You're right. I'm kissing his ass. Thank you for pointing out to everyone my oh-so-obvious tactics here.

....that ,or my opinion just aligns with his.

everyone has opinions, just because you don't agree with some doesn't mean they are wrong or that you have less a brain, it depends how well you can justify your opinions, that is all.

don't know who you responded this to, but it's funny. *LAZY* i guess you're talking about the 10000 days..

I don't want to berate people on here whose opinions differ IF they back up what they're saying. However, 90% of the "no way is this the title" camp have absolutely no real reason to say that other than "it's too 'lame' to be a Tool title".

To make such a sweeping statement which contradicts something which has been posted on TB and is still on TA should require some pretty serious factual information--and nobody here refuting the album title seems to have any. People are just mindlessly cursing the title because a lot of them seemingly think if it's not some crazy out there made-up word then they won't be able to derive the same meaning from the album. That's not having a brain on your shoulders--I stand by that.

This post made me happy.

truth

i agree with your opinions.

Look. Let me set this straight, ok? It doesnt have to be some made up word like aldaria, orprshih, or eraetbeuib. Trust me, I get enough of that listening to Autechre song titles. For all I care, it could be called "happy hippie horseshit." Whatever.

If you want logical facts, here's why I think it *might* not be 10,000 days.

1.) Post went bye-bye. -Promises, exclusives, who says where what will be at first, etc., is all a bunch of hearsay. I dont care if you paid money to be temporarily more special. It doesnt matter. It doesnt count here.

2.) The aforementioned bye-bye post comes literally one day after Blair Bear got heat pieced over the same shit we are still doing here.

3.) Uh, there already is a record by someone called 10,000 days. And guess what? Its a "blues" record. And you know what? You know what? MJK said this is going to be a blues record. Wow! The Synchronicity! The world is coming to an end! Is this interview even published officially? Do any of you have an actual copy of said interview or did you just read the transcript here? If the latter, again, more reason to stroke your chin.

4.) Fans are willing to embrace the differences between bands like Tool and Disturbed. To the general public, they might not be so inclined though. If either band sells a million records, do you think its because they have literally a million die-hard fans who know exactly what the difference is between a hardrock song by Disturbed and what they would label a nu-metal song by Tool? No. Regardless, the similarities HAVE to be taken in consideration. Frankly, its a poor marketing strategy to the general less-than-fanboy-informed public. I can just picture 14 yr old Timmy asking Nana for the new Tool cd for Xmas. And when Nana goes to the local BestBuy and asks Darnell for the album 10,000 something, guess who is going to be pissed when he unwraps that one?

5.) Plus, its been known Blair has an affinity for subtle insults towards other bands in the past. Could this just be another joke? A disturbing one at that?

heh, well said

Danny Carey said that jokingly.

Which is even more reason to believe its not real. That, and the fact that he posted it "because it was going to be leaked out anyway" which ment he wanted to get the information out to everyone before they heard it somewhere else first.

The irony is, thats exactaly whats happening now. EVERYONE (except the dumbshits that bought TA) is hearing it from somewhere else. Good job alerting the public.

I personally don't think that this is the new title myself. It seems that the TA (myself included although I didn't know about it) members are entitled to hearing the album title first. Blair, not thinking, posted the "new title" on toolband before he posted it on toolarmy. Then he went "Oh shit!" and removed it from the toolband site so as to make it seem like toolarmy was getting an exclusive news bulletin. This would be more believable because toolarmy members were promised to know the info on the new cd first. Faux pas anyone?

I don't care what it's called either...

I've already explained this, Kabir said that Maynard said the title would be announced on ToolArmy first of all. But Blair made the mistake of announcing it on Toolband and ToolArmy. After people pissed and moaned that ToolArmy didn't get this exclusive, he decided to limit it to ToolArmy to stop the members from moaning. It's still up there and if it's not removed this week, or it's changed, then it's definitely fake but so far it isn't and it hasn't been. So that point is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if people paid more money, ToolArmy is an OFFICIAL site.

I doubt Blair or the band could give a shit about what we're saying here or what they think of the title regardless of whatever it's called. They agreed to whatever title and they chose what's best suited to the album, even if it is different and that's something we all have to respect even though we might hate the title.

Yes, I have the actual magazine with the interview and there have been scans if I remember correctly. I'm viewing it right as I type this. And for your information, that record was released in 1999, I doubt Tool even know that album and it's not a "Blues" album, but a "Country" album. So that's another irrelevant point. Also, they provided hints that this would be Tool's new album even before the interview and this post. Look at the January newsletter.

That is a good point I'll give you that, but this is Tool we're talking about. I doubt they care about the fact it's similar to Ten Thousand Fists. It might be a pun against them, but there's always the chance it might not be and judging from the theories around here, 10,000 Days has much more to it than a ridiculous name like "Ten Thousand Fists". Which just about sums up Disturbed.

Could be, but at this point no one knows. We're all assuming, but at this point, it's ON that website, and people have a right to believe it's real and official whilst you others are denying the fact that it could be fake on just basis alone.

Either way, by the end of this month we will know the final title. I don't mean to sound arrogant but at this point the speculation starts to annoy you considering that it's an official source. Unlike a supposed leak, where people actually believed those leaks rather than something coming from Blair.

what are you even talking about? Do i need to use big words if i wanna impress you? Sorry buddy I'll talk however the hell i want to talk.

If you want to talk about vocabulary - try me.

IMO your not worth it because all you do is spread LIES and make people miserable.

Uh, ok holmes. Go reread the original post in this thread. I've yet to go spread lies and you my friend, have an unclean mouth.

toodles,

gl0tch

Don't patronize me - I'm not your fucking friend.


Give up the whole dirty mouth thing - me swearing doesn't mean that I'm an idiot - actually it means that I'm pissed at n00bs like you who make outlandish cliams and then cant back them up sufficiently.

LOOK AT THE TITLE OF YOUR THREAD YOU MORON. That is a lie.

Everything you've said thus far is speculation - You dont know anymore than anyone else here.


In the initial post you express dissapointment in Tool fans because some of them believe '10,000 days' actually is the title.

Sorry to break it to you but (as Nebel has pointed out) all of the evidence you've presented thus far is tenuous as best.

You dont seem to understand how utterly pretentious you sound when you say that you thought Tool fans were smarter than this. That makes you appear better than everyone here. And I think thats offensive - I'm sure other people do too.

Prove to me (and the rest of the people here who see through your facade of fake ass maturity and sophistication) the title of the album is NOT '10,000 days' - if you can then my hat is off to you. If you cant - change the god damn thread title - and appologize to every Tool fan for calling them stupid.

You're mad. And I win at Teh Internetz. Calling people n00bs is soooo.... 1998.
I'm not better than the tool fans here. Just you.

Sugar and Dumpling,

gl0tch

who cares its TOOl. they can name the cd whatver they want

I agree, I don't believe this will be the title of the new record

yea the fact that he took it off toolband but kept it on ta and made it an exclusive is troubling...makes me more inclined to see it as legit.but then again i dont really care. i think this is the first time ive ever given an album title a second thought.

For tonight. Will comment when the physical disk is in my hand.

You automatically forfeit all credibility when you quote a Tool song in a [seemingly] thoughtful post.

-5.

P.S - You used the term "hearsay" (heresy) to describe the situation with the title announcement appearing on Toolband before Toolarmy and attempted to use this point as leverage for your argument. Considering your supporting arguments are all based on nothing but speculation (and attempted deduction) I wouldn't be quick to say that your opinion is more valid than the other Tool fans that you successfully insulted.

Uh, I'm pretty sure he meant hearsay.

yea youre an idiot. hearsay is a word.

you're kind of an asshole, you know that?

I dunno, at this point I'm thinking more that it is 10,000 Days. But, I'm not going to dismiss the possibility that it could stand for something else. I know Myriad has been mentioned before, and I kinda hope it's that. Just sounds/looks cooler to me.

You're in love with me.

I just noticed that the post on toolband regarding 10,000 days is the only one NOT underscored by a purple BMB.'

that's peculiar....

I don't believe I stated that "hearsay" is not a word. I put 'heresy' in brackets beside it for a reason. Come on now.

-10.

You're an idiot. You just didnt open your 3rd eye and let yourself sprial out while reading his post.

Hah! Well done.

said it once, i'll say it again....

march 3- 10,000 days 'leaked' as title

march 7 through 14- artwork will be 'leaked'

march 15 through 25- tracklisting will be 'leaked'

april 1- we will all get a good laugh

april 2- real title, artwork, tracklisting will be leaked

sounds right.

How's this for some facts:

10,000 Days

Tool has recently finished recording and mastering their fourth full-length studio album titled 10,000 Days. The new album title announcement was posted on the official Tool website on March 3, 2006; however, the same day, this announcment was moved to the fanclub exclusive area at Toolarmy.com. Why it was posted non-exclusively and then moved remains a mystery, but since then, the title has been reposted on the main website. Considering the events preceding the release of Lateralus, during which the band promoted the false title Systema Encéphale, 10,000 Days is not necessarily a final title, but its repost on the main website lends some additional credibility. There have been many rumors about the newest release, including potential stylistic changes, possible titles and a slew of release dates. Since the members of Tool avoid press and rarely grant interviews, there was little evidence to support any of these claims.

Nevertheless, well accepted facts are that the new record was completed on January 29, 2006, was mastered on January 31 and will be released "sometime in May, and hopefully earlier in that month as opposed to later." Tourmates Fantômas and Meshuggah have been cited as recent influences.



So wait a second, Tool promoted a fake album name with Lateralus! Why would they do that? Why to stop leaks of course! And why exactly do you idiots believe they wouldn't do the same thing this time around? Do you really believe they would release the album name this early after apparently being so concerned with leaks? Don't think so, and the fact that you guys actually believe Tool would make an album named 10,000 days proves your idiocy further. The real album name will be released with the single.

add this to the collection:

Only one month later, they revealed that it was actually titled Lateralus and that Systema had been a ruse,[10] much to the dismay of music magazines and commercial websites who had committed headlong to the fake title.

exactly.

and why do you think blair posted it, took it off, reposted it, took it off and reposted it again? to make people believe it was a 'mistake' that he posted and that he shouldn't have given that info out. so technically, they are going about it a little more systematically than they did with lateralus.

they did the same thing 4 times with the signed lateralus vinyls.

no, they fucked with us 4 times in terms of when they'd be up and how we'd acquire them. same deal.

Um, why? They're doing it to do anything they can to stop any form of leaks. Personally I see that as a good thing, I think they deserve as much money as possible for being one if not the best band in the world right now.