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04-18-2006, 09:17 PM

Seriously, apon further listening, this shit is boring and I find myself always wanting to fast forward. Good game, Tool, now bring on the real shit.
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decoy CD

Seriously, apon further listening, this shit is boring and I find myself always wanting to fast forward. Good game, Tool, now bring on the real shit.
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04-18-2006, 09:19 PM

Maybe Tool just kinda sucks now?

I haven't listened to it yet, but people keep saying that it sounds lame... kind of like forced radio-ness or something. It'd be cool if Tool is all "Fooooled you" like from Spaceballs where Dark Helmet pretends to be princess vespa's dad and tricks her into leaving yogurts lair...

I love Spaceballs.
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Re: It's a decoy.

Maybe Tool just kinda sucks now?

I haven't listened to it yet, but people keep saying that it sounds lame... kind of like forced radio-ness or something. It'd be cool if Tool is all "Fooooled you" like from Spaceballs where Dark Helmet pretends to be princess vespa's dad and tricks her into leaving yogurts lair...

I love Spaceballs.
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04-18-2006, 09:20 PM

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Maybe Tool just kinda sucks now?

I haven't listened to it yet, but people keep saying that it sounds lame... kind of like forced radio-ness or something. It'd be cool if Tool is all "Fooooled you" like from Spaceballs where Dark Helmet pretends to be princess vespa's dad and tricks her into leaving yogurts lair...

I love Spaceballs.
I havent listened yet either...

BUUUUUT

if its anything like Spaceballs I think Ill like it

*VIRGIN ALARM*
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Re: It's a decoy.

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Maybe Tool just kinda sucks now?

I haven't listened to it yet, but people keep saying that it sounds lame... kind of like forced radio-ness or something. It'd be cool if Tool is all "Fooooled you" like from Spaceballs where Dark Helmet pretends to be princess vespa's dad and tricks her into leaving yogurts lair...

I love Spaceballs.
I havent listened yet either...

BUUUUUT

if its anything like Spaceballs I think Ill like it

*VIRGIN ALARM*
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04-18-2006, 09:20 PM

LOL... Wooot a bonus disc!!!

I have seen this going on at another board...

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Re: It's a decoy.

LOL... Wooot a bonus disc!!!

I have seen this going on at another board...

Sheep
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04-18-2006, 09:22 PM

I think it's awesome. If you're into Tool you should appreciate it. Different strokes for different folks I guess. It kicks ass.. suer you can say it sounds like previous work but at the same time its different. completly different. maybe you should let it grow on you, acctully learn the songs
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Re: It's a decoy.

I think it's awesome. If you're into Tool you should appreciate it. Different strokes for different folks I guess. It kicks ass.. suer you can say it sounds like previous work but at the same time its different. completly different. maybe you should let it grow on you, acctully learn the songs
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04-18-2006, 09:22 PM

there is just no killing the idea of a decoy album is there? even when we have the damn thing leaked... i bet you still won't believe it even with it in your hands
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Re: It's a decoy.

there is just no killing the idea of a decoy album is there? even when we have the damn thing leaked... i bet you still won't believe it even with it in your hands
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04-18-2006, 09:22 PM

honestly,

you have to turn off all the lights, put on some good quality headphones, eliminate all possible distractions, and just let go.

It's paralazing and epic, it truely is.

/attentionspan
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Re: It's a decoy.

honestly,

you have to turn off all the lights, put on some good quality headphones, eliminate all possible distractions, and just let go.

It's paralazing and epic, it truely is.

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04-18-2006, 09:23 PM

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I havent listened yet either...

BUUUUUT

if its anything like Spaceballs I think Ill like it

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Re: It's a decoy.

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I havent listened yet either...

BUUUUUT

if its anything like Spaceballs I think Ill like it

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04-18-2006, 09:24 PM

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honestly,

you have to turn off all the lights, put on some good quality headphones, eliminate all possible distractions, and just let go.

It's paralazing and epic, it truely is.

/attentionspan
Right on brother
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Re: It's a decoy.

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honestly,

you have to turn off all the lights, put on some good quality headphones, eliminate all possible distractions, and just let go.

It's paralazing and epic, it truely is.

/attentionspan
Right on brother
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04-18-2006, 09:24 PM

Tool + Mel Brooks = ?
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Re: It's a decoy.

Tool + Mel Brooks = ?
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04-18-2006, 09:27 PM

Yes, this is a decoy just to keep people from figuring out that Maynard is really Tori Amos.

Expect the REAL Tool album to be released on 6/6/6 where Maynard will sing in all his feminine glory with Tool.
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Re: It's a decoy.

Yes, this is a decoy just to keep people from figuring out that Maynard is really Tori Amos.

Expect the REAL Tool album to be released on 6/6/6 where Maynard will sing in all his feminine glory with Tool.
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04-18-2006, 09:28 PM

Come on guys, quit fooling yourselves, this shit is fake.
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Re: It's a decoy.

Come on guys, quit fooling yourselves, this shit is fake.
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04-18-2006, 09:30 PM

Yo, Oftenlost: http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=41668


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Yo, Oftenlost: http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=41668


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04-18-2006, 09:31 PM

Some people's states of mind around here are..."interesting."

If you're so in love with Tool that you'd go into a state of denial when you hear 10,000 days and don't like it, maybe you had better take a break from them and listen to another band for a while, ya?
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Re: It's a decoy.

Some people's states of mind around here are..."interesting."

If you're so in love with Tool that you'd go into a state of denial when you hear 10,000 days and don't like it, maybe you had better take a break from them and listen to another band for a while, ya?
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04-18-2006, 09:33 PM

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Some people's states of mind around here are..."interesting."

If you're so in love with Tool that you'd go into a state of denial when you hear 10,000 days and don't like it, maybe you had better take a break from them and listen to another band for a while, ya?
Pshh, stop making sense. Thats so last year.
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Some people's states of mind around here are..."interesting."

If you're so in love with Tool that you'd go into a state of denial when you hear 10,000 days and don't like it, maybe you had better take a break from them and listen to another band for a while, ya?
Pshh, stop making sense. Thats so last year.
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04-18-2006, 09:35 PM

I think tool lyrics from former albums have driven people mad with the "deep thinking"
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Re: It's a decoy.

I think tool lyrics from former albums have driven people mad with the "deep thinking"
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04-19-2006, 12:22 AM

i just want to point out that since tool started giving us information about the new album late last year they haven't said one thing that wasn't true, while you all think everything is fake, absolutely NOTHING has been proven to be false
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Re: It's a decoy.

i just want to point out that since tool started giving us information about the new album late last year they haven't said one thing that wasn't true, while you all think everything is fake, absolutely NOTHING has been proven to be false
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It's REAL!
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04-19-2006, 12:55 AM

come on!! this "album" is nothing but a leftover buffet of post Undertow, post Aenima, post Lateralus (read: Vicarious) material. Some of it great (i.e. Jambi, clearly an Aenima track) and well, some of it not so great.

Just listen to each album's influence on each track, and you'll see it too. As for what's to come, I don't know, but it's more than this *oops* oh...., SO surprising leak.

Great b-sides:
Vicarious
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Re: It's a decoy.

come on!! this "album" is nothing but a leftover buffet of post Undertow, post Aenima, post Lateralus (read: Vicarious) material. Some of it great (i.e. Jambi, clearly an Aenima track) and well, some of it not so great.

Just listen to each album's influence on each track, and you'll see it too. As for what's to come, I don't know, but it's more than this *oops* oh...., SO surprising leak.

Great b-sides:
Vicarious
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www.myspace.com/zeitgeistfm

check it out. intension-backwards.
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www.myspace.com/zeitgeistfm

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04-19-2006, 05:54 AM

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Some people's states of mind around here are..."interesting."

If you're so in love with Tool that you'd go into a state of denial when you hear 10,000 days and don't like it, maybe you had better take a break from them and listen to another band for a while, ya?
I recommend Shpongle
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Re: It's a decoy.

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Some people's states of mind around here are..."interesting."

If you're so in love with Tool that you'd go into a state of denial when you hear 10,000 days and don't like it, maybe you had better take a break from them and listen to another band for a while, ya?
I recommend Shpongle
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Seriously, apon further listening, this shit is boring and I find myself always wanting to fast forward. Good game, Tool, now bring on the real shit.
Oh, because you don't like it it MUST be a decoy. What did you want? Lateralus or Aenima 2? Imagine how pissed people would be..
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Seriously, apon further listening, this shit is boring and I find myself always wanting to fast forward. Good game, Tool, now bring on the real shit.
Oh, because you don't like it it MUST be a decoy. What did you want? Lateralus or Aenima 2? Imagine how pissed people would be..
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04-19-2006, 06:18 AM

i seriously doubt maynard would mock his mother by putting such a beautiful song about her on some fake album.
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i seriously doubt maynard would mock his mother by putting such a beautiful song about her on some fake album.
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i seriously doubt maynard would mock his mother by putting such a beautiful song about her on some fake album.
good point. at first i thought this was a decoy, but upon reading the lyrics...i don't think they would joke about this stuff.
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i seriously doubt maynard would mock his mother by putting such a beautiful song about her on some fake album.
good point. at first i thought this was a decoy, but upon reading the lyrics...i don't think they would joke about this stuff.
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04-19-2006, 06:19 AM

He sorta named Judith after her though... I will probably be shouted down for saying that *shrugs*
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He sorta named Judith after her though... I will probably be shouted down for saying that *shrugs*
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04-19-2006, 06:22 AM

anyone who still thinks this is a decoy is a fool (get it?). Every track here is epic, listen to it, learn it....it's some great shit. seriously.
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anyone who still thinks this is a decoy is a fool (get it?). Every track here is epic, listen to it, learn it....it's some great shit. seriously.
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i seriously doubt maynard would mock his mother by putting such a beautiful song about her on some fake album.
exactly. the song is anything but a mockery...
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i seriously doubt maynard would mock his mother by putting such a beautiful song about her on some fake album.
exactly. the song is anything but a mockery...
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04-19-2006, 07:08 AM

i honestly think this CD is a decoy.....no proof, other then the music itself......
Tool said in a round about way that they were concidering creating a fake to prohibit the real CD leaking.......now aside from that, the music seems like old tracks that didnt make the cut for undertow, and aenema and even lateralus......plus some of maynards vocals sound disturbingly like APC tracks......Maynard is known for his heart stopping tones as he sings the songs, this CD has nothing but high pitched plain tones or low pitched mono tones throughout....the music in alot of songs seems like digitally remastered tracks mostly from the undertow days that were left on the cutting room floor. the music seems very bland/plain.....and thats not tool

is this alot of effort to combat the leaks? yes it is. Is it possible to release a decoy to the distributors? yes it is. Is it possible that Tool has a private company distributing the CD? yes it is.

you die hard Tool fans know what i mean when i say this doesnt sound like Tool.

If this is the real CD, then, i will have to learn to take it for what its worth.
But i find it extremely hard to beleve that after all the years of progression that this band has made since 1990, that in 2006, they would offer up a CD with no passion what so ever.......

i am not posting this to discuss the music being good or bad, but rather a discussion of your opinion on this being a decoy or not.......

thanks for reading
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decoy CD

i honestly think this CD is a decoy.....no proof, other then the music itself......
Tool said in a round about way that they were concidering creating a fake to prohibit the real CD leaking.......now aside from that, the music seems like old tracks that didnt make the cut for undertow, and aenema and even lateralus......plus some of maynards vocals sound disturbingly like APC tracks......Maynard is known for his heart stopping tones as he sings the songs, this CD has nothing but high pitched plain tones or low pitched mono tones throughout....the music in alot of songs seems like digitally remastered tracks mostly from the undertow days that were left on the cutting room floor. the music seems very bland/plain.....and thats not tool

is this alot of effort to combat the leaks? yes it is. Is it possible to release a decoy to the distributors? yes it is. Is it possible that Tool has a private company distributing the CD? yes it is.

you die hard Tool fans know what i mean when i say this doesnt sound like Tool.

If this is the real CD, then, i will have to learn to take it for what its worth.
But i find it extremely hard to beleve that after all the years of progression that this band has made since 1990, that in 2006, they would offer up a CD with no passion what so ever.......

i am not posting this to discuss the music being good or bad, but rather a discussion of your opinion on this being a decoy or not.......

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Probably real, but a decoy would be quite funny.
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Probably real, but a decoy would be quite funny.
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04-19-2006, 07:15 AM

Of course it's real, it's quite clearly a step from Lateralus...
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Of course it's real, it's quite clearly a step from Lateralus...
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04-19-2006, 07:16 AM

Just because its not what you expected/wanted to hear doesnt mean its fake.
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Just because its not what you expected/wanted to hear doesnt mean its fake.
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04-19-2006, 07:16 AM

if this is a decoy, i can't even imagine how amazing the real one would be.

don't think it is though, i don't think they would write a song about Maynard's mom and call it a fake, that's kinda disrespecting maynard and his mom
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if this is a decoy, i can't even imagine how amazing the real one would be.

don't think it is though, i don't think they would write a song about Maynard's mom and call it a fake, that's kinda disrespecting maynard and his mom
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04-19-2006, 07:17 AM

It doesnt sound "toolish" because you havent heard it before. Get used to it. Its a fantastic album.
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It doesnt sound "toolish" because you havent heard it before. Get used to it. Its a fantastic album.
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04-19-2006, 07:20 AM

I think it would be fucking amazing if this was a decoy. Imagine that. 2 new tool records in one hit!! HAHAHA!!!
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I think it would be fucking amazing if this was a decoy. Imagine that. 2 new tool records in one hit!! HAHAHA!!!
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04-19-2006, 07:21 AM

And they only release 1 album per half decade, i don't think they'd have time to release 2 albums in succession...
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And they only release 1 album per half decade, i don't think they'd have time to release 2 albums in succession...
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04-19-2006, 07:24 AM

They're tool, so how can they not sound like tool?
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They're tool, so how can they not sound like tool?
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04-19-2006, 07:25 AM

if it were a decoy, i think it would relabeled as a B-Side disk, not a decoy. i still think it would be pretty neat once we go out and get 10000 days in the store, that theres 2 disks, one is the b sides, and the other is the cd.
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if it were a decoy, i think it would relabeled as a B-Side disk, not a decoy. i still think it would be pretty neat once we go out and get 10000 days in the store, that theres 2 disks, one is the b sides, and the other is the cd.
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04-19-2006, 07:25 AM

It seems too...huge. I mean, production wise, I'm hearing more and more little nuances every time I press play. 'Vicarious' is definitely on a different level than any of the other songs; it's definitely the most like Tool. Maybe they released it simply to pull old fans back in before they smacked them in the face with all the other songs.

Not saying that's a bad thing.

A decoy album is way too X-Files, I think.
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It seems too...huge. I mean, production wise, I'm hearing more and more little nuances every time I press play. 'Vicarious' is definitely on a different level than any of the other songs; it's definitely the most like Tool. Maybe they released it simply to pull old fans back in before they smacked them in the face with all the other songs.

Not saying that's a bad thing.

A decoy album is way too X-Files, I think.
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