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04-25-2006, 02:10 AM

Right lets try and work this thing out properly. In this thread please post one point each on what leads you to beleve this album is a hoax. No arguing or conversation, just one point each. Im also doing a real points thread. This way we can see which argument holds most weight.
Old 04-25-2006, 02:10 AM   #1
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Right lets try and work this thing out properly. In this thread please post one point each on what leads you to beleve this album is a hoax. No arguing or conversation, just one point each. Im also doing a real points thread. This way we can see which argument holds most weight.
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04-25-2006, 02:13 AM

Because it isn't.
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Because it isn't.
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04-25-2006, 02:15 AM

why? fuck you, i have plenty of evidence for the hoax, so do heaps of people on the board, why would we post it? to convince you suckers who enjoy this piece of crap album? there is a reason tool is doing this, why spoil the fun and the message?
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why? fuck you, i have plenty of evidence for the hoax, so do heaps of people on the board, why would we post it? to convince you suckers who enjoy this piece of crap album? there is a reason tool is doing this, why spoil the fun and the message?
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04-25-2006, 02:18 AM

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why? fuck you, i have plenty of evidence for the hoax, so do heaps of people on the board, why would we post it? to convince you suckers who enjoy this piece of crap album? there is a reason tool is doing this, why spoil the fun and the message?
Tut tut, i said no arguing.
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Re: Hoax points

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why? fuck you, i have plenty of evidence for the hoax, so do heaps of people on the board, why would we post it? to convince you suckers who enjoy this piece of crap album? there is a reason tool is doing this, why spoil the fun and the message?
Tut tut, i said no arguing.
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04-25-2006, 02:48 AM

HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...I like the guy who said he find people amusing who can`t seperate shit from mousse au chocolate....just shaking my head and laughing...if this album is a "piece of crap" then anything they`ve released is crap...IDIOTZ!
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HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...I like the guy who said he find people amusing who can`t seperate shit from mousse au chocolate....just shaking my head and laughing...if this album is a "piece of crap" then anything they`ve released is crap...IDIOTZ!
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04-25-2006, 02:54 AM

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Because it isn't.
Classic!

I have no evidence that suggests that this album is a 'hoax'.

I also have no evidence to suggest that man didn't land on the moon.

Seriously, why is this shit still going?

Go watch The X-Files or something if you are still entertaining the slight possibility of this whole album being a hoax...

If it is a hoax, I will gladly donate 2 of my nuts to whoever needs one/them (Yes, I may have more than 2...)
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Re: Hoax points

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Originally Posted by Nebel
Because it isn't.
Classic!

I have no evidence that suggests that this album is a 'hoax'.

I also have no evidence to suggest that man didn't land on the moon.

Seriously, why is this shit still going?

Go watch The X-Files or something if you are still entertaining the slight possibility of this whole album being a hoax...

If it is a hoax, I will gladly donate 2 of my nuts to whoever needs one/them (Yes, I may have more than 2...)
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04-25-2006, 03:27 AM

People who are unhappy with the album are seemingly just looking for and picking holes in comments made my band members and such over the last few months. There is a 70 odd minute allbum absolutely 100% living up to the standard of those which they have produced recently. Any contradictions in dates and comments made by the band themselves or staff are a thousand times more likely to be human error, than a ridiculous hoax. Sure they may throw an april fool your way that they've died in a fucking bus crash, but I think they have better things to do than suprise everyone with an elaborate hoax such as the one that is being suggested.
The whole thing is pissing me off to be honest.
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Re: Hoax points

People who are unhappy with the album are seemingly just looking for and picking holes in comments made my band members and such over the last few months. There is a 70 odd minute allbum absolutely 100% living up to the standard of those which they have produced recently. Any contradictions in dates and comments made by the band themselves or staff are a thousand times more likely to be human error, than a ridiculous hoax. Sure they may throw an april fool your way that they've died in a fucking bus crash, but I think they have better things to do than suprise everyone with an elaborate hoax such as the one that is being suggested.
The whole thing is pissing me off to be honest.
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04-25-2006, 03:36 AM

I am amused by the fact that the .m4a album leak is encoded at 48 Khz (48 thousand samples per second). I have no idea how that would happen because CDs are encoded at 44 Khz and Itunes for example doesn't seem to give any options as to the sample rate of a CD rip. Basically, whoever leaked the album did not use Itunes to encode.

The weird point is that 48 Khz is the sample rate of DVD audio. Basically, anyone ripping an .m4a file at 48 Khz did not get it from a standard audio CD.
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Re: Hoax points

I am amused by the fact that the .m4a album leak is encoded at 48 Khz (48 thousand samples per second). I have no idea how that would happen because CDs are encoded at 44 Khz and Itunes for example doesn't seem to give any options as to the sample rate of a CD rip. Basically, whoever leaked the album did not use Itunes to encode.

The weird point is that 48 Khz is the sample rate of DVD audio. Basically, anyone ripping an .m4a file at 48 Khz did not get it from a standard audio CD.
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04-25-2006, 03:40 AM

i follow my heart. and feeling. always. this band has always, always released fresh new and groundbreaking music. has never repeated itself. always had albums that flew, as a whole story, as a unique piece of music.
for the first time i felf nothing. the music is so overrecycled. they repeat a lot of shit from their previous albums. the cover art is recycled. the production is strange. the music does not flow. there aint anything big, special or beautiful on this album.
i dont belive it is a decoy. i would love it to be. feel somewhere inside that it must be.
cause if it aint, i am truly truly dissapointed.
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Re: Hoax points

i follow my heart. and feeling. always. this band has always, always released fresh new and groundbreaking music. has never repeated itself. always had albums that flew, as a whole story, as a unique piece of music.
for the first time i felf nothing. the music is so overrecycled. they repeat a lot of shit from their previous albums. the cover art is recycled. the production is strange. the music does not flow. there aint anything big, special or beautiful on this album.
i dont belive it is a decoy. i would love it to be. feel somewhere inside that it must be.
cause if it aint, i am truly truly dissapointed.
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04-25-2006, 03:59 AM

Fact: all hoax talk is bullshit and a waste of time (and hard drive space).
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Fact: all hoax talk is bullshit and a waste of time (and hard drive space).
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04-25-2006, 04:10 AM

If the album coming out on May 2nd is the bands final obligation to Volcano Records, I do think it is conceivable that Tool has recorded a 2nd album and will release it sometime in the very near future independently from a label. I have a feeling that they want to do something that will change the course of the entire music industry as it is known today.

BTW - I do like 10,000 Days and by no means do I think the album coming on May 2nd is a hoax. It is in fact a Tool album.
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Re: Hoax points

If the album coming out on May 2nd is the bands final obligation to Volcano Records, I do think it is conceivable that Tool has recorded a 2nd album and will release it sometime in the very near future independently from a label. I have a feeling that they want to do something that will change the course of the entire music industry as it is known today.

BTW - I do like 10,000 Days and by no means do I think the album coming on May 2nd is a hoax. It is in fact a Tool album.
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04-25-2006, 04:12 AM

TOOL is a hoax.
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TOOL is a hoax.
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04-25-2006, 04:13 AM

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This is not their final Volcano II album. They need to make 1 more.
Damn - I shit the bed!
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This is not their final Volcano II album. They need to make 1 more.
Damn - I shit the bed!
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04-25-2006, 04:13 AM

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TOOL is a hoax.
I'm confused. Please list reasons.
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TOOL is a hoax.
I'm confused. Please list reasons.
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04-25-2006, 04:18 AM

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TOOL is a hoax.
You're a hoax.
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TOOL is a hoax.
You're a hoax.
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04-25-2006, 05:17 AM

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You're a hoax.
I know, I'm just a product of your imagination.

I was just being sarcastic. The hoax thing is just fucking hilarious to me.

Salud!
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You're a hoax.
I know, I'm just a product of your imagination.

I was just being sarcastic. The hoax thing is just fucking hilarious to me.

Salud!
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04-25-2006, 05:18 AM

maynard has to shit the bed.
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maynard has to shit the bed.
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04-25-2006, 05:22 AM

The album's distinct lack of Toolgasms is what makes it a hoax in spirit. It is probably a real release, but made with minimal effort with something else being released within this year.
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The album's distinct lack of Toolgasms is what makes it a hoax in spirit. It is probably a real release, but made with minimal effort with something else being released within this year.
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04-25-2006, 05:31 AM

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The album's distinct lack of Toolgasms is what makes it a hoax in spirit. It is probably a real release, but made with minimal effort with something else being released within this year.
Thye're going to release an air-borne Ebola virus to wipe out 90% of humanity.
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The album's distinct lack of Toolgasms is what makes it a hoax in spirit. It is probably a real release, but made with minimal effort with something else being released within this year.
Thye're going to release an air-borne Ebola virus to wipe out 90% of humanity.
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04-25-2006, 05:35 AM

10,000 Days is pure shit.
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10,000 Days is pure shit.
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04-25-2006, 05:54 AM

real shit ??
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real shit ??
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04-25-2006, 06:17 AM

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10,000 Days is pure brilliance.
Fixed.
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10,000 Days is pure brilliance.
Fixed.
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04-25-2006, 06:23 AM

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Thye're going to release an air-borne Ebola virus to wipe out 90% of humanity.
*token lol
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Thye're going to release an air-borne Ebola virus to wipe out 90% of humanity.
*token lol
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04-25-2006, 06:40 AM

How many threads do we need that try and prove 10,000 Days is a decoy? Its not a decoy and there won't be another album. We just need to accept that 10,000 Days is the new album.
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How many threads do we need that try and prove 10,000 Days is a decoy? Its not a decoy and there won't be another album. We just need to accept that 10,000 Days is the new album.
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04-25-2006, 06:58 AM

Yeah, its getting kinda scatty. I'm sure a lot of them will be merged or deleted now the hoax theory is out the window.
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Yeah, its getting kinda scatty. I'm sure a lot of them will be merged or deleted now the hoax theory is out the window.
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