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04-18-2006, 10:19 AM

ill be very shocked if this album doesnt come with some type of viewing aide
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Re: from inside packaging

ill be very shocked if this album doesnt come with some type of viewing aide
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04-18-2006, 12:03 PM

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Pretty cool, and it has a nice steroscopic effect, you can really see the depthness of it.
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wow... very nice and quite notorious steroscopic effect on that one
You people must be smoking something because these two pics have *no stereoscopic effect at all*. In fact, they're practically identical. If you would overlay them with some graphics program and highlight the difference you would see that they only differ in one spot: the little green bump at the bottom, in the middle.

Someone took this photo, copy pasted it and darkened that little spot to make it not that obvious that they are identical. They are definitely not stereoscopic, thus very probably fake.

I don't wanna brag, but I've wasted a huge amount of valuable time staring like a retard into these magic eye books and I am fucking good at it :-)
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Pretty cool, and it has a nice steroscopic effect, you can really see the depthness of it.
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wow... very nice and quite notorious steroscopic effect on that one
You people must be smoking something because these two pics have *no stereoscopic effect at all*. In fact, they're practically identical. If you would overlay them with some graphics program and highlight the difference you would see that they only differ in one spot: the little green bump at the bottom, in the middle.

Someone took this photo, copy pasted it and darkened that little spot to make it not that obvious that they are identical. They are definitely not stereoscopic, thus very probably fake.

I don't wanna brag, but I've wasted a huge amount of valuable time staring like a retard into these magic eye books and I am fucking good at it :-)
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04-18-2006, 12:34 PM

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viewing the stereoscopic images is the same method as viewing the magic eye pictures from the 90's. only instead of crappy computer 3d images inside crappy patterns, these are actual photographs. dave matthews used them, and they sucked.
not that the technology is new either.
I think they will be much nicer on paper instead of on computer screens like we've all been looking at them.
i wonder what's on the opposite page?
Actually there are two ways you can watch stereoscopic pictures: by looking cross-eyed or by looking in parallel. The magic-eye books with the computer generated images usually use the parallel method. Large image pairs most often use the cross-eyed method. The leaked pictures are arranged such that you would have to use the parallel method.

I have to admit, when you shrink the two pictures of Maynard down to booklet size, it is possible to watch them with parallel view, without an aid. I previously thought they were too big to do that, judging from the computer screen. I still think it's pretty hard to get a focused vision though, since the pics are still pretty far apart.

I also wonder, has the fact that the pictures are rotated 90° in the booklet anything to do with how they are supposed to be viewed?

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viewing the stereoscopic images is the same method as viewing the magic eye pictures from the 90's. only instead of crappy computer 3d images inside crappy patterns, these are actual photographs. dave matthews used them, and they sucked.
not that the technology is new either.
I think they will be much nicer on paper instead of on computer screens like we've all been looking at them.
i wonder what's on the opposite page?
Actually there are two ways you can watch stereoscopic pictures: by looking cross-eyed or by looking in parallel. The magic-eye books with the computer generated images usually use the parallel method. Large image pairs most often use the cross-eyed method. The leaked pictures are arranged such that you would have to use the parallel method.

I have to admit, when you shrink the two pictures of Maynard down to booklet size, it is possible to watch them with parallel view, without an aid. I previously thought they were too big to do that, judging from the computer screen. I still think it's pretty hard to get a focused vision though, since the pics are still pretty far apart.

I also wonder, has the fact that the pictures are rotated 90° in the booklet anything to do with how they are supposed to be viewed?

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04-18-2006, 12:48 PM

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Then look at the center with your eyes crossed ( I put a finger betwen my eyes to help it, and when I have the third image I take the finger away ), then relax your eyes and focus on the center image.
Edit: And always try to focus on the backgournd.
i really don't consider this "crossing your eyes." i've been doing magic eyes forever and they're really simple. what you're actually doing is focusing your eyes past the image you're looking at. a good way to get the idea is to hold your finger about 6 inches from your face and try to make it turn into "2 fingers" by looking past it at something else in the room. you should be able to control this easily and be able to "spread" your finger apart to varying distances.

for this picture, zoom out on it to make it easier to "connect" the two images. you do the same thing you did with your finger; you split the images in two by focusing past them. two of the "splits" will connect in the middle, and the picture will pop out at you in 3d, with two unfocused 2d splits on each side. for new people i've noticed this is the hardest step, but once the image "pops" it's almost like your eyes readjust and you can look around at the picture without losing focus.

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Then look at the center with your eyes crossed ( I put a finger betwen my eyes to help it, and when I have the third image I take the finger away ), then relax your eyes and focus on the center image.
Edit: And always try to focus on the backgournd.
i really don't consider this "crossing your eyes." i've been doing magic eyes forever and they're really simple. what you're actually doing is focusing your eyes past the image you're looking at. a good way to get the idea is to hold your finger about 6 inches from your face and try to make it turn into "2 fingers" by looking past it at something else in the room. you should be able to control this easily and be able to "spread" your finger apart to varying distances.

for this picture, zoom out on it to make it easier to "connect" the two images. you do the same thing you did with your finger; you split the images in two by focusing past them. two of the "splits" will connect in the middle, and the picture will pop out at you in 3d, with two unfocused 2d splits on each side. for new people i've noticed this is the hardest step, but once the image "pops" it's almost like your eyes readjust and you can look around at the picture without losing focus.

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04-18-2006, 12:51 PM

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They are definitely not stereoscopic, thus very probably fake.

I don't wanna brag, but I've wasted a huge amount of valuable time staring like a retard into these magic eye books and I am fucking good at it :-)
me too. they are indeed stereoscopic.
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They are definitely not stereoscopic, thus very probably fake.

I don't wanna brag, but I've wasted a huge amount of valuable time staring like a retard into these magic eye books and I am fucking good at it :-)
me too. they are indeed stereoscopic.
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04-18-2006, 01:23 PM

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me too. they are indeed stereoscopic.
Ok, so I went through the trouble and overlayed them in Photoshop. While they are not pixel by pixel identical one can clearly see that the second picture has only a very slight and cheap horizontal / vertical skew to it, but no perspective skew. So someone quickly skewed the picture after copying it, but not merely enough to create something like 3d effect.

Even though one can overlay the pictures by crossing the eyes, the combined image is still practically flat. The tunnel-y nature of the picture must fool you guys.
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me too. they are indeed stereoscopic.
Ok, so I went through the trouble and overlayed them in Photoshop. While they are not pixel by pixel identical one can clearly see that the second picture has only a very slight and cheap horizontal / vertical skew to it, but no perspective skew. So someone quickly skewed the picture after copying it, but not merely enough to create something like 3d effect.

Even though one can overlay the pictures by crossing the eyes, the combined image is still practically flat. The tunnel-y nature of the picture must fool you guys.
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04-18-2006, 01:54 PM

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Even though one can overlay the pictures by crossing the eyes, the combined image is still practically flat. The tunnel-y nature of the picture must fool you guys.
have you ever used an actual stereoscope? the concept goes back a lot further than magic eye pictures and began with (nearly) identical pictures placed side by side.

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Even though one can overlay the pictures by crossing the eyes, the combined image is still practically flat. The tunnel-y nature of the picture must fool you guys.
have you ever used an actual stereoscope? the concept goes back a lot further than magic eye pictures and began with (nearly) identical pictures placed side by side.

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04-18-2006, 02:03 PM

If you have photoshop, you can make it a regular 3D image by tinting one layer red and the other layer blue. Add 3d glasses.

I really wish i had photoshop
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If you have photoshop, you can make it a regular 3D image by tinting one layer red and the other layer blue. Add 3d glasses.

I really wish i had photoshop
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04-18-2006, 02:04 PM

First off I gotta say.... if the album artwork leaked, then the actual music would've too, no doubt. So i've just changed my opinion of all this artwork to photo shopped and faked.
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First off I gotta say.... if the album artwork leaked, then the actual music would've too, no doubt. So i've just changed my opinion of all this artwork to photo shopped and faked.
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04-18-2006, 02:11 PM

You can test if it's stereoscopic by overlaying them in an animation program...
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You can test if it's stereoscopic by overlaying them in an animation program...
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04-18-2006, 02:23 PM

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have you ever used an actual stereoscope? the concept goes back a lot further than magic eye pictures and began with (nearly) identical pictures placed side by side.
Yes. But the smaller the difference, the smaller the perspective effect and a stereoscope cannot change that. If there's no real perspective difference in the source pictures, a stereoscope cannot create anything out of it either.
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have you ever used an actual stereoscope? the concept goes back a lot further than magic eye pictures and began with (nearly) identical pictures placed side by side.
Yes. But the smaller the difference, the smaller the perspective effect and a stereoscope cannot change that. If there's no real perspective difference in the source pictures, a stereoscope cannot create anything out of it either.
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