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Helium filled studio, Feature film...
http://www.stv.tv/out/showArticle.js...articleId=3261
Tool - A Stitch in Time
Article by Dave Kerr
The year is 2002, the place is Tucson, Arizona, and The Skinny is observing Tomahawk’s unenviable task of warming up a Tool audience. Clad in cop uniforms, like a menacing bastardisation of The Village People, the house lights go out as frontman Mike Patton rather alarmingly volleys a pig’s head into the crowd – a lovely gesture – and this, like their music, doesn’t go down very well.
Fast forward to 2006 and an apparent musical tide change appears to have altered the expectations of your average Tool fan, with Isis reportedly going down a treat and Mastodon lined up for a clutch of support slots on the LA quartet’s forthcoming European dates. As Danny Carey tells us on the phone from the road in Ohio; “We like to mix it up a little, we’ve been trying to get a band that isn’t so identified in the metal crowd, even trying to get people with more regular pop sensibilities to open up some legs of the tour. It’s nice to look out and see more females and thinking people rather than just the crazy metal kids. We’ve been identified with the whole metal thing for so long but I think our music is now good enough to reach a broader audience.”
Ending up in the Metal category by default, following the dissolution of the alternative scene they initially emerged from, Tool have had their work cut out in climbing out of such a loose pigeonhole. Releasing an album once every five years hasn’t helped matters though, has it?
“There’s always that worry. Even when (new album ’10,000 Days’) came out, we were all a little stressed, thinking ‘are people still going to remember us?’ It was very fortunate that it was immediately so well received.”
You do have a strong fanbase…
“You’d think maybe they would go away or something… the way things change so fast in the music business. Fans have been really loyal, I think we can almost do anything and they’re going to be there for us. We can take comfort in that for now, as long as we stick to our standards and don’t do something creepy like sell out.”
So you have no intentions of recording a two minute pop song any time soon?
“We just never really think about it when we’re writing. It would be just fine if all of a sudden we came up with some pop songs, I’d knock out a whole album full of them, it would be kind of fun. I’d enjoy that as much as anything as long as they were the right emotional vehicles to express our art with. They just snowball into these big monstrous long things; I’m not hoping they can get any more concise.”
An album of Bananarama covers may not be forthcoming, but Carey acknowledges their lack of commercial viability, not that this seems like a major concern…
“It’s pretty tough to get the radio people to play a 16 minute song. It’s hard enough for us; our shortest songs are six and a half to seven minutes long. We’ve been fortunate enough that they’ve played those on the radio,” Carey hesitates for a second, before continuing without a trace of ego in his voice, “but the quality’s there, so I suppose they have to.”
Beyond the fact that Tool deal in sprawling epics, what else contributes to the lengthy incubation period for each record? By now it’s understood that innovative recording techniques are a given, but filling the studio with helium?
“We tried to get more audio transients, especially out of the cymbals. We figured that if the air is thinner then high end frequencies will travel quicker. We try to take advantage of any little thing that might work to aid the recording process and add some clarity or some sort of distinction in the end. We just had the luxury of being able to have a budget where we could experiment rather than get in and try to knock it out as quickly as possible just to save a buck.”
Like your previous albums, on the surface, ’10,000 Days’ feels extremely conceptual, is that always a premeditated condition before you record?
“When we’re writing the songs and putting them together it’s not really so preconceived but they’re all great vehicles to deal with right now and I think a lot of people feel it’s great to have these songs, a bit longer and more involved, almost movie soundtrack-like.”
Soundtrack-like indeed, and with a flair for creating the visuals to accompany the music in house, has movie making ever surfaced on the agenda?
“We’ve had pretty intense discussions about it. I think if any band would be capable of doing a full length feature that’s worth sitting through, we could pull it off. Especially with the visual arts training that Adam (Jones – guitarist) has, he worked on movies for many years (see 'T-2', 'Jurassic Park', 'Edward Scissorhands') and that’s definitely helped out doing our videos. We’re pursuing it; I think there are movie companies who would have the faith in us to do it if we came up with the right script and approach. I’m hoping if not on the next album maybe the one after.”
Four albums into their career and the Tool manifesto runs strong; a band continuing to garner global support and leaving their own mark on the hegemonic stalemate of popular music. Carey considers the preservation of their spiritual ethics as an important factor in keeping this untainted aesthetic alive. “We all have our own individual spirituality; it’s such a subjective thing but that keeps us going. I think a spiritual view harnesses the chemistry between the four of us. Whatever we put in will come back and will be rewarded as long as we keep it sacred. If we can keep that going, there’s no end in sight.”
Heralded as one of the world’s finest percussionists; pairing a love of jazz with a natural flair for mathematics, Tool’s stuttered, unpredictable time signatures were born early in Carey’s childhood years. “I was raised thinking in those terms a lot; I was always good at geometry, it’s a subject I never really had to study and ever since I can remember my dad had jazz music, he had Charlie parker or the Big Band and so all this stuff began to play in my head. All these different influences ended up rubbing off on my playing, it just feels natural.”
From any given musical era, who would be your ultimate partner for a freak out jam be?
“Miles Davis. He had such a heavy impact and kept reinventing himself all through the years. It was always exciting to see what he would throw down next. I always liked that there was some sort of animal in him yet he could play so well and say so much. I think to be around a guy who is a genius like that would have a profound impact.”
It's not exactly a strictly musical diet of Miles, maths and metronomes for Carey though; “there was a tough decision before Tool had made it, before I had any success in the music world and there were some universities asking me to play basketball.”
Despite an ability to remain largely off the celebrity radar – an admirable rarity for a member of a multi-million selling outfit – the basketball league Carey presently takes part in has seen him thrust onto the court with the most unlikely of sparring partners. ”It’s sort of like a PR vehicle for the NBA, hoping to probably pick up new fans by getting them to watch rap guys or movie stars playing. It’s a lot of fun and run really professionally; they have good officials who keep statistics and have the shot clock and everything going. It’s a little more organised, it’s kind of fun to play games where I feel almost like I’m back in school again.”
Have you witnessed many hissy fits on the court?
“Some people have a little temper as you would imagine. Michael Rapaport ('True Romance', 'Hitch') played on my team for a couple of years and everything you’d see him do in his career has more of a comedy kind of vibe almost, but then you see these guys getting all serious over a game; getting in scraps with other actors, picking fights with Ice Cube or Snoop Dogg. I love watching them go at it, it’s surreal. It’s also cool that they feel so comfortable and into the game that they just forget their personas out on the court, you can see the real guy in there.”
As they prepare for play by their own rules and on their own court, Tool’s upcoming appearance at the SECC promises a fully fleshed out version of events, as Carey assures; “we’ve beefed the stage up quite a bit, the video and the lighting should come through a little more clear, a little more precise. When we’re afforded that kind of space we can make it as extravagant as we want.”
With the focus firmly on the stage show, it seems that the tossing around of animal limbs will be kept to a minimum, but Carey’s on guard for anything...
“In Tennessee some kind of redneck guy skinned a rattle snake and left the shedding on the front of the stage for us. We were like, “what the **** is this, man?”
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Helium filled studio, Feature film...
http://www.stv.tv/out/showArticle.js...articleId=3261
Tool - A Stitch in Time
Article by Dave Kerr
The year is 2002, the place is Tucson, Arizona, and The Skinny is observing Tomahawk’s unenviable task of warming up a Tool audience. Clad in cop uniforms, like a menacing bastardisation of The Village People, the house lights go out as frontman Mike Patton rather alarmingly volleys a pig’s head into the crowd – a lovely gesture – and this, like their music, doesn’t go down very well.
Fast forward to 2006 and an apparent musical tide change appears to have altered the expectations of your average Tool fan, with Isis reportedly going down a treat and Mastodon lined up for a clutch of support slots on the LA quartet’s forthcoming European dates. As Danny Carey tells us on the phone from the road in Ohio; “We like to mix it up a little, we’ve been trying to get a band that isn’t so identified in the metal crowd, even trying to get people with more regular pop sensibilities to open up some legs of the tour. It’s nice to look out and see more females and thinking people rather than just the crazy metal kids. We’ve been identified with the whole metal thing for so long but I think our music is now good enough to reach a broader audience.”
Ending up in the Metal category by default, following the dissolution of the alternative scene they initially emerged from, Tool have had their work cut out in climbing out of such a loose pigeonhole. Releasing an album once every five years hasn’t helped matters though, has it?
“There’s always that worry. Even when (new album ’10,000 Days’) came out, we were all a little stressed, thinking ‘are people still going to remember us?’ It was very fortunate that it was immediately so well received.”
You do have a strong fanbase…
“You’d think maybe they would go away or something… the way things change so fast in the music business. Fans have been really loyal, I think we can almost do anything and they’re going to be there for us. We can take comfort in that for now, as long as we stick to our standards and don’t do something creepy like sell out.”
So you have no intentions of recording a two minute pop song any time soon?
“We just never really think about it when we’re writing. It would be just fine if all of a sudden we came up with some pop songs, I’d knock out a whole album full of them, it would be kind of fun. I’d enjoy that as much as anything as long as they were the right emotional vehicles to express our art with. They just snowball into these big monstrous long things; I’m not hoping they can get any more concise.”
An album of Bananarama covers may not be forthcoming, but Carey acknowledges their lack of commercial viability, not that this seems like a major concern…
“It’s pretty tough to get the radio people to play a 16 minute song. It’s hard enough for us; our shortest songs are six and a half to seven minutes long. We’ve been fortunate enough that they’ve played those on the radio,” Carey hesitates for a second, before continuing without a trace of ego in his voice, “but the quality’s there, so I suppose they have to.”
Beyond the fact that Tool deal in sprawling epics, what else contributes to the lengthy incubation period for each record? By now it’s understood that innovative recording techniques are a given, but filling the studio with helium?
“We tried to get more audio transients, especially out of the cymbals. We figured that if the air is thinner then high end frequencies will travel quicker. We try to take advantage of any little thing that might work to aid the recording process and add some clarity or some sort of distinction in the end. We just had the luxury of being able to have a budget where we could experiment rather than get in and try to knock it out as quickly as possible just to save a buck.”
Like your previous albums, on the surface, ’10,000 Days’ feels extremely conceptual, is that always a premeditated condition before you record?
“When we’re writing the songs and putting them together it’s not really so preconceived but they’re all great vehicles to deal with right now and I think a lot of people feel it’s great to have these songs, a bit longer and more involved, almost movie soundtrack-like.”
Soundtrack-like indeed, and with a flair for creating the visuals to accompany the music in house, has movie making ever surfaced on the agenda?
“We’ve had pretty intense discussions about it. I think if any band would be capable of doing a full length feature that’s worth sitting through, we could pull it off. Especially with the visual arts training that Adam (Jones – guitarist) has, he worked on movies for many years (see 'T-2', 'Jurassic Park', 'Edward Scissorhands') and that’s definitely helped out doing our videos. We’re pursuing it; I think there are movie companies who would have the faith in us to do it if we came up with the right script and approach. I’m hoping if not on the next album maybe the one after.”
Four albums into their career and the Tool manifesto runs strong; a band continuing to garner global support and leaving their own mark on the hegemonic stalemate of popular music. Carey considers the preservation of their spiritual ethics as an important factor in keeping this untainted aesthetic alive. “We all have our own individual spirituality; it’s such a subjective thing but that keeps us going. I think a spiritual view harnesses the chemistry between the four of us. Whatever we put in will come back and will be rewarded as long as we keep it sacred. If we can keep that going, there’s no end in sight.”
Heralded as one of the world’s finest percussionists; pairing a love of jazz with a natural flair for mathematics, Tool’s stuttered, unpredictable time signatures were born early in Carey’s childhood years. “I was raised thinking in those terms a lot; I was always good at geometry, it’s a subject I never really had to study and ever since I can remember my dad had jazz music, he had Charlie parker or the Big Band and so all this stuff began to play in my head. All these different influences ended up rubbing off on my playing, it just feels natural.”
From any given musical era, who would be your ultimate partner for a freak out jam be?
“Miles Davis. He had such a heavy impact and kept reinventing himself all through the years. It was always exciting to see what he would throw down next. I always liked that there was some sort of animal in him yet he could play so well and say so much. I think to be around a guy who is a genius like that would have a profound impact.”
It's not exactly a strictly musical diet of Miles, maths and metronomes for Carey though; “there was a tough decision before Tool had made it, before I had any success in the music world and there were some universities asking me to play basketball.”
Despite an ability to remain largely off the celebrity radar – an admirable rarity for a member of a multi-million selling outfit – the basketball league Carey presently takes part in has seen him thrust onto the court with the most unlikely of sparring partners. ”It’s sort of like a PR vehicle for the NBA, hoping to probably pick up new fans by getting them to watch rap guys or movie stars playing. It’s a lot of fun and run really professionally; they have good officials who keep statistics and have the shot clock and everything going. It’s a little more organised, it’s kind of fun to play games where I feel almost like I’m back in school again.”
Have you witnessed many hissy fits on the court?
“Some people have a little temper as you would imagine. Michael Rapaport ('True Romance', 'Hitch') played on my team for a couple of years and everything you’d see him do in his career has more of a comedy kind of vibe almost, but then you see these guys getting all serious over a game; getting in scraps with other actors, picking fights with Ice Cube or Snoop Dogg. I love watching them go at it, it’s surreal. It’s also cool that they feel so comfortable and into the game that they just forget their personas out on the court, you can see the real guy in there.”
As they prepare for play by their own rules and on their own court, Tool’s upcoming appearance at the SECC promises a fully fleshed out version of events, as Carey assures; “we’ve beefed the stage up quite a bit, the video and the lighting should come through a little more clear, a little more precise. When we’re afforded that kind of space we can make it as extravagant as we want.”
With the focus firmly on the stage show, it seems that the tossing around of animal limbs will be kept to a minimum, but Carey’s on guard for anything...
“In Tennessee some kind of redneck guy skinned a rattle snake and left the shedding on the front of the stage for us. We were like, “what the **** is this, man?”
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They filled a studio with helium to catch the high frequency transients and then compressed the shit out of the tunes so that no transient frequencies stand out at all? That makes absolutely no sense.
Thanks for posting that though, Tool interviews are always interesting reads.
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They filled a studio with helium to catch the high frequency transients and then compressed the shit out of the tunes so that no transient frequencies stand out at all? That makes absolutely no sense.
Thanks for posting that though, Tool interviews are always interesting reads.
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thanks. It would be so awesome if they did do a movie, as long as it was done right. That would be amazing. also
"open up some legs of the tour."
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thanks. It would be so awesome if they did do a movie, as long as it was done right. That would be amazing. also
"open up some legs of the tour."
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They filled a studio with helium to catch the high frequency transients and then compressed the shit out of the tunes so that no transient frequencies stand out at all? That makes absolutely no sense.
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Yeah I know. Maybee they used the Helium for Maynards voice at the intro to The Pot. Ha.
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They filled a studio with helium to catch the high frequency transients and then compressed the shit out of the tunes so that no transient frequencies stand out at all? That makes absolutely no sense.
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“We’ve had pretty intense discussions about it. I think if any band would be capable of doing a full length feature that’s worth sitting through, we could pull it off. Especially with the visual arts training that Adam (Jones – guitarist) has, he worked on movies for many years (see 'T-2', 'Jurassic Park', 'Edward Scissorhands') and that’s definitely helped out doing our videos. We’re pursuing it; I think there are movie companies who would have the faith in us to do it if we came up with the right script and approach. I’m hoping if not on the next album maybe the one after.”
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Not so much about movie news, as I could care less but more about how he expands on the timelines of new albums. This more than any album, and mainly because of age has been looked upon as being their last. Good to know Danny still has it in him.
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“We’ve had pretty intense discussions about it. I think if any band would be capable of doing a full length feature that’s worth sitting through, we could pull it off. Especially with the visual arts training that Adam (Jones – guitarist) has, he worked on movies for many years (see 'T-2', 'Jurassic Park', 'Edward Scissorhands') and that’s definitely helped out doing our videos. We’re pursuing it; I think there are movie companies who would have the faith in us to do it if we came up with the right script and approach. I’m hoping if not on the next album maybe the one after.”
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Not so much about movie news, as I could care less but more about how he expands on the timelines of new albums. This more than any album, and mainly because of age has been looked upon as being their last. Good to know Danny still has it in him.
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11-20-2006, 01:47 PM
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Yeah I know. Maybee they used the Helium for Maynards voice at the intro to The Pot. Ha.
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I immidiately thought that too.
Is that possible?
Because that Intro is still a riddle to me.
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Yeah I know. Maybee they used the Helium for Maynards voice at the intro to The Pot. Ha.
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I immidiately thought that too.
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I immidiately thought that too.
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Because that Intro is still a riddle to me.
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It would be possible but Helium makes your voice super squeaky and the intro is no-where near that. I think he is trying to sound like a choir boy.
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I immidiately thought that too.
Is that possible?
Because that Intro is still a riddle to me.
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Hell yeah. That'd be cool as all hell if they actually made a feature film. I can just imagine all the (inherently trippy) imagery in it if they ever successfully made one. However, in regards to the helium thing, maybe it disoriented them to such an extent that they inadvertently compressed the shit out of 10K Days. However, seeing as how none of us were there for the actual session for said album, I suppose we shall never know.
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Hell yeah. That'd be cool as all hell if they actually made a feature film. I can just imagine all the (inherently trippy) imagery in it if they ever successfully made one. However, in regards to the helium thing, maybe it disoriented them to such an extent that they inadvertently compressed the shit out of 10K Days. However, seeing as how none of us were there for the actual session for said album, I suppose we shall never know.
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They filled a studio with helium to catch the high frequency transients and then compressed the shit out of the tunes so that no transient frequencies stand out at all? That makes absolutely no sense.
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Just thinking back to what I learned in physics, Sound travels faster through denser material than thinner, so wouldnt it make sense to fill the studio with something heavier than air?
Or maybee its a bunch of bullshit and DC was fucking with the reporter, like putting Helium in your race car tyres to make it lighter?
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They filled a studio with helium to catch the high frequency transients and then compressed the shit out of the tunes so that no transient frequencies stand out at all? That makes absolutely no sense.
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Just thinking back to what I learned in physics, Sound travels faster through denser material than thinner, so wouldnt it make sense to fill the studio with something heavier than air?
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With increasing frequency the sound wave compression approaches a perfect adiabatic because there is less and less time for heat to escape in the compression process. For this reason, sound waves in air, particularly ultrasound, approach the theoretical relation given above very closely, as frequency rises.
The molecular composition of the gas contributes both as the mass (M) of the molecules, and their heat capacities, and so both have an influence on speed of sound. In general, at the same molecular mass, monatomic gases have slightly higher sound speeds (over 9% higher) due to the fact that they have a higher gamma (5/3 = 1.6) than diatomics do (7/5 = 1.4). Thus, at the same molecular mass, the sound speed of a monatomic gas goes up by a factor of
(this equation is an image) = 1.09
This gives the 9% difference, and would be a typical ratio for sound speeds at room temperature in helium vs. deuterium, each with a molecular weight of 4. Sound travels faster in helium than deuterium because adiabatic compression heats helium more, since the helium molecules can store heat energy from compression only in translation, but not rotation. Thus helium molecules (monatomic molecules) travel faster in a soundwave and transmit sound faster. (Sound generally travels at about 70 % of the mean molecular velocity in gases).
Note that in this example we have assumed that temperature is low enough that heat capacities are not influenced by molecular vibration (see heat capacity). However, vibrational modes simply cause gammas which decrease toward 1, since vibration modes in a polyatomic gas gives the gas additional ways to store heat which do not affect temperature, and thus do not affect molecular velocity and sound velocity. Thus, the effect of higher temperatures and vibrational heat capacity acts to increase the difference between sound speed in monatomic vs. polyatomic molecules, with the speed remaining greater in monatomics.
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With increasing frequency the sound wave compression approaches a perfect adiabatic because there is less and less time for heat to escape in the compression process. For this reason, sound waves in air, particularly ultrasound, approach the theoretical relation given above very closely, as frequency rises.
The molecular composition of the gas contributes both as the mass (M) of the molecules, and their heat capacities, and so both have an influence on speed of sound. In general, at the same molecular mass, monatomic gases have slightly higher sound speeds (over 9% higher) due to the fact that they have a higher gamma (5/3 = 1.6) than diatomics do (7/5 = 1.4). Thus, at the same molecular mass, the sound speed of a monatomic gas goes up by a factor of
(this equation is an image) = 1.09
This gives the 9% difference, and would be a typical ratio for sound speeds at room temperature in helium vs. deuterium, each with a molecular weight of 4. Sound travels faster in helium than deuterium because adiabatic compression heats helium more, since the helium molecules can store heat energy from compression only in translation, but not rotation. Thus helium molecules (monatomic molecules) travel faster in a soundwave and transmit sound faster. (Sound generally travels at about 70 % of the mean molecular velocity in gases).
Note that in this example we have assumed that temperature is low enough that heat capacities are not influenced by molecular vibration (see heat capacity). However, vibrational modes simply cause gammas which decrease toward 1, since vibration modes in a polyatomic gas gives the gas additional ways to store heat which do not affect temperature, and thus do not affect molecular velocity and sound velocity. Thus, the effect of higher temperatures and vibrational heat capacity acts to increase the difference between sound speed in monatomic vs. polyatomic molecules, with the speed remaining greater in monatomics.
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COol. Now tell us what it means. You can't, can you? :P
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I'd like to see a movie. Though, at the same time, listening to Tool is like reading a book. I come up with my own imagery.
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I'd like to see a movie. Though, at the same time, listening to Tool is like reading a book. I come up with my own imagery.
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Thanks. So it does travel faster.
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11-21-2006, 11:40 AM
Well I don't exactly see the point of sound traveling faster...I mean what would that actually do as far as recording quality? My first post pointed to the fact that they apparently did this strange/elaborate technique to get this different sound (and I don't even know how different it would be) then proceeded to give it the generic rock band production treatment. It boggles the mind. If it were produced with the style or technique of MFSL or something, then I'd say "oh okay, they would do something that ridiculous." But for this? I dunno, seems like he's making it up or they just did it and it didn't do much.
Also, how would one breathe in a room full of helium?
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Well I don't exactly see the point of sound traveling faster...I mean what would that actually do as far as recording quality? My first post pointed to the fact that they apparently did this strange/elaborate technique to get this different sound (and I don't even know how different it would be) then proceeded to give it the generic rock band production treatment. It boggles the mind. If it were produced with the style or technique of MFSL or something, then I'd say "oh okay, they would do something that ridiculous." But for this? I dunno, seems like he's making it up or they just did it and it didn't do much.
Also, how would one breathe in a room full of helium?
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11-21-2006, 12:53 PM
i guess by filling the room with helium and the increase of speed of sound traveling through the room would make the delay and phase problems that using huge/far ambient mic's, like the ones used to record danny's drum kit and cymbals, produce. I read they recorded the drums on a studio that had a damn big room that is usually used to record big orchestras for movie soundtracks. And they used those condenser mic's with big arms sitted far away from the drum to get all the fullness of danny's playing. I remember barresi saying they liked that room because sound traveled pretty fast and there were few delay and phase probelms.
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i guess by filling the room with helium and the increase of speed of sound traveling through the room would make the delay and phase problems that using huge/far ambient mic's, like the ones used to record danny's drum kit and cymbals, produce. I read they recorded the drums on a studio that had a damn big room that is usually used to record big orchestras for movie soundtracks. And they used those condenser mic's with big arms sitted far away from the drum to get all the fullness of danny's playing. I remember barresi saying they liked that room because sound traveled pretty fast and there were few delay and phase probelms.
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11-23-2006, 02:04 AM
He had a lot to say...
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/1321251
Handyman: Danny Carey, Tool's drummer, talks to DiS
Too much to copy/paste, but...
With Tool being lauded for their incendiary, imagistic shows, why has there never been a live DVD or even CD?
Well, we really planned on making it during last year but we just ran out of time. At the end of the Lateralus tour we made a big effort, and even video-recorded the last ten shows and audio-recorded the last fifteen, so we have all this material. There is a chance, if we have time, that we are going to start going through it and editing for a live DVD, so I'm hoping that we will have one out.
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Re: DC Interview
He had a lot to say...
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/1321251
Handyman: Danny Carey, Tool's drummer, talks to DiS
Too much to copy/paste, but...
With Tool being lauded for their incendiary, imagistic shows, why has there never been a live DVD or even CD?
Well, we really planned on making it during last year but we just ran out of time. At the end of the Lateralus tour we made a big effort, and even video-recorded the last ten shows and audio-recorded the last fifteen, so we have all this material. There is a chance, if we have time, that we are going to start going through it and editing for a live DVD, so I'm hoping that we will have one out.
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11-23-2006, 10:08 AM
Yeah I think someone posted that in Socialize or something....got me really excited, I KNEW that they had a bunch of recorded shows floating around.
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Yeah I think someone posted that in Socialize or something....got me really excited, I KNEW that they had a bunch of recorded shows floating around.
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maybe they'll come out with a decoy movie. at least danny is looking ahead to at least two more albums, thank god!
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maybe they'll come out with a decoy movie. at least danny is looking ahead to at least two more albums, thank god!
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11-23-2006, 06:35 PM
the mention of two more albums is great news. very great news. a possibility of a dvd is equally as good. thanks for the articles
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the mention of two more albums is great news. very great news. a possibility of a dvd is equally as good. thanks for the articles
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11-26-2006, 07:28 PM
wow, that was probably the best tool interview i have EVER read.
My eyes were glued to the screen the whole way through!
Interesting to hear about Adam and Maynards habits in the studio and also the dvd footage which we might one day see.
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wow, that was probably the best tool interview i have EVER read.
My eyes were glued to the screen the whole way through!
Interesting to hear about Adam and Maynards habits in the studio and also the dvd footage which we might one day see.
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12-01-2006, 12:25 PM
NICE INTERVIEW
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NICE INTERVIEW
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Regarding the helium:
Danny is certainly joking... How could you possibly breathe in a room full of helium?
Secondly,
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Just thinking back to what I learned in physics, Sound travels faster through denser material than thinner, so wouldnt it make sense to fill the studio with something heavier than air?
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Thanks. So it does travel faster.
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The reason sound travels faster through denser materials is because the molecules are packed closer together, and can transmit the wave faster.
And what the wikipedia article was saying is not really what you were asking about; it was explaining why sound travels faster through monatomic gases than polyatomic ones.
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Re: DC Interview
Regarding the helium:
Danny is certainly joking... How could you possibly breathe in a room full of helium?
Secondly,
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Originally Posted by jonboy
Just thinking back to what I learned in physics, Sound travels faster through denser material than thinner, so wouldnt it make sense to fill the studio with something heavier than air?
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Thanks. So it does travel faster.
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The reason sound travels faster through denser materials is because the molecules are packed closer together, and can transmit the wave faster.
And what the wikipedia article was saying is not really what you were asking about; it was explaining why sound travels faster through monatomic gases than polyatomic ones. |
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