This is just my opinion, Its come to my attention that only musicians are the only ones really loving 10,000 days, not you everyday listen to tool once or twice on the radio while at work people, its a great album i love every bit of it, i mean its hard for me to sit and watch any movie dealing with dancing or horses but i can sit and watch Pink Floyd : The Wall over and over again. again only my opinion so don't flame!

I'm a hack guitarist, and i'm not fond of 10kd. A couple of close friends who are professional muso's aren't impressed either, but we're still highly fond of previous albums. Your opinion holds, but i disagree. *shrug*

I fancy myself a musician and I love 10,000 Days...my vote is cast

I own a guitar, a few picks, and a shit amp
I like the album for what it is, it's just short. Oh and I dont like WFM/10Kdays much.

I am a musician. The album is lacking.

Man Ob you post a lot ;) 1000 posts in one month, Jesus on iceskates...

Anyways, I've been playin drums for bout 8 years.. been playin tabla for 2... guitar for about a year and working on singing... LIKE (dont love) the album.... nothing spectacular as far as Tool goes... Aenima was their peak imo, but still.. not dissapointed perse

I have been saying this for awhile now and I totally agree. I think the musicianship is mindblowing and if you have a deep understanding of music and you play an instrument there is really no way not to be blown away by the craftsmanship of the album and the feeling put into it. It is a really astonishing album. I agree...

Sure, the craftmanship is good, and technically its impressive. But so is DragonForce.



more than that if you count binned threads ;)

edit: check my join date. Its actually been significantly less than a full month.

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Oh, yes, i know. thats why i said "binned" threads rather than "bin" threads. I was referring to the tons of posts i have made in threads that have since been moved to the bin, or deleted (the wordsmith rap battle thread etc)

Oberon...where do you go? Berklee? NEC?

I would say the musicality (even a word?) of 10,000 Days is the best tool has ever done. As far as expression emotion fluently throughout the entire album..... meh. I got related way more to previous albums, particularily Aenema, than to this one. Wings/10,000 Days is the obly real song where there is real emotion showing. I do relate to little individual lyrics here and there though.

Berklee. Those NEC and BoCo kids are jokes. ;)

heh...what do you do there?

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Thats heroic! Do you have a job?


p.s. I really fucking like most of the album. the rest, I just like.

I do NOT have a job. i'm a student, and a bit of a slacker. I'm gonna fail some classes this semester <=/



I play electric bass, and i'm an undeclared degree student, planning on going into music Ed.

edit: Musicality is indeed a word.

Guitarist here.
I don't really listen to Tool for guitar *playing*.
It's more about the sound and feel he's creating.
It's more an aesthetic thing with them.

If musicians are the only ones that can truly appreciate 10,000 Days are writers the only ones who can truly appreciate Maynard's lyrics?

I am a guitarist/bassist who has been playing jazz and rock for several years. I disagree that only musicians like the album. I know plenty of non-musicians who dig it.

I am thoroughly impressed by the album, and I have a rather large circle of musician friends who are all impressed at different levels. None of them are 'disappointed'.

While I can't say it's Tool's most impressive, the music found within is incredibly well written and performed, and I think to expect them to change the world with every album is unrealistic. What we get here is an incredibly polished group of songs, which may or may not have a common theme, that once again showcase each of the band members' skills. There is VERY little to fault about the music. Some of it is simply not to some people's tastes. But each of the songs, from a purely objective point of view of simple craftsmanship and technical performance, is excellent, so just because on person or another or even a group of people don't find it enjoyable doesn't mean it's not quality.

It's biggest problem, surprisingly, is the production. Musically, it's fantastic.

In my eyes, Tool has simultaneously become more prog and more simple. I didn't know that was even possible. And it's wonderful to behold.

I'm a musician--in a Tool cover band. Long time guitarist, just picked up bass to play for this band.

This album doesn't even come close to the previous two albums in terms of complexity, feel, and structure. It's pretty much non-existent unless you count Vicarious.

I'm used to being somewhat challenged by Justin's bass playing and I could pretty much play along with this album the first time--didn't need TAB. It ranks right there with Undertow as far as simplicity.

Which is another reason this album is a regression--not a progression.

Justin has always written excellent bass lines and this album is a bag of simple tricks. They were messing around on this one, not writing. Just four boys jammin' without much going on.

Sad...

Like aenima and Lateralus this album is well written atmospheric music that blends well with moody soundscapes to create a real work of art. I see a laid back theme for the most part that expands on what lateralus did with songs like disposition and reflection. With beautiful melodies and trance like rhythms. But there are also a couple songs that have a similar sound to that of aenima. dense and complex hard rock with diverse and odd stylings. But yet I also see this album as being completely different than both albums. They have redefined themselves. this album is their most vulnerable album to date. they're more straightforward. they're naked on this album. It is a triumphant return for a great band and I am far from disappointed. I will NOT blindly follow tool no matter how much I have liked their previous work but if they keep releasing music this good I'm not jumping off of the bandwagon.

Tool has gone down every road throughout their career and still manages to sound fresh on every album and sound like...well, tool.

And, no I am not a musician.

As for bass being easy...



Right in two.

In what way?

Song writing. aside from vicarious, the song forms are lazy.

I know--my bandmates were telling me how impressive the bass was on "The Pot".

Once you get past the rhythm, it's pretty much nothing. The rest of the song is a repeat of damn near every Paul D'Amour riff from Undertow, as is the rest of the album.

SO happy I am...

Man Oberon, if it wasn't for you I would probably give up hope altogether.

:)

Its not about complexity!
Its the ideas that matters!!!
Try to come upp with anything this good yourself instead of copying.

(My Spelling Is Fucked up so...)

dude, that tremolo thing, and the high pitched waahhoooo thing in Right in Two...

Bass.


he is quite the whammy master.



The riffs aren't that amazingly difficult, but they're well placed.


Not that i love the album overall anyway.

=P Try playing in a cover band before you knock it. Cover bands are ridiculously fun.

Have been playing Tool songs in a band for about 6 years now.
Yes! it is alot of fun.

Well, I have. My music is quite good actually.

Cover bands are much more fun though.

I've been doing this music thing a while and I know when a band is not putting their heart and soul into the songwriting. Go on and call it a "blues album" or a more direct approach all you want. Merely justifications for laziness.

I would like to add that BLUES albums and DIRECT albums are NOTHING BUT heart and soul. This album has fun riffs with zero emotion. Don't feed me any lines about the dead mother song either.

If you want to hear some blues or directness, I'll throw out a list for you and 10,000 Days will not be on it.

I'm on my way!

OH NO YOU FUCKING DON'T.

I'm a musician and I think this is Tool's worst album by an outstanding degree

You you have 100,000 posts, and I have 99,300 posts, the 700ish that seperate us won't seem like that many. We're both posting at approximately the same rate per day.


By the way, Wiki: Musician.

You'll wear out.

I'm not a musician and I love 10,000 days. Your theory fails I'm afraid.

Who said anything about "blues album"?
Not me.

I believe it was some idiot named "Danny Carey".


whoever THAT is.