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on a first listening base, i found it more accesible than Lateralus or AEnima because there are more transparent parts. But I guess I will refrain from more details untill I have it in my cd player.
Oh and one more thing about the differences between my review and Kabir's: i heard it on February 26th and wrote this story a few hours ago from memory and notes of that evening. Maybe that is one of the reasons for the differences. (Or the trackorder / other things have been changed during those weeks.)
And this will be my last comment untill Sunday or Monday. Happy Easter! :)
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Did you find the album to be pretty accessible? Was it easy to listen to, or did it become a little obscure and difficult to penetrate over the course of the album?
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on a first listening base, i found it more accesible than Lateralus or AEnima because there are more transparent parts. But I guess I will refrain from more details untill I have it in my cd player.
Oh and one more thing about the differences between my review and Kabir's: i heard it on February 26th and wrote this story a few hours ago from memory and notes of that evening. Maybe that is one of the reasons for the differences. (Or the trackorder / other things have been changed during those weeks.)
And this will be my last comment untill Sunday or Monday. Happy Easter! :)
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04-14-2006, 06:10 AM
So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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The most current edition of the Dutch magazine OOR has a big feature about Tool and also a review of the listening session. If a translation is not posted already by next Sunday/Monday, I will try to do it.
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The most current edition of the Dutch magazine OOR has a big feature about Tool and also a review of the listening session. If a translation is not posted already by next Sunday/Monday, I will try to do it.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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I assume you're talking about the other members doing some vocals? Awesome, I'm looking forward to hearing them.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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Using the "song titles" and everything. Clever.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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I assume you're talking about the other members doing some vocals? Awesome, I'm looking forward to hearing them.
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jeeez are you serious?
the patient is one of the (if not "the" ) most beautiful tool songs ever.
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I don't skip either, but the Patient is my 2nd least favorite real song on Lateralus after Disposition.
Personally I listen to Tool for their hard-hitting, fast stuff. I'm not nearly as interested in the slower tunes.
Just me though.
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jeeez are you serious?
the patient is one of the (if not "the" ) most beautiful tool songs ever.
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Personally I listen to Tool for their hard-hitting, fast stuff. I'm not nearly as interested in the slower tunes.
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one more thing about being disappointed or not; i meant that a lot of people like the strong, heavy music and vocals and they might get less than they hoped for. (Something that got a bit lost in this otherwise accurate English translation by Gajarigon.) The force of the previous two albums made me like being pleasantly run over by a car or something. That feeling is less now.
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one more thing about being disappointed or not; i meant that a lot of people like the strong, heavy music and vocals and they might get less than they hoped for. (Something that got a bit lost in this otherwise accurate English translation by Gajarigon.) The force of the previous two albums made me like being pleasantly run over by a car or something. That feeling is less now.
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Whenever I attempt to commit suicide i always end up bypassing it by thinking what would jesus do.
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Whenever I attempt to commit suicide i always end up bypassing it by thinking what would jesus do.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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It was said in the french interview by Danny that he had only recently listened to the album with the finalized track listing, and that interview was done after some of the listening sessions. So.... there's a very good chance that the tracklist was different between when Hans heard it a couple of months ago, and when Kabir listened to it last night.
Conclusion- Maybe they actually do have their shit together.
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So if you read Kabir's review he says that the album starts out very fast and hard. And here we have someone who says it starts slow and melodic. Get your shit together guys.
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It was said in the french interview by Danny that he had only recently listened to the album with the finalized track listing, and that interview was done after some of the listening sessions. So.... there's a very good chance that the tracklist was different between when Hans heard it a couple of months ago, and when Kabir listened to it last night.
Conclusion- Maybe they actually do have their shit together.
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I listened to the album again today (for the first time since that listening session in February).
I totally feel like that previous night had either another trackorder , or half of it did not make it on the final production. The 10.000 days I heard today indeed is the forcefull meshuggah-influenced record and as Kabir's review states: the start is fast and hard. I will write a full review this weekend.
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I listened to the album again today (for the first time since that listening session in February).
I totally feel like that previous night had either another trackorder , or half of it did not make it on the final production. The 10.000 days I heard today indeed is the forcefull meshuggah-influenced record and as Kabir's review states: the start is fast and hard. I will write a full review this weekend.
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I listened to the album again today (for the first time since that listening session in February).
I totally feel like that previous night had either another trackorder , or half of it did not make it on the final production. The 10.000 days I heard today indeed is the forcefull meshuggah-influenced record and as Kabir's review states: the start is fast and hard. I will write a full review this weekend.
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I listened to the album again today (for the first time since that listening session in February).
I totally feel like that previous night had either another trackorder , or half of it did not make it on the final production. The 10.000 days I heard today indeed is the forcefull meshuggah-influenced record and as Kabir's review states: the start is fast and hard. I will write a full review this weekend.
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Maybe the band had plenty of left overs or something? Weird...
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I don't think anyone can say the start of Vicarious is fast and hard. hmmmm....
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I don't think anyone can say the start of Vicarious is fast and hard. hmmmm....
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The first real evidence that there may be more than 11 tracks floating around out there. Of course, that tells us nothing.
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The first real evidence that there may be more than 11 tracks floating around out there. Of course, that tells us nothing.
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The album is beautiful.
All that needs to be said.
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The album is beautiful.
All that needs to be said.
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Hans, is track 1 "Vicarious" the single, then?
How much of the material would you say is new, roughly?
Jesus H. Corbett, this place is about to go fucking beserk, lol
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Hans, is track 1 "Vicarious" the single, then?
How much of the material would you say is new, roughly?
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I don't think anyone can say the start of Vicarious is fast and hard. hmmmm....
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It's fast for a Tool song.
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I don't think anyone can say the start of Vicarious is fast and hard. hmmmm....
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Jambi, would be harder.
The difference between Vicarious and Stinkfist/the Grudge/Intolerance/Sweat is the fact Vicarious has no silence or intro noise.
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That sounds about spot on tbh.
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Jambi, would be harder.
The difference between Vicarious and Stinkfist/the Grudge/Intolerance/Sweat is the fact Vicarious has no silence or intro noise.
Maybe that is what hard & fast is?
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Yeah, I agree with that. I think I missed something. When the confusion came about regarding the album staring out "fast and hard" or "slow and melodic" did the people who gave those opinions mean the whole first song or just the beginning of the first song? I just meant that I would think it would be hard for anyone to consider the first 40 seconds of Vicarious fast and hard.
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Yeah, I agree with that. I think I missed something. When the confusion came about regarding the album staring out "fast and hard" or "slow and melodic" did the people who gave those opinions mean the whole first song or just the beginning of the first song? I just meant that I would think it would be hard for anyone to consider the first 40 seconds of Vicarious fast and hard. |
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Hans, is track 1 "Vicarious" the single, then?
How much of the material would you say is new, roughly?
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I guess track 1 in february = Vicarious , in the end my comment about the soft start is just about the first 40 seconds (compared to the first 40 seconds of the previous albums). Weird that my first impression back then was a less heavy album, but I still stand with my remarks about more atmospheric and "soft" spots (like what i described as meditating munks / indians, that turned out to be Lipan Conjuring).
My previous comment was meant as being surprised that I couldn't believe that this should be the same record that I was listening to 6 weeks ago.
Personally I don't see the point of Tool doing all the effort of a fake listening on purpose. Unless they really weren't ready with the final track order and had these media obligations to fulfill.
At this point, I'd say back then we were listening to the real thing and that the differences with the previous albums (as in: the more transparent and atmospheric moments) were more significant to me than the heavier tracks.
It just shows that just one listening is not a reliable source for a review written 6 weeks later. The points standing out immediately afterwards were the more soft spots. All that made a memory that is a little beside the truth.
Unless Tool reveals that there actually was a difference... but I don't buy it.
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Hans, is track 1 "Vicarious" the single, then?
How much of the material would you say is new, roughly?
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I guess track 1 in february = Vicarious , in the end my comment about the soft start is just about the first 40 seconds (compared to the first 40 seconds of the previous albums). Weird that my first impression back then was a less heavy album, but I still stand with my remarks about more atmospheric and "soft" spots (like what i described as meditating munks / indians, that turned out to be Lipan Conjuring).
My previous comment was meant as being surprised that I couldn't believe that this should be the same record that I was listening to 6 weeks ago.
Personally I don't see the point of Tool doing all the effort of a fake listening on purpose. Unless they really weren't ready with the final track order and had these media obligations to fulfill.
At this point, I'd say back then we were listening to the real thing and that the differences with the previous albums (as in: the more transparent and atmospheric moments) were more significant to me than the heavier tracks.
It just shows that just one listening is not a reliable source for a review written 6 weeks later. The points standing out immediately afterwards were the more soft spots. All that made a memory that is a little beside the truth.
Unless Tool reveals that there actually was a difference... but I don't buy it.
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I guess track 1 in february = Vicarious , in the end my comment about the soft start is just about the first 40 seconds (compared to the first 40 seconds of the previous albums). Weird that my first impression back then was a less heavy album, but I still stand with my remarks about more atmospheric and "soft" spots (like what i described as meditating munks / indians, that turned out to be Lipan Conjuring).
My previous comment was meant as being surprised that I couldn't believe that this should be the same record that I was listening to 6 weeks ago.
Personally I don't see the point of Tool doing all the effort of a fake listening on purpose. Unless they really weren't ready with the final track order and had these media obligations to fulfill.
At this point, I'd say back then we were listening to the real thing and that the differences with the previous albums (as in: the more transparent and atmospheric moments) were more significant to me than the heavier tracks.
It just shows that just one listening is not a reliable source for a review written 6 weeks later. The points standing out immediately afterwards were the more soft spots. All that made a memory that is a little beside the truth.
Unless Tool reveals that there actually was a difference... but I don't buy it.
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I guess track 1 in february = Vicarious , in the end my comment about the soft start is just about the first 40 seconds (compared to the first 40 seconds of the previous albums). Weird that my first impression back then was a less heavy album, but I still stand with my remarks about more atmospheric and "soft" spots (like what i described as meditating munks / indians, that turned out to be Lipan Conjuring).
My previous comment was meant as being surprised that I couldn't believe that this should be the same record that I was listening to 6 weeks ago.
Personally I don't see the point of Tool doing all the effort of a fake listening on purpose. Unless they really weren't ready with the final track order and had these media obligations to fulfill.
At this point, I'd say back then we were listening to the real thing and that the differences with the previous albums (as in: the more transparent and atmospheric moments) were more significant to me than the heavier tracks.
It just shows that just one listening is not a reliable source for a review written 6 weeks later. The points standing out immediately afterwards were the more soft spots. All that made a memory that is a little beside the truth.
Unless Tool reveals that there actually was a difference... but I don't buy it.
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i would say... now will you shut up about a decoy naysayers?
but we all know that your just convinced that the whole band traveled round the world for a month just to pull a prank...
once again i would think that was awesome if they did, but i think they have better to do.
and also the whole "b-side" argument?
you think nard wrote wings for marie like 10 years ago? before she passed?
hmm.
i think its all laid to rest, but i think there will be people still waiting a year from now for the "real" album...
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I guess track 1 in february = Vicarious , in the end my comment about the soft start is just about the first 40 seconds (compared to the first 40 seconds of the previous albums). Weird that my first impression back then was a less heavy album, but I still stand with my remarks about more atmospheric and "soft" spots (like what i described as meditating munks / indians, that turned out to be Lipan Conjuring).
My previous comment was meant as being surprised that I couldn't believe that this should be the same record that I was listening to 6 weeks ago.
Personally I don't see the point of Tool doing all the effort of a fake listening on purpose. Unless they really weren't ready with the final track order and had these media obligations to fulfill.
At this point, I'd say back then we were listening to the real thing and that the differences with the previous albums (as in: the more transparent and atmospheric moments) were more significant to me than the heavier tracks.
It just shows that just one listening is not a reliable source for a review written 6 weeks later. The points standing out immediately afterwards were the more soft spots. All that made a memory that is a little beside the truth.
Unless Tool reveals that there actually was a difference... but I don't buy it.
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i would say... now will you shut up about a decoy naysayers?
but we all know that your just convinced that the whole band traveled round the world for a month just to pull a prank...
once again i would think that was awesome if they did, but i think they have better to do.
and also the whole "b-side" argument?
you think nard wrote wings for marie like 10 years ago? before she passed?
hmm.
i think its all laid to rest, but i think there will be people still waiting a year from now for the "real" album...
sad.
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I guess track 1 in february = Vicarious , in the end my comment about the soft start is just about the first 40 seconds (compared to the first 40 seconds of the previous albums). Weird that my first impression back then was a less heavy album, but I still stand with my remarks about more atmospheric and "soft" spots (like what i described as meditating munks / indians, that turned out to be Lipan Conjuring).
My previous comment was meant as being surprised that I couldn't believe that this should be the same record that I was listening to 6 weeks ago.
Personally I don't see the point of Tool doing all the effort of a fake listening on purpose. Unless they really weren't ready with the final track order and had these media obligations to fulfill.
At this point, I'd say back then we were listening to the real thing and that the differences with the previous albums (as in: the more transparent and atmospheric moments) were more significant to me than the heavier tracks.
It just shows that just one listening is not a reliable source for a review written 6 weeks later. The points standing out immediately afterwards were the more soft spots. All that made a memory that is a little beside the truth.
Unless Tool reveals that there actually was a difference... but I don't buy it.
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I agree. Whenever I listen to Lateralus, I always skip The Grudge and Eon Blue Apocalypse and go straight to The Patient.
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You skipping the grudge makes me want to cry :(
Also it makes me want to listen to it really loud but its late, bugger.
I liked the dutch guys review, i've only listened to 10,000 days once and thats pretty much how i felt.
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I agree. Whenever I listen to Lateralus, I always skip The Grudge and Eon Blue Apocalypse and go straight to The Patient.
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You skipping the grudge makes me want to cry :(
Also it makes me want to listen to it really loud but its late, bugger.
I liked the dutch guys review, i've only listened to 10,000 days once and thats pretty much how i felt.
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This English translation for my review will apear on a Dutch music website. (I made the translation myself so if you see erros, PM me and I will edit this post.) Sorry if there is an official review topic (can't find it) but i guess it will be ok to post in my "own" thread :)
Tool – 10.000 Days
The spectrum of the new Tool album ranges from very loud to very soft, with some distinctive changes from the previous albums.
The first messages about the successor to Lateralus set some high expectations; the new Tool record was believed to be influenced by Meshuggah and to become the most extreme album of the group so far. After the release this seems partly true: 10.000 Days is indeed the most extreme album by the band but mainly concerning the space between extremely heavy and extremely soft.
The machinegun-like riffs and the intro of Jambi seem to prove the influence by the former mentioned band, but concerning the whole 75 minutes, the sound is more transparent and there are more breathing points. The biggest musical differences compared to AEnima and Lateralus are in the rhythm section; there is much use of the tabla alongside the fierce drumming and a more prominent role for the bass, for example in one of the highlights of the album: The Pot.
Lyrically, Maynard seems to focus from being mainly introspective towards the world surrounding him; on our fascination with violence in the media (in ‘Vicarious’) and about angels who look down on us (‘baffled and confused’), wondering about those crazy species that ruin the world (‘Right in Two’). A kind of explicit songwriting that finds its climax in ‘Wings for Marie / 10.000 Days’. This epic song spans over fifteen minutes and is a heartbreaking salute to Maynard’s late mother who died after being paralysed for over 27 years (approximately ten thousand days). Truly one of the bands most emotional songs which melts all extremes of this album together.
It seems that more songs on the album are paired together, either lyrically or musically. ‘Lost Keys’ and ‘Rosetta Stoned’ each tells about a patient in a different perspective and also ‘Intension’ and ‘Right In Two’ blend into each other perfectly. As usual, the artwork is a treat in itself; the sleeve contains a pair of goggles that enable you to experience the pictures in 3D. 10.000 Days is a captivating record that may trigger a different sensation compared to the previous albums, but it will be an exciting sensation all the same.
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Re: Hans' listening session (translation
This English translation for my review will apear on a Dutch music website. (I made the translation myself so if you see erros, PM me and I will edit this post.) Sorry if there is an official review topic (can't find it) but i guess it will be ok to post in my "own" thread :)
Tool – 10.000 Days
The spectrum of the new Tool album ranges from very loud to very soft, with some distinctive changes from the previous albums.
The first messages about the successor to Lateralus set some high expectations; the new Tool record was believed to be influenced by Meshuggah and to become the most extreme album of the group so far. After the release this seems partly true: 10.000 Days is indeed the most extreme album by the band but mainly concerning the space between extremely heavy and extremely soft.
The machinegun-like riffs and the intro of Jambi seem to prove the influence by the former mentioned band, but concerning the whole 75 minutes, the sound is more transparent and there are more breathing points. The biggest musical differences compared to AEnima and Lateralus are in the rhythm section; there is much use of the tabla alongside the fierce drumming and a more prominent role for the bass, for example in one of the highlights of the album: The Pot.
Lyrically, Maynard seems to focus from being mainly introspective towards the world surrounding him; on our fascination with violence in the media (in ‘Vicarious’) and about angels who look down on us (‘baffled and confused’), wondering about those crazy species that ruin the world (‘Right in Two’). A kind of explicit songwriting that finds its climax in ‘Wings for Marie / 10.000 Days’. This epic song spans over fifteen minutes and is a heartbreaking salute to Maynard’s late mother who died after being paralysed for over 27 years (approximately ten thousand days). Truly one of the bands most emotional songs which melts all extremes of this album together.
It seems that more songs on the album are paired together, either lyrically or musically. ‘Lost Keys’ and ‘Rosetta Stoned’ each tells about a patient in a different perspective and also ‘Intension’ and ‘Right In Two’ blend into each other perfectly. As usual, the artwork is a treat in itself; the sleeve contains a pair of goggles that enable you to experience the pictures in 3D. 10.000 Days is a captivating record that may trigger a different sensation compared to the previous albums, but it will be an exciting sensation all the same.
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