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The interesting thing to note about this is, were someone to see an extradimensional/holy/whatever spirit of some sort. Well, they could either see it as a religious experience or as an alien encounter, depending on their background, because such a being would be beyond the viewer's comprehension, and they would have nothing to go on but their own predispositions.
I guess what I'm trying to say is goddamn you Rolo, you've started a topic that has actually made me contribute positively.
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Well, I've always said that what was thought of as Gods in the ancient times were actually aliens. There's so many references to them from as far back as the days of cave men. It's very possibly they were known to be the gods from the heavens and their "chariots of fire".
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The interesting thing to note about this is, were someone to see an extradimensional/holy/whatever spirit of some sort. Well, they could either see it as a religious experience or as an alien encounter, depending on their background, because such a being would be beyond the viewer's comprehension, and they would have nothing to go on but their own predispositions.
I guess what I'm trying to say is goddamn you Rolo, you've started a topic that has actually made me contribute positively.
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Well, I've always said that what was thought of as Gods in the ancient times were actually aliens. There's so many references to them from as far back as the days of cave men. It's very possibly they were known to be the gods from the heavens and their "chariots of fire".
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ahhh man take that damn avatar off!!! If you recall correctly, that was Mr. Stynx avatar. I always knew they was something about you. DAMN YOU!!
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ahhh man take that damn avatar off!!! If you recall correctly, that was Mr. Stynx avatar. I always knew they was something about you. DAMN YOU!!
I WANT THE CHICKENS BACK....the chiiickkkeeennnnsssss.....The dead one I mean.
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Do i have to see it as the earth is some sort of greenhouse were we (all organisms incl. plants, animals, bacteria, etc) have been "planted" to grow and multipy, so that "they" could watch and examine our evolution?
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Hah, they had forgotten about us, remember? You said that yourself, if i read that correcty. We have to deal with Mr. megalomania ourself.
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Hah, they had forgotten about us, remember? You said that yourself, if i read that correcty. We have to deal with Mr. megalomania ourself.
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We are the universe attempting to understand itself...
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We are the universe attempting to understand itself...
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Personally I see it kind of the other way around.
I'm not shy in saying that I believe this grand spectacle we call reality was created by something (even if it was just random chance, it was created by chance alone), my only question is whether the creator knows, cares, etc. that the creation exists. So I'm more tempted to believe that alien sightings are just sightings of whatever beings, should they exist, exist on a plane of reality such that one of them could intentionally or accidentally bring about the creation of one such as ours.
I have the laziest theological philosophy known to man.
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Personally I see it kind of the other way around.
I'm not shy in saying that I believe this grand spectacle we call reality was created by something (even if it was just random chance, it was created by chance alone), my only question is whether the creator knows, cares, etc. that the creation exists. So I'm more tempted to believe that alien sightings are just sightings of whatever beings, should they exist, exist on a plane of reality such that one of them could intentionally or accidentally bring about the creation of one such as ours.
I have the laziest theological philosophy known to man.
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Yup, we're a bunch of fucking silly sea monkeys.....right in two just made 134% more sense
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Yup, we're a bunch of fucking silly sea monkeys.....right in two just made 134% more sense
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So basically we're all just mistakes of chance.......and I cried when my momma told me that too.
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Its simple...
The universe exists...we are a part of that universe. We are the only part of the universe(that we are aware of) that seeks to understand it.
Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself...
It's deep, I know...think about it...
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Its simple...
The universe exists...we are a part of that universe. We are the only part of the universe(that we are aware of) that seeks to understand it.
Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself...
It's deep, I know...think about it...
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Thank Rolo, you're no better than the Dr that laughed at me either.....or was that my dad <shrug>
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Thank Rolo, you're no better than the Dr that laughed at me either.....or was that my dad <shrug>
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Its simple...
The universe exists...we are a part of that universe. We are the only part of the universe(that we are aware of) that seeks to understand it.
Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself...
It's deep, I know...think about it...
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I stepped on some ants yesterday....does that help?
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Its simple...
The universe exists...we are a part of that universe. We are the only part of the universe(that we are aware of) that seeks to understand it.
Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself...
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And we can't say we're mistakes of chance anymore than we can say we were created by a specific being, at least not with any real accuracy.
The truth is, we simply do not know. All we can do is continue to get answers that lead to more questions in an effort to better understand our surroundings.
Oh, and kill each other over faith-based geusses and belittle all those that don't agree with us in the process.
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And we can't say we're mistakes of chance anymore than we can say we were created by a specific being, at least not with any real accuracy.
The truth is, we simply do not know. All we can do is continue to get answers that lead to more questions in an effort to better understand our surroundings.
Oh, and kill each other over faith-based geusses and belittle all those that don't agree with us in the process.
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Every little bit helps!
What did you learn and/or gain an understanding of after this occurence?
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Every little bit helps!
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Every little bit helps!
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That my son loves to smack 'em with his plastic hammer
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That my son loves to smack 'em with his plastic hammer
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And why does he love to do so?
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And why does he love to do so?
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Give him some SIAFU as a pet. lol
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Who knows, he's 4
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No, they are ants...
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I think we try and put too many details into it all.
1. Our creation is beyond our comprehension. Our laws are based on cause and effect. We can't understand something coming from nothing. Science says randomness, big bang. Religion says supreme being. I say, where did randomness and the supreme being come from? What existed before them and what created that? So on and so on.
2. Sure, there may be other life forms and all logic points to almost certainty of it. That's why I stated the (that we are aware of). With that being said, any other intelligent life in addition to us is a part of the same aspect of the universe trying to understand itself. The universe contains two basic types of "things". Conscious and unconscious. Planets, rocks, light, gases, particles, etc. Then you have humans (and any other possible intelligent life) that make up the whole that is the universe. Therefore, we are a piece of the portion of the universe that attempts to understand it. Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself. This isn't something to agree or disagree with, this is accepted by science and what we know as a species. It's only another answer that leads to more questions as we attempt to understand our existence.
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I think we try and put too many details into it all.
1. Our creation is beyond our comprehension. Our laws are based on cause and effect. We can't understand something coming from nothing. Science says randomness, big bang. Religion says supreme being. I say, where did randomness and the supreme being come from? What existed before them and what created that? So on and so on.
2. Sure, there may be other life forms and all logic points to almost certainty of it. That's why I stated the (that we are aware of). With that being said, any other intelligent life in addition to us is a part of the same aspect of the universe trying to understand itself. The universe contains two basic types of "things". Conscious and unconscious. Planets, rocks, light, gases, particles, etc. Then you have humans (and any other possible intelligent life) that make up the whole that is the universe. Therefore, we are a piece of the portion of the universe that attempts to understand it. Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself. This isn't something to agree or disagree with, this is accepted by science and what we know as a species. It's only another answer that leads to more questions as we attempt to understand our existence.
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Precisely!
Thats why its just stupidity to say that one believes for certain that it was a white guy with a beard, some freak with 72 virgins, or some random act of nothingness. Much less decide to kill all others that oppose our chosen "belief".
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Precisely!
Thats why its just stupidity to say that one believes for certain that it was a white guy with a beard, some freak with 72 virgins, or some random act of nothingness. Much less decide to kill all others that oppose our chosen "belief".
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I_E and i have been discussing our existence on another level, a while back. In this theory our solarsystem resembles the structure of a molecule. With the sun as the nucleus with it's planets floating around it like little electrons. Makes our world look even smaller.
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I_E and i have been discussing our existence on another level, a while back. In this theory our solarsystem resembles the structure of a molecule. With the sun as the nucleus with it's planets floating around it like little electrons. Makes our world look even smaller.
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If you consider the universe to be infinite and multidimensional, we have to look at theories such as this.
Solar systems are atoms. Galaxies are molecules, and so on.
Its very possible that we are a single atom in a molecule in a blood cell of a larger human and so on and so on.
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If you consider the universe to be infinite and multidimensional, we have to look at theories such as this.
Solar systems are atoms. Galaxies are molecules, and so on.
Its very possible that we are a single atom in a molecule in a blood cell of a larger human and so on and so on.
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Precisely!
Thats why its just stupidity to say that one believes for certain that it was a white guy with a beard, some freak with 72 virgins, or some random act of nothingness. Much less decide to kill all others that oppose our chosen "belief".
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Precisely!
Thats why its just stupidity to say that one believes for certain that it was a white guy with a beard, some freak with 72 virgins, or some random act of nothingness. Much less decide to kill all others that oppose our chosen "belief".
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very true... the only law of the universe that is relevant is love... not a certain number of beliefs or guidelines for people to follow... and anyone who believes they are better because they follow one of these sets, is pretentious and only fooling themselves...
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Just one tenet of my belief system. Basically it breaks down like this, in my own mind:
1. Something started the ball rolling to begin with, and by the ball I mean our existance.
2. Whatever started it rolling is the thing that we can call our Creator.
3. There are many that say that our existance came into being by sheer random chance working itself out.
4. If 3 is true, then our creator is probability.
Ya know. But then again there are a few other possibilities, like our being created by a being outside our comprehension, who may or may not have known they had created us, and who may or may not know that now, and should they know it, may or may not care.
Like I said, laziest philosophy ever.
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Just one tenet of my belief system. Basically it breaks down like this, in my own mind:
1. Something started the ball rolling to begin with, and by the ball I mean our existance.
2. Whatever started it rolling is the thing that we can call our Creator.
3. There are many that say that our existance came into being by sheer random chance working itself out.
4. If 3 is true, then our creator is probability.
Ya know. But then again there are a few other possibilities, like our being created by a being outside our comprehension, who may or may not have known they had created us, and who may or may not know that now, and should they know it, may or may not care.
Like I said, laziest philosophy ever.
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03-28-2008, 09:49 AM
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Inner, you've got it all wrong. Your conception was the accident. Your birth could have easily been prevented.
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Now that's just downright cruel
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Re: Extraterrestrial religion metaphor
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Inner, you've got it all wrong. Your conception was the accident. Your birth could have easily been prevented.
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Now that's just downright cruel
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03-28-2008, 09:54 AM
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1. Our creation is beyond our comprehension. Our laws are based on cause and effect. We can't understand something coming from nothing. Science says randomness, big bang. Religion says supreme being. I say, where did randomness and the supreme being come from? What existed before them and what created that? So on and so on.
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2. Sure, there may be other life forms and all logic points to almost certainty of it. That's why I stated the (that we are aware of). With that being said, any other intelligent life in addition to us is a part of the same aspect of the universe trying to understand itself. The universe contains two basic types of "things". Conscious and unconscious. Planets, rocks, light, gases, particles, etc. Then you have humans (and any other possible intelligent life) that make up the whole that is the universe. Therefore, we are a piece of the portion of the universe that attempts to understand it. Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself. This isn't something to agree or disagree with, this is accepted by science and what we know as a species. It's only another answer that leads to more questions as we attempt to understand our existence.
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Who's to say planets, rocks, light, gases, etc are unconsciouss? Years ago, nobody believed that plants had a consciousness and it was later proven that they do, even though primitive in our perspective. What if all matter consists of consciousness, we simply aren't aware of how to gauge it or realize it. Hell, theories of relativity are changing and being modified every year as we learn new things.
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Re: Extraterrestrial religion metaphor
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1. Our creation is beyond our comprehension. Our laws are based on cause and effect. We can't understand something coming from nothing. Science says randomness, big bang. Religion says supreme being. I say, where did randomness and the supreme being come from? What existed before them and what created that? So on and so on.
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The Tiki gods...well, duh
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Originally Posted by gjamison27
2. Sure, there may be other life forms and all logic points to almost certainty of it. That's why I stated the (that we are aware of). With that being said, any other intelligent life in addition to us is a part of the same aspect of the universe trying to understand itself. The universe contains two basic types of "things". Conscious and unconscious. Planets, rocks, light, gases, particles, etc. Then you have humans (and any other possible intelligent life) that make up the whole that is the universe. Therefore, we are a piece of the portion of the universe that attempts to understand it. Therefore, we are the universe trying to understand itself. This isn't something to agree or disagree with, this is accepted by science and what we know as a species. It's only another answer that leads to more questions as we attempt to understand our existence.
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Who's to say planets, rocks, light, gases, etc are unconsciouss? Years ago, nobody believed that plants had a consciousness and it was later proven that they do, even though primitive in our perspective. What if all matter consists of consciousness, we simply aren't aware of how to gauge it or realize it. Hell, theories of relativity are changing and being modified every year as we learn new things.
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03-28-2008, 09:56 AM
Your dad should have pulled out and shot you all over your moms tits.
Your mom should have swallowed.
You should have died in the kleenex.
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Re: Extraterrestrial religion metaphor
Your dad should have pulled out and shot you all over your moms tits.
Your mom should have swallowed.
You should have died in the kleenex.
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03-28-2008, 09:57 AM
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very true... the only law of the universe that is relevant is love... not a certain number of beliefs or guidelines for people to follow... and anyone who believes they are better because they follow one of these sets, is pretentious and only fooling themselves...
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I disagree, who's to say that even if other species do exist outside of our proven knowledge that they are even aware of what love and hate is? A large population of animals even on our planet aren't aware of such feelings.
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very true... the only law of the universe that is relevant is love... not a certain number of beliefs or guidelines for people to follow... and anyone who believes they are better because they follow one of these sets, is pretentious and only fooling themselves...
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I disagree, who's to say that even if other species do exist outside of our proven knowledge that they are even aware of what love and hate is? A large population of animals even on our planet aren't aware of such feelings.
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03-28-2008, 09:57 AM
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Your dad should have pulled out and shot you all over your moms tits.
Your mom should have swallowed.
You should have died in the kleenex.
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I'll pretend you didn't just say that...
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Your dad should have pulled out and shot you all over your moms tits.
Your mom should have swallowed.
You should have died in the kleenex.
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I'll pretend you didn't just say that...
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03-28-2008, 10:03 AM
Your mother swallows kleenex?
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Your mother swallows kleenex?
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03-28-2008, 10:06 AM
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I'll pretend you didn't just say that...
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That wasn't aimed at anyone and they were meant as three seperate statements. The "preventing birth" comment just made me think of them and I think they are kinda funny.
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Re: Extraterrestrial religion metaphor
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I'll pretend you didn't just say that...
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That wasn't aimed at anyone and they were meant as three seperate statements. The "preventing birth" comment just made me think of them and I think they are kinda funny.
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03-28-2008, 10:11 AM
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The Tiki gods...well, duh
Who's to say planets, rocks, light, gases, etc are unconsciouss? Years ago, nobody believed that plants had a consciousness and it was later proven that they do, even though primitive in our perspective. What if all matter consists of consciousness, we simply aren't aware of how to gauge it or realize it. Hell, theories of relativity are changing and being modified every year as we learn new things.
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Again, hence the (that we are aware of). We may figure that plants are "conscious" in a primitive form but we can't say that we are aware that they are trying to understand their surroundings. We can't say they aren't either.
However, IF everything in the universe is actually conscious and trying to understand itself, then great, the universe is simply an existence trying to understand itself.
If there is one thing in the universe that is not conscious and trying to understand itself, then we are a part of the universe trying to understand itself.
Its not that difficult guys...
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Re: Extraterrestrial religion metaphor
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The Tiki gods...well, duh
Who's to say planets, rocks, light, gases, etc are unconsciouss? Years ago, nobody believed that plants had a consciousness and it was later proven that they do, even though primitive in our perspective. What if all matter consists of consciousness, we simply aren't aware of how to gauge it or realize it. Hell, theories of relativity are changing and being modified every year as we learn new things.
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Again, hence the (that we are aware of). We may figure that plants are "conscious" in a primitive form but we can't say that we are aware that they are trying to understand their surroundings. We can't say they aren't either.
However, IF everything in the universe is actually conscious and trying to understand itself, then great, the universe is simply an existence trying to understand itself.
If there is one thing in the universe that is not conscious and trying to understand itself, then we are a part of the universe trying to understand itself.
Its not that difficult guys...
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03-28-2008, 10:19 AM
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I don't know if this has been discussed before but i'm pretty sure TOOL uses the "extraterrestrial" thing as a metaphor. The unknown/unexplainable aspect of aliens shows a similarity to what alot of people see as a god.
The main character in Rosetta Stoned could be a metaphoric interpretation of a messiah like, for example, Jesus.
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Sounds like something L.Ron would do...
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Re: Extraterrestrial religion metaphor
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I don't know if this has been discussed before but i'm pretty sure TOOL uses the "extraterrestrial" thing as a metaphor. The unknown/unexplainable aspect of aliens shows a similarity to what alot of people see as a god.
The main character in Rosetta Stoned could be a metaphoric interpretation of a messiah like, for example, Jesus.
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Sounds like something L.Ron would do...
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03-28-2008, 10:20 AM
So fuck R O L O and fuck all his clones...
Sorry, not really...it just fit...
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So fuck R O L O and fuck all his clones...
Sorry, not really...it just fit...
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