grade school. Here's a couple more upside down calculator favorites from back in the day.
5318008 - (*hint* - I suck 'em)
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55378008 - (*hint* - insert random mother insult here)
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Sweet! That reminds me of goofing around in grade school. Here's a couple more upside down calculator favorites from back in the day.
5318008 - (*hint* - I suck 'em)
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lol, i remember those. good times.
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Sweet! That reminds me of goofing around in grade school. Here's a couple more upside down calculator favorites from back in the day.
5318008 - (*hint* - I suck 'em)
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lol, i remember those. good times.
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Sweet! That reminds me of goofing around in grade school. Here's a couple more upside down calculator favorites from back in the day.
5318008 - (*hint* - I suck 'em)
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Ah yes. This thread is now worth something.
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Sweet! That reminds me of goofing around in grade school. Here's a couple more upside down calculator favorites from back in the day.
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Ah yes. This thread is now worth something.
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05-27-2006, 02:45 PM
overthinking usually just leads you around in circles
i hope you find another way
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overthinking usually just leads you around in circles
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Ah yes. This thread is now worth something.
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it went from equasion analysis to boob jokes
cool
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Ah yes. This thread is now worth something.
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it went from equasion analysis to boob jokes
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as does every worthwhile endeavor
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it went from equasion analysis to boob jokes
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as does every worthwhile endeavor
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good point.
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Uh........thanks. I guess I'll think about what you've said...but not too much.
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Uh........thanks. I guess I'll think about what you've said...but not too much.
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Well, actually we as humans apply a sense of synchronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be just random events, it's a proven fact...
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VERY true. I'll digress as I extrapolate more useless number crunching during another boring day at the office on a holiday weekend.
I'll take the common sums of the pattern numbers (99 and 12) and combine them with their difference and sum (87 and 111) to create a grand total of 309.
Now I'll subtract that 309 from the number of days in a standard earth year (365) to arrive at 56.
5 + 6 = 11, which apparently is a significant number for this album.
There, I did it again! I'm looking for certain numbers and I find them. I forget what that's called in arguements...when the premise assumes the conclusion before it's deduced. I'll find out later. For now I'll just call it Circular B.S.
Sorry. I just sucked 30 seconds of your life away. But don't worry. You'll get over it.
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Well, actually we as humans apply a sense of synchronicity to the seemingly random events all around us that in fact turn out to be just random events, it's a proven fact...
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VERY true. I'll digress as I extrapolate more useless number crunching during another boring day at the office on a holiday weekend.
I'll take the common sums of the pattern numbers (99 and 12) and combine them with their difference and sum (87 and 111) to create a grand total of 309.
Now I'll subtract that 309 from the number of days in a standard earth year (365) to arrive at 56.
5 + 6 = 11, which apparently is a significant number for this album.
There, I did it again! I'm looking for certain numbers and I find them. I forget what that's called in arguements...when the premise assumes the conclusion before it's deduced. I'll find out later. For now I'll just call it Circular B.S.
Sorry. I just sucked 30 seconds of your life away. But don't worry. You'll get over it.
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Number 11= The Yee-Haw Factor.
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Number 11= The Yee-Haw Factor.
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"I messed around with leap years, but there was nothing special about the results there...or if there is, I'm not seeing it."
So you changed the actual length of the year to make this equation "special"?Unfortunately, an orbit around the sun for our planet doesnt take 365 days, it takes 365.25 days.
Once again, it goes to show that *especially with numbers*, if you are looking for connections in the world, you will find them.
I <3 people.
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"I messed around with leap years, but there was nothing special about the results there...or if there is, I'm not seeing it."
So you changed the actual length of the year to make this equation "special"?Unfortunately, an orbit around the sun for our planet doesnt take 365 days, it takes 365.25 days.
Once again, it goes to show that *especially with numbers*, if you are looking for connections in the world, you will find them.
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there is none!
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06-01-2006, 10:08 AM
What's really too bad is that through all this, no one has commented on my clever Perfect Circle reference from the initial post. I guess the numbers were more intriguing than my wit. Story of my life. :)
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What's really too bad is that through all this, no one has commented on my clever Perfect Circle reference from the initial post. I guess the numbers were more intriguing than my wit. Story of my life. :)
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What's really too bad is that through all this, no one has commented on my clever Perfect Circle reference from the initial post. I guess the numbers were more intriguing than my wit. Story of my life. :)
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i did catch it. i just let it go.
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What's really too bad is that through all this, no one has commented on my clever Perfect Circle reference from the initial post. I guess the numbers were more intriguing than my wit. Story of my life. :)
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i did catch it. i just let it go.
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