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04-26-2006, 10:40 PM
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That device that Vincent DeFranco made for Adam that uses like a laser or something that somehow alters the tone by detecting the movement of the fretboard or something.

http://www.speleorovers.org/fourthey...mpatent7ms.jpg

I think this is used on this track. I think this is used on the guitar track with the long note that never dies, and then slightly changes the pitch. I think when it changes the pitch, its this device that makes it sound that way.
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does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

That device that Vincent DeFranco made for Adam that uses like a laser or something that somehow alters the tone by detecting the movement of the fretboard or something.

http://www.speleorovers.org/fourthey...mpatent7ms.jpg

I think this is used on this track. I think this is used on the guitar track with the long note that never dies, and then slightly changes the pitch. I think when it changes the pitch, its this device that makes it sound that way.
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what about the mini moog his wife got him? i hear that thing all over the album.
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

what about the mini moog his wife got him? i hear that thing all over the album.
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Yeah I hear the Moog a few times. Some of the synth during "Rosetta Stoned" has to be contributions from Danny...it sounds just like the synth in Third Eye (Live).
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

Yeah I hear the Moog a few times. Some of the synth during "Rosetta Stoned" has to be contributions from Danny...it sounds just like the synth in Third Eye (Live).
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I think this is used on this track. I think this is used on the guitar track with the long note that never dies, and then slightly changes the pitch. I think when it changes the pitch, its this device that makes it sound that way.
It's Justins bass feeding back.
in a live vid of disposition he pulls the same sound, just not for as long.
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I think this is used on this track. I think this is used on the guitar track with the long note that never dies, and then slightly changes the pitch. I think when it changes the pitch, its this device that makes it sound that way.
It's Justins bass feeding back.
in a live vid of disposition he pulls the same sound, just not for as long.
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It's Justins bass feeding back.
in a live vid of disposition he pulls the same sound, just not for as long.
I concur, but i think something is helping it, like an ebow or similar effect
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

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It's Justins bass feeding back.
in a live vid of disposition he pulls the same sound, just not for as long.
I concur, but i think something is helping it, like an ebow or similar effect
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shitolads of gain + a compressor would do it.
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shitolads of gain + a compressor would do it.
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I concur, but i think something is helping it, like an ebow or similar effect
Wouldn't be an ebow. In the Guitar World article the interviewer suggested the same thing and Adam response was "Please don't say I use an ebow"
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I concur, but i think something is helping it, like an ebow or similar effect
Wouldn't be an ebow. In the Guitar World article the interviewer suggested the same thing and Adam response was "Please don't say I use an ebow"
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because then everyone would know...
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because then everyone would know...
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Thats a bass? How in the world is it that high then? How do you go about this, I have a bass and need to try now... :)
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

Thats a bass? How in the world is it that high then? How do you go about this, I have a bass and need to try now... :)
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Thats a bass? How in the world is it that high then? How do you go about this, I have a bass and need to try now... :)

harmonics + bass whammy = high pitched fun!
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

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Thats a bass? How in the world is it that high then? How do you go about this, I have a bass and need to try now... :)

harmonics + bass whammy = high pitched fun!
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Harmonics + ____ effects + reverb Im guessing? And I didnt think he had a whammy... hmmm
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Harmonics + ____ effects + reverb Im guessing? And I didnt think he had a whammy... hmmm
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Harmonics + ____ effects + reverb Im guessing? And I didnt think he had a whammy... hmmm

yeah, he has a bass whammy and uses it A LOT.... like... a whole fucking lot. listen to aenima, lateralus, and 10,000 days all the way through looking for it. you'll hear it quite a bit.


I mean, shit, that sliding riff from schism? Whammy.


edit: I am referring to a Digitech Whammy pedal, NOT a whammy bar.
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

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Harmonics + ____ effects + reverb Im guessing? And I didnt think he had a whammy... hmmm

yeah, he has a bass whammy and uses it A LOT.... like... a whole fucking lot. listen to aenima, lateralus, and 10,000 days all the way through looking for it. you'll hear it quite a bit.


I mean, shit, that sliding riff from schism? Whammy.


edit: I am referring to a Digitech Whammy pedal, NOT a whammy bar.
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Isn't that device linked just a theremin? I know you could get just one solid sustained note from a theremin, and with a little movement within its field you could get pitch bent stuff.

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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

Isn't that device linked just a theremin? I know you could get just one solid sustained note from a theremin, and with a little movement within its field you could get pitch bent stuff.

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Listen to the end of Lateralus (With my feet upon the ground and on) Tons of whammy pedal there. I really don't think it sounds like Justin though...The tone is way trebly for anything that would come out of a bass. I could be wrong, I suppose.
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Re: does anyone remember Adam's new toy?

Listen to the end of Lateralus (With my feet upon the ground and on) Tons of whammy pedal there. I really don't think it sounds like Justin though...The tone is way trebly for anything that would come out of a bass. I could be wrong, I suppose.
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I think the Lost Keys sound is just a guitar feeding back a lot.
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I think the Lost Keys sound is just a guitar feeding back a lot.
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But it's so constant. I would really respect Jones more I saw him use feedback that way.

I still maintain he uses the pipe bomb mic for that part either way.
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But it's so constant. I would really respect Jones more I saw him use feedback that way.

I still maintain he uses the pipe bomb mic for that part either way.
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Listen to the end of Lateralus (With my feet upon the ground and on) Tons of whammy pedal there. I really don't think it sounds like Justin though...The tone is way trebly for anything that would come out of a bass. I could be wrong, I suppose.

Its bass. I promise.
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Listen to the end of Lateralus (With my feet upon the ground and on) Tons of whammy pedal there. I really don't think it sounds like Justin though...The tone is way trebly for anything that would come out of a bass. I could be wrong, I suppose.

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Isn't that device linked just a theremin? I know you could get just one solid sustained note from a theremin, and with a little movement within its field you could get pitch bent stuff.

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if you listen the whole time, there are times where you can here string noise.
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Isn't that device linked just a theremin? I know you could get just one solid sustained note from a theremin, and with a little movement within its field you could get pitch bent stuff.

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It would make sense that the bass is making the feedback since a guitar is clearly playing the chords. They rarely arrange things that cannot be played similarly live.
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It would make sense that the bass is making the feedback since a guitar is clearly playing the chords. They rarely arrange things that cannot be played similarly live.
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Too bad it's a bass, a moog at a live show would be fucking awesome.
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Too bad it's a bass, a moog at a live show would be fucking awesome.
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I was actually wondering whether or not it was Adam playing that cool little feedback lick because of the fact that he plays the chord sequence over the top of it. If Adam did both the feedback and the chords then someone else would have to play guitar live as Echo Flanger stated above (Maynard could do it, I saw him play guitar on Schism at the Manchester Apollo in 2001 but that's not the point). It could very well be Justin doing it, as a bassist myself I am well aware that the instrument is much more dynamic than people are made to believe.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was him doing it because of the simple fact that his musicianship on 10,000 Days is outstanding. In the past I've been more impressed by Danny's drumming from a musician's viewpoint but Justin is definately the best of the bunch on this album.
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I was actually wondering whether or not it was Adam playing that cool little feedback lick because of the fact that he plays the chord sequence over the top of it. If Adam did both the feedback and the chords then someone else would have to play guitar live as Echo Flanger stated above (Maynard could do it, I saw him play guitar on Schism at the Manchester Apollo in 2001 but that's not the point). It could very well be Justin doing it, as a bassist myself I am well aware that the instrument is much more dynamic than people are made to believe.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was him doing it because of the simple fact that his musicianship on 10,000 Days is outstanding. In the past I've been more impressed by Danny's drumming from a musician's viewpoint but Justin is definately the best of the bunch on this album.
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