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This article is excerpted from the May 20, 2006, issue of Billboard magazine. Subscribers can read the issue's content online via billboard.biz.

May 17, 2006
Wes Orshoski
The four men of Tool -- anonymous band members behind vaguely androgynous frontman Maynard James Keenan -- had a credo when they formed the band 16 years ago: "substance over style, art over image."

"We wanted people to get into the music, instead of going, 'Well, how long is their hair?' and 'Are they cute?'" guitarist Adam Jones says. "We just stood in the shadows and worked really hard."

Without ever really leaving those shadows, Tool has quietly become one of the world's most commercially and uniquely successful bands. And it has done so while repeatedly bucking industry convention. Tool often waits up to five years between albums. Its last three singles -— including current hit "Vicarious" -— have averaged more than seven minutes, forcing some radio programmers to create their own edits.

And while the music business clamors to embrace digital formats, Tool has yet to reach an agreement with its label, Volcano/Zomba, for such distribution.

Yet Tool is more popular than ever. The band's new album, "10,000 Days," marked Tool's second appearance at the apex of The Billboard 200, with 564,000 albums sold its first week, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This follows the sale of more than 8 million copies of its first three studio albums in the United States. In the United Kingdom, "10,000 Days" scored the group its highest bow with a No. 4 debut on the albums chart. The title debuted in the top 10 throughout Europe.

Tool fans span a cross-section from metalheads to emo kids, punks to goths, with its arty, prog-drenched heavy rock. And it seems the more the band follows its own vision, the more it underscores its cult-band cool -- it's just a cult of hundreds of thousands at this point.

Zomba Label Group president/CEO Barry Weiss calls the band a "throwback to the old days when Led Zeppelin came out with an album -- everybody bought the album. It's that simple." Tool's success, he says, is fueled by a double effect of true artist mystique and a less-is-more mentality.

"They don't oversaturate their audience," says Mike Stern, VP of programming for Emmis/Chicago. "There's not a record every 14 months and a tour every summer."

The band has long tended to its mystique. Ballooning from the popularity of its early, pioneering videos -- especially the stop-motion animation of "Prison Sex," rising eerily above the masses of grunge and urban pop on MTV in 1993 -- Tool has carefully cultivated a dark image, through album and T-shirt artwork and onstage visuals.

"We've basically used art as a very strong propaganda tool to coincide with the music," Jones says. In general, he says, the band "is just a really cool experimental project that we're all in."

The experimental approach certainly included the packaging for "10,000 Days." The album is configured like a folding book, with one flap carrying stereoscopic lenses, and the other a booklet containing sets of paintings and photographs on each page. When spied through the lenses, each set emerges as one 3-D image.

Retailers often frown on unusual packaging because of increased concerns regarding shipping and display. But call it one more example of Tool flying—high—in the face of industry convention.

Fans love it, says Bryan Everitt, director of music operations for the 153-store Hastings Entertainment chain. "It's great to see music lovers reading the liner notes and really enjoying holding the product in their hands again," he says, noting that the album set the Amarillo, Texas-based chain's record for midnight sales with 5,000 copies sold on the album's release date, May 2.

A proud Jones, who came up with the concept, says, "[Avant guitarist] Robert Fripp was at our show the other day, and he said, 'This is the best album art since the '70s' ... We're always trying to think of something to do that's never been done before. We want people to get more than their money's worth."
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This article is excerpted from the May 20, 2006, issue of Billboard magazine. Subscribers can read the issue's content online via billboard.biz.

May 17, 2006
Wes Orshoski
The four men of Tool -- anonymous band members behind vaguely androgynous frontman Maynard James Keenan -- had a credo when they formed the band 16 years ago: "substance over style, art over image."

"We wanted people to get into the music, instead of going, 'Well, how long is their hair?' and 'Are they cute?'" guitarist Adam Jones says. "We just stood in the shadows and worked really hard."

Without ever really leaving those shadows, Tool has quietly become one of the world's most commercially and uniquely successful bands. And it has done so while repeatedly bucking industry convention. Tool often waits up to five years between albums. Its last three singles -— including current hit "Vicarious" -— have averaged more than seven minutes, forcing some radio programmers to create their own edits.

And while the music business clamors to embrace digital formats, Tool has yet to reach an agreement with its label, Volcano/Zomba, for such distribution.

Yet Tool is more popular than ever. The band's new album, "10,000 Days," marked Tool's second appearance at the apex of The Billboard 200, with 564,000 albums sold its first week, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This follows the sale of more than 8 million copies of its first three studio albums in the United States. In the United Kingdom, "10,000 Days" scored the group its highest bow with a No. 4 debut on the albums chart. The title debuted in the top 10 throughout Europe.

Tool fans span a cross-section from metalheads to emo kids, punks to goths, with its arty, prog-drenched heavy rock. And it seems the more the band follows its own vision, the more it underscores its cult-band cool -- it's just a cult of hundreds of thousands at this point.

Zomba Label Group president/CEO Barry Weiss calls the band a "throwback to the old days when Led Zeppelin came out with an album -- everybody bought the album. It's that simple." Tool's success, he says, is fueled by a double effect of true artist mystique and a less-is-more mentality.

"They don't oversaturate their audience," says Mike Stern, VP of programming for Emmis/Chicago. "There's not a record every 14 months and a tour every summer."

The band has long tended to its mystique. Ballooning from the popularity of its early, pioneering videos -- especially the stop-motion animation of "Prison Sex," rising eerily above the masses of grunge and urban pop on MTV in 1993 -- Tool has carefully cultivated a dark image, through album and T-shirt artwork and onstage visuals.

"We've basically used art as a very strong propaganda tool to coincide with the music," Jones says. In general, he says, the band "is just a really cool experimental project that we're all in."

The experimental approach certainly included the packaging for "10,000 Days." The album is configured like a folding book, with one flap carrying stereoscopic lenses, and the other a booklet containing sets of paintings and photographs on each page. When spied through the lenses, each set emerges as one 3-D image.

Retailers often frown on unusual packaging because of increased concerns regarding shipping and display. But call it one more example of Tool flying—high—in the face of industry convention.

Fans love it, says Bryan Everitt, director of music operations for the 153-store Hastings Entertainment chain. "It's great to see music lovers reading the liner notes and really enjoying holding the product in their hands again," he says, noting that the album set the Amarillo, Texas-based chain's record for midnight sales with 5,000 copies sold on the album's release date, May 2.

A proud Jones, who came up with the concept, says, "[Avant guitarist] Robert Fripp was at our show the other day, and he said, 'This is the best album art since the '70s' ... We're always trying to think of something to do that's never been done before. We want people to get more than their money's worth."
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Awesome article, thanks for sharing.
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It's nice to hear from Adam. Enjoyed reading the article.

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"Tool fans span a cross-section from metalheads to emo kids, punks to goths, with its arty, prog-drenched heavy rock. "

I wish they would've cut that part out.

Good article, otherwise. Thanks for posting.
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"Tool fans span a cross-section from metalheads to emo kids, punks to goths, with its arty, prog-drenched heavy rock. "

I wish they would've cut that part out.

Good article, otherwise. Thanks for posting.
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It's nice to hear from Adam. .
yeah, we haven't been hearing enough from him in recently in all the interviews, yeah man....
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yep, good article.
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This article is excerpted from the May 20, 2006, issue of Billboard magazine.
If this issue is still on newsstands I'll pick it up and scan the rest.
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This article is excerpted from the May 20, 2006, issue of Billboard magazine.
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564,000 isnt that many records
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564,000 isnt that many records
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in one week its pretty damn good, i'd like to see you sell more
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in one week its pretty damn good, i'd like to see you sell more
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over half a milion i say is pretty impressive
esp for now a days post napster/limewire
era...where people dont buy albums any more.
it is the fastest selling tool record so far and i say
that is an amazing feat in itself
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over half a milion i say is pretty impressive
esp for now a days post napster/limewire
era...where people dont buy albums any more.
it is the fastest selling tool record so far and i say
that is an amazing feat in itself
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564,000 isnt that many records
It sold more than Lateralus did in its first week.
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It sold more than Lateralus did in its first week.
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Great article thanks for that, and ya 564,000 is a shit ton for 1 week.
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Great article thanks for that, and ya 564,000 is a shit ton for 1 week.
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Great read Hbynoe. Thanks
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and over 150.000 in the second week of sales
so over 700,000 now...in a month..more than a million
i figure it is even over a million right now with international sales.
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and over 150.000 in the second week of sales
so over 700,000 now...in a month..more than a million
i figure it is even over a million right now with international sales.
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there is no doubt it is over a million world wide but you have to look at each country seperate if you want to rate platinums and that such
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there is no doubt it is over a million world wide but you have to look at each country seperate if you want to rate platinums and that such
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Why do articles keep mentioning that Tool members are 'anonymous' or 'mysterious'. Is it in Tool's press kit or something?
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Why do articles keep mentioning that Tool members are 'anonymous' or 'mysterious'. Is it in Tool's press kit or something?
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Also; wrong subforum. Lock and bin.
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Why do articles keep mentioning that Tool members are 'anonymous' or 'mysterious'. Is it in Tool's press kit or something?
they aren't in the videos, on the album covers etc

and it is part of thier mystique, like Zep before them
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Why do articles keep mentioning that Tool members are 'anonymous' or 'mysterious'. Is it in Tool's press kit or something?
they aren't in the videos, on the album covers etc

and it is part of thier mystique, like Zep before them
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Tool aren't mysterious and neither were Zep.
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Tool aren't mysterious and neither were Zep.
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They are mysterious in that they are not attetion whores like Paris Hilton. Shows you how desensitized popular media is.
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They are mysterious in that they are not attetion whores like Paris Hilton. Shows you how desensitized popular media is.
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They're mysterious to the general public, but it's not like no other bands don't succumb to pop culture.

Plus, they're not really mysterious, it's just that people think they're mysterious because they're misinformed and stupid.
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They're mysterious to the general public, but it's not like no other bands don't succumb to pop culture.

Plus, they're not really mysterious, it's just that people think they're mysterious because they're misinformed and stupid.
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not to the fans, to the general public
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This article is excerpted from the May 20, 2006, issue of Billboard magazine. Subscribers can read the issue's content online via billboard.biz.

May 17, 2006
Wes Orshoski
The four men of Tool -- anonymous band members behind vaguely androgynous frontman Maynard James Keenan -- had a credo when they formed the band 16 years ago: "substance over style, art over image."

"We wanted people to get into the music, instead of going, 'Well, how long is their hair?' and 'Are they cute?'" guitarist Adam Jones says. "We just stood in the shadows and worked really hard."

Without ever really leaving those shadows, Tool has quietly become one of the world's most commercially and uniquely successful bands. And it has done so while repeatedly bucking industry convention. Tool often waits up to five years between albums. Its last three singles -— including current hit "Vicarious" -— have averaged more than seven minutes, forcing some radio programmers to create their own edits.

And while the music business clamors to embrace digital formats, Tool has yet to reach an agreement with its label, Volcano/Zomba, for such distribution.

Yet Tool is more popular than ever. The band's new album, "10,000 Days," marked Tool's second appearance at the apex of The Billboard 200, with 564,000 albums sold its first week, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This follows the sale of more than 8 million copies of its first three studio albums in the United States. In the United Kingdom, "10,000 Days" scored the group its highest bow with a No. 4 debut on the albums chart. The title debuted in the top 10 throughout Europe.

Tool fans span a cross-section from metalheads to emo kids, punks to goths, with its arty, prog-drenched heavy rock. And it seems the more the band follows its own vision, the more it underscores its cult-band cool -- it's just a cult of hundreds of thousands at this point.

Zomba Label Group president/CEO Barry Weiss calls the band a "throwback to the old days when Led Zeppelin came out with an album -- everybody bought the album. It's that simple." Tool's success, he says, is fueled by a double effect of true artist mystique and a less-is-more mentality.

"They don't oversaturate their audience," says Mike Stern, VP of programming for Emmis/Chicago. "There's not a record every 14 months and a tour every summer."

The band has long tended to its mystique. Ballooning from the popularity of its early, pioneering videos -- especially the stop-motion animation of "Prison Sex," rising eerily above the masses of grunge and urban pop on MTV in 1993 -- Tool has carefully cultivated a dark image, through album and T-shirt artwork and onstage visuals.

"We've basically used art as a very strong propaganda tool to coincide with the music," Jones says. In general, he says, the band "is just a really cool experimental project that we're all in."

The experimental approach certainly included the packaging for "10,000 Days." The album is configured like a folding book, with one flap carrying stereoscopic lenses, and the other a booklet containing sets of paintings and photographs on each page. When spied through the lenses, each set emerges as one 3-D image.

Retailers often frown on unusual packaging because of increased concerns regarding shipping and display. But call it one more example of Tool flying—high—in the face of industry convention.

Fans love it, says Bryan Everitt, director of music operations for the 153-store Hastings Entertainment chain. "It's great to see music lovers reading the liner notes and really enjoying holding the product in their hands again," he says, noting that the album set the Amarillo, Texas-based chain's record for midnight sales with 5,000 copies sold on the album's release date, May 2.

A proud Jones, who came up with the concept, says, "[Avant guitarist] Robert Fripp was at our show the other day, and he said, 'This is the best album art since the '70s' ... We're always trying to think of something to do that's never been done before. We want people to get more than their money's worth."

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This article is excerpted from the May 20, 2006, issue of Billboard magazine. Subscribers can read the issue's content online via billboard.biz.

May 17, 2006
Wes Orshoski
The four men of Tool -- anonymous band members behind vaguely androgynous frontman Maynard James Keenan -- had a credo when they formed the band 16 years ago: "substance over style, art over image."

"We wanted people to get into the music, instead of going, 'Well, how long is their hair?' and 'Are they cute?'" guitarist Adam Jones says. "We just stood in the shadows and worked really hard."

Without ever really leaving those shadows, Tool has quietly become one of the world's most commercially and uniquely successful bands. And it has done so while repeatedly bucking industry convention. Tool often waits up to five years between albums. Its last three singles -— including current hit "Vicarious" -— have averaged more than seven minutes, forcing some radio programmers to create their own edits.

And while the music business clamors to embrace digital formats, Tool has yet to reach an agreement with its label, Volcano/Zomba, for such distribution.

Yet Tool is more popular than ever. The band's new album, "10,000 Days," marked Tool's second appearance at the apex of The Billboard 200, with 564,000 albums sold its first week, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This follows the sale of more than 8 million copies of its first three studio albums in the United States. In the United Kingdom, "10,000 Days" scored the group its highest bow with a No. 4 debut on the albums chart. The title debuted in the top 10 throughout Europe.

Tool fans span a cross-section from metalheads to emo kids, punks to goths, with its arty, prog-drenched heavy rock. And it seems the more the band follows its own vision, the more it underscores its cult-band cool -- it's just a cult of hundreds of thousands at this point.

Zomba Label Group president/CEO Barry Weiss calls the band a "throwback to the old days when Led Zeppelin came out with an album -- everybody bought the album. It's that simple." Tool's success, he says, is fueled by a double effect of true artist mystique and a less-is-more mentality.

"They don't oversaturate their audience," says Mike Stern, VP of programming for Emmis/Chicago. "There's not a record every 14 months and a tour every summer."

The band has long tended to its mystique. Ballooning from the popularity of its early, pioneering videos -- especially the stop-motion animation of "Prison Sex," rising eerily above the masses of grunge and urban pop on MTV in 1993 -- Tool has carefully cultivated a dark image, through album and T-shirt artwork and onstage visuals.

"We've basically used art as a very strong propaganda tool to coincide with the music," Jones says. In general, he says, the band "is just a really cool experimental project that we're all in."

The experimental approach certainly included the packaging for "10,000 Days." The album is configured like a folding book, with one flap carrying stereoscopic lenses, and the other a booklet containing sets of paintings and photographs on each page. When spied through the lenses, each set emerges as one 3-D image.

Retailers often frown on unusual packaging because of increased concerns regarding shipping and display. But call it one more example of Tool flying—high—in the face of industry convention.

Fans love it, says Bryan Everitt, director of music operations for the 153-store Hastings Entertainment chain. "It's great to see music lovers reading the liner notes and really enjoying holding the product in their hands again," he says, noting that the album set the Amarillo, Texas-based chain's record for midnight sales with 5,000 copies sold on the album's release date, May 2.

A proud Jones, who came up with the concept, says, "[Avant guitarist] Robert Fripp was at our show the other day, and he said, 'This is the best album art since the '70s' ... We're always trying to think of something to do that's never been done before. We want people to get more than their money's worth."

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WTF?! is a emo kid.
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WTF?! is a emo kid.
Think of the "Liek, ZOMG! I'm depressed! I want to die! And I want to draw an unnecessary amount of attention to myself because of it! Oh, but I am NOT goth! Does this look like face paint? I'm naturally pale white, like an Irishman!" kind of goth, but with glasses.

Well, maybe not glasses. But a lot of the "emo" dumb asses I've seen run around wear the big rimmed "Harry Potter" glasses, because, you know, nobody else but Harry Potter wears them.
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WTF?! is a emo kid.
Think of the "Liek, ZOMG! I'm depressed! I want to die! And I want to draw an unnecessary amount of attention to myself because of it! Oh, but I am NOT goth! Does this look like face paint? I'm naturally pale white, like an Irishman!" kind of goth, but with glasses.

Well, maybe not glasses. But a lot of the "emo" dumb asses I've seen run around wear the big rimmed "Harry Potter" glasses, because, you know, nobody else but Harry Potter wears them.
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564,000 isnt that many records

the chillies new album sold <450,000, and they're much more well known around the world than Tool.
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I've never thought of Maynard as particularly androgynous.
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Thanks, great article. Although the part about Tool fans spanning multiple categories was pretty ignorant. Sure loads of teens will buy 'cos it's cool hip music, but I think we here discussing the lyrics and music aren't that easy to categorize.
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Thanks, great article. Although the part about Tool fans spanning multiple categories was pretty ignorant. Sure loads of teens will buy 'cos it's cool hip music, but I think we here discussing the lyrics and music aren't that easy to categorize.
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yeah, we haven't been hearing enough from him in recently in all the interviews, yeah man....
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yeah, we haven't been hearing enough from him in recently in all the interviews, yeah man....
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I've never thought of Maynard as particularly androgynous.
have you seen Tool live during the Aenima tour when Maynard had tits?
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I've never thought of Maynard as particularly androgynous.
have you seen Tool live during the Aenima tour when Maynard had tits?
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Thank you hbynoe :) I'll be on the lookout for the full article too.
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Yeah, you see them a lot in college now. I was overwhelmed in the past two years, cuz I've been in school for fucking six years. I started seeing purportedly heterosexual men wear tight pants and have these really lameass haircuts. They remind me of Buster Brown or something.

They try not to be goth but there's still a lot of this idiotic obsession with a certain aspect of death.
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WTF?! is a emo kid.
Yeah, you see them a lot in college now. I was overwhelmed in the past two years, cuz I've been in school for fucking six years. I started seeing purportedly heterosexual men wear tight pants and have these really lameass haircuts. They remind me of Buster Brown or something.

They try not to be goth but there's still a lot of this idiotic obsession with a certain aspect of death.
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Emo kids don't like Tool. Right now they're all going crazy over the new Taking Back Sunday or Thursday albums.
It was a decent article. Good to hear the industry people weigh in. Tool's success is a victory for NOT following the herd. Shame so few other bands are listening to and looking at what they're doing in terms of following your own rules.
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Emo kids don't like Tool. Right now they're all going crazy over the new Taking Back Sunday or Thursday albums.
It was a decent article. Good to hear the industry people weigh in. Tool's success is a victory for NOT following the herd. Shame so few other bands are listening to and looking at what they're doing in terms of following your own rules.
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Sure loads of teens will buy 'cos it's cool hip music, but I think we here discussing the lyrics and music aren't that easy to categorize.
So true. I think we'd all laugh till we crapped ourselves if we saw the range of demographics involved in this and other Tool forums.

There will literally be all sorts. Even the Tool fans I know through my circle of friends are pretty random. Though I notice at a party or something every single person there will claim to be a devoted Tool fan, while in actuality only about 3 (including me of course;) could even name all the albums.
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Sure loads of teens will buy 'cos it's cool hip music, but I think we here discussing the lyrics and music aren't that easy to categorize.
So true. I think we'd all laugh till we crapped ourselves if we saw the range of demographics involved in this and other Tool forums.

There will literally be all sorts. Even the Tool fans I know through my circle of friends are pretty random. Though I notice at a party or something every single person there will claim to be a devoted Tool fan, while in actuality only about 3 (including me of course;) could even name all the albums.
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