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04-06-2012, 10:25 PM
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I recently lost a hard drive containing my music and specifically the 10,000 Days album. The version of Viginti Tres I had was an instrumental song (guitar, bass, drums) which basically repeated the same bar of music over and over. I just thought it was the only version of the song, but after recently replacing the album, the Viginti Tres I now have (which is what most people seem to have - the weird synthetic breathing noises, etc) is completely different from the version I used to have. Can anyone explain this? Thanks : )
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Lost song Viginti Tres?

I recently lost a hard drive containing my music and specifically the 10,000 Days album. The version of Viginti Tres I had was an instrumental song (guitar, bass, drums) which basically repeated the same bar of music over and over. I just thought it was the only version of the song, but after recently replacing the album, the Viginti Tres I now have (which is what most people seem to have - the weird synthetic breathing noises, etc) is completely different from the version I used to have. Can anyone explain this? Thanks : )
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what kind of audio format was the first version, how was it obtained, and when? are you sure it wasn't "merkaba" off the salival boxset? if it was downloaded as a leak, then it can't be considered official - for instance, i've seen multiple versions of 10k days with very different track (and album) lengths ...so i'm not sure what kind of tampering goes into uploading 320kbps torrent/mediafire files. but if it was a straight rip of a legitimate hardcopy compact disc, then i am indeed sorry for your loss ...and very curious. did you remember it sounding like tool (sans maynard)? was it good?
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Re: Lost song Viginti Tres?

what kind of audio format was the first version, how was it obtained, and when? are you sure it wasn't "merkaba" off the salival boxset? if it was downloaded as a leak, then it can't be considered official - for instance, i've seen multiple versions of 10k days with very different track (and album) lengths ...so i'm not sure what kind of tampering goes into uploading 320kbps torrent/mediafire files. but if it was a straight rip of a legitimate hardcopy compact disc, then i am indeed sorry for your loss ...and very curious. did you remember it sounding like tool (sans maynard)? was it good?
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Maybe I'm deviating, but upon some ingestion of thc and a stern listening sesh I came upon. The reasoning that maybe tool intended this album to be listend to back words... or god deescinding into matter. Or kether into malkuth. Even keeping the partner songs in the same arrangement so: 11, 9/10, 7/8, 6, 3/4, 2, 1. I came to find that the whole album flows much better.......
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Re: Lost song Viginti Tres?

Maybe I'm deviating, but upon some ingestion of thc and a stern listening sesh I came upon. The reasoning that maybe tool intended this album to be listend to back words... or god deescinding into matter. Or kether into malkuth. Even keeping the partner songs in the same arrangement so: 11, 9/10, 7/8, 6, 3/4, 2, 1. I came to find that the whole album flows much better.......
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Maybe I'm deviating, but upon some ingestion of thc and a stern listening sesh I came upon. The reasoning that maybe tool intended this album to be listend to back words... or god deescinding into matter. Or kether into malkuth. Even keeping the partner songs in the same arrangement so: 11, 9/10, 7/8, 6, 3/4, 2, 1. I came to find that the whole album flows much better.......
...What about The Pot? :(
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Maybe I'm deviating, but upon some ingestion of thc and a stern listening sesh I came upon. The reasoning that maybe tool intended this album to be listend to back words... or god deescinding into matter. Or kether into malkuth. Even keeping the partner songs in the same arrangement so: 11, 9/10, 7/8, 6, 3/4, 2, 1. I came to find that the whole album flows much better.......
...What about The Pot? :(
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I seem to have forgotten how to count. But the pot would indeed come after lipan.
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I seem to have forgotten how to count. But the pot would indeed come after lipan.
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10-10-2012, 10:09 PM
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back in the day just after laterals was released a friend of mine showed me if you reverse the grudge on his cd you discover a track with danny carey reading something occukt, i think it was the 19th call of te aethyrs, so what i think is that if problem 8 was a hidden track there must be more on the other abums aswell.

so good to hear about it , that means youve got 1 of a limeted amount of cds manufactured with a collecters item track on it.
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Re: Lost song Viginti Tres?

back in the day just after laterals was released a friend of mine showed me if you reverse the grudge on his cd you discover a track with danny carey reading something occukt, i think it was the 19th call of te aethyrs, so what i think is that if problem 8 was a hidden track there must be more on the other abums aswell.

so good to hear about it , that means youve got 1 of a limeted amount of cds manufactured with a collecters item track on it.
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Actually i believe the 10000 days puzzle is the songs have to reordered. the album should be listened too as follows and you'll discover something great:

11,9/10,6,7/8,5,3/4,2,1
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Re: Lost song Viginti Tres?

Actually i believe the 10000 days puzzle is the songs have to reordered. the album should be listened too as follows and you'll discover something great:

11,9/10,6,7/8,5,3/4,2,1
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10-24-2012, 10:02 AM
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if you reverse the grudge on his cd you discover a track with danny carey reading something occukt
prove it- it would be nice if it would be true and not just a giant piece of bullshit as i think right now :D

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if you reverse the grudge on his cd you discover a track with danny carey reading something occukt
prove it- it would be nice if it would be true and not just a giant piece of bullshit as i think right now :D

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10-24-2012, 10:07 AM
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sorry brother heroin- i just saw your signature :X
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sorry brother heroin- i just saw your signature :X
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04-01-2013, 01:44 AM
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I had this song!!! It was amazing. I can tell you that I downloaded it via Kazaa in about 2003/4/5, it's about 9 minutes long. It was my favorite song ever at the time. I have lost it, and I want to find it again. PLEASE PLEASE upload it somewhere.
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I had this song!!! It was amazing. I can tell you that I downloaded it via Kazaa in about 2003/4/5, it's about 9 minutes long. It was my favorite song ever at the time. I have lost it, and I want to find it again. PLEASE PLEASE upload it somewhere.
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10-03-2013, 12:49 AM
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I believe myself to have decoded the speech at the end of Viginti Tres.

As I understand it, it has something to do with a group of entities relating to the moon. That is all I am able to espouse at the moment. To say more I fear would be dangerous.
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I believe myself to have decoded the speech at the end of Viginti Tres.

As I understand it, it has something to do with a group of entities relating to the moon. That is all I am able to espouse at the moment. To say more I fear would be dangerous.
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