how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
I'm a math student here at Costa Rica's University. I have been across CS's definition, which is pretty simple and can be seen here, if anyone's interested:
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
perhaps... much like "Die Eier Von Satan"... the song is meant to start conversation about about the inclusion of something so abstract and "divergent" from the rest of the record, yet in doing so, we are Cesaro Summabilit-ing because we are attempting to "attatch some useful meaning to a divergent series"?
Interesting when people don't bother looking up obscure titles to Tool tracks and then try to figure out what they mean, isn't it?
Thanks for the .gif, I'll study it some more.
__________________ Away with our explosives then! Away with our destroyers! They have no place within our better world... But let us raise a toast to all our bombers, all our bastards, most unlovely and most unforgivable.
Let's drink to their health, then meet with them no more.
9.30.2006 - Washington, D.C.
6.07.2007 - Richmond, VA
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
Hmm... I'll think about that. I was hoping that maybe the meaning had more specifically to do with the mathematical definition, yet your brief explanation does relate...
I didn't get this: "Interesting when people don't bother looking up obscure titles to Tool tracks and then try to figure out what they mean, isn't it?"
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
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Originally Posted by iota
I didn't get this: "Interesting when people don't bother looking up obscure titles to Tool tracks and then try to figure out what they mean, isn't it?"
It was just an observation about people who don't do research (unlike you) and try to post with any sort of authority. It was more of a "thanks-for-not-being-one-of-those-guys" remark.
So... thanks for not being one of those guys.
__________________ Away with our explosives then! Away with our destroyers! They have no place within our better world... But let us raise a toast to all our bombers, all our bastards, most unlovely and most unforgivable.
Let's drink to their health, then meet with them no more.
9.30.2006 - Washington, D.C.
6.07.2007 - Richmond, VA
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
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Originally Posted by wearethestories
It was just an observation about people who don't do research (unlike you) and try to post with any sort of authority. It was more of a "thanks-for-not-being-one-of-those-guys" remark.
So... thanks for not being one of those guys.
That's cool. Too bad we're the only ones posting here...
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
Isn't Cesaro Summability the ability to quantify the infinite, or something like that? Then, isn't the frustration of trying to quantify the infinite, like trying to define the indescribable, somewhat of a scream? I know I'd scream if I tried to do something so complex.
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
This is just me, but when i dont' konw the answer I say "I dont' know the answer" rather than say "There is no answer, and like... that's what it *means*, man! 'Cause Tool is so great that they just put random noise on there, and call it "random noise" but like, in a *math* way, man! Deeeeeeep." Anyway, uh, I've no fucking idea what the hell that track is about, and for that reason I hate it. Visciously.
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
In Cesaro Summation, diverging series may still have one sum. This can be related to the different spellings: Aenima vs. Aenema...they both mean the same thing, but are spelled in differing (diverging) ways. Also note that the title track comes directly after this.
I honestly don't know what the baby and the distorted voice have to do with anything, though.
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
How about the person talking in the background. Can anyone make out what he is saying? sounds like another language, maybe it's to be played backwards? Perhaps the baby cries relates to what bassplayerphillip said. "Isn't Cesaro Summability the ability to quantify the infinite, or something like that?" Maybe the it speaks to something along the lines of parabola. We are infinite but contained in a finite body. I could be way off but its just a thought.
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
A caesarean section (AE cesarean section), or c-section, is a form of childbirth in which a surgical incision is made through a mother's abdomen (laparotomy) and uterus (hysterotomy) to deliver one or more babies. It is usually performed when a vaginal delivery would lead to medical complications, although it is increasingly common for births that would otherwise have been normal as well. ~ wikipedia
i'd like to know what that voice is saying and what that spinning sound is that sounds like a slowing propeller. i don't have the proper sound software, but i'm sure someone could tinker with it.
Beyond that, we could make up the most elaborate connections like: a cesaro sum is about making finite a divergent series and a caesarean is when we unnaturally remove a baby from the womb, which both connote mankind's tendency to fuck up the natural way things are. Being between pushit - putting shit everywhere it don't belong - and aEnema - the process of removing said shit, this rug... err.. segue really ties the room.. err.. album together.
__________________ I'm not wrong,
And if I'm not wrong,
Then you're not wrong, and
He's not wrong as well so you can
Point that fuckin' mouse on 'cancel'.
Re: how does this song relate to the mathematical Cesaro Summability definition?
I just like how Tool makes us think about just about everything and gives us unnecessary things like CS and tell us to make something out of nothing. Maynard and the boys would be great professors.
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