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I work at borders in receiving and shipping, and both the import and 10000 days are supposed dual cd's. The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's. I looked this up after I heard my boss talking about an album given to amazon that they sold thinking it would be one cd. (supposedly amazon is pissed they can't change the price with the new knowledge) With all the crazyness here I ran to the computer and it was TOOL. So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?
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Borders has both the import and cd as duals
I work at borders in receiving and shipping, and both the import and 10000 days are supposed dual cd's. The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's. I looked this up after I heard my boss talking about an album given to amazon that they sold thinking it would be one cd. (supposedly amazon is pissed they can't change the price with the new knowledge) With all the crazyness here I ran to the computer and it was TOOL. So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?
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hmm, do I know you?
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04-22-2006, 12:40 PM
sure its not dualDISC (DVD-A)?
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sure its not dualDISC (DVD-A)?
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LIES
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Tool + DVDA = DREAM COME TRUE for some groupie
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sure its not dualDISC (DVD-A)?
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04-22-2006, 12:41 PM
probably the most valid news we have
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probably the most valid news we have
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I work at borders in receiving and shipping, and both the import and 10000 days are supposed dual cd's. The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's. I looked this up after I heard my boss talking about an album given to amazon that they sold thinking it would be one cd. (supposedly amazon is pissed they can't change the price with the new knowledge) With all the crazyness here I ran to the computer and it was TOOL. So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?
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kinda like this
http://www.upcdatabase.com/manufacturer.asp?mfrid=828768
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I work at borders in receiving and shipping, and both the import and 10000 days are supposed dual cd's. The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's. I looked this up after I heard my boss talking about an album given to amazon that they sold thinking it would be one cd. (supposedly amazon is pissed they can't change the price with the new knowledge) With all the crazyness here I ran to the computer and it was TOOL. So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?
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04-22-2006, 12:42 PM
We'll know in 6-7 days for sure what's going on.
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
We'll know in 6-7 days for sure what's going on.
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sure, been doing this for 3 years
very few dual cd's come through here, they are easily distinguisable
there is a gov tax on cd's - and we charge a bit more because 2 cd's means twice the tax we pay
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sure its not dualDISC (DVD-A)?
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sure, been doing this for 3 years
very few dual cd's come through here, they are easily distinguisable
there is a gov tax on cd's - and we charge a bit more because 2 cd's means twice the tax we pay |
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kinda like this
http://www.upcdatabase.com/manufacturer.asp?mfrid=828768
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that's very odd, they ALWAYS notify the number of cd's even if it's one
as you see above that
well atleast that's what we get
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kinda like this
http://www.upcdatabase.com/manufacturer.asp?mfrid=828768
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that's very odd, they ALWAYS notify the number of cd's even if it's one
as you see above that
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kinda like this
http://www.upcdatabase.com/manufacturer.asp?mfrid=828768
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lost modified... april 7th...
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kinda like this
http://www.upcdatabase.com/manufacturer.asp?mfrid=828768
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lost modified... april 7th...
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04-22-2006, 12:51 PM
thats normal.
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I hope it's not a dual disc... You miss out on the CD art then. I don't know why, but it's important to me. Can't we at least DREAM of a 2CD album until the second?
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
I hope it's not a dual disc... You miss out on the CD art then. I don't know why, but it's important to me. Can't we at least DREAM of a 2CD album until the second?
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Borders will rip you off, so yeah, that seems pretty normal (I love the place, but the prices can be outrageous).
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Borders will rip you off, so yeah, that seems pretty normal (I love the place, but the prices can be outrageous).
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Borders is typically a rip off but sometimes they have good hard to find shit. SOMETIMES.
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Borders is typically a rip off but sometimes they have good hard to find shit. SOMETIMES.
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Haha! Caught the reference. Nice ;)
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Haha! Caught the reference. Nice ;)
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I hope it's not a dual disc... You miss out on the CD art then. I don't know why, but it's important to me. Can't we at least DREAM of a 2CD album until the second?
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I hope it's not a dual disc... You miss out on the CD art then. I don't know why, but it's important to me. Can't we at least DREAM of a 2CD album until the second?
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I hope it's not a dual disc... You miss out on the CD art then. I don't know why, but it's important to me. Can't we at least DREAM of a 2CD album until the second?
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I hope it's not a dual disc... You miss out on the CD art then. I don't know why, but it's important to me. Can't we at least DREAM of a 2CD album until the second?
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I'll dream along with you. Two cd's would be quite wonderful.
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hell yeah....classic!
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hell yeah....classic!
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I'm running back to work tonight to pick up my roommate, I'll check when that was last updated -something is wrong with that. You'll see a dual cd from anywhere from 21.99 to 34.99. I would assume store prices to edit that price. Maybe the e-commerce section got 'had' like amazons. I'll let you know what I find out.
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
I'm running back to work tonight to pick up my roommate, I'll check when that was last updated -something is wrong with that. You'll see a dual cd from anywhere from 21.99 to 34.99. I would assume store prices to edit that price. Maybe the e-commerce section got 'had' like amazons. I'll let you know what I find out.
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04-22-2006, 01:01 PM
Don't fret precious i'm here,step away from the window, go back to sleep ....
when and if there is 2 cd's a duel disc , import, whatever? everyone will be selling it !!
so until then wish in one hand shit in the other and see what you get.
TOOL LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't fret precious i'm here,step away from the window, go back to sleep ....
when and if there is 2 cd's a duel disc , import, whatever? everyone will be selling it !!
so until then wish in one hand shit in the other and see what you get.
TOOL LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bring a camrea and take a picture...
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18 bucks is the "list price" is Amazon. Then the save you 42%.
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18 bucks is the "list price" is Amazon. Then the save you 42%.
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well, Trent Reznor's response to "why is with_teeth on DD rather than superaudio cd?"
tr: "the execs said that "DD is the future of music". (whatever.)" (something along those lines)
My guess- CD is released as a Dual disc, one side being standard cd, the other being a 5.1 mix on dvd audio.
maybe a video will be included, maybe not. (but then again, the video would probably have leaked as well.)
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
well, Trent Reznor's response to "why is with_teeth on DD rather than superaudio cd?"
tr: "the execs said that "DD is the future of music". (whatever.)" (something along those lines)
My guess- CD is released as a Dual disc, one side being standard cd, the other being a 5.1 mix on dvd audio.
maybe a video will be included, maybe not. (but then again, the video would probably have leaked as well.)
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Ehh..
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There is no way tool are lame enough to have a prostituted remix of their new art in 5.1 channel sound. That would be the most retarded thing I ever heard.
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There is no way tool are lame enough to have a prostituted remix of their new art in 5.1 channel sound. That would be the most retarded thing I ever heard.
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There is no way tool are lame enough to have a prostituted remix of their new art in 5.1 channel sound. That would be the most retarded thing I ever heard.
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There is no way tool are lame enough to have a prostituted remix of their new art in 5.1 channel sound. That would be the most retarded thing I ever heard.
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stereoscopic audio
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...The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's....
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Import = 10,000 Days + live DVD
CD = 2 discs of "real" new Tool
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...The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's....
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Import = 10,000 Days + live DVD
CD = 2 discs of "real" new Tool
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Hey
What makes a man?
Is it the power in his hands?
Is it his quest for glory?
Give it all you've got,
to fight to the top
So we can know your story
Now you're a man
A man, man man
Now you're a man
A manny manny man
A man man man
You are now a man
You're a man
Now you're a man
Live it, Live it
What make a man?
Is it the woman in his arms?
Just cause she has big titties?
Or is it the way he fights every day?
....No, it's probably the titties
Now you're a man
A man, man man
Now you're a man-man
Man-man man-man man
Now you're a man
M-A-N, man
Man, man-man man
Now you're a man
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Tool + DVDA = DREAM COME TRUE for some groupie
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Hey
What makes a man?
Is it the power in his hands?
Is it his quest for glory?
Give it all you've got,
to fight to the top
So we can know your story
Now you're a man
A man, man man
Now you're a man
A manny manny man
A man man man
You are now a man
You're a man
Now you're a man
Live it, Live it
What make a man?
Is it the woman in his arms?
Just cause she has big titties?
Or is it the way he fights every day?
....No, it's probably the titties
Now you're a man
A man, man man
Now you're a man-man
Man-man man-man man
Now you're a man
M-A-N, man
Man, man-man man
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Hey I bet you're one of those ultimate morons that listen to STEREO music thru 5.1 'surround'! Just for anyone that does actually do this (and I know heaps of dumasses do it), you're a dick! You've totally mangled the stereo sound stage and the absolute shite you're hearing does not resemble the recording in the slightest.
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Danny mentioned a 5.1 mix, fuckass.
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Hey I bet you're one of those ultimate morons that listen to STEREO music thru 5.1 'surround'! Just for anyone that does actually do this (and I know heaps of dumasses do it), you're a dick! You've totally mangled the stereo sound stage and the absolute shite you're hearing does not resemble the recording in the slightest.
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selma snake dance music cd + leaked "real" bsides album.
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selma snake dance music cd + leaked "real" bsides album.
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Hey I bet you're one of those ultimate morons that listen to STEREO music thru 5.1 'surround'! Just for anyone that does actually do this (and I know heaps of dumasses do it), you're a dick! You've totally mangled the stereo sound stage and the absolute shite you're hearing does not resemble the recording in the slightest.
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Hey I bet you're one of those ultimate morons that listen to STEREO music thru 5.1 'surround'! Just for anyone that does actually do this (and I know heaps of dumasses do it), you're a dick! You've totally mangled the stereo sound stage and the absolute shite you're hearing does not resemble the recording in the slightest.
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i lol'd at vilemerchant
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i lol'd at vilemerchant
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Seems like all the Tool albums are listed at $18 and just sold for $10-$12.
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04-22-2006, 06:04 PM
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
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Originally Posted by Wakkawakka
18 bucks is the "list price" is Amazon. Then the save you 42%.
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Seems like all the Tool albums are listed at $18 and just sold for $10-$12. |
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04-22-2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vilemerchant
Hey I bet you're one of those ultimate morons that listen to STEREO music thru 5.1 'surround'! Just for anyone that does actually do this (and I know heaps of dumasses do it), you're a dick! You've totally mangled the stereo sound stage and the absolute shite you're hearing does not resemble the recording in the slightest.
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For all you know, they recorded with the correct microphone placement for 5.1 surround.
p.s. I dont think that they did or that anybody will anytime soon, nor do I want anybody to, but I felt like you were making the wrong assumptions. If anybody would know how the bands music sounded in surround, it would be the band.
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04-22-2006, 06:04 PM
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
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Originally Posted by vilemerchant
Hey I bet you're one of those ultimate morons that listen to STEREO music thru 5.1 'surround'! Just for anyone that does actually do this (and I know heaps of dumasses do it), you're a dick! You've totally mangled the stereo sound stage and the absolute shite you're hearing does not resemble the recording in the slightest.
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For all you know, they recorded with the correct microphone placement for 5.1 surround.
p.s. I dont think that they did or that anybody will anytime soon, nor do I want anybody to, but I felt like you were making the wrong assumptions. If anybody would know how the bands music sounded in surround, it would be the band. |
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Tool + DVDA = DREAM COME TRUE for some groupie
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That groupie = me!
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04-22-2006, 06:27 PM
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
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Tool + DVDA = DREAM COME TRUE for some groupie
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04-22-2006, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sejeffsghost
So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?
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[09/16/05] - You lie?
Here's a tasty morsel: the guys over at the official Suns of the Tundra site (the band formerly known as Peach, Justin's old band) mentioned something about a live Tool release:
"much excitement with the new Tool live album just round the corner, while the boys are finally laying some tracks for the sequel to 'Lateralus' now ..."
The plot thickens. [Posted by Chris] §
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04-22-2006, 06:30 PM
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Re: Borders has both the import and cd as duals
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Originally Posted by sejeffsghost
So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?
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[09/16/05] - You lie?
Here's a tasty morsel: the guys over at the official Suns of the Tundra site (the band formerly known as Peach, Justin's old band) mentioned something about a live Tool release:
"much excitement with the new Tool live album just round the corner, while the boys are finally laying some tracks for the sequel to 'Lateralus' now ..."
The plot thickens. [Posted by Chris] §
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